IRC log of #novawebdev for Thursday, 2025-01-16

johan_f!add Overrides and Deface method19:18
LittleWebsterSuccess: "Overrides and Deface method" has been added to the agenda.19:18
johan_f!add Test Decidim Server19:18
LittleWebsterSuccess: "Test Decidim Server" has been added to the agenda.19:18
klariosHey Johan!19:51
klariosI think Anthony is on our BBB group 19:51
klariosIll send you the info so that you can join that 19:51
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klariosI sent an email a bit ago about the login details. It was sent to your nova web development email19:55
klariosjohan_f: Im wondering if you may be disconnected ?19:56
johan_fsorry i was on a different tab19:57
klariosthats ok no worries19:59
klarioslet me know if you saw the email19:59
johan_fI see the email. I'll join in a bit20:00
johan_fbut I won't be able to talk for a bit as Jeff is also in a meeting in the same room as I.20:01
klarioshmm I see. If you want we can just meet here and postpone the webcam meeting for next week20:02
klariosor if the other classroom is open you can try that as well20:03
johan_fI'd prefer to do it here but I don't mind moving to another classroom20:04
klarioshey tboimah 20:06
tboimahHow are you doing klarios ?20:06
klariosgood thank you20:06
klariosare you having a meeting here soon tboimah 20:07
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tboimahYeah, Jeff said we should meet today.20:07
klariosahh I see20:08
klariosit seems we have conflicting schedules20:08
tboimahbut no stress, I think he just want me to be part of nova web development meeting20:08
klarioshey freena!20:09
klarioslong time no talk20:09
klarioshow are you?20:09
freenaHi klarios 20:09
freenaIt's been a while since we talked 20:09
klariostboimah:  got it, if you guys have a meeting with him here I wouldnt want to interrupt20:09
freenaI'm fine and you klarios 20:10
klarioswe can move to the other channel20:10
klariosfreena: GOod, just a bit sick but getting better20:10
tboimahNO klarios , I think he just want us to be part of nova web meeting20:10
freenaOh sorry, I wish you speedy recovery 20:11
klariosJetro team, Im wondering if youll be discussing decidim with jeff today?20:11
klariostboimah: got it20:11
johan_fklarios a lot of the classrooms are locked right now20:12
klariosWell we will meet here instead johan_f 20:12
johan_falright20:12
klariosthats alright. I didnt expect the jetro team to join but its great news that you guys are20:12
klariosMe, johan, and anthony are going to be working together in the NOVA web side to brainstorm and execute projects that will allow more immersion into decidim from both teams20:14
klariosthats one of our goals20:14
johan_fagreed20:14
johan_fklarios is tony able to make it?20:15
klariosI wanted to meet today so that we could outline more goals or ideas you may have in mind so that the project becomes a working product 20:15
klariosI think tony is driving right now20:15
klarioshe might be in person today20:15
johan_funderstood20:15
klariosI am not sure if we went through making accounts and the first steps of decidim with jetro, but can you confirm that you have accounts and are able to log in?20:16
klariosI know freena, thomas, and daniel have accounts20:17
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klariosits important to get svaye_ an account and anyone else who is interested in participating20:18
klariossvaye_: were you in the decidim training session we had a couple of months ago?20:19
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freenaNo she wasn't 20:20
svaye__No klarios, I wasn't 20:20
freenaIt's was janet20:20
klariosim wondering if her connection is working20:20
klariosgot it. Do you know if she would be able to make it to future meetings? freena 20:21
freenaSure 20:21
svaye__Of course20:21
klariosSorry I didnt see your message svaye__ . We will work on making you an account today20:21
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klariosand giving you a little tutorial20:22
svaye__Alright 20:22
klariosif thats okay I want to do that after the meeting20:22
klariosso that we dont take meeting time20:22
svaye__No problem20:23
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klariosAs I mentioned before, our goals is to get our teams to use decidim, to get decidim working correctly, and to learn ruby to do updates, debugging and other maintanance20:25
johan_fIve been working on how to get our teams to use decidim more20:26
johan_fIve been working with the accountability module to act as a way to manage projects20:26
johan_fhttps://decidim.novawebdevelopment.org/assemblies/novaweborg/f/60/results/320:26
klarioshere are some of the ways Nova Web has been using decidim: Meetings, Agendas, Notes, Processes or Projects, etc.20:27
klariosgreat! this is one of the features I really want to get using. Projects or processes can sometimes be unconcise or lacking objective date , goals, or timelines20:28
johan_fthat module is able to integrate relevant meetings, proposals and set deadlines for projects20:30
klarios+1 this is one what the processes or projects are missing20:31
freenaWow 20:31
daniel_Hi guys20:31
johan_fthough I have been having some issues that I'll have to talk with Tony about20:31
klarioshi daniel_ ! Please dont forget to look through the log to catch up with us20:31
klariosjohan_f: are we able to use the gem without any problems/bugs20:32
johan_fthe main issue is that when you load the accountability module it will act like there are no projects 20:33
johan_fhowever if you use the search bar it does appear20:34
klarioshmm it might be because it doesnt recognize the instance but its added 20:35
klarioshttps://github.com/spree/deface20:35
klarioshas anthony reached back to you?20:35
johan_fits a issue that I found just recently I was hoping to tell him the issue in this meeting20:37
klariosSince he's probably heading that way you will be able to 20:38
johan_fagreed20:38
klarioswhat other components do you think we could benefit from?20:38
klariosI was hoping in the future we could use the election components for decidim a worker owner20:39
scooperHello everyone20:40
klarioshello scooper 20:40
klarios!20:40
klariosscooper: you should scroll through the logs and catch up with us 20:41
klariosI meant a Nova web Worker owner20:41
scooperI'm doing so already20:42
klariosand surveys for end of month/ end of year evaluations20:42
klariosscooper: great!20:42
johan_fI believe that the elections module is still in development20:42
johan_fbut it could likely be used that way20:42
klariosif we get it to work, we can use it to prove that we held elections 20:45
klariosthat being said some of the items that we have for the week are the following: Making an account for svaye__ , figuring out the accountability component issue, testing other components for future use, getting Jetro to use decidim20:47
klariosanything else you want to add jetro? johan_f ?20:47
johan_fI can set users to be admin for the jetro assembly20:49
tboimahTo be honest Jetro have not been looking at decidim for sometime now, but we will start to do that and get back to you guys20:49
klariosthank you johan_f. tboimah if we could meet next week we can figure out what exactly jetro needs to start to do to use decidim effectively20:50
tboimah__sure!20:51
johan_fsounds good klarios20:52
klariosI dont want to take more of your time. Thank you for meeting with us. I can post the notes of todays meeting in both jetro and decidim 20:52
klariossvaye__: I will make you an account right now if you can stay20:52
tboimah__klarios, will Jeff not be coming to day?20:52
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klariosjeff will probably be attending the Nova web meeting at 4:30 20:53
klariosthe meeting at 3 was to discuss decidim20:53
tboimah__which will be 9:30 our time klarios ?20:54
klariosyep 20:54
klariossvaye__: I will message you to set up your account20:55
shallonAlright klarios 20:55
scooperklarios can you confirm that Sahnun will be part of this meeting by 9:30?20:55
klariosthank you all for coming! If you will be attending the meeting at 9:30 your time, I will see you there20:55
klariosI am not sure if sahnun will be there but if jeff say he would be there I would assume he would20:56
klarioshey anthony_p 20:56
anthony_phey klarios20:56
johan_fhello anthony_p20:56
anthony_phi johan_f20:56
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klariosare you online today?20:56
klariosor are you heading to arlington?20:57
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anthony_pi'm sick today, was sleeping until a bit ago, realized i missed the meeting, apologies20:57
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klariosthat's alright I hope you feel better soon20:57
klarioswe just had a meeting. I didnt expect the jetro team to be here but we got to outline our goals and agenda for the week20:58
klariosI am going to go to a phone call soon so I dont have much time, but if you scroll through the logs youll see what we talked about20:59
klariosjohan_f: now that anthony is here you can inquire with him as well21:00
johan_fanthony_p I've been having some issues with the accountability module21:00
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klariosI will go to my other meeting now21:00
klariosthank you all for meeting!21:00
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johan_fbye klarios21:01
anthony_pwhat issues have you been having?21:01
johan_fif you enter here:https://decidim.novawebdevelopment.org/assemblies/novaweborg/f/60/21:01
johan_fit displays that there are no projects in progress21:01
johan_fmoreover if you enter the NOVA Web Development scope it still won't display one of the 'results' (projects)21:03
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anthony_pi'm going to have to look deeper into it johan_f21:15
johan_falright21:15
johan_fit does show up if you search for it but I still think it should be able to show up under 'all' or 'NOVA Web Development' scope21:16
johan_fOther than that if you could restart the test server and help me figure out how to override the views of the modules21:17
johan_fthat would be great21:18
tboimah Good day jelkner.21:20
anthony_pwill do21:20
anthony_pi'll get on the test server in a bit to reset it21:20
johan_fthanks anthony_p21:21
johan_fAlso I hope you feel better anthony_p21:22
svaye_Good day jelkner 21:23
ledmerhi!21:23
svaye_Hi ledmer 21:24
tboimah_Good day ledmer 21:24
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scooperGood afternoon jelkner 21:28
jelknerGood evening scooper 21:29
jelknerhello anthony_p 21:29
jelknerand ledmer 21:29
jelknerhello klarios 21:29
klarioshello all again21:29
klarioshello jelkner 21:29
scooperHello klarios 21:30
jelknerwho is chairing out meeting this evening?21:30
jelkner!agenda21:30
LittleWebsterThis is the agenda for the next meeting:21:30
LittleWebsterOverrides and Deface method (added by johan_f)21:30
LittleWebsterTest Decidim Server (added by johan_f)21:30
jelknercan i request that we start having chairs other than me?21:31
ledmersure21:31
ledmerwe could rotate it21:31
jelkner+121:31
klarios+121:31
johan_f!remove Test Decidim Server21:31
LittleWebsterSuccess: "Test Decidim Server" has been removed from the agenda.21:31
klariosI can do it21:32
klariosI still havent posted the notes to our meeting at 3 but I can post them after this meeting21:32
jelknergo for it klarios 21:32
ledmer!help21:32
LittleWebsterAvailable commands: !add, !agenda, !help, !remove21:32
klarios!agenda21:32
LittleWebsterThis is the agenda for the next meeting:21:32
LittleWebsterOverrides and Deface method (added by johan_f)21:32
klariosToday the Decidim team met along with the Jetro team to determine our goals and agenda for next week. The first thing in the agenda is the overrides and deface method21:33
klariosanthony_p: and johan_f were you able to figure out the issue with the accountability component21:34
johan_fwe weren't able to fix it21:34
jelkneri was delighted when johan_f told me you were meeting!21:34
jelknerwe really need to keep dogfooding decidim!21:34
jelkneri will be dragging the jetro websters into it21:35
klariosjelkner: yeah were working on agenda items for next week as well21:35
anthony_pi am looking into the accountability module issues21:35
jelkneranthony_p, johan_f showed me that21:35
jelknerit looks very promising21:35
klariosone of the items of the agenda was Learn Overrides and Deface Gem21:35
anthony_pamd resetting the test server after the meeting21:35
johan_fto explain the agenda item to everyone I essentially want to explore more on how we can actually customize each decidim module view21:35
klarioshttps://decidim.novawebdevelopment.org/assemblies/novaweborg/f/19/proposals/1121:35
jelkneryup, we don't want to talk shop in the 4:30 pm meeting21:35
johan_fI talk a lot more about it in here:https://decidim.novawebdevelopment.org/assemblies/novaweborg/f/60/results/3 and in the link klarios gave21:36
jelknerother than to let folks know it is happening21:36
jelknerbut johan_f told me about it21:36
jelknerwhat it means is that y'all are starting to get into the app21:36
jelknerexposing yourself to rails and ruby21:36
jelknerfrom a business planning perspective21:36
klariosgreat! we want nova web and jetro to use the accountability component to give more detail, updates, and timelines to projects21:37
jelkneras a smal coop with *very* limited resources21:37
jelknerwe have two main tech focuses21:37
jelknerDjango and Decidim21:37
jelknerdepending on where we can find paying customers21:37
jelknerwe will have to shift our resources around21:38
jelknerthis is a year of skills development21:38
klarios+121:38
anthony_p+121:38
johan_f+121:38
ledmer+121:38
Ved +21:39
klariosanthony_p: the next item in decidim's agenda is to figure out the accountability component issue so that we can easily select the projects 21:39
klariosif that can be done then Nova web and jetro will need to start putting all current projects into decidim21:40
jelknerfor the benefit of the jetro web folks, we are working to set up decidim for project management21:40
jelknerso that we can better organize our work and track our progress21:40
klarioswe want to get it to look like this: https://omastadi.hel.fi/?locale=en21:40
johan_fcurrently the only way to view the projects is if you know the title of it21:41
johan_fklarios +121:41
jelkneronly not in finish ;-)21:41
anthony_pi saw that the different items created by the accountability module exist in the system, they're just not showing up properly and you have to go through the administrative panel to see them or search for them21:41
klarios+1 true 21:41
anthony_pyou can also click on them from activity feeds21:41
anthony_pbut i want to explore the module a bit more before looking into the code, since it may be a configuration setting or publish option we're not seeing21:42
klarios+1 I agree, I think we should do that with all the modules21:43
klariosin the meeting I mentioned that the election module can be useful for selecting worker owners in the future21:43
klariosor the survey module can be good for worker evaluations 21:43
klarioswhich is something we dont have21:43
jelknerhello jamesoconnr!21:44
klarioshi jamesoconnr !21:44
jamesoconnrhello21:44
jelknermadem chair, can i take a moment to say something?21:44
klariosjelkner: go ahead21:44
jelknerthanks21:44
jelknereveryone, i want to make a strong plea (i've just been telling Ved and devesh that i plan to be a pain in the butt about it)21:45
jelknerthat we all make a strong effort to be here each thursday from 4:30 to 5 pm21:45
jelknerwe are going to need to trust each other if we want our coop to succeed21:45
klarios+121:46
jelknerand being able to rely on everyone to be present (both mentally and physically)21:46
jelkneris a very important part of building that trust21:46
Ved+121:46
devesh+121:46
anthony_p+121:46
johan_f+121:46
jelkneri'm really glad you're here jamesoconnr 21:46
jelknerif we get the CPA contract21:46
jelknerwe will be relying on you as the main dev representing us21:47
jelknerso it will be important that the whole team knows who you are21:47
jelknerand can have contact with you once a week21:47
jelknerACTION done, gets down from his soap box21:47
jamesoconnrOk, I'll be here more regularly and on time in the future21:48
jelknerthanks my friend!21:48
jelknerthis goes for everyone21:49
klariosthank you jelkner. I agree that we need to have more communication between the teams and plan according to what will make us money to sustain ourselves, coop connections, and trust within ourselves21:49
klariosyes, thank you jelkner 21:50
klariosthat being said21:50
klariosIn the development side. Are there any current projects/ Costumers you are currently doing work for jamesoconnr , ledmer , Ved , devesh, blu ?21:50
jelknerVed and devesh should start giving us brief business reports21:51
VedNone yet on my side. Still working on dealing with CPA and a coop in Miami21:51
VedOnce we have them we will let you know. We will also try to find more organizations like CPA21:51
jelkneri should add that the excellent work jamesoconnr did for ARTraffic will hopefully pay off with CPA21:51
jelknerSince we used them as a reference based on that good work21:52
jelkner7 minutes left21:53
jelknerthe flip side of struggling with folks to show is respecting their valuable time21:53
jelknerwe should end a 5 pm sharp21:53
klariosgot it. Thank you, I have been messaging a bit with eleanor from GMU to get a my university and GMu to collaborate on things they have in common. There are a lot of people in need for websites and work done on current websites. I want to let you know that I will pursue them as costumers but I also want to be sure that we have the manpower to take on big costumers and others21:53
scooperJeff, after this seven minutes will you switch to talk with us???21:54
jelknersure scooper i can do that21:54
jelknerover on the other channel21:54
jelknerklarios, eleanor and naruti will start coming here on thursdays beginning 1/3121:54
VedAlso looking forward to meeting about the labor spring event on the 30th21:54
jelkner+121:55
scoopercan you kindly invite the administrator on the Social Justice Website repository so we all can talk??21:55
klarios+1 great thank you. When I am back I can Introduce ved, devesh to the organizers of some orgnizations21:56
klariosjelkner: yes, I believe we can make great connections there as well21:56
VedThat'd be great21:56
klariosThank you. That is all from me and also great job with fixing the bot ledmer!21:57
jelknerthanks ledmer!21:57
jelkneri'll be looking forward to that invoice ;-)21:57
klariosis there anything we want on our agenda for next week? 21:58
klarioselse*21:58
jelkneryes klarios, the mail migration21:58
jelkneri'll add it21:58
klariosalright thank you jelkner 21:58
jelknermattva01 isn't coming today21:58
jelknerbut it looks like he can work with ledmer on that21:58
jelknerACTION done21:58
klariosI will be posting the notes for this meeting and the previous one in the decidim after today21:58
klariosthank you all for coming21:59
klarioshave a great rest of your day!21:59
anthony_pthanks everyone21:59
jamesoconnrThanks, see you next thursday!21:59
jelkneroh madam chair21:59
jelknerone last thing21:59
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klariossure go aheaf jelkner 21:59
jelkneryou need to pick a chair for next week21:59
klariosoh sure21:59
jelknerthen you're finished21:59
klarioswho volunteers21:59
klarios?21:59
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deveshI can do it22:00
klariosThank you devesh ! 22:00
svaye__klarios, when are we going to talk about decidim22:00
klariossvaye__: If you are avaliable after your meeting with Jeff. I can send you the instructions over on email22:00
svaye__jelkner, I just sent you an email please check it22:01
jelknersvaye__, why don't you focus on that now22:01
jelkneri can meet with the rest of the jetro folks and they can fill you in22:01
klariosdevesh: I will be posting the notes to this meeting n the decidim and some agenda items for next week22:01
klariosI will send you an email with the details later today22:01
klariosHave a good one!22:02
svaye__Alright jelkner 22:02
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devesh+122:02
johan_fbye everyone!22:02
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shmohamudHi Scooper22:47
shmohamudsorry I'm late22:47
shmohamudHow're you22:47
scooperHi22:48
scoopershmohamud, 22:48
scooperwelcome22:48
scooperI m fine22:48
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shmohamudOk, so what's going on22:48
scooperI explain the issue to jeff but he is saying he will like to heard from you22:49
scooperSo could you please better explain it to him???22:49
shmohamudOk, the Git issue?22:50
scooperyes22:50
shmohamudYou want me to explain to him?22:50
scooperyes...22:50
scooperI explain to him and he said he will like to heard from you and maybe ask Blu mom since she is a git expert22:51
scooperFor my understanding here is that the administrator who created the repository need to give me write access" base on what I research yesterday22:52
shmohamudSpencer, Thomas is your guy22:54
shmohamudHe has Admin privileges22:54
shmohamudhe has to give you push privileges22:54
scooperPerfect22:56
scooperIf that is the issue I will inform him tomorrow22:56
shmohamudYes, that is the best path of action22:57
scooperThanks shmohamud! If this work I will let you know.. Lastly can I go now??22:57
shmohamudYes, you can. Thank you for demonstrating dedication by showing up.22:59
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scooperOk, shmohamud thanks for always being there to help..23:09
scooperACTION leaving now23:09
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