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| jelkner | !agenda | 13:21 |
| LittleWebster | This is the agenda for the next meeting: | 13:21 |
| LittleWebster | Possible CPA Co-op contract? (added by johan_f) | 13:21 |
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| jelkner | !remove Testing code5 | 13:21 |
| LittleWebster | Error: "Testing code5" is not on the agenda or was added by someone else! | 13:21 |
| jelkner | !agenda | 13:21 |
| LittleWebster | This is the agenda for the next meeting: | 13:21 |
| LittleWebster | Possible CPA Co-op contract? (added by johan_f) | 13:21 |
| LittleWebster | Testing code1 (added by mulbah) | 13:21 |
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| jelkner | !remove Testing code5 | 13:22 |
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| jelkner | !agenda | 13:56 |
| LittleWebster | This is the agenda for the next meeting: | 13:56 |
| LittleWebster | Possible CPA Co-op contract? (added by johan_f) | 13:56 |
| jelkner | !add Move NOVA Web email to May First? | 13:58 |
| LittleWebster | Success: "Move NOVA Web email to May First?" has been added to the agenda. | 13:58 |
| jelkner | !add Try OpenProject for project management? | 13:58 |
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| jelkner | !agenda | 13:58 |
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| LittleWebster | Possible CPA Co-op contract? (added by johan_f) | 13:58 |
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| Johan_F | ! agenda | 20:21 |
| Johan_F | !agenda | 20:21 |
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| LittleWebster | Move NOVA Web email to May First? (added by jelkner) | 20:21 |
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| johan_f | !remove Possible CPA Co-op contract? | 20:21 |
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| johan_f | !agenda | 20:24 |
| LittleWebster | This is the agenda for the next meeting: | 20:24 |
| LittleWebster | Move NOVA Web email to May First? (added by jelkner) | 20:24 |
| LittleWebster | Try OpenProject for project management? (added by jelkner) | 20:24 |
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| johan_f | !add Test Decidim Server | 20:26 |
| LittleWebster | Success: "Test Decidim Server" has been added to the agenda. | 20:26 |
| ledmer | hi | 20:31 |
| ledmer | Im still on the bus Mulbah | 20:32 |
| ledmer | on the way home | 20:32 |
| ledmer | so following up my previous email | 20:32 |
| ledmer | jeff now wants to add another feature | 20:33 |
| mulbah | So I should wait for you | 20:33 |
| ledmer | no its fine | 20:33 |
| mulbah | which feature | 20:33 |
| ledmer | im Jeff now wants us to also add a way to delete any agenda items only if you are an server operator | 20:34 |
| mulbah | so what about the creator | 20:35 |
| ledmer | we keep that the same | 20:35 |
| ledmer | so yeah it would be creator and server operator | 20:36 |
| ledmer | Mulbah we have a meeting a little later in novaweb | 20:36 |
| ledmer | I feel like if we make a couple of changes to what you already have | 20:36 |
| ledmer | we might be able to deploy it before the meeting | 20:36 |
| mulbah | should | 20:37 |
| mulbah | I'm free now I can do some updating on the code | 20:37 |
| mulbah | and make that work in a couples of mins | 20:38 |
| mulbah | but the way the bot working is on track of how Jeff want it to be | 20:39 |
| ledmer_ | im back | 20:39 |
| ledmer_ | so | 20:39 |
| mulbah | oh you quit I was sending you messages | 20:39 |
| ledmer_ | dont worry | 20:40 |
| ledmer_ | i checked the logs | 20:40 |
| mulbah | okay | 20:40 |
| ledmer_ | so you got the general idea of what Jeff wanted | 20:40 |
| ledmer_ | I think im going to tune it a little | 20:40 |
| ledmer_ | and then we deploy it | 20:40 |
| ledmer_ | how does that sound? | 20:41 |
| mulbah | cool | 20:41 |
| mulbah | but I don't have the full idea of how jeff want the bot to work | 20:41 |
| ledmer_ | right | 20:42 |
| ledmer_ | im looking | 20:42 |
| ledmer_ | to resend you that email | 20:42 |
| mulbah | but how you see the first progress yea | 20:42 |
| mulbah | or you can Just explain how it will work in detail them I can do the changes | 20:44 |
| ledmer_ | the progress you made is good | 20:45 |
| ledmer_ | I just want to change it a little | 20:45 |
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| ledmer_ | and remove | 20:45 |
| ledmer_ | some stuff | 20:45 |
| ledmer_ | that jeff requested to be removed | 20:45 |
| ledmer_ | I already sent you the email | 20:45 |
| ledmer_ | check it out | 20:45 |
| mulbah | I read it | 20:48 |
| mulbah | splitting the settime command to settingtime and updatingtime | 20:49 |
| mulbah | will be okay? | 20:50 |
| ledmer_ | sure | 20:51 |
| ledmer_ | let's try to not push content at the same time | 20:51 |
| ledmer_ | I will tell you when im done | 20:51 |
| mulbah | so what are you doing and what I'm doing | 20:53 |
| mulbah | like which part you are working on and what I should work on | 20:53 |
| mulbah | so the same thing should be on the settingtime and updatingtime command | 20:58 |
| ledmer | i mean | 20:59 |
| ledmer | that is not the issue exactly | 20:59 |
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| mulbah | I'm asking if the channel opperator and creator should be the one to update time | 21:00 |
| ledmer | ohh | 21:00 |
| ledmer | ok yes | 21:00 |
| ledmer | we don't need to work on those immediately | 21:01 |
| ledmer | as I intend to put the bot live before the meeting | 21:01 |
| mulbah | it will not take long time | 21:01 |
| mulbah | it's just small changes | 21:02 |
| ledmer | ok | 21:02 |
| ledmer | 20 min? | 21:02 |
| jelkner | Now we're talking! | 21:17 |
| jelkner | A test bot | 21:17 |
| jelkner | That's how it should be done. | 21:17 |
| jelkner | !agenda | 21:18 |
| LittleWebster | This is the agenda for the next meeting: | 21:18 |
| LittleWebster | Move NOVA Web email to May First? (added by jelkner) | 21:18 |
| Websterss | No meeting time is set. | 21:18 |
| Websterss | Warning: There are no items on the agenda! | 21:18 |
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| LittleWebster | Test Decidim Server (added by johan_f) | 21:18 |
| ledmer | yeah, Jeff do you now know of any chanels that we could use to test | 21:19 |
| ledmer | the bot | 21:19 |
| ledmer | without having our tests in our records? | 21:19 |
| jelkner | right, you can't test it in the same channel | 21:19 |
| ledmer | yeah | 21:19 |
| jelkner | so, here's what you need to do: | 21:19 |
| jelkner | 1. read oftc's policy on registering channels | 21:19 |
| ledmer | Would it be fine if we use accict channel ?? | 21:20 |
| ledmer | no one uses that one | 21:20 |
| jelkner | is there an accict channel? | 21:20 |
| jelkner | i mean is it registered? | 21:20 |
| ledmer | yeah toby joined me in | 21:20 |
| jelkner | if so, you got it! | 21:20 |
| jelkner | do the invesitgation | 21:20 |
| jelkner | i don't even remember when we registered that | 21:20 |
| jelkner | and who | 21:20 |
| jelkner | so you need to figure out who controls it | 21:21 |
| ledmer | probably a while ago | 21:21 |
| jelkner | and get that control transferred to you | 21:21 |
| ledmer | ok!' | 21:21 |
| ledmer | !agenda | 21:22 |
| LittleWebster | This is the agenda for the next meeting: | 21:22 |
| LittleWebster | Move NOVA Web email to May First? (added by jelkner) | 21:22 |
| Websterss | No meeting time is set. | 21:22 |
| Websterss | Warning: There are no items on the agenda! | 21:22 |
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| LittleWebster | Test Decidim Server (added by johan_f) | 21:22 |
| ledmer | hey jeff | 21:27 |
| ledmer | can you kick out people | 21:27 |
| ledmer | ? | 21:27 |
| ledmer | jelkner | 21:27 |
| jelkner | ledmer, | 21:29 |
| jelkner | who | 21:29 |
| jelkner | i'm channel op | 21:29 |
| ledmer | the bot Websterss | 21:29 |
| anthony_p | im in now, not sure why it wasn't letting me | 21:30 |
| johan_f | hello everyone | 21:30 |
| ledmer | hi | 21:30 |
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| jelkner | it's gone | 21:30 |
| ledmer | thanks! | 21:31 |
| jelkner | let's roll! | 21:31 |
| jelkner | !agenda | 21:31 |
| LittleWebster | This is the agenda for the next meeting: | 21:31 |
| LittleWebster | Move NOVA Web email to May First? (added by jelkner) | 21:31 |
| LittleWebster | Try OpenProject for project management? (added by jelkner) | 21:31 |
| LittleWebster | Test Decidim Server (added by johan_f) | 21:31 |
| jelkner | ok, the question is, should we move our mail hosting to May First? | 21:32 |
| ved | +1 | 21:32 |
| devesh | +1 | 21:32 |
| jelkner | anthony_p? | 21:32 |
| anthony_p | +1 | 21:32 |
| ledmer | +1 | 21:32 |
| jelkner | +1 | 21:32 |
| jelkner | any opposed? | 21:33 |
| anthony_p | are there any arguments against it being a good idea? | 21:33 |
| jelkner | the only one i can think of is less control | 21:33 |
| jelkner | since we don't run the system | 21:33 |
| jelkner | but we are members, and May First is very competent | 21:33 |
| anthony_p | yeah, sounds like a good move to me | 21:34 |
| jelkner | so it seems better to me that we not try to run infrastructure alone that we can rely on the tech coop we are a member of already does this | 21:34 |
| jelkner | so we just need to plan it so that it goes smoothly | 21:34 |
| jelkner | and we don't loose mail in the process | 21:35 |
| jelkner | anthony_p, when can we schedule a work day to plan for this? | 21:35 |
| johan_f | sounds great | 21:35 |
| jelkner | we need to get you, ledmer, and some of the jetro folks together | 21:35 |
| jelkner | so we are all on the same page | 21:35 |
| jelkner | plan our work before we work our plan | 21:36 |
| jelkner | let's use email to talk about that? | 21:36 |
| ledmer | Well Jeff do you have any idea how we could start | 21:36 |
| ledmer | ? | 21:36 |
| ledmer | sure | 21:36 |
| jelkner | ledmer, that is why i want jetro to go first | 21:36 |
| ledmer | but we should set who is doing what here I think | 21:36 |
| jelkner | they can set up email for the first time | 21:36 |
| anthony_p | yeah, let's schedule a meeting with this as the primary focus | 21:36 |
| jelkner | so they don't have the cost of migration | 21:37 |
| jelkner | secosol already hosts there | 21:37 |
| jelkner | and we need some help | 21:37 |
| jelkner | we can hire nova web to help with that | 21:37 |
| jelkner | we still have artifacts from our name change we want to clean out | 21:37 |
| jelkner | also, we can set up sjc email too | 21:37 |
| jelkner | so you get plenty of practice with the system | 21:38 |
| jelkner | before we take on migration | 21:38 |
| anthony_p | we should identify any email addresses that we have that we don't need to worry about previous emails, like any that send out automated or automatic emails as part of processes like the decidim sign up and password reset email account | 21:38 |
| jelkner | let's do this like a good business | 21:38 |
| jelkner | ved, devesh we should draw up budgets | 21:38 |
| jelkner | and get nova web folks to take on these separate email tasks | 21:39 |
| jelkner | and then bill for delivering! | 21:39 |
| Marin | I think there are also a lot of people that currently have emails on the mail server that dont use/ need them anymore | 21:39 |
| anthony_p | those can be the initial ones we use for figuring out/testing the process because they don't receive emails so we won't lose anything by moving them first | 21:39 |
| jelkner | Yes, Marin | 21:39 |
| jelkner | we won't move those | 21:39 |
| Marin | sounds good! | 21:40 |
| jelkner | ok, we agreed to pursue this | 21:40 |
| jelkner | we'll work out the details later | 21:40 |
| jelkner | next items, which is related | 21:40 |
| ved | Okay devesh and I will take care of the business side of handling this mail server job | 21:40 |
| jelkner | anthony_p, you have long been requesting a better project management process | 21:40 |
| jelkner | we definitely need to better track what we are doing | 21:41 |
| jelkner | i signed us up for a trial account with OpenProject | 21:41 |
| jelkner | do we want to subscribe for this and try to use it? | 21:41 |
| ved | what is that | 21:41 |
| ved | ? | 21:41 |
| ledmer | It's an opensource tool for project management | 21:42 |
| anthony_p | i think we should definitely give it a go, see if we can't get some of the stuff we're working on going a bit smoother and making projects more accessible for people to assist with | 21:42 |
| jelkner | https://www.openproject.org/ | 21:42 |
| ved | how much is it | 21:42 |
| jelkner | i would have to pay for a subscription | 21:42 |
| jelkner | not much if we get the small tier | 21:42 |
| jelkner | but it means only 5 accounts | 21:42 |
| jelkner | i kind of like that restriction | 21:42 |
| jelkner | since we need to get better organized | 21:43 |
| ledmer | our team is not that big anyways | 21:43 |
| ved | 5 accounts for $435 a year is quite a bit | 21:43 |
| ved | are you sure its necessary | 21:43 |
| anthony_p | it's also possible to install it and manage it personally as well | 21:43 |
| jelkner | yes, anthony_p | 21:43 |
| anthony_p | the subscriptions are for them to host it i believe | 21:43 |
| jelkner | but we are then faced with the same problem | 21:44 |
| anthony_p | but we should certainly do the trial first | 21:44 |
| jelkner | we are having enough trouble with decidim | 21:44 |
| jelkner | now we are going to take on managing something new? | 21:44 |
| ved | theres also a free community version on openproject. Is that of any use? | 21:44 |
| jelkner | let's jump ahead and come back to this | 21:45 |
| jelkner | !agenda | 21:45 |
| LittleWebster | This is the agenda for the next meeting: | 21:45 |
| LittleWebster | Move NOVA Web email to May First? (added by jelkner) | 21:45 |
| LittleWebster | Try OpenProject for project management? (added by jelkner) | 21:45 |
| LittleWebster | Test Decidim Server (added by johan_f) | 21:45 |
| jelkner | Do we have a Test Decidim server yet? | 21:45 |
| anthony_p | it's in the process | 21:45 |
| jelkner | johan_f has been taking initiative, but he's blocking on this now | 21:46 |
| johan_f | around what period do you think it will be up anthony_p? | 21:46 |
| anthony_p | i have cloned ours and need to set up the address in our dns | 21:46 |
| jelkner | so we definitely don't want to take on more tasks until we can handle what we've got | 21:46 |
| ledmer | I say we should try it out | 21:46 |
| johan_f | thats good to hear anthony_p | 21:46 |
| ledmer | going back on the open project thing, and then see if its going to be convenient to pay or not | 21:47 |
| jelkner | ledmer, we either pay or we don't do it | 21:48 |
| anthony_p | how long is the trial period? | 21:48 |
| anthony_p | or does the trial just have limited features? | 21:48 |
| jelkner | i will oppose taking on any more infrastructure | 21:48 |
| jelkner | no | 21:48 |
| johan_f | i think the trial just ended | 21:48 |
| jelkner | it's free sottware | 21:48 |
| jelkner | one more week for the trial | 21:48 |
| jelkner | who would be the 5 project managers? | 21:49 |
| jelkner | that's the question | 21:49 |
| jelkner | our problem is organization and capacity | 21:49 |
| jelkner | we need to focus on that | 21:49 |
| jelkner | we need to: | 21:49 |
| jelkner | 1. start projects | 21:49 |
| jelkner | 2. assign responsible people to do them | 21:49 |
| jelkner | 3. do them!!!! | 21:50 |
| jelkner | 4. bill for the completed work | 21:50 |
| jelkner | and track all this | 21:50 |
| ledmer | anthony_p please correct me but these tools aren't supposed to be used by the whole team | 21:51 |
| jelkner | project managers need them | 21:51 |
| anthony_p | well, we need someone from the business side of things to create projects/tasks I think, but also SMEs | 21:51 |
| ledmer | right but I thought that not only them had access to them | 21:51 |
| jelkner | ledmer, the problem is that ideally, in a horizontal cooperative, *everyone* should learn to manage projects | 21:51 |
| jelkner | but in reality | 21:51 |
| jelkner | we need to start out with some folks learning to do it before others | 21:51 |
| anthony_p | project management is definitely a whole team process | 21:52 |
| jelkner | so that's why i'm asking | 21:52 |
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| jelkner | who will the project manager be? | 21:52 |
| jelkner | managers | 21:52 |
| jelkner | we get 5 | 21:52 |
| jelkner | devesh, i nominate you | 21:52 |
| jelkner | and me | 21:52 |
| anthony_p | I feel like it's a role that I am probably more familiar with than most, since I've actually done project and team management in the past, but there's lots of dust and rust to shake off | 21:53 |
| jelkner | since as the business manager next year | 21:53 |
| jelkner | it will be crucial that you start to get a view of how to move projects from customer initiation to completion | 21:53 |
| jelkner | devesh, are you in? | 21:53 |
| jelkner | anthony_p, you too then | 21:53 |
| jelkner | that's three of us | 21:54 |
| ledmer | i should probabbly learn it too | 21:55 |
| jelkner | excellent | 21:55 |
| jelkner | that's 4 | 21:55 |
| devesh | yes, I'd be willing to go through with that | 21:55 |
| jelkner | ok that's enough | 21:55 |
| jelkner | we can leave one spot open | 21:55 |
| jelkner | klarios should be here too | 21:55 |
| jelkner | but she's not here | 21:56 |
| jelkner | i'll call her | 21:56 |
| jelkner | that's good | 21:56 |
| ledmer | I think it's fine if we leave that spot open | 21:56 |
| jelkner | we got through all three agenda items | 21:56 |
| jelkner | anything else before we close the meeting? | 21:56 |
| anthony_p | okay, i have to clear some issues up from the cloning process, but the test decidim should be working by the end of the night | 21:56 |
| ledmer | we could even make "shared account" for anybody else that wants to use it | 21:57 |
| jelkner | great anthony_p | 21:57 |
| jelkner | please let johan_F know as soon as it is | 21:57 |
| jelkner | mulbahkolleh_, get some sleep | 21:57 |
| anthony_p | will do, is there a way you prefer to be notified johan_F? | 21:57 |
| johan_F | can you send a email? | 21:58 |
| anthony_p | i will do so | 21:58 |
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| johan_F | I'll make sure to have tested some of the plug ins by next meeting then | 21:58 |
| jelkner | if we are finished... | 21:59 |
| jelkner | great meeting! | 21:59 |
| ledmer | I think we are | 21:59 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off | 21:59 |
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| mulbah | let finish the project ledmer | 22:03 |
| ledmer | yep | 22:04 |
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