IRC log of #novawebdev for Sunday, 2025-12-21

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thomasboimahYesterday I work with zOnny, Today I will continue with that. No blocker.12:00
thomasboimahACTION done12:00
zOnnyYesterday, Thomas and I made great progress in working on the Secosol website with PostgreSQL. Today, we're excited to transition to Novawebdev. No Blockers.12:00
zOnnyACTION done12:00
zOnnyGood morning thomas12:00
thomasboimahGood morning zOnny 12:00
zOnnyIt seems you fixed the issues we were running yesterday12:01
thomasboimahyes12:01
zOnnyDid you find out what it was?12:02
thomasboimahyes, the static file, Allow host and some CSRF problem12:02
zOnnyDo you feel you have learned something new?12:04
thomasboimahyes12:04
zOnnyyou are becoming to be a full stack developer12:05
thomasboimahAll thanks to you, Chris and Jeff for the knowlegee12:06
zOnnyDo you use telegraph?12:07
zOnnyI meant telegram12:07
zOnnyor discord?12:08
thomasboimahI use to but my phone got missing so i need to get my account back12:08
zOnnyHave you used discord before?12:08
thomasboimahI can create new account12:08
thomasboimahno12:08
thomasboimahBut i have use telegram12:08
zOnnyI think telegram is becoming more popular worldwide12:09
thomasboimahyep12:09
zOnnyI just want to find a way we can check each other during the week, so we don't wait until the weekend12:10
zOnnyprobably email will works just fine12:11
thomasboimahsure, i check my email after every one hour12:11
zOnnyCool sounds good12:11
zOnnyalright12:12
zOnnyWe are we with Novawebdev12:12
zOnnyIs this website being host in mayfirst12:12
thomasboimahDid you know the changes Jeff want on Nova web site12:12
thomasboimah?12:12
thomasboimahlet me check by using the dig command12:13
zOnnyHe just want it to look more presentable12:13
zOnnyit is our marketing person12:13
zOnny*he*12:13
zOnnyAs far I see, Novawedev is using the old LO as well12:14
zOnnywe need to update it with the new master12:14
zOnnylittle things that will help boost out website12:15
zOnnyI also noticed everything is hard-coded12:15
zOnnyBoxes are working there 12:15
zOnnyThat's all12:16
thomasboimahokay12:16
zOnnywe need to make sure we have full control of it as well12:16
zOnnyHave you see a website with a cool design?12:17
zOnnyWe will worry about design later12:17
thomasboimahI have see so website. but I'm not the good with design12:17
thomasboimahmy design taste 12:18
zOnnythat means you are more back end 12:20
thomasboimahsomething let tha12:20
thomasboimahthat12:20
thomasboimah*like*12:20
zOnnyWhere is Novawebdev?12:21
zOnnyI meant being hosted12:22
thomasboimahMayfirst12:22
zOnnyDo we have access to it?12:22
zOnnylet me try12:22
thomasboimahzOnny, i think the website is hosted on Linode12:30
thomasboimahmayfirst is just doing the DNS Hosting 12:30
zOnny?12:31
zOnnyDo we want it that way?12:31
thomasboimahHmm i really don't know but may Jeff dose12:32
zOnnyWe probably want to ask it to him first?12:33
zOnnyor Kei?12:33
thomasboimahyes12:33
zOnnyIt will probably be better to move it into mayfirst12:34
thomasboimah+112:34
zOnnyAren't we using namecheap anymore?12:34
zOnnyfor the DNS?12:34
thomasboimahNO12:35
thomasboimahI don't think namecheap is involve 12:35
thomasboimahfor the nova web dns but mayfirst dose12:35
zOnnySo what should be the goal for our clients12:35
zOnnyget them a linode server and have the DNS with mayfirs?12:36
thomasboimahIf you ask me since mayfirst is the one providing the dns we can also move the site there12:36
zOnnyI don't see the why not to move novawebdev to mayfirst12:37
thomasboimahYep! I think that is what Jeff will want also12:37
zOnnyWe are paying for two services that offer the same functionality12:38
thomasboimahyes12:38
zOnnyWe probably like to spend money?12:38
thomasboimahAnd that is bad12:38
thomasboimahBut zOnny i think that why we need to fix it you and I12:39
thomasboimah*is*12:39
thomasboimahSo that the coop can't just be loosing money like that12:39
zOnnyI see12:40
zOnnyWe also need to be aware of the trade off12:40
zOnnyAs far I know linode is a good service12:40
zOnnywe have full control of it12:40
thomasboimahThat's nie12:41
thomasboimahnice12:41
zOnnywe can host as many libreorganize websites we want in one server12:41
thomasboimahgood12:41
zOnnythat is why we used to have PRT0112:41
thomasboimahthen we can move all of our site there12:42
thomasboimahwe can talk to Jeff about this12:42
zOnnybut not sure what mayfirst can offer12:42
zOnnysince we are together with the movement12:43
thomasboimahI just they also do that12:43
zOnnyI want to know how much we are paying to mayfirst12:43
thomasboimahguess12:43
zOnnymonthy, annualy, etc12:43
zOnnyand for how much of space12:43
thomasboimahmay is $200 or $250 a year12:43
thomasboimah*mayfirst*12:44
zOnnyfor Membership disk quota: 232gb?12:44
thomasboimah+112:45
thomasboimahMayFirst don't charge per space12:46
thomasboimahAll you have to do is to just pay your membership fees every year12:47
zOnnyIt isn't a bad deal12:47
zOnnyhowever, there are certain limitations to it12:47
thomasboimahand mayfirst can do the same as linode like this: we can host as many libreorganize websites we want in one server12:48
zOnnyWell, we can use it then12:48
thomasboimahWe just need to investigate it more. But i think it is a good choice12:49
zOnnyok12:49
thomasboimahand once you pay your membership fees they also give you access to emails, nextcloud, jist and etc12:50
thomasboimahSo zOnny can you talk to Jeff about this?12:51
zOnnyright12:51
zOnnyyou right12:51
zOnnyit is a whole bundle12:52
zOnnyBefore we move on into novawebdev 12:55
zOnnySecosol registration12:56
zOnnywe need to enable email confirmation?12:56
zOnnyor the password reset, yes?12:56
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thomasboimahSorry my connection get drop13:06
thomasboimahmy internet get expire13:06
thomasboimahzOnny, are you still here13:06
zOnnyyes13:06
zOnnyIt's ok 13:07
zOnnyShould we move it to mayfirst today?13:07
zOnnyor shuld we wait for a confirmation?13:07
thomasboimahlet move it13:08
zOnnyI don't think they will be back after the holdays13:08
thomasboimahI think that is what Jeff will want also13:08
zOnnyok13:08
zOnnyyou want to do it?13:08
thomasboimahBut zOnny can you have a word with Jeff, So the we can stick to one hosting provider that way the coop will not be wasting money13:09
thomasboimah*that*13:09
zOnnysure we can have a discussion about it once he is back13:10
thomasboimahalright13:10
zOnnyIt definitely help us out with cutting off our expenses13:10
thomasboimahyes13:11
zOnnyis there a way to add it into the irc boot as a topic?13:12
thomasboimahyes13:14
thomasboimahwith this command /TOPIC #channelname topic13:14
zOnnyWill do it after next weekend13:14
thomasboimahokay13:15
zOnnyI think he will be back after the next weekend13:15
zOnnyDo you have any questions about moving the novawebdev into mayfirst13:16
zOnnyit seems straightforward to me13:16
zOnnyyou just clone the LO into the mayfirst13:16
thomasboimahI will no for now13:16
thomasboimah*say*13:17
thomasboimahyes13:17
zOnnyI don't think they have any accounts there neither13:17
thomasboimahaccount??13:17
zOnnythe actual novawebdev website13:18
thomasboimahI am now sshing the server for novaweb mayfirst13:18
zOnnycool13:18
zOnnyI will be here 13:18
thomasboimahdon't you have access to the server?13:18
zOnnyto the mayfirst novwebdev?13:19
zOnnyYes I do13:19
thomasboimahso you do it or i should?13:19
zOnnyI noticed there is the To-Do app running there13:19
thomasboimah*doing*13:19
zOnnyIs the To-Do app being used?13:20
thomasboimahtodo??13:21
zOnnyAre we in the same server?13:21
thomasboimahI am not seeing todo?13:21
thomasboimahwhich server you i13:21
zOnnyI logged in to novawebdev@shell.mayfirst.org13:21
thomasboimahsite315444writer@weborigin013:~/include$ 13:22
zOnnyyes13:22
zOnnywe have the To-Do app in the include and other files13:23
thomasboimahsite315444writer@weborigin013:~/include$ ls13:23
thomasboimahcopied-user-home-directories  php5  the-blog13:23
thomasboimahsite315444writer@weborigin013:~/include$ 13:23
zOnnyI meant the the-blog13:23
thomasboimahnow i got you13:24
zOnnysorry, my brain isn't caffeinated yet13:24
thomasboimahI think that is Jeff blog13:26
thomasboimahI'm not too sure13:27
zOnnyWe should leave it as it is 13:28
zOnnywe can ask later about it13:28
zOnnyor investigate13:28
zOnnyIs there a reason why our project needs to be in the /include?13:29
zOnnyjust curious13:29
thomasboimahnice question.13:30
thomasboimahBut i really don't think it is a most13:32
thomasboimahfrom my point of view13:32
zOnnyIt seems it is13:32
zOnnyThe ~/include path is outside the web root, so your source, config, and venv aren’t directly web-accessible.13:33
zOnnyThis separation reduces the risk of someone downloading your code/settings and keeps the web root clean for static assets.13:34
zOnnyThat is what I found 13:34
thomasboimahOkay13:34
thomasboimahwhat about the web?13:35
thomasboimahwhat you find on it13:35
zOnnythe /web only expose what must be public13:39
thomasboimahgot you13:39
zOnnylike the static etc13:39
zOnnyThomas, quick question13:55
thomasboimahokay13:57
thomasboimahyou are doing the cloning of the site to the server right?13:57
zOnnycan you click into the gitlab13:58
zOnnyhttps://gitlab.com/groups/novawebdevelopment/libreorganize/-/settings/repository13:58
zOnnyDoes this page loads for you?13:59
thomasboimahno I'm getting 40413:59
zOnnyWell, We cannot deploy keys then14:00
zOnnyI will clone it with http14:00
zOnnyalright, it is there14:07
zOnnyDo you know how to create the postgreSQL DB in mayfirst14:08
thomasboimahNot really just start know about that yesterday, when you tell me that you change the secosol db14:10
zOnnyYou can set it up14:10
zOnnyit is very straightforward to do it14:10
zOnnyYou just go to CP14:11
zOnnyand click on PostgreSQL database and user14:12
zOnnyand you create it, that's all14:12
zOnnyit seems that Jeff's webblog is running in MySQL14:13
zOnnyDo you want to do it?14:15
thomasboimahyes14:15
thomasboimahI am on it14:15
zOnnycool14:15
zOnnykeep in mind that the DB user and DB name are the same 14:16
zOnnyIt doesn't give you the option to put a name14:16
thomasboimahdone14:19
zOnnywhich theme is the novawebdev using14:20
thomasboimahthe same one secosol using14:21
zOnnyDo you have it in your local running?14:21
thomasboimahyes, THE site just clone to the server i am seeing theme their which one is that?14:22
thomasboimah*YOu*14:22
zOnnyjust the theme gitlab14:23
zOnnyit is a fresh LO14:23
zOnnyusing master14:23
thomasboimahbut it have this branchs: remotes/origin/novawebdevelopment14:23
thomasboimah  remotes/origin/novawebdevelopment_refactor14:23
zOnnythat is the branch name of the theme 14:24
zOnnythat is Novawebdev theme design14:24
zOnnyWell the theme seems to be broken with the new master LO 14:33
zOnnyDid you noticed it?14:33
zOnny*notice*14:33
thomasboimahwhat is broken?14:34
zOnnynvm14:37
zOnnyI forgot to commend out the settings14:38
zOnnynot sure why they put all the info there14:38
zOnnyI meant the theme settings14:38
zOnnyalright14:39
zOnnyAlright I did push the theme14:44
zOnnymake it sure you pull it14:44
zOnnyI saw you changed into the theme settings14:45
zOnnyDo it in the LO14:45
zOnnyThe theme seetings is an extra override to the LO14:46
zOnnyLets keep consistency with the other projects 14:46
zOnnyotherwise we have to do it with secosol the same way14:46
zOnnyDoes that make sense?14:47
thomasboimah+114:47
thomasboimahshould i pull it to the server or you will do that14:47
zOnnyI will14:48
zOnnydone14:48
thomasboimahokay14:48
zOnnyAlso we need to fix the LO seetings14:49
zOnnysince it doesn't work with os.getenv()14:49
zOnnybut we can do it later14:49
zOnnyJelkner? 14:49
thomasboimahsure14:49
jelknerHello thomasboimah and zOnny!14:49
jelknerlol, why the ? zOnny?14:50
thomasboimahHello jelkner 14:50
jelknerwho else could i be?14:50
jelknerhello from Texas14:50
zOnnyI thought you were in Mexico14:50
jelknernot yet14:50
jelkneron the way there though14:50
jelkneri have an SJC board meeting in 10 minutes14:50
jelknerso i'm here now14:50
zOnnyah14:50
jelknerwe're in the Dallas area14:51
jelknertomorrow night San Antonio14:51
jelknerthen Saltillo, Mexico the day after that ;-)14:51
zOnnyAre you driving down there?14:51
jelknerYp14:51
jelkneryup14:51
zOnnyNo way!14:51
jelkneryes way!!14:51
zOnnyThat is a looooooooong drive14:51
jelknerRoxana and i love it14:52
jelknerwe did it last year14:52
jelknerwe drove 5,000 miles in 2 weeks14:52
jelknerand we're doing it again now14:52
zOnnyAfter driving to Chicago for 12hrs I didn't feel my but :)14:53
jelknerour little pries c rocks14:53
jelknerwe get great milage14:53
jelkner60 miles per gallon14:53
jelknerso it's way cheaper than flying14:53
zOnnyI'm impressed14:53
jelknerand much more fun14:53
jelknerplus for me this trip is all about visiting friends14:53
zOnnyIs your network working just fine?14:54
jelkneryes indeed14:54
jelknerok, i got get ready for my board meeting14:54
zOnnyOr do you have starklink attached to the car?14:54
jelknergreat to see you14:54
jelknerlol14:54
jelkneri'm in a hotel room14:54
zOnnyah14:54
zOnnyalright14:54
zOnnyI will let you go then14:54
jelknertalk soo14:54
jelknersoon14:54
jelknerwe have *a lot* to discuss as 2026 starts14:55
zOnnywe will be here14:55
jelknergrants, work opportunities14:55
jelknerprojects14:55
zOnnyYes, we do14:55
jelknermuch to do14:55
jelknerfun, fun, fun!!!14:55
zOnnyHappy holidays14:55
jelkneryou too, my dear friend14:55
zOnnySee you next year14:56
zOnnyalright thomas14:56
zOnnyare you here?14:56
thomasboimahyes14:57
zOnnyCan you update the core/settings14:57
zOnnythe same way you did the theme/settings?14:57
zOnnyI did delete those line14:58
thomasboimahokay14:58
jelknerthomasboimah, zOnny, i'm off by an hour14:58
jelknerit's only 10 am EST14:58
jelkneri thought it was 11 am14:58
zOnnyDoes time doesn't change yet?14:58
zOnnyIn where you are14:59
jelknerzOnny, thomasboimah, do you have a minute to help me test my settings?14:59
zOnnysure14:59
thomasboimahsure14:59
jelknercan you try to join me on jitsi14:59
jelknerhttps://meet.mayfirst.org/SJCmeeting14:59
zOnnyfor sure14:59
jelknermeeting is started already15:00
jelknerso you should just be able to join15:00
thomasboimahI can here you15:02
zOnnyalright, thomas15:38
thomasboimahyep15:38
zOnnyI think we are in the same page wit hJeff15:38
thomasboimahyes15:38
zOnnymoving the Novawebdev to mayfirst15:38
zOnnyDid you updated the seetings?15:40
thomasboimahI'm on it15:40
zOnnycool15:40
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zOnnythomas is your connection working?15:59
tboimahyes15:59
zOnnyawesome15:59
tboimahzOnny, is the core/setting for secosol is different from novawebdeve16:00
tboimahcore/setting.py16:00
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zOnnyyes16:03
zOnnynot 16:03
zOnnyit isn't different16:03
zOnnyThe only difference is the DB the server number and the ALLOWED_HOSTS16:04
zOnnythomas you have any questions?16:12
thomasboimahno16:13
zOnnydid you update the DB?16:15
thomasboimahyes16:16
zOnnyalright16:17
zOnnyDo you remember how to set it up with apache?16:26
thomasboimahyes16:26
zOnnyDo you want to do it16:27
zOnnyor walk me through16:27
thomasboimahanyone you want16:28
zOnnyI can try16:28
thomasboimahokay16:29
thomasboimahwe firstly need to set up our scheduled job through the cp16:30
zOnnyok16:31
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thomasboimahApache is set up for nova web go to web configuration and at the button click on advance setting and see16:36
thomasboimahI meant on the cp16:36
zOnnyright16:37
zOnnyI wonder why it is running in the same port16:37
zOnnyas secosol?16:37
thomasboimahOnly the scheduled job need fix16:37
thomasboimahyes but different id16:40
zOnnydone16:44
thomasboimahcool16:45
zOnnythat's all?16:47
thomasboimah+116:47
thomasboimahwait you 16:47
thomasboimahfix the scheduled job16:47
thomasboimah?16:48
zOnnyI did add the gunicorn schedulel job16:48
thomasboimahgreate16:48
thomasboimah*great!16:48
zOnnyHow about A/AAA record?16:49
zOnnyor CNAME?16:49
thomasboimahlet me check the dns16:49
thomasboimahWe don't need some of the a record that is pointing to linode, but for the irclog.novawebdevelopment.org that is point to linode i will make it point to mayfirst16:51
zOnnyok16:52
thomasboimahzOnny, we are only taking nova site from on the NWD server right? because business tracker and other are the on the NWD server the nova web site is on.16:57
thomasboimahzOnny, we are only taking nova site from on the NWD server right? because business tracker and other are on the NWD server that nova web site is on.16:57
thomasboimahOr do you plan move business tracker and the others to mayfirst too?16:57
thomasboimah*moving*16:58
zOnnygood question16:59
thomasboimahYep i need to know before deleting record17:00
zOnnyLet's wait it17:00
zOnnyI need to know if we are still using Business Tracker17:00
zOnnyI don't have credentials to it17:01
zOnnydo you?17:01
thomasboimahOkay for now i am going to delete the one the relation to the site and leave Business tracker and the other as it is17:01
thomasboimah*that* is*17:01
thomasboimahrelating*17:01
zOnnyWhich other websites are pointing to the DNS?17:02
thomasboimahOur log https://irclogs.novawebdevelopment.org/ and this chat17:02
thomasboimahOur bot17:02
thomasboimahI meant the one we are chatting on right now17:03
zOnnyI see17:05
zOnnythose are good one17:05
thomasboimahyes17:05
thomasboimahSo i will just get rid of the one that have to do with the site17:06
zOnnyFor now let's focus on novawebdev17:06
thomasboimahand leave the other for now until we conclude on moving it too17:06
zOnnysounds good to me17:06
zOnnyafter that we need to focus on design17:07
zOnnyimproving the novawebdev design17:07
zOnnyupdate the members17:07
zOnnynot sure if novawebdev has members17:07
zOnnyalso the projects17:08
zOnnylittle things, step by step17:08
thomasboimahnovawebdev have member you are a member of novawebdeve17:08
thomasboimah;-)17:08
thomasboimahKei is17:08
thomasboimahTony is17:09
thomasboimahI am also a member of both nova and Jetro17:09
zOnnyah17:13
zOnnygood to know17:13
thomasboimahnow the changes i just make on the dns it can take time to take effect17:16
thomasboimahso the site will be down for sometime17:17
zOnnyok17:17
zOnnyI was seeing the website17:17
zOnnyDo you live in Monrovia?17:17
zOnnyor Jetro is based in Monrovia?17:17
thomasboimahyes17:17
thomasboimahare you seeing the site17:18
thomasboimahI meant the novawebdevelopment.coop17:18
zOnnyyup17:19
zOnnyIt looks similar to my country17:20
zOnnyNow I have a better idea where Liberia is located in the map17:21
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zOnnyThomas are you here?17:24
thomasboimahyes17:24
zOnnyI think after that we need to focus on design with novawebdev17:24
thomasboimahyes17:25
zOnnyalso I would like you to look into email notification17:25
zOnnyWhen you reset your password17:25
zOnnyor create an account17:25
zOnnyI think that feature needs to work in Secosol17:26
zOnnysince it is very common to forget passwrod17:26
zOnnythey should not wait for us to change it17:26
thomasboimahAlright17:26
zOnnyfor that porpuse17:26
zOnnywe need a default do-not-reply@secosol.us email17:27
zOnnyAn sender that sends that email17:27
zOnnyHave you done that with django before?17:28
thomasboimahyes I did to on my ToDo this few time17:28
zOnnyDoes it work?17:28
thomasboimahI am planning to push it17:28
thomasboimahof course17:28
zOnnywhat email are you using?17:28
thomasboimahI am using Jetro email17:29
zOnnycan you create do-not-reply@secosol.us?17:30
thomasboimahYes i can do that on right on secosol mayfirst account17:31
zOnnyyes17:31
zOnnySince mayfirst is their email provider, yes?17:32
thomasboimahI will work on that during the weekend, I mean the forget password17:32
thomasboimahNO the weedend but during the week17:32
thomasboimah*not*17:32
thomasboimahWhat am i saying17:32
thomasboimahI will work on the forget password during the week17:32
zOnnyEverything is setup with the LO17:33
zOnnyhttps://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/libreorganize/libreorganize/-/blob/master/libreorganize/core/settings.py?ref_type=heads#L9717:33
zOnnywe just need an account there17:33
thomasboimahsure17:33
zOnnyalright thomas17:34
thomasboimahOkay zOnny17:34
thomasboimahyou will work on nova web design17:34
thomasboimahduring the week?17:35
zOnnyalso feel free to delete content that isn't necessary in the novwebdev17:35
zOnnyI will try to find a good design first17:35
zOnnyOverall the design doesn't look bad17:35
thomasboimahOkay designer ;-)17:35
thomasboimahyes17:35
zOnnybut having a new design is always inspiring17:36
zOnnyit is like a fresh start17:36
thomasboimahokay i will be looking out for your design17:36
thomasboimahI need to start learning how to do better design too17:36
zOnnyI will be online the 24th, 26th as well17:37
zOnnyMy only working Monday and Tuesday next week17:38
zOnny*I'm*17:38
thomasboimahokay17:38
zOnnyI'm more towards having a very simple design17:38
zOnnyI like simplicity17:38
thomasboimahme too17:39
zOnnyIt is better to have a website with simple design but robust backend17:39
zOnnybut sometimes users look for dynamic websites17:40
zOnnythere is nothing wrong with it17:40
zOnnySee you next weekend17:41
zOnnyBye for now17:42
thomasboimahokay17:42
zOnnyACTION signing off for the day17:43
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