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| thomasboimah | Good morning zOnny | 11:56 |
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| thomasboimah | Sorry about yesterday | 11:56 |
| thomasboimah | my computer when off | 11:56 |
| zOnny | Good morning thomasboimah | 11:56 |
| zOnny | no worries | 11:56 |
| zOnny | Good morning jelkner | 11:57 |
| jelkner | Hello zOnny and thomasboimah! | 11:58 |
| thomasboimah | Good morning jelkner | 11:58 |
| jelkner | What are you going to work on today? | 11:58 |
| zOnny | we shutting down the PRT-06 today | 11:59 |
| zOnny | We are also migrating MMALO to mayfirst | 12:00 |
| jelkner | Nice! | 12:00 |
| jelkner | Great to see progress. | 12:00 |
| jelkner | Super! | 12:00 |
| jelkner | We have our SECOSOL board meeting today. | 12:01 |
| zOnny | Sorry jelkner that the invoice from linode came higher again. I'm sure next invoice should not be the same | 12:01 |
| jelkner | That reminds me that I should bring up having you do the website for Escoba Magica | 12:01 |
| zOnny | jelkner is the website part of the agenda | 12:02 |
| jelkner | Kei and I were planning what we will bring up for the agenda yesterday | 12:02 |
| jelkner | i plan to propose two things | 12:02 |
| jelkner | 1. We hire Lindsey Chapin to guide us through bookkeeping in 2026. | 12:03 |
| jelkner | 2. We hire Kei as our staff person for as long as we can. | 12:03 |
| zOnny | nice | 12:04 |
| jelkner | Getting the Magic Broom website is something I'll bring up with Johanna and Kei on the ride down to Fredericksburg. | 12:04 |
| zOnny | Isn't kei part of the staffing yet | 12:04 |
| jelkner | no, she has been working for Magic Broom | 12:05 |
| jelkner | this would be working for SECOSOL | 12:05 |
| zOnny | I was texting Kei what are the goals wit hMagic Broom | 12:05 |
| zOnny | Since the website hasn't been updated in awhile | 12:05 |
| jelkner | Kei has the best "big picture" view of our small ecosystem. | 12:05 |
| jelkner | None of us are as connected to all the other pieces as she is. | 12:05 |
| zOnny | I think they have it for informational purposes only | 12:05 |
| jelkner | Right now SECOSOL doesn't have any staff. | 12:06 |
| jelkner | So we would be resuming that big responsibility (payroll taxes) if we decide to go ahead with this. | 12:06 |
| zOnny | jelkner indeed | 12:07 |
| jelkner | Hiring Lindsey to help us is a crucial part of that i think | 12:07 |
| jelkner | We have a group of people in interested in the bookkeeping co-op | 12:07 |
| jelkner | johanna, heylin, kei, jelkner, dcammeu, svaye | 12:08 |
| zOnny | OMG! | 12:08 |
| jelkner | and maybe even my wife's grand nephew, Luis | 12:08 |
| zOnny | Bookkeeping has gained a momentum | 12:09 |
| jelkner | well, we need it | 12:09 |
| jelkner | i noticed that the other solidarity economy ecosystems seem to start bookkeeping co-ops | 12:09 |
| jelkner | i can now understand why | 12:09 |
| jelkner | when you're small and under resourced (aka poor ;-), you can't afford to hire a bookkeeper | 12:10 |
| jelkner | so you have to learn to "do it yourself" | 12:11 |
| jelkner | once you do that, you realize you have a skill you can now market to others | 12:11 |
| jelkner | ok, i have to get back to work | 12:11 |
| jelkner | anything else for me before i go? | 12:11 |
| zOnny | I'm understanding that the first person to hire in any business should be bookkeeping staff | 12:11 |
| jelkner | exactly | 12:11 |
| jelkner | well, you need several things at once: | 12:12 |
| zOnny | According to google, Bookkeeping is crucial because it provides a clear financial picture, enabling informed decisions, accurate budgeting, and growth strategies, while ensuring tax compliance, regulatory adherence, and better cash flow management for overall business health and stability. It's the foundation for understanding profitability, identifying expenses, and keeping organized, accurate records essential for taxes, audi | 12:12 |
| jelkner | front office management (including bookkeeping), marketing and sales | 12:12 |
| jelkner | LOL | 12:12 |
| jelkner | yes, that is a textbook statement of why it's important | 12:13 |
| jelkner | btw., zOnny, i finished my first paper for UoPeople yesterday | 12:13 |
| jelkner | https://elkner.net/static/UoPeople/QuantitativeSkillsFeelingsAndConcerns.pdf | 12:13 |
| jelkner | You might want to look at it. | 12:13 |
| zOnny | Will do | 12:14 |
| jelkner | It's short, but it took me *a long* time to write it. | 12:14 |
| zOnny | I will give you my peer review grading :) | 12:14 |
| jelkner | I ended up reading two books first | 12:14 |
| jelkner | thanks, zOnny! | 12:14 |
| jelkner | I would appreciate that ;-) | 12:14 |
| jelkner | ok, anything else? | 12:15 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, we meet tomorrow same time, yes? | 12:15 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 12:15 |
| jelkner | great | 12:15 |
| jelkner | see you then... | 12:15 |
| jelkner | ACTION logs off to get back to work | 12:15 |
| zOnny | jelkner: | 12:15 |
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| zOnny | jelkner!!!!!! where are you | 12:16 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah | 12:16 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 12:17 |
| zOnny | thomas I would like to create a new shared server for Magic Broom | 12:18 |
| zOnny | in mayfirst | 12:18 |
| zOnny | I just click into add a new item, yes? | 12:18 |
| thomasboimah | You want to create a new membership for them or you want to create a host order for them on an existing membership? | 12:19 |
| zOnny | I would like to create a host order for them while they decide whether having a membership | 12:20 |
| zOnny | I feel like waiting do not help us with linode invoicing | 12:20 |
| zOnny | every day counts | 12:20 |
| thomasboimah | On which membership you want to create the hosting order? nova, sjcompute, secosol ? | 12:21 |
| zOnny | ah I am understanding it now | 12:22 |
| zOnny | I'm logged in as novawebdev | 12:22 |
| zOnny | but I didn't know there where other memberships | 12:22 |
| zOnny | are all of them paying the anual membership? | 12:22 |
| thomasboimah | Yeah each coop pay their own membership | 12:23 |
| zOnny | I see | 12:23 |
| thomasboimah | Nova pay from their account, sjcompute pay from their account, as well as secosol and Jetor | 12:23 |
| zOnny | you said $250 each year? | 12:24 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 12:24 |
| zOnny | I think we can host it in secosol's membership | 12:25 |
| zOnny | for now | 12:25 |
| zOnny | I think they are closely related | 12:25 |
| thomasboimah | Okay | 12:25 |
| thomasboimah | You have the login for secosol right? | 12:25 |
| zOnny | quick question | 12:26 |
| zOnny | who is using the other memberships? | 12:26 |
| zOnny | I will log in now | 12:26 |
| thomasboimah | which one of the membership? | 12:26 |
| zOnny | sjcompute? | 12:26 |
| thomasboimah | sjcompute is using their membership for hosting website, email, meetings, nextcloud and etc | 12:27 |
| zOnny | ah | 12:28 |
| zOnny | let me get clear | 12:28 |
| zOnny | if I host Magic Broom within the secosol membership | 12:28 |
| zOnny | does Magic Broom will be able to have email, meetings, nextcloud? | 12:29 |
| thomasboimah | Yes | 12:29 |
| zOnny | separately, yes? | 12:29 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 12:29 |
| zOnny | I'm assuming that sjcompute wanted to have a separate membership then | 12:30 |
| zOnny | rather than hosting under the NOVA | 12:30 |
| thomasboimah | sjcompute have it own membership | 12:30 |
| thomasboimah | it is not hosting under nova | 12:30 |
| thomasboimah | I send you the list of all the membership and credential through mail before right? | 12:31 |
| zOnny | right | 12:31 |
| zOnny | yes | 12:31 |
| zOnny | It start making sense | 12:32 |
| zOnny | let me get clear | 12:33 |
| zOnny | if we hosted under secosol's membership | 12:33 |
| zOnny | what are you thougths about this | 12:34 |
| zOnny | Kei did reply to me saying "We will have a meeting today and discuss about the website" | 12:36 |
| thomasboimah | You mention that Magic Broom and secosol are related so hosting Magic Broom under secosol membership i don't see it to be a problem | 12:36 |
| zOnny | right | 12:36 |
| zOnny | If they want to have a membership we should move it in the future, yes? | 12:37 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 12:37 |
| zOnny | I'm in secosol account | 12:37 |
| zOnny | what is next | 12:38 |
| thomasboimah | click on secosol on the right corner | 12:38 |
| thomasboimah | and create the hosting order | 12:39 |
| thomasboimah | I am not yet sure, and a bit confuse about mayfirst if at the end of the year they are going to charge a little fees for the hosting order | 12:39 |
| zOnny | from the user account I click in "add a new item" yes? | 12:39 |
| thomasboimah | no | 12:39 |
| thomasboimah | not from the user account | 12:39 |
| thomasboimah | you will have to click on Secosol on the right corner | 12:40 |
| thomasboimah | and you will see | 12:40 |
| thomasboimah | Hosting order | 12:40 |
| zOnny | ah | 12:40 |
| zOnny | got it | 12:40 |
| zOnny | hosting order | 12:40 |
| thomasboimah | I mean left conrner | 12:41 |
| thomasboimah | sorry about that | 12:41 |
| zOnny | no worries | 12:41 |
| zOnny | 30GB of disk! | 12:41 |
| zOnny | Do we need all of that for secosol? | 12:41 |
| thomasboimah | no | 12:42 |
| zOnny | ah | 12:42 |
| zOnny | is the membership | 12:42 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 12:43 |
| zOnny | login name? | 12:45 |
| zOnny | is this of the ssh or members panel? | 12:45 |
| zOnny | *for* | 12:45 |
| thomasboimah | both | 12:45 |
| zOnny | Email to send login? | 12:47 |
| zOnny | Do we have admin@novawebdevelopment.coop? | 12:47 |
| thomasboimah | That is optional | 12:48 |
| thomasboimah | you are not force to fill in that | 12:48 |
| thomasboimah | you can leave it blank | 12:48 |
| zOnny | right | 12:49 |
| zOnny | well I like to have it fill out | 12:49 |
| zOnny | but I will pass this time | 12:49 |
| zOnny | done | 12:50 |
| zOnny | that's all | 12:50 |
| zOnny | ? | 12:50 |
| thomasboimah | That is the first step | 12:51 |
| zOnny | members access? | 12:51 |
| thomasboimah | so now if you want to deploy the website you will have to setup the web configure and set up server access | 12:51 |
| zOnny | ok | 12:52 |
| thomasboimah | You will also have to edit the user account to place a password for login | 12:52 |
| thomasboimah | the cp | 12:52 |
| thomasboimah | is NameCheap the domain provide for magic broom? | 12:54 |
| zOnny | I think so | 12:54 |
| thomasboimah | because you will also need to point the domain to mayfirst | 12:54 |
| thomasboimah | by adding mayfirst server to custom domain in NameCheap: a.ns.mayfirst.org, b.ns.mayfirst.org, c.ns.mayfirst.org | 12:55 |
| zOnny | ah | 12:59 |
| zOnny | I added to namecheap | 13:07 |
| thomasboimah | yeah it will take sometime for the dns to propagate | 13:08 |
| zOnny | it seems it will take a little bit of time | 13:08 |
| zOnny | I can't wait | 13:09 |
| zOnny | Is there a way to pay no waiting time :) | 13:09 |
| thomasboimah | lol | 13:10 |
| thomasboimah | zOnny, | 13:11 |
| zOnny | yes? | 13:12 |
| thomasboimah | What you think moving back Libreorganize and business tracker to the NWD server since we are not taking it down anymore? | 13:13 |
| thomasboimah | Because I am not yet sure, and a bit confuse about mayfirst if at the end of the year they are going to charge a little fees for the hosting order | 13:14 |
| thomasboimah | orders* | 13:14 |
| thomasboimah | apart from the membership fees | 13:14 |
| zOnny | how much do you think the fee will be? | 13:14 |
| thomasboimah | I don't know, and i don't know if they are going to charge for them extra | 13:15 |
| thomasboimah | about from the membership | 13:15 |
| thomasboimah | apart | 13:15 |
| zOnny | for sure we need to keep one server into the linode | 13:16 |
| zOnny | NWD will be the one we should be paying ofr | 13:16 |
| zOnny | we can bring it back those projects | 13:17 |
| zOnny | that is the down side with this kind of platforms | 13:18 |
| zOnny | I really like linode or other servers providers | 13:18 |
| zOnny | I like to have full control of my servers | 13:18 |
| zOnny | Emails and nextcloud can be hosted as well | 13:19 |
| zOnny | I did set up custom email for mexicosolidarity project | 13:19 |
| zOnny | but since Jeff feels that we don't want to take charge of that kind of stuff anymore | 13:20 |
| zOnny | mayfirst is our solution | 13:20 |
| zOnny | but I noticed some limitations to it | 13:20 |
| zOnny | It is not bad at all but if they will add fees after membership | 13:21 |
| zOnny | we will have to pay them | 13:21 |
| thomasboimah | I will try to email them about this and ask | 13:22 |
| zOnny | sure | 13:22 |
| thomasboimah | if they are going to charge us extra for hosting orders apart from membership fees | 13:22 |
| zOnny | ok | 13:23 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah it is been more than few minutes | 13:24 |
| zOnny | I still cannot get the web configuration pass | 13:24 |
| zOnny | ACTION stepping away for 5min | 13:24 |
| thomasboimah | try it now | 13:25 |
| zOnny | ACTION is back and trying again | 13:29 |
| zOnny | it did pass :) | 13:30 |
| zOnny | what I'm missing | 13:32 |
| thomasboimah | don't you also want to add this as domain too in case user type it in the browser: www.mujeresmanosalaobra.org | 13:33 |
| thomasboimah | next is to create server access | 13:34 |
| zOnny | right | 13:34 |
| zOnny | did I forget it | 13:34 |
| thomasboimah | I am only seeing mujeresmanosalaobra.org | 13:34 |
| thomasboimah | but i am not seeing www.mujeresmanosalaobra.org | 13:35 |
| zOnny | the ssh is denied due that I haven't log in as a mmalo user | 13:35 |
| zOnny | into the control panel | 13:35 |
| thomasboimah | You have to set a password to useraccount | 13:35 |
| thomasboimah | to login the cp | 13:35 |
| thomasboimah | click the edit button on mm | 13:35 |
| thomasboimah | mmaol | 13:36 |
| thomasboimah | to set a password | 13:36 |
| zOnny | ? | 13:36 |
| zOnny | user account? | 13:36 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 13:36 |
| zOnny | I see | 13:36 |
| thomasboimah | but you already have a user | 13:37 |
| thomasboimah | account | 13:37 |
| zOnny | right | 13:37 |
| zOnny | do I need to put | 13:37 |
| zOnny | first and last name? | 13:37 |
| thomasboimah | you only need to edit it to set a password | 13:37 |
| zOnny | got it | 13:37 |
| thomasboimah | First and last name are optional | 13:38 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah quick question | 13:38 |
| zOnny | do we have admin@novawebdevelopment.coop? email? | 13:38 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 13:38 |
| thomasboimah | we do | 13:38 |
| zOnny | I would like to use broadly | 13:38 |
| zOnny | for any log in | 13:38 |
| thomasboimah | okay | 13:39 |
| zOnny | or recovery password | 13:39 |
| zOnny | it will help any future developer to use it rather than reaching me out | 13:39 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 13:39 |
| zOnny | I'm in | 13:46 |
| zOnny | I did saved the user credentials into bitwarden | 13:46 |
| thomasboimah | Thanks | 13:46 |
| zOnny | let me know if you can see it | 13:46 |
| thomasboimah | I see it | 13:47 |
| zOnny | I did added your pub to the server | 13:48 |
| thomasboimah | thanks | 13:49 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah I will be leaving at 9:15 with my dad | 13:50 |
| thomasboimah | Okay | 13:50 |
| thomasboimah | np | 13:50 |
| thomasboimah | no problem | 13:50 |
| zOnny | he has an appointment at 10:00 so he asked me to do him a ride | 13:50 |
| thomasboimah | Okay zOnny | 13:51 |
| zOnny | I will be back at 11 | 13:51 |
| thomasboimah | tell your dad hi for me | 13:51 |
| thomasboimah | You will be here Tuesday? | 13:51 |
| zOnny | will do | 13:51 |
| zOnny | what is tuesday? | 13:52 |
| thomasboimah | I was just asking if you will her on Tuesday. but never mind | 13:52 |
| zOnny | I will connect next weekend | 13:53 |
| thomasboimah | since you say will be back by 11 i will wait for you. but if not we can complete this Tuesday i will be free on Tuesday | 13:53 |
| zOnny | Is something happening on Tuesday? | 13:53 |
| zOnny | sure | 13:53 |
| zOnny | ah | 13:54 |
| zOnny | ACTION zonny logs out until 11 and goes to turn his car on to warm it up since it is really cold outside | 13:58 |
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| zOnny | hi thomasboimah | 15:58 |
| thomasboimah | Hi zOnny | 15:58 |
| zOnny | ls | 15:59 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: | 16:05 |
| zOnny | quick favor | 16:05 |
| thomasboimah | okay | 16:05 |
| zOnny | will you be able to add my pub into NWD server | 16:05 |
| thomasboimah | sure | 16:05 |
| thomasboimah | done | 16:10 |
| thomasboimah | done adding your ssh key | 16:11 |
| zOnny | thanks for adding both | 16:12 |
| thomasboimah | sure | 16:13 |
| zOnny | I'm going to backup the data | 16:14 |
| zOnny | and put it there | 16:14 |
| thomasboimah | Alright | 16:14 |
| zOnny | why my ssh aren't working today | 16:15 |
| zOnny | PRT-06 I was logged in yesterday | 16:16 |
| zOnny | but now I got permission denied | 16:16 |
| thomasboimah | me too | 16:16 |
| zOnny | alright | 16:25 |
| zOnny | I added again | 16:25 |
| zOnny | you should be able to ssh there | 16:25 |
| zOnny | weird that it didn't save it | 16:25 |
| thomasboimah | thanks | 16:27 |
| zOnny | https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/libreorganize-customization/libreorganize-themes/-/blob/MMALO/settings.py?ref_type=heads | 16:35 |
| zOnny | this is what should never be push in the repo | 16:36 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION going to the bathroom | 16:56 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION is back | 17:04 |
| zOnny | alright | 17:09 |
| zOnny | almost there | 17:09 |
| zOnny | I have backup the db into NWD | 17:09 |
| zOnny | I'm trying to get it run in the mayfirst | 17:10 |
| thomasboimah | okay | 17:10 |
| zOnny | the website seems to be broken | 17:16 |
| zOnny | with the new Bootstrap5 | 17:16 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah | 17:25 |
| zOnny | quick question | 17:25 |
| thomasboimah | okay | 17:25 |
| zOnny | How do I load the data? | 17:27 |
| zOnny | I did created the postgres into the mayfirst | 17:28 |
| thomasboimah | my typing python manage.py loaddata "the file name" | 17:29 |
| zOnny | the postgres data? | 17:29 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 17:29 |
| zOnny | this is after I run migrations? | 17:30 |
| thomasboimah | is the file json or .sql | 17:30 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 17:30 |
| thomasboimah | ? | 17:31 |
| zOnny | .sql | 17:31 |
| thomasboimah | ahh | 17:31 |
| thomasboimah | then you will have to use psql -d database_name -f "the file.sql" | 17:32 |
| thomasboimah | zOnny, | 17:34 |
| thomasboimah | I notice that the web configure in the cp is not set properl. and that will give issue loading the static file | 17:35 |
| zOnny | what is the issue | 17:36 |
| zOnny | it doesn't go to /web/static? | 17:36 |
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| thomasboimah | zOnny, are you still here | 18:03 |
| thomasboimah | ? | 18:03 |
| thomasboimah | sorry i lost my connection | 18:03 |
| zOnny | yes | 18:03 |
| zOnny | now worries | 18:03 |
| thomasboimah | HOw is it going? | 18:03 |
| thomasboimah | is their any blocker? | 18:03 |
| zOnny | I cannot scp the .sql | 18:03 |
| zOnny | from PRT-06 server | 18:03 |
| zOnny | I have setup the pub keys for both of them | 18:04 |
| zOnny | but it does work to extract it to the mayfirst | 18:04 |
| zOnny | but I can extract from mayfirst to the PRT-6 | 18:04 |
| zOnny | i'm getting anoyed and trying to find why can't extract it | 18:05 |
| thomasboimah | But what you think scping to your local first before carrying it to mayfirst | 18:06 |
| zOnny | why? | 18:06 |
| zOnny | I cannot do it from server to server? | 18:07 |
| zOnny | I will do it that way then | 18:07 |
| thomasboimah | I am saying since server to server is not working, why can't you scp it to you local before to server | 18:07 |
| thomasboimah | since that will save you time, then later we can investage why server to server not working | 18:08 |
| zOnny | sounds good | 18:12 |
| zOnny | that is a good advice | 18:12 |
| zOnny | it says no a file or directory | 18:16 |
| zOnny | scp -r mmalo_lo20260201.sql mmalo@shell.mayfirst.org:/home/sites/379858/include/mmalo/libreorganize/ | 18:17 |
| zOnny | what is wrong there | 18:17 |
| thomasboimah | remove the -r | 18:19 |
| thomasboimah | it is a file you are copying not a directory | 18:20 |
| zOnny | right | 18:20 |
| thomasboimah | Try that let see | 18:20 |
| zOnny | even if I remove it | 18:20 |
| zOnny | IT SHAY NO SUCH FILE OR DIRECTORY | 18:20 |
| zOnny | can you be able to help me the reason why? | 18:21 |
| thomasboimah | where is the file so i can scp it to my local a try too? it is on NWD server right? | 18:21 |
| zOnny | I do have the mmalo_lo20260201.sql in the NWD | 18:21 |
| zOnny | yes | 18:22 |
| zOnny | I'm going to pick my dad | 18:22 |
| zOnny | I will send you an email if I succeed later | 18:22 |
| thomasboimah | Okay i will be here given it a try | 18:23 |
| thomasboimah | zOnny, | 18:23 |
| zOnny | thanks thomasboimah | 18:23 |
| thomasboimah | The goal here is to run the mmalo website on mayfirst right? | 18:23 |
| zOnny | yes | 18:23 |
| thomasboimah | along with the existing data | 18:23 |
| zOnny | yes | 18:23 |
| zOnny | although there isn't existing data I think | 18:23 |
| thomasboimah | ? | 18:24 |
| thomasboimah | Then why are you trying to load the .sql file? | 18:24 |
| zOnny | nvm | 18:24 |
| zOnny | there is existing data | 18:25 |
| thomasboimah | okay | 18:25 |
| zOnny | I was trying to load it because I need to remember on how to | 18:25 |
| zOnny | but it seems mayfirst doesn't like me | 18:26 |
| zOnny | neither I :) | 18:26 |
| zOnny | ACTION signs off and goes to pick up his dad | 18:28 |
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