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anthony_phello freena19:55
johan_fhello anthony_p, freena19:57
johan_fhello klarios20:01
anthony_phello johan_f20:01
anthony_phello klarios20:01
klarioshello all! I apologize I dont come well prepared20:01
freenaHello johan_f, klarios and anthony_p 20:01
klariossince we had some items from last week we can bring them up now20:03
klariosfor me would be updating about the accountability module. I moved the contents from accountabability to development in the Nova Web assembly20:03
klariosI was able to do it succesfully but still had the attachment issue20:04
klariosfor the CPA result, I wanted to add the CPA contract so that everyone could see it20:04
klariosanthony_p: were you able to look into the attachments issue?20:04
anthony_pi have been looking into the attachments issue and have come up empty, still working on it20:05
anthony_pi updated the swamp rose coop item in the development module20:05
klarioshello! jelkner btw I am on my way to NOVA, earlier than anticipated20:05
anthony_ponly thing remaining is invoicing them20:05
jelknerAre you near a phone klarios?20:06
jelknerCould I give you a quick call?20:06
klariosjelkner: I am on the amtrak right now and have no cell20:06
klarioslets call when i get here20:06
jelknerwhen i get here?20:06
jelknerlol, i'm confused :-)20:06
klariosanthony_p: I can ask devesh/ ved to invoice them at todays meeting20:07
jelknergood evening tboimah and freena 20:07
tboimahGood day folks20:07
tboimahGood day jelkner 20:07
klariosanthony_p: About the attachment issuse, perhaps we can message them about it20:07
anthony_pi've already talked to ved about it20:07
freenaGood evening jelkner 20:07
jelknertboimah, were you able to connect with anthony_p earlier?20:07
klariosjelkner: sorry I meant there*20:07
tboimahI email him but no respond20:07
jelknerfreena, i hear good things about your efforts from johan_f 20:08
tboimahanthony_p, did you see my mail?20:08
jelknerklarios, when is that?20:08
jelknerthat you get here, i mean?20:08
anthony_ptboimah, haven't seen any emails, i've been in class most of today20:08
jelkneri wanted to chat with you about our visit to see anthony_p, and our next SECOSOL board meeting20:08
jelknerwhich we could do on the same day20:09
tboimahanthony_p, can you please check you mail, both novawebdevelopment and you personal mail20:09
tboimah*your20:09
jelkneranyway, glad to have you both here20:09
jelkneranthony_p, tboimah is excited about working with you on decidim20:09
klariosjelkner: im getting to burke at 3:50 20:10
jelknertoday?20:10
klariosjelkner: I wanted to go to the networking event with the USFWC20:10
anthony_pstrange, i didn't get that email in my nova webmail, though it was definitely sent there20:10
klariosyes today20:10
jelknerand how long will you be up in our area?20:10
jelkneranthony_p, we *must* get our infrastructure working20:11
tboimahanthony_p, check your personal mail20:11
tboimahI also send it their20:11
jelknermy plan for today is to work with luis to set up novawebdevelopment.coop email addresses for us20:11
klariosI want to stay here for the rest of the semester, I am doing my classes online. Unfortunately VT is required to report me to immigration and I cant risk that20:11
jelknerthen once that is working, we can ask mattva01 for help getting the old domain to forward to the new one20:11
anthony_pi did, that's how i know i should have gotten it, but didn't in my novawebdevelopment email20:11
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jelknerklarios, can we meet this weekend?20:12
tboimahI also have that same mail issue with louis20:12
klariosyes, I dont have busses this weekend though 20:12
jelknernear you, i mean20:12
tboimahThat is way the SECOSOL project is going slow20:12
klariosyes that would work20:12
jelknerlet me see if i can borrow my wife's care sunday morning20:12
klariosthank you jelkner 20:12
anthony_pi've  been moving away from gmail anyway, i use a new personal email, kryvnus@proton.me20:12
jelknerand we can grab coffee near you20:12
klariosis anthony_p coming?20:12
jelknerACTION goes to update anthony_p in his contacts ;-)20:13
klarioswhy/how is the email not working? tboimah anthony_p 20:14
tboimahIs like novawebdevelopment mail is give issue20:14
tboimahI also have that problem with louis20:14
anthony_pno clue, tboimah sent an email to my nova and gmail accounts, it only reached gmail20:14
klariosI had the same issue over the summer 20:15
anthony_pbut i do get email in my nova account, that's how i was communicating with swamp rose20:15
klariosyou dont get any nova web emails anthony_p 20:15
klarios?20:15
anthony_pit may be a problem with the jetrowebdevelopment.com mail server not communicating properly with the novawebdevelopment.org mail server if its an issue with other folks as well20:16
anthony_pi get most nova emails20:16
klariosdo you get members/ admin emails anthony_p 20:16
klarios?20:16
anthony_pi get members, probably admins too, haven't looked20:16
anthony_pi get contact as well20:17
anthony_pyeah, i get the admin ones too20:17
klariosalright that's good20:17
jkollie_greetings everyone20:17
klariosjohan_f: do you get members/admin emails?20:17
anthony_pthe issue seems to be with emails between jetro and nova on our mail servers maybe? if it's an issue that luis and i are both having with receiving emails from jetro addresses20:18
johan_fi know that i get members emails20:18
anthony_pThis is the mostly complete Swamp Rose development accountability entry: https://decidim.novawebdevelopment.org/assemblies/novaweborg/f/60/results/1320:18
anthony_pa small job should look mostly like this, i imagine, maybe a few more results if we need a couple more steps in the process20:19
klariosgreat! thank you for the update anthony_p 20:19
anthony_pbut this was a relatively simple job20:19
tboimah__anthony_p, can you please respond to my email, or find time so that we can meet and discuss about the Decidim project, I have some question to ask you please.20:19
anthony_pdidn't have to do any development work, just configuration work, because they have a graphic designer20:19
johan_fanthony_p looks great20:20
anthony_ptboimah__ absolutely, we should talk and i will respond to the email20:20
klariosfreena: jkollie_ tboimah. An item that should be of priority next week would be adding the secosol blog integration into the accountability projects20:20
tboimah__Okay i will be waiting your respond anthony_p, Thanks20:20
tboimah__*for20:20
klariostboimah__: +120:21
anthony_ptboimah__ I just started a direct message thing in irc with you20:21
anthony_pso what is our current topic for the meeting?20:22
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klariosWe have topics carried over from last week but if anyone has any updates/ something new they did 20:23
klariosor suggestions as to what we should do next week it would be great20:24
johan_fSo both the deface gem and overloading files can change views in Decidim.  20:24
johan_fThe issues with the deface gem has made me focus more on the overloading files to change views20:25
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freenaklarios: 20:26
johan_fI've made a lot more progress using that method but it is mainly difficult to find the right file for what i want to modify20:26
klariosjohan_f: would it be better to use overloading files to change views?20:26
klariosyes freena ?20:26
klariosthat makes sense, is there any documentation on it johan_f ?20:26
johan_fits on the same page where it talks about the deface gem20:27
freenaWe're you saying that the secosol blog should be added to Jetro Web accountability project?? klarios 20:27
johan_fhttps://docs.decidim.org/en/develop/customize/views.html20:27
johan_fessentially you can use the production.log to see what files actually modify the view20:28
klariosfreena: yeah, tboimah is working with luis on the integration of the blog for secosol, I was thinking we add updates/ timelines to the project in the jetro web assembly20:28
freenaAlright 20:29
klariosjohan_f: does every small thing have to be changed? sounds very time consuming20:29
anthony_pjelkner, I wanted to add the registration page you gave me as an iframe in the dnova decidim, but with the upgrade to 29, none of the decidim plugins that offer iframe integration work20:29
anthony_pi was talking to some of the developers and was told that the decidimawesome plugin is in process of being updated and tested right now, but until that's done, i can't put a general iframe in to embed the registration page, and it has to just be a link to the registration page20:31
klariosjohan_f: Is there any chance we can use the Staticcontroller? as the barcelona decidim?20:32
klarioswhat do you think would be easier/ more documented20:32
klarios?20:32
johan_fif we want to modify the view then it would be easier to do the other two methods20:32
johan_fif we wanted to create something entirely new then it would likely be easier to use Staticcontroller20:33
klariosWe dont have much time to come up with something new so the other two are more likely to be used20:33
klariosin the future we can use staticcontroller for our costumers20:34
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klarioshttps://www.decidim.barcelona/20:35
klariosthe view is pretty good20:36
klariosany other topics we need to update?20:38
jelknerbtw everyone, i should update you on the meeting i had with the GMU folks yesterday20:38
klariosor bring up?20:38
jelknercan i share about that klarios?20:38
klariosplease do jelkner 20:38
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jelknerit's good news20:38
jelknerwe talked about decidim20:39
klariosgreat!20:39
jelknerBen is definitely on board to use it20:39
jelknerhe asked about the possibility of using it for the teach-in project20:39
jelkneri told him we are not ready to support that20:39
jelknersince it will be up to hundreds of thousands of users20:40
jelknerand teach-ins all across US, Canada, and potentially beyond20:40
anthony_pah, yeah, that would take a much larger server20:40
jelkneri told him about Open Source Politics20:40
jelknerand that when we spoke to them last, they charged $20K for a project like that20:40
jelknerfor a year of set up and training20:40
jelknerso Ben is going to reach out to them20:41
jelknerif that should come to pass, we will ask if their kind offer a few years back to let us "ride shotgun" with them still holds20:41
jelknerwe could then learn from them how they do it20:41
jelkneranyway, i'll keep you posted20:41
jelknerbut for now, we are going to keep learning on our own20:42
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jelknerwith the expanded group of jetro folks joining us20:42
jelknerACTION done20:42
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klariosthank you jelkner. Hopefully we collaborate in the near future20:44
klarioswe must for towards it20:44
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klariosif there are no more updates from jetro web/ nova web, then that would be all from me20:45
klariosjelkner: I will call you at 4:15 if that works20:46
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jelknertboimah, do you have what you need to get started?20:47
jelkneri don't know how late you can stay, but luis and ved will be here in about 30 minutes20:48
jelknertboimah, we should talk about this at our meeting on Saturday20:48
jelknerfreena, jkollie_, svaye i can let you know too20:48
jelknernow i mean20:49
svaye_+1 jelkner 20:49
jelknerlike i've been saying for awhile, we need to move you all to the point where you can do paid work20:49
klarioswill be back at 4:3020:49
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jelkneri talked to tboimah first, since he is the most ready to do that, but from what johan_f has been saying freena, you might be next20:50
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jelkneri am still the funder20:50
jelknerso that means our funds are limited20:50
freenaOkay jelkner 20:50
jelknerbut i want to start with 2 of you working 20 hours per week at $5 per hour20:51
jelkneryou need to be willing to work hard and *really deliver*!20:51
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jelknerwe need to move decidim forward20:51
freenaOkay jelkner 20:51
jelkneras fast as we can20:51
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freenaAlright 20:52
jelknerso tboimah will work with anthony_p luis on decidim server support20:53
fkoikoi+1 jelkner20:53
tboimah_sure20:54
jelknerfkoikoi will work with johan_f and klarios on learning to use the platform20:55
jelknerand both those groups need to work closely with each other, of course20:55
jelknerwe need to use decidim ourselves20:56
jelknerto plan our own businesses20:56
jelknerbut we also have this huge opportunity now with the dnova summit20:57
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jelkneranthony_p, ben will be waiting for an email from you21:02
jelknerwith the ip address of their decidim instance21:02
jelknerhe controls the dns21:02
jelknerhe decided yesterday that:21:03
jelknerdnova.nextsystem.org will be pointed at their instance of decidim21:03
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anthony_pjelkner just sent the email to ben21:06
jelkneryou rock!21:08
jelknerthanks anthony_p 21:08
anthony_pwe're supposed to be doing some accountability module training right now21:08
anthony_pforgot all about it, just started the jitsi chat if people want to jump in21:08
fkoikoi__ACTION signing out21:08
anthony_phttps://meet.mayfirst.org/novawebdevelopment21:09
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anthony_pSo, when addign projects or items to an accountability module, they're entered as "Results"21:10
anthony_pThis is not a thing that has happened, but a result that the organization is attempting to achieve21:11
anthony_pfor instance, I created a result called Swamp Rose Co-op for my recent work for them. the result I want to achieve is completing the work for them21:12
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anthony_pi put a description of the work they requested into the Swamp Rose Co-op result21:12
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tboimah_anthony_p, I send you some question in you private chat can you please respond to me 21:13
tboimahanthony_p, 21:16
jelknertboimah, i'm here21:16
jelkneranthony_p and i are in the jitsi meet21:16
tboimahyeah jelkner 21:17
jelknerbut it seemed it didn't work for you21:17
tboimahI am also there21:17
jelkneri love irc21:17
jelknersince it just works!21:17
tboimahI can hear you21:17
tboimahanthony_p, please respond to my question 21:17
anthony_pi've got about 3 different things going on, one second21:18
anthony_pcan you see what's happening in jitsi?21:18
tboimahI am following jelkner 21:18
tboimahI can see what anthony_p is doing on the screen21:19
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anthony_ptboimah so, you can see the Identify why Uploads are not Working item in the decidim section of Development?21:26
anthony_pThat's one of our items. I'm going to add items into there. You can work on items21:27
tboimahI am not see your screen aging anthony_p 21:27
tboimah*seeing21:27
anthony_pi'm moving to DMs, so we don't get in the way of the other meeting21:27
tboimahanthony_p, I will need you to answer this question please: What has been completed so far?21:28
tboimahWhat are the main tasks that still need to be done?21:28
tboimahAre there any deadlines or key milestones we need to meet?21:28
tboimahIs there a task list or roadmap I can review?21:28
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Vedanyday now devesh21:31
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deveshOkay everyone, let's get started. 21:32
deveshLet's start with the first item: CIDU.21:32
jelknerok, i added these two items21:32
jelknerso i'll explain why21:32
jelkneri received a message from adrian that he got an email from CIDU that their site was down21:32
jelknerCIDU is an important partner21:33
jelknerved told me he is already on top of it21:33
jelknerso maybe he can take it from here?21:33
Vedsure21:33
Vedwe are currently working on starting up their server again21:34
jelknerwhat's the ETA on that?21:34
Vedi noticed we've been paying for 3 years for their server and we charged them only in 202221:34
VedThe server should be brought back up eod21:34
jelkneryes, this is the problem with taking over a business when the folks who ran it before have moved on21:35
VedAnd I plan on calling them to set up a plan21:35
ledmerjelkner, as soon as we get their login access 21:35
jelkner2022 was when adrian stefan and louie were running everything21:35
jelknermaybe we could ask adrian to come in some thursday and meet with y'all on this legacy stuff21:35
jelknerbut for now, it will be learn as you go21:35
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jelknerCIDU is a great partner21:36
jelknerit is a drivers cooperative21:36
jelknernow working with drivers in NYC too21:36
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jelkner2000+ members21:36
jelknera big deal21:36
jelknerwe don't want to mess this up!21:36
jelknerACTION done21:36
Vedof course21:36
devesh_Okay. Should we move onto the next agenda item?21:37
jelknersure21:37
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devesh_That would be the VM maintinance.21:37
jelkneryeah, this is mine too21:37
jelkneri got an email from our service provider21:38
jelknersaying another of our machines was over 100% utilization21:38
jelknerjust wanted to point out how important it is that we learn quickly21:38
jelknermaintaining infrastructure is *a lot* of work21:38
jelkneri personally think we want to minimize how much we need to do it21:39
jelknerthe business team has been busy at work at that21:39
jelknerand that's good21:39
jelknerVERY good!21:39
jelknersince each server we run is a cost21:39
jelknera cost we have to keep carrying21:39
anthony_pi think it's just as important for us to document our infrastructure as well, we need something in gitlab or somewhere that will spell out all active projects on all servers21:39
jelknerif we carry too much, we collapse under the load :-(21:39
jelknerACTION done21:40
ledmeranthony_p, that's what we do with tags21:40
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anthony_ptags aren't enough for new members and future members21:40
anthony_pthose are useful for people familiar with our tagging21:40
jamesoconnrTrue21:41
klariosa tracking system perhaps into business tracker21:41
anthony_pi barely know what most of the tags mean because my focus has not been on infrastructure21:41
anthony_pi can draw some conclusions because of experience, but that involves making assumptions that could be wrong21:41
jamesoconnrMaybe some expansion of the biz tracker server management system would be good21:41
ledmerI agree that would be helpfull 21:42
anthony_pbut the tags are absolutely useful and necessary for those of us that are familiar21:42
ledmerbut who is going to be keeping track of it constantly?21:42
jelknerso, here is where my teacher voice starts ringing in my head ;-)21:42
jelknerwhen we are ready21:42
jelkneri mean our Django team21:42
jelknerhacking on business tracker would be a great thing!21:42
jelknerbut we aren't there yet21:42
jelknerso put that on the ToDo list and move on, i think21:43
anthony_pyep21:43
anthony_pit's something that we do need, a maintained inventory, but it's something that if we lack won't stop us, just create minor problems and headaches for now21:44
devesh_+!21:44
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jelkneri just had a side conversation with bluberry 21:44
jelkneri'm going to ask adrian to come in on some thursdays to give a business tracker workshop21:45
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jelkneri think now that we are ready to learn, he would have fun teaching us21:45
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Veddevesh?21:46
devesh_Is there anything else that needs to be covered?21:46
VedNo21:47
devesh_At this point, let's choose the chair for the next meeting?21:47
devesh_Is anyone interested?21:47
VedAmar?21:47
anthony_pactually, Ved21:47
klariossorry I forgot to mention, the next step for swamp rose is to invoice them 21:47
klariosanthony_p: 21:47
devesh_Amar sounds like a great pick!21:47
anthony_pwhat klarios said21:47
amarNo, i dont think i am ready21:47
VedYes we will be invoicing today21:47
klariosgreat!21:48
anthony_pawesome21:48
devesh_Ved has been selected. 21:48
devesh_That should be it for this meeting! 21:48
devesh_Any other remarks?21:48
VedAlright21:48
anthony_pnothing from me21:49
jelknerYeah Ved!21:49
jelknerfatima said she'd do it the week after that21:49
jelknerjust to put that in the record ;-)21:49
devesh_Okay, that should close it off. Have a good evening everyone!21:49
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jelknerthanks devesh_, great job121:49
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klariosthank you all, have a great rest of your day everyone! 21:50
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johan_fgoodbye everyone21:50
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jelknerjkollie_, tboimah, freena, you all can get to sleep now21:51
jelknerthanks for coming!21:51
jelknersee you saturday21:51
ledmertboimah, can we schedule a time to meet before you leave21:52
tboimahjelkner, I am still working with anthony_p 21:52
anthony_palso, i just noticed something that would have made my life easier, apparently our namecheap account has the ability to manage the swamp rose dns config and settings21:52
jkollie_thanks, take care jelkner21:53
tboimah_sure ledmer 21:53
ledmerok I need to meet with you and spencer21:53
jelkneranthony_p, i'm going to start the 5 pm21:53
ledmerto work on secosol's blog21:53
ledmerwhen can we meet ?21:54
anthony_pthanks jelkner21:54
ledmertboimah_?21:55
tboimah_anthony_p, please check the private chatt21:55
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tboimahHey ledmer_ sorry I was chatting with anthony_p concern the Decidim project22:07
tboimahCan we start on the secosol's blog issue now?22:08
ledmer_oh 22:08
ledmer_I want to set up a time to meet with you and spencer22:08
tboimahSure!22:08
tboimahbecause your email is giving problem22:09
tboimahanytime we message you we can not get any respond22:09
tboimahledmer_, so when do you think will be best for us to meet?22:10
ledmer_anytime over the weekend 22:12
ledmer_would be great22:12
tboimahOkay so what you think about Saturday, 8:00pm my time22:13
ledmer_is your timezone ahead or behind mine22:15
ledmer_let me check it out22:15
tboimahI am ahead of you 5 hour22:15
tboimah*hours22:15
ledmer_okay great 22:15
tboimahOkay, I will inform scooper22:16
ledmer_make sure to show up22:16
tboimahThanks again man22:16
tboimahsure! I will22:16
ledmer_I know spencer has been missing some other 22:16
ledmer_meetings he had22:16
ledmer_also22:16
ledmer_what is a good way to contact you besides irc an email?22:16
ledmer_and *22:16
tboimahboimahthomas2005@gmail.com or thomas.boimah@jetrowebdevelopment.org or Telegram22:17
ledmer_okay22:17
tboimah+231888981897 22:18
tboimahthat is my telegram number22:18
ledmer_what are the hours you are active?22:18
tboimahby 6:00pm up ward22:18
tboimahI mean 6:00pm my time22:19
ledmer_until what time 22:19
tboimah10:00pm22:20
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tboimahOkay folks, Good night22:23
tboimahACTION signing out22:23
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gabriel_jetGreetings, everyone22:40
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gabriel_jetHi ledmer, can I have a quick conversation with you?23:40
jelknerhello gabriel_jet 23:49
jelknerWow, you are up late23:49
gabriel_jetNo jelkner i wasn't, I been here since 10pm my time and also was following the conversation.23:50
gabriel_jetI have a few concern:23:53
gabriel_jetledmer told me and mulbah to work on the bot, but23:53
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gabriel_jetMulbah said I should only focus on the improving the error messages 23:54
gabriel_jetthis is my concern - should I23:55
gabriel_jet1. Replace "Error: Invalid time format. Use HH:MM." to "Oops! That time format doesn’t look right. Please use HH:MM (e.g., 14:30 for 2:30 PM)."23:56
gabriel_jet2. Replace "No meeting found with ID '<meeting_id>'." to "Hmm, I couldn’t find a meeting with that ID. Please double-check and try again."23:57
jelknergabriel_jet, i need to leave now23:57
jelknerbut to answer your question23:57
jelkneri like the error messages23:57
jelknerthey work great for me23:57
jelknerbut some of the less experienced users in today's meeting23:57
jelknerhad more trouble23:57
jelknerso let's ask them23:58
jelknerwhat would be helpful23:58
jelknerledmer can talk to you23:58
gabriel_jetokay, i am waiting on him...23:58
gabriel_jethave a nice day, jelkner..23:58
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