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| thomasboimah | Hi zOnny | 11:59 |
| thomasboimah | Did you see my email? | 12:00 |
| zOnny | Good morning thomasboimah | 12:00 |
| thomasboimah | zOnny, did you see the email i sent you ? | 12:01 |
| zOnny | I was just reading it | 12:02 |
| zOnny | It sounds good to me thomasboimah | 12:02 |
| thomasboimah | Thanks you very much | 12:02 |
| thomasboimah | I am glad to hear | 12:02 |
| thomasboimah | So we start with that time next right? | 12:02 |
| thomasboimah | *week* | 12:03 |
| thomasboimah | btw I was able to migrate business Tracker to MayFirst | 12:04 |
| zOnny | sure, we can start with that time from today if you want to | 12:04 |
| thomasboimah | For the bot i am still looking in to that | 12:05 |
| zOnny | good to know that | 12:05 |
| thomasboimah | zOnny, Jeff also want to migrate sjcompute website to mayfirst since they have membership with them | 12:05 |
| thomasboimah | *us* | 12:06 |
| zOnny | ah | 12:06 |
| thomasboimah | Once I fine a way to get the bot running on MayFirst i will take the NWD server down | 12:07 |
| zOnny | they have membership? | 12:07 |
| thomasboimah | Yes | 12:07 |
| zOnny | got it | 12:07 |
| thomasboimah | currently there site is running on github: https://github.com/sjcompute/sjcompute.github.io | 12:08 |
| thomasboimah | He also want us to integrate the Website camping website in to in | 12:09 |
| thomasboimah | *it* | 12:09 |
| zOnny | sjcompute is running in Linode at the moment? | 12:10 |
| thomasboimah | https://codeberg.org/tboimah/sjc-laptop-campaign-website-draft | 12:10 |
| thomasboimah | No | 12:10 |
| thomasboimah | sjcompute is a static file for now running on github | 12:10 |
| zOnny | ah | 12:10 |
| thomasboimah | it is an Html, css and Javascript | 12:10 |
| zOnny | it is using github pages then | 12:11 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 12:11 |
| zOnny | do you have the link to the website? | 12:11 |
| thomasboimah | So Jeff want us to move it to MayFirst and integrate this to it: https://codeberg.org/tboimah/sjc-laptop-campaign-website-draft | 12:12 |
| zOnny | I see | 12:12 |
| thomasboimah | Maybe we can add a button to the navbar the will point to the laptop campaign website once complete | 12:12 |
| thomasboimah | *that* | 12:13 |
| zOnny | is there a reason to have to repos for this purpose? | 12:13 |
| zOnny | *two* | 12:13 |
| thomasboimah | No the Laptop campaign website is a different project that sjcompute is about to that | 12:14 |
| thomasboimah | sjcompute want to be shaping old window laptop Liberia | 12:15 |
| zOnny | nice | 12:15 |
| thomasboimah | So they are creating a website that donor can be able to donate their old laptop | 12:15 |
| zOnny | I really would like that to happen | 12:15 |
| zOnny | Yes, I have a laptop that Jeff gave me when I was in High School | 12:16 |
| zOnny | I'm not using it neither | 12:16 |
| thomasboimah | But when donor donate their old window laptop that are going to run linux os on it and shape it to Liberia | 12:16 |
| thomasboimah | *they* | 12:16 |
| zOnny | excellent! | 12:17 |
| zOnny | ok let me clear my understanding here | 12:17 |
| thomasboimah | So I am working on the website with Bennet | 12:17 |
| thomasboimah | one of Jeff student | 12:17 |
| zOnny | so the campaign is another codeberg page? | 12:18 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 12:18 |
| zOnny | why they don't want the campaign be in the same repo? | 12:18 |
| zOnny | Isn't just a campaign? | 12:19 |
| thomasboimah | Yeah we are going to integrate it to the sjcompute before moving it to mayfirst | 12:19 |
| thomasboimah | so it is going to be one | 12:20 |
| thomasboimah | eventually | 12:20 |
| zOnny | organization is very important thomasboimah | 12:21 |
| zOnny | we need to get it done as early as possible | 12:21 |
| zOnny | so other developers do not clone different repos | 12:21 |
| zOnny | but I understand it, if you want to do it later | 12:22 |
| thomasboimah | sure | 12:22 |
| zOnny | do you know the link to their github page? | 12:23 |
| thomasboimah | https://github.com/sjcompute/sjcompute.github.io | 12:24 |
| zOnny | that is the repo | 12:25 |
| thomasboimah | https://github.com/sjcompute | 12:25 |
| zOnny | I don't think they have a github pages | 12:27 |
| zOnny | yet | 12:27 |
| zOnny | isn't this the same? https://sjcompute.org/ | 12:27 |
| zOnny | where is this project running? | 12:27 |
| thomasboimah | Wait which project you are talking about the campagin or the sjcompute website | 12:28 |
| thomasboimah | ? | 12:28 |
| zOnny | the sjcompute websote | 12:29 |
| zOnny | *website* | 12:29 |
| zOnny | where is it? | 12:29 |
| zOnny | who is hosting it? | 12:29 |
| zOnny | I saw it in Novawebdev clients and partners | 12:30 |
| zOnny | probably isn't the same project | 12:30 |
| zOnny | Since the names are very simliar | 12:31 |
| thomasboimah | it is a github page on Mayfirst | 12:31 |
| thomasboimah | sjcompute is a non profit organization that was founded by Jeff and some of his student | 12:32 |
| thomasboimah | yes it is novawebdev partners | 12:32 |
| thomasboimah | it is sjcompute that is giving the start up fund for novawebdev and jetrowebdev right now | 12:33 |
| thomasboimah | But i think Jeff will be the best person to explain this to you more | 12:34 |
| zOnny | I see | 12:36 |
| zOnny | I need to investigate furhter | 12:36 |
| thomasboimah | Yes Jeff can explain to you better | 12:36 |
| zOnny | Do you have access to the mayfirst server of sjcompute? | 12:36 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 12:37 |
| thomasboimah | i share that we you before right? | 12:37 |
| zOnny | yes | 12:37 |
| thomasboimah | *with* | 12:37 |
| zOnny | but the password isn't working | 12:37 |
| zOnny | I mean from the shell | 12:37 |
| zOnny | I logged in in the panel | 12:38 |
| thomasboimah | let me add you ssh key. how that sound? | 12:38 |
| zOnny | it should be sjcompute@shell.mayfirst.org | 12:38 |
| thomasboimah | *your* | 12:38 |
| zOnny | ok | 12:38 |
| thomasboimah | Ahh now i see | 12:38 |
| thomasboimah | It sjcompute username dose not have server access yet let me fix that | 12:39 |
| zOnny | ok | 12:40 |
| thomasboimah | so before having access to mayfirst server for any membership the web configuration need to be set up and active | 12:42 |
| thomasboimah | so the question is are we ready to migrate the sjcompute website now to mayfirst | 12:44 |
| thomasboimah | ? | 12:44 |
| thomasboimah | so that we can set up web configuration to get the server access | 12:45 |
| zOnny | Did you say they have membership? | 12:45 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 12:45 |
| zOnny | I don't see the why not? | 12:45 |
| zOnny | I want to investigate further how is the project working | 12:46 |
| zOnny | I'm a little bit confused for now | 12:46 |
| thomasboimah | The project is not yes on mayfirst | 12:46 |
| thomasboimah | *yet mayfirst | 12:46 |
| zOnny | I see the the website running under this link https://sjcompute.org/ | 12:46 |
| thomasboimah | look at the Dns in the cp you will understand | 12:46 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 12:47 |
| zOnny | I see the IP | 12:48 |
| zOnny | however It isn't none of the novawebdev servers | 12:49 |
| zOnny | I think that is some body else server | 12:49 |
| thomasboimah | it is github IP | 12:50 |
| zOnny | I see | 12:56 |
| zOnny | https://github.com/sjcompute/sjcompute.github.io/actions/runs/12700548471 | 12:56 |
| zOnny | I just realized that I'm outdated how github pages works | 12:58 |
| thomasboimah | Ahh | 12:58 |
| zOnny | Before it just to work with a .yml file | 12:58 |
| thomasboimah | I see | 12:58 |
| zOnny | but now it seems to work with just a click | 12:59 |
| zOnny | it makes sense now | 13:08 |
| zOnny | github pages got better these days | 13:09 |
| zOnny | It just matter of clicking on deploy and the site will be live | 13:09 |
| zOnny | thomas quick question | 13:10 |
| thomasboimah | okay | 13:10 |
| zOnny | why we are keeping so many records in the mayfirst dns list of sjcompute? | 13:12 |
| zOnny | there are so many that have been disabled | 13:12 |
| thomasboimah | Yeah i just disabled the one that we pointing to github IP since we are about to migrate the site full to mayfirst now | 13:13 |
| thomasboimah | *was* | 13:13 |
| thomasboimah | And some of that dns is not just for the website some are for email | 13:14 |
| zOnny | ? | 13:14 |
| zOnny | why you did disable the github page? | 13:14 |
| zOnny | We should keep it like that | 13:14 |
| zOnny | it is just html css and js | 13:15 |
| thomasboimah | Because we are fully moving the site to mayfirst | 13:15 |
| zOnny | we don't need a server for hosting it | 13:15 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah github pages works for pages that use html css and js | 13:15 |
| thomasboimah | I know that | 13:16 |
| zOnny | so why disabling it then? | 13:16 |
| thomasboimah | But Jeff want us to move it the site fully to mayfirst instead of it running on github | 13:17 |
| zOnny | ah | 13:17 |
| zOnny | it is in mayfirst | 13:17 |
| zOnny | the side itself it is being serve in the mayfirst dns | 13:18 |
| thomasboimah | So in other to do that we need to give the domain point to mayfirst b.webproxy.mayfirst.org instead of github ip | 13:18 |
| zOnny | *tiste* | 13:18 |
| zOnny | *site* | 13:18 |
| thomasboimah | So in other to do that we need to make the domain point to mayfirst b.webproxy.mayfirst.org instead of github ip | 13:18 |
| zOnny | ok | 13:19 |
| thomasboimah | I just give you server access to the sjcompute membership mayfirst server | 13:19 |
| thomasboimah | I add your ssh please try to see if you can get in | 13:20 |
| zOnny | I think keeping it with github pages is fine since it is straight deployment from the repo to the live site | 13:21 |
| thomasboimah | yeah that is what i though too | 13:21 |
| zOnny | but if jeff wants it in mayfirst | 13:21 |
| zOnny | I'm ok with that one too | 13:21 |
| zOnny | wh ywe don't ask him first and clear it | 13:22 |
| thomasboimah | Yes I agree with you let do that | 13:22 |
| zOnny | hosting it in mayfirst it will require us to login to the server and pull the changes as the other sites | 13:23 |
| thomasboimah | so I am going to active the github IP that i disable | 13:23 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 13:23 |
| zOnny | yes | 13:23 |
| thomasboimah | I already give you server access to sjcompute mayfirst | 13:24 |
| thomasboimah | so Jeff still want it then we can go ahead | 13:24 |
| thomasboimah | *if* | 13:24 |
| zOnny | I would say, that as far it is html css and Js let's keep it in the github pages. if we need to have database that is the time we need to host it | 13:24 |
| zOnny | cool | 13:25 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 13:25 |
| thomasboimah | I agree with you | 13:25 |
| zOnny | is there a way to make it the www.sjcompute.org and sjcompute.org secure? with github pages? | 13:26 |
| zOnny | maybe an alias | 13:26 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 13:27 |
| thomasboimah | it is ready work check dns | 13:27 |
| thomasboimah | the cname | 13:27 |
| thomasboimah | it is already working check dns | 13:27 |
| thomasboimah | the cname | 13:27 |
| zOnny | give me 5 min I'm in the call | 13:30 |
| zOnny | cool | 13:33 |
| zOnny | the domain doesn't seem to work | 13:34 |
| thomasboimah | please try it again if was because i disable the domain that was point to the github ip first | 13:35 |
| thomasboimah | please try it again it was because i disable the domain that was point to the github ip first | 13:35 |
| zOnny | trying | 13:35 |
| zOnny | it is working on your side? | 13:36 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 13:36 |
| zOnny | it works on my phone | 13:37 |
| zOnny | my Network is kinda wierd | 13:37 |
| thomasboimah | i see | 13:37 |
| zOnny | thanks for adding my ssh | 13:39 |
| zOnny | key | 13:39 |
| thomasboimah | sure | 13:39 |
| zOnny | alright, now we know how it is working | 13:39 |
| zOnny | who is 1bMedina? | 13:40 |
| thomasboimah | I think she is or was one of Jeff student | 13:40 |
| zOnny | I see | 13:41 |
| zOnny | where does jeff wants the campaign to be displayed? | 13:42 |
| thomasboimah | Bennet and I still working on that. I just did a draft page of it: https://codeberg.org/tboimah/sjc-laptop-campaign-website-draft | 13:44 |
| thomasboimah | Oh you said where | 13:44 |
| thomasboimah | he want for it be on the sjcompute website or maybe a link in the navbar linking to it | 13:45 |
| zOnny | yes | 13:45 |
| zOnny | OK | 13:49 |
| zOnny | Do you feel working on it with Bennet? | 13:49 |
| zOnny | Will you need my help on it? | 13:49 |
| thomasboimah | Yes I am just helping Bennet and his Team(few of Jeff students) when they need my help. But if they also need your help i can let you know. | 13:51 |
| zOnny | I see | 13:51 |
| zOnny | Do you want to catch up at 2pm? | 13:56 |
| thomasboimah | I though we are start the 2pm next week | 13:56 |
| thomasboimah | *starting* | 13:57 |
| zOnny | sounds good to me | 13:57 |
| zOnny | alright, just make sure when jeff wants the campaign to be live | 13:57 |
| zOnny | probably soon | 13:57 |
| thomasboimah | Okay so starting from next week we can attend the standup in the morning and come back by 2pm your time | 13:57 |
| thomasboimah | Yes | 13:58 |
| zOnny | it will work for me | 13:58 |
| thomasboimah | How far you have gone with the ANCC website? | 14:00 |
| thomasboimah | Is there any work for us to do | 14:01 |
| thomasboimah | ? | 14:01 |
| zOnny | As far I see. Things are moving forward with ANCC | 14:02 |
| zOnny | I think we have a green light for doing a demo | 14:03 |
| thomasboimah | You done with it now? | 14:03 |
| zOnny | I haven't started yet | 14:03 |
| thomasboimah | Ahhh okay | 14:03 |
| zOnny | I needed a confirmation from Jeff | 14:03 |
| thomasboimah | i see | 14:03 |
| thomasboimah | is any work we need to work on? | 14:04 |
| zOnny | I wasn't added in the emails | 14:04 |
| thomasboimah | *their* | 14:04 |
| thomasboimah | Is their any thing we need to work on at the movement? | 14:05 |
| zOnny | we probably need to start setting up a linode first | 14:06 |
| zOnny | at the moment not much to get done | 14:07 |
| zOnny | I will set it up today | 14:07 |
| thomasboimah | okay | 14:08 |
| zOnny | How is the Business Tracker migration | 14:09 |
| zOnny | Do you need any help | 14:09 |
| thomasboimah | I done with | 14:09 |
| thomasboimah | it | 14:09 |
| zOnny | cool | 14:09 |
| thomasboimah | I mention not too long | 14:09 |
| zOnny | I saw the yesterday's logs | 14:10 |
| zOnny | Did you see the mayfirst response with the port for the little webster | 14:10 |
| thomasboimah | Yes | 14:11 |
| thomasboimah | But i am still make some search it we can work around that | 14:11 |
| thomasboimah | *if* | 14:11 |
| zOnny | ok | 14:13 |
| zOnny | What other migrations are missing? | 14:17 |
| zOnny | I haven't heard from Kei about the DCD servers | 14:17 |
| zOnny | she did mention that she will ask tony about them | 14:18 |
| thomasboimah | I think the bot and https://libreorganize.org/ | 14:18 |
| thomasboimah | *bots* | 14:18 |
| zOnny | Where is the https://libreorganize.org/ hosted? | 14:22 |
| thomasboimah | on the same NWD server i think | 14:24 |
| zOnny | we need to move that one as well then | 14:25 |
| zOnny | in order to shut it down the server | 14:26 |
| thomasboimah | yes, that is why i did not shut it down yet | 14:26 |
| zOnny | https://libreorganize.org/ using LO? | 14:28 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 14:29 |
| zOnny | Do you feel migrating it as well? | 14:30 |
| zOnny | or do you want me to do it | 14:30 |
| zOnny | it should be straghtforward | 14:30 |
| thomasboimah | I can do | 14:31 |
| thomasboimah | that but if you want to do it i am also okay with it | 14:31 |
| zOnny | where do you want to put it? | 14:31 |
| zOnny | in the same server? | 14:32 |
| thomasboimah | I will put in on the novawebdev membership | 14:32 |
| thomasboimah | I will put on the novawebdev membership | 14:32 |
| zOnny | in a new server? | 14:32 |
| thomasboimah | But their is something i learn about mayfirst | 14:33 |
| zOnny | ? | 14:33 |
| thomasboimah | in other to host one, two or three on one membership you will need to create another hosting plan. and that is what i did for business tracker | 14:33 |
| thomasboimah | And it is super eassy | 14:34 |
| zOnny | interesting | 14:34 |
| thomasboimah | And what make it good is that you pay for membership not hosting plan | 14:35 |
| zOnny | ah better yet | 14:36 |
| zOnny | Do you have the credentials for Business tracker? | 14:37 |
| zOnny | I want to see how it works | 14:37 |
| thomasboimah | yes let me send you it | 14:38 |
| thomasboimah | I can add your ssh key for server access | 14:39 |
| zOnny | ok | 14:39 |
| thomasboimah | But if you also login the novawebdev membership you will see business tracker in the drop down arrow just like cidu | 14:41 |
| thomasboimah | I just added you ssh key | 14:43 |
| thomasboimah | *your* | 14:43 |
| zOnny | on it | 14:48 |
| zOnny | I got warning : Sorry, you don't seem to have access to this area. | 14:49 |
| zOnny | It is because both of us are logging in at the same time? | 14:49 |
| thomasboimah | I'm out now | 14:50 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: | 14:54 |
| zOnny | can we change the login name to business_tracker instead of tracker | 14:55 |
| zOnny | or businesstracker@ | 14:55 |
| thomasboimah | why not. okay | 14:55 |
| zOnny | I want to be name conventional same as the project name | 14:56 |
| thomasboimah | yeah, it make sense | 14:56 |
| zOnny | are you running your branch? | 14:58 |
| thomasboimah | +1 | 14:58 |
| zOnny | I need you to pay attention to this project | 15:00 |
| zOnny | I think stefan has a diferent approach with this porject | 15:01 |
| zOnny | it is very important to review the commits and understand it | 15:01 |
| zOnny | I saw you have changed it to use env variables? | 15:02 |
| thomasboimah | the work that was on the NWD server use env variable | 15:03 |
| zOnny | yes | 15:04 |
| zOnny | but here stefan was using the config.ini | 15:04 |
| zOnny | that is a different approach | 15:04 |
| zOnny | It is very important to learn about it | 15:05 |
| thomasboimah | I think the work on the NWD server is using config.ini | 15:05 |
| zOnny | That is why it is important to read the commits logs | 15:05 |
| zOnny | https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/business-tracker/-/network/master?ref_type=heads | 15:06 |
| zOnny | novawebdev? | 15:06 |
| zOnny | it is using .env variables | 15:06 |
| thomasboimah | business-tracker | 15:06 |
| thomasboimah | Are you talking about novawebdev or business-tracker? | 15:07 |
| zOnny | business tracker | 15:07 |
| zOnny | business tracker isn't using .env variables | 15:08 |
| thomasboimah | it is using config.ini | 15:08 |
| zOnny | it was using config.ini approach | 15:08 |
| zOnny | do you see this commit? https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/business-tracker/-/commit/40ea649fe1a8cc59db47ad803b29420decab451e | 15:08 |
| zOnny | Stefan was moving away from .env files | 15:08 |
| zOnny | and using a better approach | 15:09 |
| thomasboimah | thomasboimah@nwd-01:/srv/business-tracker/business_tracker$ ls | 15:10 |
| thomasboimah | apps common config.ini.defaults __pycache__ | 15:10 |
| thomasboimah | clean_dump.json config.ini manage.py shifts_to_csv.py | 15:10 |
| thomasboimah | thomasboimah@nwd-01:/srv/business-tracker/business_tracker$ | 15:10 |
| zOnny | right | 15:11 |
| zOnny | we do not need to upgrade the settings.py | 15:14 |
| zOnny | settings.py needs to read config.ini credentials | 15:15 |
| zOnny | that is why config = ConfigParser(interpolation=None) config.read(CONFIG_FILE) | 15:15 |
| zOnny | my point here it is to make it work with the config.ini file rather than changing it manually or to .env | 15:19 |
| zOnny | "config.ini" supports grouped keys ([core], [database], etc.), which keeps related settings together and reduces name collisions; the code already reads multiple sections. | 15:20 |
| thomasboimah | But I think that is what i am using | 15:21 |
| thomasboimah | are you in server | 15:21 |
| thomasboimah | ? | 15:21 |
| zOnny | yes | 15:22 |
| thomasboimah | But in the common/settings.py i am not use env it is config.ini | 15:22 |
| thomasboimah | *using env it is config.ini or I'm i missing something | 15:23 |
| zOnny | no you right :) | 15:24 |
| zOnny | It is already live? | 15:31 |
| zOnny | It isn't loading on my end? | 15:32 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 15:32 |
| thomasboimah | ahh I think | 15:32 |
| thomasboimah | the server stop | 15:32 |
| thomasboimah | let me run it | 15:32 |
| thomasboimah | check it is running now | 15:33 |
| thomasboimah | I even transfer all the that from the NWD server along | 15:34 |
| thomasboimah | I even transfer all the data from the NWD server along | 15:34 |
| zOnny | ah | 15:35 |
| zOnny | nice! | 15:35 |
| zOnny | my house network is the worst | 15:36 |
| zOnny | I think the static files are not loadding | 15:37 |
| thomasboimah | it is on my end | 15:37 |
| thomasboimah | https://tracker.novawebdevelopment.coop | 15:38 |
| zOnny | https://pasteboard.co/jMgmsEsQ00YA.png | 15:41 |
| thomasboimah | https://pasteboard.co/EDZiaPk1iN1S.png | 15:43 |
| zOnny | lol what is going on | 15:43 |
| zOnny | About the DB, not use it it was necessary to load it | 15:44 |
| zOnny | it seems it has a lot of old data | 15:44 |
| thomasboimah | Can you please collect static on the server | 15:45 |
| zOnny | I did | 15:47 |
| zOnny | I see | 15:51 |
| zOnny | why this line? /home/sites/378953/web | 15:55 |
| zOnny | nvm | 15:55 |
| zOnny | why this line https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/business-tracker/-/commit/844f7a82c8b00e97db435d3ff7cba6f631b68532#7c748153520b3a7b06df8eeb222a42a606a33322_107_121 | 15:55 |
| thomasboimah | this is where the static files need to good /home/sites/378953/web | 15:56 |
| thomasboimah | I am just it up | 15:56 |
| thomasboimah | *checking | 15:57 |
| thomasboimah | I think i have a bit mis confugration | 15:57 |
| zOnny | yes I did changed the path | 15:58 |
| zOnny | however, static has few redirects in settings.py | 15:58 |
| thomasboimah | Now everything should be good now | 16:03 |
| thomasboimah | Check it out again | 16:04 |
| zOnny | success! | 16:05 |
| thomasboimah | Yess my bad that was a silly mistake | 16:06 |
| zOnny | thanks for migrating business tracker | 16:08 |
| thomasboimah | sure | 16:08 |
| zOnny | I think that will be useful for your team as well | 16:08 |
| thomasboimah | Yes, I have talk to them about it | 16:08 |
| thomasboimah | But they said that they will compare it with guncash and see which one is the best | 16:09 |
| zOnny | for sure guncash is better than business tracker | 16:09 |
| zOnny | however, business tracker can help you track hours of work | 16:10 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 16:11 |
| zOnny | Business tracker has a lot of work that stefan did to make it useful | 16:11 |
| zOnny | it seems that it has a lot of improvement | 16:11 |
| thomasboimah | yep | 16:12 |
| zOnny | Not sure if it is good idea to keep the old data here | 16:12 |
| zOnny | since we are restarting from scratch | 16:13 |
| zOnny | but I will consult with them about keeping it or have a new database so we start clean | 16:13 |
| thomasboimah | Okay | 16:14 |
| thomasboimah | zOnny, can we have a bit of discussion on somethings that i been seeing on the internet if you don't mind? I want to get you point of view. | 16:14 |
| zOnny | sure | 16:14 |
| thomasboimah | Is it true that AI is going to take Web Developer job? | 16:15 |
| zOnny | It is | 16:15 |
| zOnny | It is already taking job here in the U.S. | 16:15 |
| thomasboimah | So dose that mean it is wast of the learning web Development? | 16:16 |
| thomasboimah | So dose that mean it is wast of time learning web Development? | 16:17 |
| zOnny | https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/ai-is-taking-over-coding-at-microsoft-google-and-meta/490896 | 16:17 |
| thomasboimah | So dose that mean it is waste of time learning how to code or web development? | 16:18 |
| zOnny | not really | 16:19 |
| zOnny | it could be impactful for developers | 16:19 |
| zOnny | but we as developers cannot compete with AI at the speed it looks and search for code that works | 16:21 |
| zOnny | I don't really have a right answer to it | 16:21 |
| zOnny | developers still have a way to think on the best approach and cleanest way to write code | 16:22 |
| zOnny | AI at this point is injecting bunch of code that isn't needed at all | 16:22 |
| zOnny | but I'm sure AI will get better and make it look cleaner the code that fix errors | 16:23 |
| zOnny | Most companies in the U.S. are using AI heavily | 16:24 |
| zOnny | the future is unknown for everyone | 16:25 |
| zOnny | we don't really know how much AI will improve | 16:25 |
| zOnny | The way it is going at this point is really fast | 16:26 |
| zOnny | And it is accessible to everyone | 16:26 |
| thomasboimah | zOnny, do you use AI when you are coding? | 16:27 |
| zOnny | I try to use very limited | 16:27 |
| zOnny | it is helpful | 16:27 |
| zOnny | I try to use it with questions of what does it do? | 16:28 |
| zOnny | the same way I used to google code | 16:29 |
| zOnny | but since AI is already integrated with Google search | 16:29 |
| zOnny | I read what AI shows first | 16:29 |
| zOnny | I like how it summarizes the question I'm asking and help me guiding to a solution | 16:31 |
| zOnny | but when it is coding I try to use it the example it show but when I see it line by line. there is so much that isn't needed | 16:32 |
| zOnny | It really depends how it is used | 16:33 |
| zOnny | For learning purposes it really helps | 16:33 |
| zOnny | but for getting solutions that you don't understand but still use it. | 16:34 |
| zOnny | it is not beneficial when we use what AI is giving us without knowing what it those | 16:35 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 16:36 |
| zOnny | that is all thomas | 16:36 |
| zOnny | I'm not saying you should not use AI | 16:37 |
| zOnny | you need to use in the best way for your learning | 16:38 |
| thomasboimah | Is just that something i feel like i am wasting my time learning how to code if in the end AI will take my job | 16:38 |
| zOnny | I agree | 16:38 |
| zOnny | I do feel the same | 16:38 |
| zOnny | I'm the job that I work for. So much staff has been replaced for AI | 16:39 |
| zOnny | it is a reality that I will probably will face it | 16:39 |
| zOnny | As for know take the advantage that not every business know how to use AI yet | 16:40 |
| thomasboimah | Thanks for the insight zOnny | 16:42 |
| zOnny | how is your dev team feeling about coding | 16:44 |
| thomasboimah | I think they are try little by little. Not too sure since it been a while since we code together. But i am happy now we have our office | 16:45 |
| thomasboimah | so we are going to be coding together again | 16:46 |
| thomasboimah | *trying* | 16:46 |
| thomasboimah | But they going to be joining us soon | 16:49 |
| thomasboimah | *are* | 16:49 |
| zOnny | cool | 16:49 |
| zOnny | I also saw you have started working with the high school students | 16:50 |
| thomasboimah | You mean with Jeff students | 16:50 |
| zOnny | yes | 16:50 |
| thomasboimah | yep | 16:50 |
| zOnny | Todo app seems fun | 16:51 |
| zOnny | it used to be the blog | 16:51 |
| thomasboimah | +1 | 16:51 |
| zOnny | your team also should start working with it and compare their learning with jeff's students | 16:52 |
| thomasboimah | +1 | 16:53 |
| zOnny | Does your team have computers each? | 16:54 |
| thomasboimah | Yes we all have computer | 16:54 |
| zOnny | nice | 16:55 |
| zOnny | what is in your todo now? | 16:56 |
| zOnny | my todo is looking like this | 16:56 |
| thomasboimah | 1. migrate https://libreorganize.org/ to mayfirst 2. Try to see if their is a way we can also migrate the bots, 3. | 16:57 |
| thomasboimah | Any other things that will come up | 16:58 |
| zOnny | My is : -ANCCF set up | 17:01 |
| zOnny | 2. NOVA Web development redesign (this is taking while :) | 17:02 |
| zOnny | 3. LibreOrganize updates | 17:03 |
| zOnny | the number 3 is very important since it will be the base structure of how websites will run | 17:03 |
| zOnny | Everytime I think about LibreOrganize | 17:04 |
| zOnny | I feel that it isn't user friendly yet | 17:04 |
| zOnny | It isn't a CMS friendly | 17:05 |
| zOnny | I feel like user do not do much after logging in | 17:05 |
| zOnny | We need to find a way to make it look more user friendly | 17:06 |
| zOnny | Last time I was working on the events app | 17:06 |
| zOnny | I was comparing it with google | 17:06 |
| zOnny | we don't necessarily need to make it look as google calendar | 17:07 |
| zOnny | but we need to think in a way that events should be more interactive | 17:07 |
| zOnny | if you create an event it should be able to notify you | 17:08 |
| thomasboimah | yep | 17:08 |
| zOnny | also I feel like we may need a pages app? | 17:09 |
| zOnny | Do you think users want to create a page? | 17:09 |
| zOnny | but we don't have to think about it right now | 17:09 |
| zOnny | nobody has asked about it yet | 17:09 |
| zOnny | my focus for now is events | 17:10 |
| thomasboimah | okay | 17:10 |
| thomasboimah | I will try to start writing the test bit by bit | 17:10 |
| zOnny | yes | 17:10 |
| zOnny | we need to update tests, that is a good point | 17:10 |
| zOnny | also you should introduce to your students about tests | 17:11 |
| zOnny | it is better if they start from the beginning | 17:11 |
| zOnny | it makes easier to make sure their apps work | 17:11 |
| thomasboimah | okay | 17:12 |
| zOnny | if they know how to write tests. they could potentially help us out in LO | 17:12 |
| thomasboimah | yes! | 17:13 |
| zOnny | alright thomasboimah | 17:13 |
| zOnny | let's catch next weekend | 17:13 |
| thomasboimah | Okay, Thanks for today zOnny | 17:14 |
| zOnny | I will be more active after 5pm my time | 17:14 |
| zOnny | every day | 17:14 |
| thomasboimah | Okay | 17:14 |
| zOnny | Since I don't have school anymore | 17:14 |
| zOnny | I will be in the irc just in case you want to chat | 17:15 |
| zOnny | or have questions | 17:15 |
| thomasboimah | Okay Thanks | 17:15 |
| zOnny | quick question | 17:15 |
| zOnny | Do you know where are we hosting this https://businesstracker.org/ | 17:16 |
| zOnny | We may also move it to mayfirst | 17:16 |
| zOnny | That could be your next approach after you finish wit your todo list | 17:17 |
| thomasboimah | I think it is on the same NWD server | 17:17 |
| zOnny | I can can take care of it if you take care of the https://libreorganize.org/ | 17:19 |
| thomasboimah | okay | 17:19 |
| thomasboimah | That will be great | 17:19 |
| zOnny | I forgot you have also the sjcompute campaign | 17:19 |
| thomasboimah | aahh yes | 17:20 |
| thomasboimah | But I am hoping to assign some of this to my team | 17:20 |
| zOnny | you are a busy developer now | 17:20 |
| thomasboimah | Yes, I am hoping when my team become active they can help me out | 17:21 |
| zOnny | cool | 17:21 |
| zOnny | see you next time thomasboimah | 17:21 |
| zOnny | ACTION sign off for the day | 17:21 |
| thomasboimah | Okay have a nice day zOnny | 17:21 |
| zOnny | likewisre | 17:22 |
| zOnny | *likewise* | 17:22 |
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