IRC log of #novawebdev for Thursday, 2025-09-18

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Klariosdoes this work?18:59
jelknerIt sure does!18:59
Klariosyay! thanks I’m joining on a android irc client18:59
jelknerKlarios, our meeting doesn't start for 15 minutes18:59
Klariosthat’s alright I wanted to test it19:00
Klariossee if it worked19:00
jelkneri was hoping to talk with you about NOVASEN before this meeting19:00
jelknerthat's why i called19:00
Klariosooohh sorry we’re in a car ride to a coop meeting with dilcia and leslie19:00
jelknernp19:00
jelknerwe can talk later19:00
Klarioswe should be there in 2 hours so we can call then19:00
Klariosno worries19:01
Klarios+119:01
KlariosI took a look at the emails as well19:01
jelkneranthony_p, are you here?19:01
jelknerwe can keep this meeting today short19:01
jelknerbut we need to wait for 3:15 pm19:01
Klariosjelkner Zonny said he’d join right?19:02
jelknersince Thomas and Shallon will join19:02
jelknerhopefully zOnny too19:02
jelknerbut i forgot to include him in the reminder cc19:02
Klariosahhh good +1 i saw their progress on the todo app19:02
Klariosmade an account already!19:02
jelknernice!19:02
Klariosexcited to get or give tasks laugh out loud19:02
jelknerMulbah and Thomas also setup #sjcompute channel here19:03
Klariosyep! we could use some color but that’s for later :)19:03
jelknerand set up the bot19:03
jelknerin 1 day!19:03
jelknerthat's progress!!!!19:03
anthony_pi'm here19:03
Klariosoo cool! that’s great progress !! things are moving forward jelkner19:03
jelkner+119:03
KlariosI hope they’re having fun while at it of course19:03
KlariosHey tony!19:03
jelkneri think they are19:03
Klariosthat’s amazing!19:04
jelknermeeting with Devesh and company yesterday was really good19:04
jelknerwe agreed a crash study in bookkeeping was our top priority19:04
jelknerDevesh is really into what we are doing19:05
Klariosthat being said jelkner, for all our accounts we should figure out logistics19:05
jelkneri showed them the PODER Emma video yesterday19:05
Klarioslike who has access to what etc etc19:05
jelkner+119:05
jelknerhe really liked it19:05
Klariosoohh that’s great! plant the seed :p19:05
jelknerwell, SECOSOL is a seedbed after all19:06
jelknerso i need to19:06
Klariosthe more i am around the coops, the more we need book-keeping19:06
jelkner+119:06
jelknerHello svaye!19:06
KlariosHi svaye!19:06
Klarioslong time no see19:06
svayeHi jelkner and Klarios 19:07
jelknerand don't forget anthony_p 19:07
Klariossvaye were you able to contact james?19:07
svayeKlarios, how have you been?19:07
jelknerKlarios, we need to just send him a check19:07
KlariosI’ve been well and busy, how about you svaye?19:07
jelkneri need an address for him19:07
anthony_phello svaye19:07
Klarios+1 we’ve got his account on the bank19:07
jelknerbut i can send it to his parent's home in Arlington19:07
jelkneroh19:07
Klariosno worries19:07
jelknerthen let's do that19:08
Klariosjust send me his invoice and i’ll send it to him19:08
svayejelkner, I shared his address on tuesday I thought you saw it19:08
KlariosI will still confirm the account with him though19:08
jelkneri can just mail a check Klarios 19:09
jelknerif that is easier19:09
Klarios+1 i assume he’s in school and won’t get that but let’s find out today19:09
jelknerhow do we find out?19:10
KlariosI can give him a call or text him19:10
jelknerhe has been challenging to reach19:10
jelknerplease do19:10
Klariosahh he has19:10
Klarios+1 got it19:11
svayejelkner, do I check my task as completed once the money is payed?19:11
jelkner+1 svaye 19:11
Klariosjelkner it seems he might’ve changed his phone number19:11
jelknerah19:12
Klariosi’m getting a failed set19:12
Klariossent*19:12
jelknerthat could explain it19:12
Klariosor maybe it’s me19:12
KlariosI’ve got his personal email address somewhere19:12
jelknerlet's just mail a check to his parents house19:12
Klarios+119:13
jelknerthanksgiving is coming soon19:13
jelknerhe'll get it then19:13
Klariosthat’s right19:13
jelknerand our job is done19:13
Klarios👍19:13
jelkneri'll take care of that19:13
KlariosThank you jelkner!19:13
Klarioswe can check it off now19:13
jelkner+119:13
jelknerok, i have a 4 pm (20:00 UTC) phone call scheduled19:14
jelknerso let's start out meeting now19:14
Klariosthat should be our target19:14
Klarioswe’re waiting on thomas?19:14
jelknerwe're going to be meeting here each week at this time19:14
Klarioszonny?19:14
Klarios+1 works great with me19:15
jelknerThomas said he would be here19:15
jelknerbut i can update him tomorrow19:15
svayelet me give him a call19:15
jelknerand he can read the log19:15
jelknerthanks svaye 19:15
Klarios+119:15
jelkneri'll call zOnny19:15
jelknerzOnny didn't pick up19:16
jelknerwe'll update him later19:16
jelknerwe shouldn't count on him for 8 more weeks19:16
Klarios+119:16
jelknerhe's taking 3 classes, that's an overload19:16
jelknerand he works full time19:16
Klariosyeah Agreed19:16
jelknerok here's what i have19:17
svayeThomas will be with us shortly19:17
KlariosLet’s begin, we just had an agenda Item right19:17
jelknerok, we can wait a minute19:17
anthony_plets list our agenda items while waiting19:17
jelknerlol19:17
Klariosthere you go19:17
jelknerhere's zOnny 19:17
zOnnyHi everyone!, I'm still at work but I can read the logs19:17
jelkner+1 zOnny 19:18
KlariosHi zOnny!19:18
Klarios+[19:18
jelknerthat will work19:18
anthony_phi zOnny19:18
svayehi zOnny 19:18
jelknerlet me start, thomas can read the logs too19:18
jelknertomorrow SJC will have a balance of over $20K19:19
jelknerso to get this train rolling down the tracks, it seems we need to things:19:19
anthony_phi thomasboimah19:19
thomasboimahGood afternoon19:19
svayeHi thomasboimah 19:19
thomasboimahHI anthony_p 19:20
jelkner1. A contract between NOVA Web and SJC for $15K over 6 months to develop Decidim support services using NOVASEN and VASEN as our first deployment19:20
KlariosIn terms of what we should do. We should officially get the NOVASEN instance this week. I am hoping to get guidance from guillaume on how to approach the organizing side of it, especially since we have eager members in the solidarity group. It’s Up to NWD to come up with an initial amount and the bi19:20
Klariosllable items/work to be done (phase 1 5k). That should happen this week and next week19:20
jelkneryes, Klarios!19:21
jelknerGuillaume is crucial to this!19:21
jelkneri'm just saying that as soon as you and Guillaume are ready19:21
jelknerSJC will be ready19:21
Klarioshe said he could get the instance in 1 day which is great!19:21
anthony_pso we need a meeting with guillaume19:21
jelkneron the Django Dev side19:22
Klarios+119:22
Klariosit can be short19:22
jelknerwe need a business plan from Jetro19:22
jelknerthat aligns with NOVA Web's19:22
Klarioswe need the billable items for development for the Novasen instance19:22
Klariosanthony_p19:22
jelknershort is good19:23
Klariosi assume they will be similar to the items for the Next systems but instead it will be 1 assembly + 1 process19:23
jelknerbut i want just enough check points to keep us on track19:23
anthony_pwe can probably look to what we have for nextsystem as an outline, though we would have sjc as the customer19:23
Klariossounds like a plan19:23
Klarioswhat day can you meet anthony_p?19:23
jelknerthat's why i proposed "deliverables" in 3 stages19:23
jelknerfor novasen and vasen, sjc will be the customer anthony_p 19:24
jelknerthat's the plan19:24
jelknera grant from sjc to fund decidim in the U.S.19:24
Klarios+119:24
jelknerusing novasen and vasen to do that19:24
anthony_pklarios i can meet most any day, but next friday because of a medical procedure19:25
anthony_pjelkner we're doing the novasen first, separate from vasen right?19:25
jelkner+119:25
jelknerwe agreed that would be easier, since vasen already has a website19:25
jelknerand novasen does not19:25
Klariosluckily for us we already have more than enough “organizing” material to populate an empty instance19:25
jelknerso it's less disruptive to start with novasen19:25
jelknervasen can then see what we do for novasen19:26
jelknerand we can use that to inform the 2nd deployment19:26
KlariosI want to take the opportunity of the presentations to give everyone an overview/ tutorial of how to use it19:26
jelkneris that right Klarios?19:26
jelknerKlarios, training is a core part of the grant19:26
anthony_pcreating the contract for that can probably be done via email like we did with nextsystem19:26
jelknerthat's what i mean by "deliverables"19:27
Klarios+1 I liked the other way around, but we have so much to do with Nova vasen that I think they can both benefit regardless of when they’re done19:27
Klariosbut in terms of priority, it should NOVA VASEN19:27
jelknersvaye, how can we help you get a business plan together with Jetro?19:27
Klarios+1 anthony_p sounds good, I’ll start a threat today then19:27
KlariosTHread lol19:28
jelknerfor NOVA Web, i started with a rough draft that an AI gave me19:28
jelknerwe will now go through it together19:28
jelknerand work it into what we want19:28
svayejelkner, I think Jetro can just follow the business plan you made 19:28
jelknergreat idea svaye 19:28
jelknerand you can watch our process as we edit it19:28
Klariosjetro is ambitious hehe19:28
Klarioswe will grow together19:29
jelkner+119:29
svaye+119:29
anthony_pwe need to have a meeting about that business plan together for nova, go through it line by line, and discuss each line item and how it needs to change or be updated. Jetro probably can do the same thing with their team to decide what's right for them19:29
jelkneryes, anthony_p 19:29
jelknerwe should do that on Jitsi19:29
thomasboimah+119:29
Klarios+1 I agree, I think all who have a role should participate19:29
jelknerthey can do it in person19:29
anthony_pyep19:29
Klarioseveryone has something to provide19:30
Klariosa skill or time to donate to the coop19:30
jelknerKlarios, anthony_p are you available this Saturday?19:30
anthony_pfor nova, let's put something on the calendar, we need a time that we can sit down for a while, saturday is fine19:30
Klariosyep 👍19:30
jelknerwhat time?19:30
Klariossaturday is fine, the morning even better19:30
jelkneryes, how about 10 am?19:30
Klariossounds like a plan! jitsy?19:31
jelkner+119:31
jelkneri'll add it to our calendar19:31
Klariosgreat thank you jelkner!19:31
jelknerand send an email19:31
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jelkneranything else?19:31
jelkneri only have one brief announcement19:31
svayejelkner, are we included in the Saturday meeting?19:32
Klariosalright so concretely, by thursday next week we will have the contract for SJC, how does that sound anthony_p?19:32
anthony_pjelkner Klarios I'm clearing the time i have available on saturday with my wife19:32
Klarios+119:32
jelknersvaye, it will be too challenging to get jitsi to work19:32
jelkneruntil you have your office19:32
anthony_pi will have a large block of time, because she's studying for law school, but she wanted a hike too19:32
jelknerso it will just be the 3 of us19:32
Klariossvaye it’s worked a couple of times for us for spanish19:32
svayeyes Klarios it has19:32
jelkneryes, but for now, let's just make it the 3 of us19:33
jelknersvaye, you and thomasboimah can look at the change logs in the git repo19:33
jelknerto see what we do19:33
Klarioswe will get you the revised copy and you should add comments19:33
anthony_pso, i'll be available from 9AM for a few hours at least on saturday19:33
jelknerlet's make it 9 am then19:33
anthony_pso 10 should be fine19:33
Klarios+119:33
jelknerKlarios, is that good?19:33
Klarios10 or 9?19:33
jelknerearlier the better for me19:33
svayejelkner, gitlab right?19:33
Klarios9 is good19:34
jelkneri'll put it on gitlab19:34
jelknerin our repo19:34
thomasboimahHI zOnny 19:34
jelkneri'll make a separate repo for it19:34
jelknerok, i've just agreed to do several things19:34
jelknerlet me go so i can get working on them!19:34
jelkneri scheduled a meeting with CPA for 10/119:35
jelkneri will be talking with them about meeting with their members to see what IT services we might be able to provide them19:35
jelkneri cc'd y'all on the email19:35
jelkneranything else?19:35
KlariosI don’t think so for now. I guess i’m only worried about Ben, he hasn’t followed up19:36
KlariosI think we should have a talk about who’s really paying for the instance and who is taking part in it19:37
jelkneri have a call with Sara at 419:37
jelkneri'll ask her about that19:37
Klarioshow do we tackle this? i get it’s ben’s project but with the convergence, not anymore?19:37
jelkneri'll ask Sara19:38
Klarios+1 thank you!19:38
jelknerok, let me get to work19:38
Klariosthank you all!19:38
anthony_pi put the saturday meeting in nextcloud19:38
jelknersvaye and thomasboimah see you tomorrow morning19:38
Klarios+119:38
jelknergreat19:38
thomasboimahOkay19:38
jelknerthanks!19:38
svayeokay19:38
KlariosGood day comrades !!19:38
jelkneranthony_p, nextcloud?19:38
jelkneryou too!19:38
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jelknerin a document19:38
jelknerit would be great if it was on a calendar19:38
jelkneri live by the calendar19:39
anthony_pyes19:39
jelkneranthony_p, do you have access to the NOVA Web calendar?19:39
jelkneri don't see a meeting19:39
anthony_pin the nexcloud calendar19:39
anthony_pyes, that's where it is19:39
jelknerhmmm...19:40
anthony_pNWD Shared Calendar on nextcloud19:40
jelknercan you help me add it?19:40
jelknerif i click + Calendar19:40
jelknerwhat's it called?19:40
anthony_pi'm not sure where you're trying to add somethign from? i don't know what application your using19:41
jelknerahh19:41
jelknerNextcloud19:41
anthony_pif you already have an application synched with it, you should just resynch19:41
jelknerI login to MayFirst19:41
jelknerKei and I were using it together19:41
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jelknerbut i guess you are on a different calendar19:42
jelknerthe one I'm using is called "NOVA Web"19:42
anthony_pyeah, i get updates from a calendar all the time, that lists the weekly planning meeting, virrtual meeting with sarah soon, the sjc board meetings19:42
anthony_pi put it on that calendar19:42
jelknerthat's the one19:42
anthony_pyeah, i added to that one already19:42
jelknerlet me look again19:42
anthony_pand when i synchronized my thunderbird, it updated my local calendar to add it19:43
jelknerlol19:43
jelknerit's there19:43
jelknerthanks!19:43
anthony_pno problem19:43
jelkneri'19:43
jelkneri'll move the business plan to our gitlab19:44
jelknerand change the link19:44
jelknersince that's where it really belongs19:44
jelknerok thanks!19:44
jelknersee you Saturday!19:44
anthony_psee you saturday19:44
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