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| klarios | greetings everyone! i see I am early | 19:45 |
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| jelkner | great to see you klarios | 19:46 |
| klarios | thank you! glad to be here | 19:47 |
| klarios | !agenda | 19:47 |
| Websterss | No active meeting. Use !startmeeting <ID> to set a meeting as active. | 19:47 |
| jelkner | i was scrambling to set up a laptop for sahnun | 19:47 |
| klarios | should we activate a meeting | 19:47 |
| jelkner | not sure we need to | 19:47 |
| klarios | ahh i see | 19:47 |
| jelkner | i'm in favor of learning to use that feature | 19:47 |
| jelkner | but we haven't been so far | 19:47 |
| klarios | true that, I know for me it was a bit confusing | 19:48 |
| klarios | I might need a refresher again | 19:48 |
| jelkner | me too ;-) | 19:48 |
| jelkner | let's see what happens when zOnny comes | 19:48 |
| jelkner | he was familiar with a lot of our old practices | 19:48 |
| jelkner | he can help us | 19:48 |
| klarios | yeah, he'll take a look at the bot and know exactly how it works | 19:48 |
| klarios | Im sitting just outside of ballston metro, it seems theres a demonstration happening, Im not sure what for though? | 19:49 |
| thomasboimah | Greeting klarios anthony_p sahnun and jelkner | 19:49 |
| jelkner | there we go, klarios, i was saying thomasboimah will know how it works too | 19:49 |
| klarios | greetings thomasboimah ! long time no see | 19:49 |
| jelkner | we can ask him for guidance | 19:49 |
| jelkner | anthony_p, are you here comrade? | 19:50 |
| klarios | +1 we're counting on you thomasboimah ! we definitely need a refresher on how this bot works | 19:50 |
| anthony_p | hello | 19:50 |
| klarios | hi tony! long time no see as well! | 19:50 |
| thomasboimah | !help | 19:50 |
| Websterss | Available commands: !add, !agenda, !createmeeting, !endmeeting, !help, !listmeetings, !remove, !startmeeting, !stopmeeting | 19:50 |
| thomasboimah | !listmeetings | 19:50 |
| Websterss | No meetings scheduled. | 19:50 |
| thomasboimah | Sure go ahead klarios | 19:51 |
| klarios | !createmeeting NWDbusinessplan | 19:51 |
| Websterss | Meeting 'NWDbusinessplan' created successfully for ET 2025-09-14 00:00. | 19:51 |
| klarios | !startmeeting NWDbusinessplan | 19:51 |
| Websterss | Meeting 'NWDbusinessplan' is now active. | 19:51 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION going to read the log | 19:51 |
| klarios | !listmeetings | 19:52 |
| Websterss | Scheduled meetings: | 19:52 |
| anthony_p | hey klarios, been a bit | 19:53 |
| sahnun | hi all :) | 19:54 |
| thomasboimah | klarios, you can now add the agenda by using the "!add command" | 19:54 |
| klarios | yep Im taking a look at the agenda | 19:55 |
| thomasboimah | !add 1. Discuss our Start Up Funds Capacity Building Plan | 19:55 |
| Websterss | Agenda item added to meeting 'NWDbusinessplan': 1. Discuss our Start Up Funds Capacity Building Plan | 19:55 |
| klarios | there you go! | 19:55 |
| klarios | nicee | 19:55 |
| thomasboimah | !add 2. Discuss the process of writing our business plan (note: we can begin | 19:55 |
| Websterss | Agenda item added to meeting 'NWDbusinessplan': 2. Discuss the process of writing our business plan (note: we can begin | 19:55 |
| thomasboimah | with what ManusAI gave us: | 19:55 |
| thomasboimah | https://codeberg.org/jelkner/SolidarityEconomyNotes/src/branch/main/NOVAWebDev/BusinessPlan.md | 19:55 |
| thomasboimah | !add 3. Help Shallon finish processing the first Invoice for the ToDo app | 19:56 |
| Websterss | Agenda item added to meeting 'NWDbusinessplan': 3. Help Shallon finish processing the first Invoice for the ToDo app | 19:56 |
| thomasboimah | and discuss how we will create a workflow for a. Doing work, b. | 19:56 |
| thomasboimah | Invoicing, c. Collecting, d. Paying workers. | 19:56 |
| thomasboimah | klarios, and jelkner i hope this is the agenda? | 19:56 |
| thomasboimah | I saw this in the mail jelkner send | 19:56 |
| thomasboimah | !agenda | 19:56 |
| Websterss | Agenda for meeting 'NWDbusinessplan': | 19:56 |
| jelkner | Wow, watching two young, smart tech folks taking charge of this is *so* exciting for an old foggy like me! | 19:57 |
| jelkner | i can't keep up | 19:57 |
| jelkner | but with any luck, i won't have to ;-) | 19:57 |
| anthony_p | So, I think that with how interconnected Jetro and Nova are, I feel it's important to modify and update the Nova business plan to take that into account, and Jetro should have their own business plan that takes Nova into account | 19:58 |
| anthony_p | I would suggest we discuss the second item first because I think it will help with making decisions on the first item | 19:59 |
| anthony_p | thoughts? | 19:59 |
| jelkner | i was about to type +1 to your first comment | 19:59 |
| klarios | I took a look at jelkner's +manis ai draft and it looks very structured, exactly what we need | 20:00 |
| klarios | we can add on from there | 20:00 |
| jelkner | what we need to decide on that is who and when | 20:01 |
| jelkner | anthony_p, i agree with you 100% | 20:01 |
| jelkner | so we should get a review group together to edit and tweak it | 20:01 |
| jelkner | and jetro can work with us to develop their plan too | 20:01 |
| jelkner | but, i think 1 and 3 are the most immediate needs | 20:01 |
| klarios | we should! | 20:02 |
| jelkner | since we need to figure out what we will be doing | 20:02 |
| jelkner | now | 20:02 |
| jelkner | and what our timeline is | 20:02 |
| sahnun | I have a concern about the business plan - using AI to generate it necessarily will lead us to have a plan that's more or less the same as any other web dev business who's also starting up and using AI. I think it's best we minimize the usage of it so that we don't end up implementing a plan that the avg web dev startup founder will be using as well. | 20:02 |
| anthony_p | so, if we are taking into account Jetro, we need to define that relationship in the business plan, and make sure that jetro is okay with how we define and plan to implement that | 20:02 |
| jelkner | +1 | 20:02 |
| jelkner | yes anthony_p i agree with you | 20:02 |
| klarios | yeah its a priority since we may not always be a constant source of work for jetro, we hope to of course, but there's got to be a plan for their survival | 20:04 |
| jelkner | zOnny should be here any second | 20:04 |
| klarios | ahh were waiting on him right | 20:04 |
| jelkner | we scheduled the meeting for this time so he could join us | 20:04 |
| jelkner | he just got back from work | 20:04 |
| anthony_p | as for the proposal on funding capacity building, i think that will strongly rely on where the funds come from, and how the funders wish to see those funds spent. The funding being provided by SJC is of course strongly influenced by members of SJC | 20:05 |
| sahnun | I'll read the whole thing and critque it but I'm wary. It may be the expedient way to do it but I just fear using it without it at least being vetted by someone with experience with business plans. AI is still probabialistic autocomplete. | 20:05 |
| klarios | +1 no worries, I will stay for as long as needed | 20:05 |
| jelkner | make it better for us, comrade sahnun | 20:06 |
| klarios | true sahnun but I still think there are elements that are useful to our survival in there | 20:06 |
| jelkner | start with it, and tells us where it is lacking | 20:06 |
| klarios | it provides us the strucure we dont have yet | 20:06 |
| jelkner | but be concrete please | 20:06 |
| jelkner | i'm thinking a few people who want to do that should go through it section by section and line by line and make changes where they think it needs changing | 20:07 |
| jelkner | that's the power of the tool | 20:07 |
| klarios | but I do agree it lacks the niche you mentioned to me last time. To some extent having jetro's help is our "niche", in terms of our product, do we have a niche? | 20:07 |
| klarios | 1+ shall we put it on nextcloud jelkner ? last time i saw, it was on codeberg? | 20:08 |
| klarios | hey zOnny ! | 20:08 |
| jelkner | welcome zOnny! | 20:08 |
| zOnny | Hello World! | 20:08 |
| klarios | welcome! | 20:08 |
| sahnun | Ok - I'll get more concrete about my concerns and critique what we have. I really just don't want us to miss out on a better plan that would separate us from non-solidarity economy competiton that's also starting up | 20:08 |
| sahnun | Welcome! | 20:08 |
| klarios | +1 I think that we are here to express our wants and our needs as a cooperative. Everything goes as long as we stick to our 3 values | 20:09 |
| jelkner | +1 | 20:09 |
| sahnun | +1 | 20:09 |
| zOnny | +1 | 20:09 |
| klarios | !agenda | 20:10 |
| Websterss | Agenda for meeting 'NWDbusinessplan': | 20:10 |
| anthony_p | My main critique is that the capacity building plan reads more like a plan on how to use funds rather than how to build them, which is not a bad thing to discuss, i just don't see anything in the plan that mentions how to build capacity, only use capacity | 20:11 |
| klarios | so, getting to the concrete talk. We've got to discuss the allocation of funds into capacity building and how to ensure these funds don't just run out on us | 20:11 |
| jelkner | ahh, good point anthony_p | 20:11 |
| jelkner | the capacity part is in my head | 20:11 |
| jelkner | just not in the document yet ;-) | 20:11 |
| anthony_p | what is the list of our sources for potentially gaining funding? | 20:12 |
| jelkner | so good criticism | 20:12 |
| jelkner | i'm a little less concerned with making that list now anthony_p | 20:12 |
| jelkner | since i think what is blocking us is our lack of capacity | 20:13 |
| klarios | theres no real way to start this conversation | 20:13 |
| klarios | but looking insde is a good start | 20:13 |
| klarios | +1 jelkner | 20:13 |
| jelkner | i was just on a 1 hour meeting before this with one of the NOVASEN members | 20:13 |
| jelkner | we where talking about Decidim | 20:13 |
| jelkner | we need to answer a *crucial* question | 20:13 |
| jelkner | Can Decidim be an effective online tool for movement building? | 20:14 |
| jelkner | i don't know the answer to that question | 20:14 |
| jelkner | i'm proposing we spend $15K finding out | 20:14 |
| jelkner | if the answer is "yes" | 20:14 |
| klarios | it certainly can be if done correctly | 20:14 |
| jelkner | then the moevement is growing | 20:14 |
| jelkner | and will continue to grow under current circumstances | 20:15 |
| anthony_p | decidim is a tool, and is only as effective as a tool as the people using it can make it | 20:15 |
| anthony_p | movements are people | 20:15 |
| jelkner | yes anthony_p, i know that | 20:15 |
| jelkner | but that isn't my question | 20:15 |
| jelkner | like i said, i was just in an hour long converstaion about this | 20:15 |
| jelkner | is decdim more effective than Google docs? | 20:16 |
| jelkner | given the same people | 20:16 |
| jelkner | anthony_p, klarios and i are in a group of pretty dedicated people | 20:16 |
| anthony_p | of course, but, i don't think that simply committing 15k to a tool is an effective strategy for testing it | 20:16 |
| sahnun | I'd say look at the use cases from spain - any movement building ones? | 20:16 |
| jelkner | but they are saying they found our first go round with the tech hard to use | 20:16 |
| jelkner | and they didn't see how it helped them do what they wanted to do | 20:16 |
| sahnun | or really from anywhere - past use cases... | 20:17 |
| klarios | I think we werent ready to use it with them :( sadly | 20:17 |
| klarios | both from an organizing and cooperative perspective | 20:17 |
| jelkner | anthony_p, sahnun in novasen and vasen we have committed people willing to work with us | 20:17 |
| anthony_p | i think we should look at working with our partner in Octree, and see if we can get a minimal implementation from them for NOVASEN that we will maintain, to really test the relationship and model | 20:17 |
| jelkner | yes anthony_p | 20:18 |
| jelkner | i am depending on octree | 20:18 |
| klarios | I think that in order to truly understand how this tool can help us, we have to be aware of all the perspective and the spaces in which they operate | 20:18 |
| anthony_p | +1 klarios | 20:18 |
| sahnun | +1 | 20:18 |
| klarios | as organizers, as developers, as laborers, as people who have never used tech | 20:18 |
| anthony_p | we need a requirements list from NOVASEN to determine what the decidim instance needs to provide for them to replace other tools | 20:19 |
| klarios | that's a lot of time testing from success and error | 20:19 |
| klarios | I think we should tackle that when we've discussed our organizational needs | 20:20 |
| klarios | like "what does it mean to organize for Nova vasen" | 20:20 |
| klarios | for now, lets focus on building a strategy to build with what we have and make it last | 20:21 |
| jelkner | klarios, a big +1 on this | 20:21 |
| jelkner | anthony_p, most of our customers are not going to know how to give us a "requirements document" | 20:21 |
| jelkner | our job is going to be to listen to them | 20:21 |
| jelkner | and tell them we know how to help them use this tool to meet their needs as organizersa | 20:22 |
| jelkner | organizers | 20:22 |
| jelkner | we need to be effective consultants | 20:22 |
| jelkner | movement "experts" | 20:22 |
| jelkner | with our movement tool | 20:22 |
| anthony_p | most customers don't know how to give a requirements document, that is something generally collected through the service provider through business meetings | 20:22 |
| jelkner | for this first go round | 20:22 |
| jelkner | our customer is novasen | 20:23 |
| anthony_p | so part of our capacity needs to be a capability for identifying those requirements | 20:23 |
| jelkner | klarios, sahnun and jelkner are all active with the group | 20:23 |
| jelkner | so we can very effectively communicate "customer needs" | 20:23 |
| jelkner | another thing to note anthony_p | 20:24 |
| jelkner | matt slatts emailed me back that the richmond deployment is moving ahead, but that he is even more excited about the vasen one | 20:24 |
| klarios | I can start making a small list of what im starting to see. | 20:24 |
| anthony_p | sounds good | 20:24 |
| jelkner | excellent! | 20:25 |
| klarios | 1. Effective costumer communication/relationship (building relationships of trust to better understand perspective and need) | 20:25 |
| jelkner | let me just say what i'd like to see from NOVA Web | 20:25 |
| jelkner | we need a contract | 20:25 |
| jelkner | and it doesn't have to have a long list of deliverables | 20:26 |
| jelkner | but i'd like to see it written in 3 stages | 20:26 |
| jelkner | 1/3 ($5K) on start | 20:26 |
| jelkner | deliverables include deploying a branded novasen website using the platform | 20:26 |
| jelkner | 2/3 (next $5K) maybe 3 months into the process | 20:27 |
| jelkner | deliverables include data showing active use of the platform by novasen members who share their work and make proposals | 20:27 |
| jelkner | 3/3 (last $5K) about 6 months in | 20:28 |
| jelkner | deliverables include a survey of the users getting their feedback on their experience using Decidim as organizers | 20:29 |
| jelkner | and *HOPEFULLY* confirming that it is indeed an empowering tool for our movement | 20:29 |
| jelkner | thoughts? | 20:29 |
| klarios | this is your costumer hat jelkner ?;p | 20:29 |
| jelkner | yup | 20:30 |
| jelkner | from the SJC point of view | 20:30 |
| klarios | its a good concrete goal we can tackle. We would need Novasen's perspective on all of these processes of cours | 20:31 |
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| klarios | in terms of development we have Octrees help but not indefinitely | 20:32 |
| anthony_p | I think that's a decent outline. will certainly need significantly more details, like the format that the data needs to be provided in, probably a full report, possibly some sort of page attached to the site that shows usage statistics | 20:32 |
| klarios | building our capacity also means building a plan so that developers of decidim can do what octree does with us. | 20:32 |
| klarios | +1 | 20:33 |
| jelkner | and we need to include Guillaume in every stage | 20:33 |
| jelkner | ok, klarios we should start as soon as possible | 20:34 |
| klarios | +1 messaged sam about that. We have a bill from guillaume for the NOVASEN instance already | 20:34 |
| klarios | we can bring that up next meeting | 20:34 |
| jelkner | so the clock is ticking | 20:35 |
| jelkner | we don't have time to waste | 20:35 |
| jelkner | we are paying for an instance now that we aren't using | 20:35 |
| jelkner | so the sooner we start using it, the better | 20:35 |
| klarios | yep true that | 20:35 |
| klarios | i would even say we dont need it now | 20:35 |
| jelkner | ok, the money is here now | 20:35 |
| jelkner | so let's go! | 20:35 |
| klarios | but the data in it is essential | 20:36 |
| klarios | especially the blogs! | 20:36 |
| jelkner | can we talk about the 2nd 1/2 of this, now that zOnny is back? | 20:36 |
| klarios | sure | 20:36 |
| jelkner | zOnny, i'm thinking that for now we will be hiring you part time as a consultant | 20:36 |
| jelkner | to work mainly with thomasboimah | 20:37 |
| klarios | concretely. I will say that I will build the organizing profile for novasen anthony_p, this is the list you were talking about, I want to consult charles on this as well | 20:37 |
| jelkner | i listed the specific websites to work on in the document | 20:37 |
| klarios | jelkner: plus infrastructure needs please | 20:37 |
| jelkner | but along the way, we will be developing our processes and workflow | 20:37 |
| jelkner | totally, klarios | 20:38 |
| jelkner | it means reducing our costs | 20:38 |
| jelkner | consolidating our servers | 20:38 |
| jelkner | developing our bookkeeping skills *fast* so we can keep books | 20:38 |
| jelkner | we'll have taxes to file soon | 20:39 |
| jelkner | zOnny, you finish school in 9 weeks, yes? | 20:39 |
| klarios | we do! its crucial | 20:39 |
| zOnny | 8 weeks from now | 20:40 |
| jelkner | perfect | 20:40 |
| jelkner | so i'm thinking the real launch for this project will be in 8 weeks | 20:40 |
| klarios | yay! congrants! time goes by quick | 20:40 |
| jelkner | since we need you with us to make this all work | 20:40 |
| klarios | what part of the project jelkner ? | 20:40 |
| jelkner | making websites! | 20:41 |
| klarios | since we need the decidim instance asap | 20:41 |
| anthony_p | congrats zOnny | 20:41 |
| klarios | +1 agree | 20:41 |
| jelkner | no, klarios that is your 1/2 of the plan | 20:41 |
| klarios | sahnun: this is where your experience comes in as well | 20:41 |
| jelkner | i'm talking about the Django website dev part | 20:41 |
| jelkner | +1 | 20:41 |
| klarios | in terms of a niche, in terms of expanding or further developing our product | 20:41 |
| sahnun | +1 | 20:42 |
| klarios | that includes a designer | 20:42 |
| jelkner | we have several websites that need updating | 20:42 |
| klarios | :( | 20:42 |
| jelkner | zOnny make beautiful sites | 20:42 |
| jelkner | he can help with that | 20:42 |
| jelkner | right zOnny? | 20:42 |
| klarios | true that ! the load may too big on him though, I think a designer can be another one of our niches | 20:43 |
| zOnny | sure | 20:43 |
| jelkner | klarios, we need designers | 20:43 |
| klarios | we do | 20:43 |
| jelkner | but we have to work with what we have now | 20:43 |
| jelkner | since $15K is not much funding | 20:43 |
| jelkner | so we can't hire a designer other than ourselves | 20:44 |
| jelkner | zOnny and sahnun both know how to make good looking websites | 20:44 |
| jelkner | so we have what we need to start | 20:44 |
| jelkner | we can | 20:44 |
| jelkner | we can't do custom logos yet | 20:44 |
| klarios | also I paused the orders of the business cards | 20:45 |
| klarios | mostly because I wanted to get to this moment | 20:45 |
| jelkner | yes indeed | 20:45 |
| klarios | right now its me, tony, and jelkner | 20:46 |
| anthony_p | I think that we should potentially work on sending custom logo requests to people we've worked with in the past, reference to people we know | 20:46 |
| jelkner | it's time to launch, klarios | 20:46 |
| jelkner | i think we need to start with our own site | 20:46 |
| klarios | would sahnun & zOnny be interested in having your own cards? | 20:46 |
| jelkner | we don't even have a good list of "members" or "customers" | 20:46 |
| jelkner | it is outdated and needs to be fixed | 20:46 |
| klarios | +1 | 20:47 |
| sahnun | Yes, I meet people in AA here and there who ask me for help. | 20:47 |
| anthony_p | i think we need to define different levels of involvement | 20:47 |
| klarios | thats time consuming but we do have to make an "investment" to the coop | 20:47 |
| anthony_p | before we can update that accurately | 20:47 |
| jelkner | +1 | 20:47 |
| klarios | normally its in the form of money but sometimes in the form of time | 20:47 |
| jelkner | we have that in our operating agreement | 20:47 |
| jelkner | klarios, anthony_p next Spring the 3 of us should have that discussion | 20:48 |
| jelkner | for changes we need to make next May 1st | 20:48 |
| anthony_p | we need to maintain an addendum to the operating agreement listing who is who, and what role they fill probably | 20:48 |
| jelkner | not so sure we need that anthony_p | 20:48 |
| anthony_p | why not? | 20:48 |
| jelkner | from a legal point of view, NOVA Web has only two worker / owners klarios and anthony_p | 20:48 |
| jelkner | for now | 20:48 |
| jelkner | anyone else is a consultant | 20:49 |
| anthony_p | or an intern | 20:49 |
| jelkner | true | 20:49 |
| anthony_p | that's something defined in the operating agreement | 20:49 |
| anthony_p | we need to have a list of interns | 20:49 |
| jelkner | i think we need to tighten up who is on our page as being "us" | 20:49 |
| anthony_p | so we have that documentd | 20:49 |
| jelkner | here is my proposed list: | 20:49 |
| anthony_p | i think interns would count as "us" though, just not member owners | 20:49 |
| jelkner | klarios, anthony_p, sahnun, jelkner, thomasboimah, shallon, zOnny | 20:50 |
| jelkner | that is the "us" we will launching with | 20:50 |
| jelkner | thoughts? | 20:50 |
| sahnun | +1 | 20:50 |
| klarios | +1 | 20:50 |
| jelkner | let's not put interns on the "About Us" page | 20:51 |
| jelkner | we can have a separate page for them | 20:51 |
| jelkner | since they come and go so often | 20:51 |
| klarios | Agreed! | 20:51 |
| anthony_p | okay | 20:51 |
| jelkner | we need to professionalize in this 4th reboot! ;-) | 20:51 |
| klarios | I think we should include a "pathway to ownership" in a tech coop like ours | 20:52 |
| jelkner | we have that, klarios | 20:52 |
| anthony_p | that's part of the operating agreement | 20:52 |
| klarios | its in our operating agreement but not our front page | 20:52 |
| jelkner | ah, you mean website | 20:52 |
| klarios | +1 | 20:52 |
| klarios | yep | 20:52 |
| jelkner | and now the question is one of timeline | 20:53 |
| anthony_p | i don't think it needs to be part of the website really, i think just making the operating agreement transparent and allowing people to see it is good for that | 20:53 |
| jelkner | can we start updating our own site now, or do we need to wait 8 weeks for zOnny? | 20:53 |
| klarios | that too! I just think people should be aware of what it means to be in a cooperative, like a warning and not at the same time lol | 20:54 |
| anthony_p | do you want to use the SJC funding to pay Django developers to do that now? seems like a good way to handle that | 20:54 |
| jelkner | anthony_p, that fact that we are committed to a pathway to worker ownership is a big part of our "brand" as a legit movement co-op | 20:54 |
| jelkner | it should be on our website | 20:54 |
| jelkner | part of our story | 20:54 |
| anthony_p | yes, via downloading the operating agreement | 20:54 |
| klarios | theres much more to being an owner than just working | 20:54 |
| jelkner | okie dokie | 20:54 |
| klarios | it is what we want to transmit | 20:54 |
| anthony_p | we should mention that there is a pathway, pointing to the operating agreement | 20:54 |
| jelkner | anthony_p, i do want to pay the Django develpers to do that first | 20:55 |
| anthony_p | transparency is a part of our brand too | 20:55 |
| jelkner | but unless sahnun can take charge of that | 20:55 |
| jelkner | we need to wait for zOnny | 20:55 |
| klarios | nah, I mean being a cooperativists. I think we should be clear of the type of people we want in our team | 20:55 |
| jelkner | since no one at Jetro quite has the design chops yet to do that on their own | 20:55 |
| jelkner | zOnny could be a huge help | 20:56 |
| sahnun | I don't have a personal laptop and need to ramp up on Django, unless the changes are minimal like content updates, simple rearranging. | 20:56 |
| jelkner | since they will need to work with our gitlab repo | 20:56 |
| anthony_p | alright | 20:56 |
| jelkner | make changes to the NOvA Web branch, etc | 20:56 |
| klarios | we can include pathway to ownership and transparency, but people should be aware of the solidarity economy, that their role is resistance | 20:56 |
| klarios | +1 | 20:56 |
| sahnun | So, I'd have to borrow someone laptop to even do that, probably a few weeks until Ican be productive. | 20:56 |
| jelkner | they don't know how to do that | 20:56 |
| klarios | Ive made some changes but have figured how to publish them live | 20:56 |
| klarios | I've changed the contact info, some bio's etc | 20:57 |
| jelkner | yup | 20:58 |
| jelkner | all that needs to be update | 20:58 |
| jelkner | sahnun is here telling me he can reach out to his dear friend louie for help getting started | 20:58 |
| jelkner | while we wait for zOnny to graduate! | 20:58 |
| klarios | sahnun: ooo no good, I have an extra computer, its pretty slow but it can do the minimum | 20:59 |
| klarios | its on debian! | 20:59 |
| klarios | kde | 20:59 |
| jelkner | i have a nice little laptop with linux mint on it i can lend him | 20:59 |
| jelkner | a student of mine donated it recently when he graduated | 20:59 |
| jelkner | i'll send it to Liberia with me next Summer | 20:59 |
| jelkner | but he can use it now | 21:00 |
| jelkner | so we've been here an hour | 21:00 |
| anthony_p | we have | 21:01 |
| jelkner | long meetings are generally not productivbe | 21:01 |
| anthony_p | !help | 21:01 |
| Websterss | Available commands: !add, !agenda, !createmeeting, !endmeeting, !help, !listmeetings, !remove, !startmeeting, !stopmeeting | 21:01 |
| jelkner | productive | 21:01 |
| sahnun | Alright friends, I've got to roll out. Will pick up the laptop from Jeff on Wednesday | 21:01 |
| jelkner | what else do we need to discuss before we ajourn? | 21:01 |
| anthony_p | !agenda | 21:01 |
| Websterss | Agenda for meeting 'NWDbusinessplan': | 21:01 |
| klarios | we are meeting on thursday right jelkner ? | 21:01 |
| jelkner | +1 | 21:01 |
| klarios | anthony_p: | 21:01 |
| klarios | good | 21:01 |
| klarios | +1 | 21:01 |
| anthony_p | is there anythign we need to do for shallon, or did she need to be here? | 21:02 |
| jelkner | let's start having weekly meetings on Thursdays at 3:15 right? | 21:02 |
| zOnny | I can join as well | 21:02 |
| jelkner | great zOnny | 21:02 |
| jelkner | right here, 3:15 pm EST 19:15 UTC | 21:02 |
| zOnny | I would like to get familiar with the dev team | 21:02 |
| jelkner | super | 21:02 |
| zOnny | since not everyone is in the U.S. yes? | 21:02 |
| klarios | +1 till then, see you all! thank you | 21:02 |
| jelkner | right | 21:03 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, is in Liberia | 21:03 |
| thomasboimah | +1 | 21:03 |
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| thomasboimah | I'm also looking forward to work with you zOnny | 21:03 |
| zOnny | great | 21:03 |
| zOnny | this is a good start | 21:03 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, you can ask zOnny any UoPeople questions too | 21:03 |
| thomasboimah | I have hear a lot about you form jelkner | 21:03 |
| jelkner | since he is about to finish his degree | 21:04 |
| thomasboimah | *from* | 21:04 |
| anthony_p | !stopmeeting | 21:04 |
| Websterss | Meeting 'NWDbusinessplan' is no longer active. | 21:04 |
| jelkner | sweet | 21:04 |
| jelkner | cya on Thursday! | 21:04 |
| jelkner | thanks! | 21:04 |
| anthony_p | see you thursday | 21:04 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, see you tomorrow at 11 UTC | 21:04 |
| thomasboimah | Okay! | 21:04 |
| jelkner | bye | 21:04 |
| zOnny | see u | 21:04 |
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| thomasboimah | Bye everyone | 21:05 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION leaving | 21:05 |
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