IRC log of #novawebdev for Thursday, 2025-04-03

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mulbahHello Jeff13:10
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jelknerhey hey ubuntourist, so good to see you my OLD friend!15:13
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klarios__HI all!17:01
klarios__is anyone active?17:02
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klarioshi all!17:45
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thomasboimahGood day everyone18:40
jkollieGreetings everyone18:41
anthony_phello18:57
thomasboimahHow are you doing anthony_p 18:59
thomasboimah?18:59
thomasboimahanthony_p, did you see my mail?18:59
anthony_poverwhelmed, overworked18:59
anthony_phow are you doing?18:59
thomasboimahit was have the subject: Clarification on Expectations and Progress Update19:00
anthony_pi saw your email, but haven't gotten a chance to reply19:00
thomasboimah*having19:00
thomasboimahI will be greatful if you can reply me19:01
anthony_pi will19:01
thomasboimahOkay19:01
jelknerhello thomasboimah, anthony_p and jkollie 19:02
jelknerand ledmer 19:03
thomasboimahHello jelkner 19:03
anthony_phello jelkner19:03
jkolliehello jelkner19:03
jelkneranthony_p, looks like most folks will be virtual at the DNOVA Summit planning meeting this evening.19:03
anthony_pokay19:03
jelknerthomasboimah, while you're waiting for anthony_p to reply19:04
jelknerwe could talk about other things you could do19:04
jelkneri want to make sure that helping anthony_p is the top priority19:05
thomasboimahSure! anything for you jelkner 19:05
jelknerLOL19:05
jelknerwe need to get NOVA Web Development's many many virtual machines reduced19:05
jelkneri met this morning with Ved and ledmer 19:05
jelknerto talk about the need to do that19:06
jelknersince we are spending money every month for no benefit19:06
jelknerwe are wasting valuable, limited resources, in other words19:06
jelkneri don't know how to get you what you need to be able to help19:06
anthony_pi sent the email reply19:07
jelknernever mind, thomasboimah, if anthony_p has work for you19:07
jelknerthat should come first19:07
anthony_pno, not work19:07
anthony_pit's more questions and conversation19:07
jelknerok19:07
jelknerthen in that case, thomasboimah 19:07
jelknerlet's check with ledmer to see if you can help him19:08
jelkneronly if you have available time19:08
jelknermanaging time is going to be a very important professional skill19:08
anthony_pbut i may depending on things, but I have been far less responsive because of school stuff, so if you have things you would like him to do with Nova in general, go for it19:08
jelknerok, anthony_p, will do19:08
anthony_pbut my capstone class is a nightmare19:09
anthony_pit feels cobbled together19:09
jelknerand i'll talk with ledmer when he arrives so we have a clear understanding that thomasboimah will need to be pulled back on your project when you are ready for him19:09
jelkneri understand, anthony_p 19:09
jelkneryou need to graduate!19:09
thomasboimahGot it, jelkner! Let me know how I can assist or what steps we should take to get things moving. Happy to help in any way!"19:09
jelknerthanks, thomasboimah19:10
jelknerlet's wait for ledmer to weigh-in on that19:10
thomasboimahNO problem19:10
jelkneri'll talk to him when i see him19:10
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jelkner!add Discuss how to integrate thomasboimah into NOVA Web work19:16
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jelknerjkollie, 19:17
jelknerwhat's up?19:17
jkolliedo you have any info on anupama?19:18
jelkneri don't jkollie 19:18
jelknerso sorry19:18
jelknershe isn't here19:18
jelkneri don't know if she will show19:19
jelkneri hope so19:19
jelknerbut i don't know19:19
jkolliewe were suppose to pick a day together to start our meeting19:19
jelkneraha, jkollie, you should ask bluberry 19:19
jkollieHi bluberry19:19
jkollienice to see you19:20
bluberrynice to see you too jkollie!19:21
jkollieI have Inkscape editor and Image magick on my laptop now I install it recently19:22
klarios__a19:24
jkolliebluberry do you have any idea if  anupama will join us ?19:24
klarios__I am not sure jkollie 19:24
jkollieokay I'll just sent her an email19:25
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bluberryI don't know, I haven't seen her all day. An email would be a good idea19:25
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jkollieokay bluberry19:26
dcammueGood evening and Good afternoon to all19:27
jkolliegood evening dcammue19:28
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klarios__!add Import into CVS decidim 19:49
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jelknerthomasboimah, ledmer just arrived19:56
thomasboimahOkay19:56
jelknerhe'll be chatting with you any minute now19:56
jelknerwe want you to be integrated into all the work we do19:56
jelknerso you know our infrastructure and our customers19:56
thomasboimahOkay19:57
jelknerthomasboimah, we want to bring gabriel and mulbah in as soon as they are ready too19:57
jelkneri can only afford to pay one of you19:57
jelknerbut once you start generating revenue, the goal is to get all of you paid19:58
thomasboimahsure19:58
klarios__freena, 19:59
klarios__are you here19:59
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jelknerledmer, please dive right in20:02
freenayes20:02
jelknercould thomasboimah be put in charge of MSP?20:02
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jelknerthey have been waiting for email replies20:03
johan_f_any updates on the office process freena?20:03
jelknerwe need someone to stay on top of that until it is done20:03
freenaam here klarios20:03
jelknershe stepped out freena 20:03
jelknerto take her alergy medicine20:03
jelknershe'll brb20:04
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freenanot yet johan_f20:04
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freenaokay jelkner20:05
ledmerok so as jelkner wants you to be put in chrage of MSP20:05
ledmerthomasboimah 20:05
ledmerI will give you all the information you need for that  20:06
thomasboimahThanks20:07
thomasboimahI will be waiting on that20:07
gabriel_jetro!agenda20:09
WebsterssAgenda for meeting 'NovaWebDevelopment':20:09
Websterss4. Project management Initiative20:09
Websterss5. Update On Maryland Latino Caucus20:09
Websterss6. 138 dollar charge from linode20:09
Websterss7. Import into CVS decidim20:09
Websterss8. mail server backup/ Cut off20:09
Websterss9. Secosol updates on gitlab20:09
gabriel_jetroGreetings, jelkner and everyone20:10
klarios__!add MSP 20:10
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ledmerthomasboimah what email do you use 20:11
thomasboimahthomas.boimah@jetrowebdevelopment.org20:11
ledmerdid you get the email thomasboimah 20:12
thomasboimahyes20:12
thomasboimahACTION going to read ledmer mail20:13
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johan_f_yes freena?20:17
freenaCan we meet Monday same time??20:18
freenaKlarios you can join if possible too??20:18
freenaI want us to discuss about the project20:19
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johan_f_I'll be there on monday as usual20:20
klarios__!agenda20:20
WebsterssAgenda for meeting 'NovaWebDevelopment':20:20
Websterss4. Project management Initiative20:20
Websterss5. Update On Maryland Latino Caucus20:20
Websterss6. 138 dollar charge from linode20:20
Websterss7. Import into CVS decidim20:20
Websterss8. mail server backup/ Cut off20:20
Websterss9. Secosol updates on gitlab20:20
Websterss10. MSP20:20
freenaAlright 20:21
freenaklarios__: ??20:21
klarios__sorry freena I was gone for a bit20:21
klarios__we will chat after the meeting20:22
freenaOkay 20:22
thomasboimahledmer check your private chat20:24
klarios__Hi all. I will be chairing the meeting today 20:30
klarios__here's the agenda20:30
klarios__!agenda20:30
WebsterssAgenda for meeting 'NovaWebDevelopment':20:30
Websterss4. Project management Initiative20:30
Websterss5. Update On Maryland Latino Caucus20:30
Websterss6. 138 dollar charge from linode20:30
Websterss7. Import into CVS decidim20:30
Websterss8. mail server backup/ Cut off20:30
Websterss9. Secosol updates on gitlab20:30
Websterss10. MSP20:30
klarios__first item is integrating thomasboimah into nova web work20:31
klarios__last week thomasboimah said he could help with the secosol updates20:31
klarios__we also have items this week that he can definitely be of help with 20:31
ledmerI think we can make this one brief as I'm currently speaking with him about it 20:31
klarios__like the mail server back up/ cut off, secosol updates, and linodes20:31
klarios__yes thank you ledmer 20:32
klarios__By this day next week we should aim to see these items resolved with thomasboimah help20:32
klarios__great20:34
VedI can speak on point 6 and potentially points 5 and 1020:34
klarios__next item would be rescheduling in the meeting for VOCA20:34
klarios__yeah of course Ved 20:34
jelkneranthony_p or klarios__, that is the question?20:34
jelkneranthony_p, are you too busy for this?20:35
anthony_pi asked guillaume in my whatsapp chat with him if he wanted to reschedule20:35
klarios__anthony_p, we can try to reschedule but everyone from saturday should be present20:35
anthony_pthat was at 1430 on the day of the meeting20:35
anthony_phe hasn't responded since initially sending me a message that he couldn't join the call20:36
anthony_pso i have gotten no response about rescheduling, whoever scheduled with him initially may have better luck20:36
klarios__anthony_p, should someone else contact him?20:36
anthony_pwhoever originally scheduled probably20:37
klarios__yeah jelkner can help with that20:37
klarios__alright lets move on20:37
anthony_phe'll likely be more comfortable with whoever that was20:37
anthony_pokay20:37
klarios__Next item is an update on dockerizing decidim20:37
anthony_pim still working on figuring out how to properly dockerize an image to our specifications20:37
anthony_pi had made some progress, but my test bed died on me20:38
anthony_pi didn'20:38
anthony_pi didn't have anything vital on it, and i remember how i got to the point i did, but i have to rebuild the testbed to continue, which i'm working on now20:38
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anthony_pbut i have gotten docker to pull decidim images, i just need to learn to do so with more granular control20:39
anthony_pso that i can pick specific versions and have it automatically use a fed configuration file20:39
klarios__got it. So getting it back up wont be too dificult plus youve made some progress20:39
klarios__I was thinking we could add some of your progress on decidim development20:39
anthony_pbut it's also slowing down due to school stuff20:40
klarios__it might be a lot to do right now so I can always add these updates there20:40
jelknerleave anthony_p out of your calculations until he graduates20:40
anthony_pi'm not really doing anything in the decidim code at the moment20:40
klarios__no worries I understand. I will pretty much be offline for my exam week as well20:40
jelknerhe needs to get that done, and it is only 2 months away20:40
klarios__+1 I agree jelkner, i will add the updates in decidim 20:41
jelknerthen we'll have him (and his diploma ;-) much more available20:41
anthony_pi'll do what i can on that front, but i am quite flooded with work at the moment20:41
klarios__true true20:41
klarios__+1 anthony_p that's alright20:41
klarios__next item Project management Innitiative. Since the jetro web members and Nova web members are here I can say all i need20:42
klarios__johan_f_, and I are working on an accountability system for jetro web 20:42
klarios__project management using the accountability module and linking it to gitlab repositories20:43
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klarios__on that note we need jetro web members to have server access to both the secosol mayfirst and nova web20:44
johan_f_in the future we want to do implement the system in novaweb as well20:44
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klarios__the goal of this system is to provide costumers with reports and business managers with daily/ weekly updates20:44
klarios__We will be implementing this system as soon as the jetro web members get access to servers/ libreorganize20:45
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klarios__next item \20:45
klarios__!agenda20:46
WebsterssAgenda for meeting 'NovaWebDevelopment':20:46
Websterss4. Project management Initiative20:46
Websterss5. Update On Maryland Latino Caucus20:46
Websterss6. 138 dollar charge from linode20:46
Websterss7. Import into CVS decidim20:46
Websterss8. mail server backup/ Cut off20:46
Websterss9. Secosol updates on gitlab20:46
Websterss10. MSP20:46
klarios__the 138 $ charge from linode. are we charging our costumers for this?20:46
anthony_pis that total for us?20:47
anthony_pamong all vms?20:47
klarios__I was checking the bank statements and we dont have deposits from costumers20:47
klarios__anthony_p, I think its the costumers we host/and us20:47
klarios__https://cloud.linode.com/linodes20:48
anthony_pokay, so either we itemize or socialize, but i think most customers would expect itemization, figuring out how much each customer is using20:48
jelkneranthony_p, the link in the decidim isn't active20:48
klarios__a lot of it comes from decidim 20:48
jelknerand we are 10 minutes out20:48
klarios__yes20:48
jelknersince most folks are remote20:49
jelkneri wanted to start it here20:49
klarios__I agree anthony_p. We need to itemize them 20:49
ledmerVed, has more information on this20:49
klarios__you suggested something in the past anthony_p 20:49
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klarios__Ved, you said you wanted to talk on this item?20:49
VedWhich item are we on?20:49
klarios__620:49
anthony_pjelkner, give it a minute, server time there might not match your time, it's never failed to change for me when the time came20:49
jelknerah, ok20:49
anthony_pi'm showing :49 personally20:50
klarios__while we wait on that. johan_f_ is working on importing/Exporting CSV from decidim. Mostly about accountability module entries20:50
klarios__we will check on that Item next week20:51
VedOh I wanted to point out that we have been working on reducing the linode bill. It has gone from 159 to 138 and will be smaller this month because we removed linodes in the middle of last month so they accrued charges.20:51
johan_f_exporting seems to work20:51
johan_f_importing it back into seems to be an issue though20:51
johan_f_ill have more information next week hopefully20:51
klarios__yes I saw the charge went down a lot Ved, thank you for that work. Like tony said we should Itemize the servers and figure out our inhouse cost20:51
VedMost of the cost is coming from backups and our own linodes though, so there's only so much I can do. I think there's one or two more linodes that are not ours that we are actively working on removing. But the rest is up to us and our needs20:52
klarios__johan_f_, wow, that's something we want to fix20:52
VedThe business team has itemized the linodes and have the websites linked to the linodes and their costs in a spreadsheet20:52
klarios__ved thanks for the updates. Is that spreadsheet on nextcloud?20:53
johan_f_yes we should fix it20:53
VedNot at the moment20:53
klarios__johan_f_, If there is documentation on that feature we can research it, if not we can submit an issue20:53
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jelknereveryone, quick note, we won't be meeting at ACC for the next 2 weeks20:54
jelknerand i won't be at our meeting next thursday at all20:54
jelknersince I'll be on a plane to L.A.20:54
klarios__no worries. if you could Add it to the nova web nextcloud and I can add it to decidim server page that'd be great20:54
klarios__yes thank you jelkner 20:55
klarios__we will be online for 2 weeks20:55
klarios__I will not be here the 17th 20:55
klarios__lastly its MSP 20:56
klarios__ledmer, and thomasboimah are working on that right?20:56
ledmeryes 20:56
jelknerjamesoconnr, how are you doing?20:57
jelknerwe are moving forward with decidim20:57
klarios__oh yes jamesoconnr any updates with CPA?20:57
jelkneri know you expressed interest in that20:57
jelknerwe'll let you know when we find a grant or someone willing to pay for our time20:57
jamesoconnrThings are good with CPA, though I've had less time to work on it recently. Should be getting production ready soon20:58
klarios__great! ill bug you a bit with the decidim accountability but we will plan for that later on 20:59
jelkneri have another meeting20:59
klarios__thank you jamesoconnr 20:59
jelknersee y'all soon21:00
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klarios__there's nothing else from me. The meeting has ended 21:00
klarios__thank you all for coming!21:00
jamesoconnrThanks!21:00
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klarios__sorry21:00
klarios__who should chair next week21:00
klarios__>21:00
klarios__?21:00
johan_f_ledmer as the op I think you should chair21:01
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ledmersure no problem 21:01
klarios__thank you ledmer !!21:01
johan_f_i was joking 21:01
klarios__have a good day21:01
johan_f_but thank you ledmer21:01
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johan_f_gabriel_jetro can you check your DM's21:03
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johan_f_freena, kei isnt here currently but we can talk about the jetro office process right now21:42
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