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| jelkner | Good morning thomasboimah! | 11:52 |
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| thomasboimah | Good morning jelkner a | 11:52 |
| gabriel_jetro | Greetings jelkner and thomasboimah | 11:56 |
| jelkner | Hello gabriel_jetro and jkollie | 11:56 |
| thomasboimah | Good morning gabriel_jetro | 11:56 |
| thomasboimah | Good morning jkollie | 11:56 |
| jkollie | Hi jelkner | 11:56 |
| gabriel_jetro | Good morning jkollie | 11:57 |
| jelkner | we missed you yesterday jkollie | 11:57 |
| jelkner | great to see you this morning | 11:57 |
| jkollie | jelkner am truly sorry about yesterday | 11:57 |
| jelkner | jkollie, do you know if fkoikoi is planning to attend? | 11:57 |
| gabriel_jetro | thomasboimah: when will zonny be here I'm in service wanna give him update on yesterday progress and a few questions for him | 11:57 |
| jkollie | yes she will be here any moment from now | 11:58 |
| thomasboimah | By 12:00 gabriel_jetro | 11:58 |
| jelkner | 1 1/2 minutes ;-) | 11:58 |
| gabriel_jetro | Okay | 11:58 |
| gabriel_jetro | ACTION waiting till 12:00pm | 11:58 |
| jelkner | look at that | 11:59 |
| jelkner | like clockwork ;-) | 11:59 |
| jelkner | good morning zOnny! | 11:59 |
| thomasboimah | Good morning zOnny | 11:59 |
| zOnny | jelkner: Good morning | 11:59 |
| jelkner | jkollie, i want to talk about Decidim | 11:59 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: Good Afternoon | 11:59 |
| jelkner | to avoid too much chatter here, maybe you, fkoikoi and me could jump over to the #sjcompute channel? | 12:00 |
| jelkner | i don't see you there now | 12:00 |
| jelkner | let me know | 12:00 |
| jelkner | it would be good if dcammue could join us too | 12:01 |
| jelkner | but i don't see him here today either | 12:01 |
| jelkner | jkollie, let's you and i have a brief conversation over on that channel | 12:02 |
| jelkner | can we? | 12:02 |
| jkollie | okay jelkner | 12:02 |
| jelkner | then i need to get back to work on other tasks | 12:02 |
| zOnny | jelkner we will be keep going with the dev team then | 12:03 |
| gabriel_jetro | Good morning zOnny | 12:03 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah gabriel_jetro anything would you like to everyone be aware of? | 12:04 |
| thomasboimah | I email mayfirst concerning our issue with business Tracker did you see the email? | 12:05 |
| zOnny | yes thomasboimah | 12:06 |
| zOnny | thank you for sending it over | 12:06 |
| zOnny | so thomasboimah let's update the prod so we can open settings | 12:07 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro do you have any questions for me? | 12:07 |
| gabriel_jetro | Yesterday I made progress by moving copying the Jetrowebdev site, I noticed that jetro Web have many html file so I cp them in the template of theme repo also the css and js, from the hone.html file I notice that copying Jetrowebdev home.html would overide the template home.html so I rename Jetrowebdev own and copy it there to no overide it, also in the template home.html I saw that there's a setting with at the top {% | 12:09 |
| gabriel_jetro | load static %} so I add this line to all jetro Web html header and also add static to each href, was it the best way or I shouldn't have done ? | 12:09 |
| gabriel_jetro | ACTION waiting to move forward | 12:09 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro is there a repo for the jetrowebdev website? | 12:12 |
| gabriel_jetro | Yes | 12:12 |
| zOnny | would you be able to share it with me | 12:12 |
| gabriel_jetro | I would but right now I'm in church | 12:12 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: did you were able to log in to linode | 12:12 |
| gabriel_jetro | Can we work later today | 12:12 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro sounds good | 12:13 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: let me know when you are ready later | 12:13 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: I will be here | 12:13 |
| thomasboimah | the NWD linode account? | 12:13 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah yes | 12:13 |
| thomasboimah | +1 | 12:13 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: with your new tboimab-novawebdev | 12:13 |
| thomasboimah | with that no | 12:14 |
| gabriel_jetro | What the time at your end right now zOnny, because I'll be home in 6hrs time | 12:14 |
| thomasboimah | wait | 12:14 |
| thomasboimah | let me see again | 12:14 |
| zOnny | Try to log in into irc gabriel_jetro | 12:14 |
| zOnny | if you see me in the channel | 12:14 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro just ping me | 12:15 |
| gabriel_jetro | Okay | 12:15 |
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| zOnny | thomasboimah few things we need to update in business tracker | 12:19 |
| thomasboimah | Yeah i was able to login with that username | 12:19 |
| thomasboimah | to linode | 12:19 |
| thomasboimah | Okay | 12:19 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah I did forget to mention that business tracker relies heavily in cron jobs | 12:20 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah in order to update invoices | 12:21 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: time tracking | 12:21 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah little components here and there | 12:22 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah I was amazed how Stefan added all these components to make business tracker the way it works | 12:23 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah projects like this require a lot of planning and understanding of the apps functionality | 12:24 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah invoicing and time managing isn't an easy job | 12:24 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah little mistakes can cost the business to lost the trust of partners and personel | 12:26 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah business tracker plays a multifunctional role compared to LibreOrganize | 12:28 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: the good thing is that Stefan follow the same steps working with the two projects. So they get so much familiarity | 12:29 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: I just want to have a better idea about business tracker background | 12:30 |
| zOnny | *you* | 12:30 |
| thomasboimah | Okay | 12:30 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah business tracker doesn't suits everyone's business | 12:31 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: business tracker suits novawebdev and others that work with servers and partners | 12:32 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: other coops | 12:32 |
| zOnny | give me few minutes | 12:47 |
| zOnny | I'm adding the jobs | 12:47 |
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| zOnny | thomasboimah quick question | 13:04 |
| thomasboimah | shoot | 13:05 |
| zOnny | I did it within the crontab -e command | 13:05 |
| zOnny | what is the difference in not using the cronjobs schedules from the panel? | 13:05 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: the cronjobs schedule isn't developer friendly | 13:06 |
| thomasboimah | it is | 13:07 |
| zOnny | also I forgot to use nano editor :) | 13:09 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: have you restarted the business tracker after the git pull ? | 13:10 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: the gunicorn | 13:11 |
| thomasboimah | Yeah | 13:11 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: why still cannot open settings from the dashboard? | 13:12 |
| thomasboimah | That is what i am try to figure out too | 13:12 |
| thomasboimah | *trying* | 13:12 |
| thomasboimah | zOnny, can | 13:16 |
| thomasboimah | you try to run migration | 13:16 |
| zOnny | no | 13:31 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah I think I know where the error is coming from | 13:32 |
| zOnny | I see you are in settings.py | 13:32 |
| zOnny | can I edit it for a few minutes | 13:33 |
| thomasboimah | Okay | 13:36 |
| zOnny | alright | 13:38 |
| zOnny | can you restart the gunicorn? | 13:38 |
| thomasboimah | okay | 13:39 |
| zOnny | I see | 13:40 |
| thomasboimah | we are getting an error | 13:40 |
| zOnny | yes | 13:43 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: are you familiar with error code? | 13:43 |
| zOnny | 500 means our Django app threw an exception on the server | 13:44 |
| thomasboimah | Your config.ini file is missing the [servers] section that the SettingsForm is trying to read. The error shows it's looking for LINODE_API_TOKEN in a [servers] section. | 13:44 |
| zOnny | good point | 13:45 |
| zOnny | did you delete this line? [servers] LINODE_API_TOKEN= | 13:46 |
| zOnny | is is what it is in the config.ini.defaults | 13:46 |
| thomasboimah | now | 13:46 |
| thomasboimah | no | 13:46 |
| thomasboimah | I did not touch anything | 13:46 |
| zOnny | that makes sense then | 13:47 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION going to bathroom | 13:48 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION back | 13:54 |
| zOnny | alright | 13:55 |
| zOnny | I added there | 13:55 |
| zOnny | let's try again | 13:55 |
| thomasboimah | All good now | 13:55 |
| thomasboimah | ;-) | 13:55 |
| zOnny | progress | 13:56 |
| zOnny | glad you pint point the error there | 13:56 |
| zOnny | Is there a reason to modify accounts/views.py? | 13:58 |
| thomasboimah | -1 | 13:59 |
| zOnny | cool | 13:59 |
| zOnny | I need to update the settings.py in the repo | 13:59 |
| zOnny | due that we now work with mayfirst | 14:00 |
| thomasboimah | Sound good with me | 14:00 |
| zOnny | the host and port has changed from the linodes localhost | 14:00 |
| zOnny | it will be safe to get it simple | 14:01 |
| zOnny | alright | 14:07 |
| zOnny | the repo has been updated | 14:08 |
| zOnny | I just noticed there are so much deprecated django imports | 14:08 |
| zOnny | we need to start updating it | 14:08 |
| zOnny | also due that Andrian has updated it to HTMX in the experimental branch | 14:10 |
| zOnny | It does require us to update few things in order to make it work at its best | 14:11 |
| zOnny | ACTION goes to bathroom after drinking 2 cups of coffee :) | 14:11 |
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| zOnny | ACTION is back | 14:24 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah do you have questions? | 14:26 |
| thomasboimah | -1 | 14:27 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah did you see what I have added to crontab -e | 14:27 |
| thomasboimah | not | 14:27 |
| thomasboimah | yet | 14:27 |
| thomasboimah | now i just see it | 14:29 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah I will be gone for 20min | 14:33 |
| thomasboimah | np | 14:33 |
| zOnny | I need to take my dad to his class | 14:33 |
| thomasboimah | no problem | 14:33 |
| zOnny | ACTION steps away for 20min | 14:34 |
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| zOnny | ACTION is back | 15:22 |
| zOnny | alright thomasboimah | 15:23 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: quick question | 15:29 |
| thomasboimah | shoot | 15:29 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: when choosing a port for gunicorn | 15:29 |
| zOnny | is there an specific port we need to choose? | 15:29 |
| zOnny | I see the port is pointing to 24681 | 15:30 |
| thomasboimah | NO you can choose any port | 15:30 |
| zOnny | an | 15:30 |
| thomasboimah | but it should be greater then 4 digit. I think | 15:30 |
| zOnny | so I need to kill those PID's in order to restart gunicorn? | 15:31 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 15:32 |
| thomasboimah | by using kil -9 id-1 and id 2 | 15:32 |
| thomasboimah | *kill -9 id-1 id 2 | 15:33 |
| zOnny | done | 15:39 |
| zOnny | alright | 15:39 |
| zOnny | I updated some changes I committed | 15:39 |
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| zOnny | thomasboimah what are you thoughts on getting jetro with business tracker as well? | 15:43 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah how do you feel about your team commitments? | 15:44 |
| thomasboimah | Yeah, The business team promise me that they are going to start using that | 15:44 |
| zOnny | so do they want to use the novawebdev? | 15:45 |
| zOnny | or it will be better to have a separate for the jetro specifically | 15:45 |
| thomasboimah | That i can discuss with them | 15:46 |
| thomasboimah | since it is a coop | 15:46 |
| thomasboimah | everyone have to vote | 15:46 |
| thomasboimah | ;-) | 15:46 |
| zOnny | +1 | 15:48 |
| zOnny | I want your team be able to track the time that they have been working on | 15:49 |
| thomasboimah | Yeah me too | 15:49 |
| zOnny | I think that it is always the issue when it comes to payment | 15:49 |
| thomasboimah | you right | 15:49 |
| thomasboimah | But if i can remember they said that they are looking between guncash and bt to see which one is best for them | 15:50 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: if you ask me which one is the best | 15:51 |
| zOnny | I will say gnucash will be the best choice | 15:51 |
| thomasboimah | I see | 15:52 |
| thomasboimah | That i way each time they talk about it | 15:52 |
| thomasboimah | *is* | 15:52 |
| zOnny | business tracker provides simplicity to the hassle of gnucash | 15:53 |
| zOnny | it could be the other way around | 15:53 |
| jelkner | zOnny, i need to go, but let me mention something that just came up in our meeting | 15:54 |
| zOnny | jelkner: go aheadh | 15:54 |
| jelkner | https://github.com/matorral-project/matorral | 15:54 |
| jelkner | If cjones approves this, we will hire thomasboimah to set it up for us | 15:55 |
| jelkner | so keep reducing our vms | 15:55 |
| jelkner | we will need to free up a few of them for our own development work | 15:55 |
| jelkner | anything else from me before i go? | 15:55 |
| zOnny | nice | 15:56 |
| zOnny | yes | 15:56 |
| jelkner | i'm all ears | 15:56 |
| jelkner | (or eyes, really, since this is irc! ;-) | 15:56 |
| thomasboimah | lol | 15:56 |
| zOnny | not really | 15:57 |
| zOnny | we can catch up later | 15:57 |
| jelkner | okie dokie | 15:57 |
| zOnny | this is MDlatino cauces | 15:57 |
| jelkner | do you need me to do something? | 15:57 |
| zOnny | we haven't catch up on it | 15:57 |
| jelkner | right, when do you want me to call you? | 15:57 |
| zOnny | no at the moment | 15:57 |
| zOnny | anytime jeff | 15:58 |
| zOnny | jelkner: no work tomorrow | 15:58 |
| jelkner | zOnny, can you call me at 703-998-3934 when you want to talk about this? | 15:58 |
| zOnny | I think is holiday in the U.S. | 15:58 |
| jelkner | yes, zOnny | 15:58 |
| jelkner | it's Presidents Day | 15:58 |
| zOnny | not sure if I like to celebrate that :( | 15:58 |
| jelkner | LOL | 15:59 |
| jelkner | not with the one we have now, that's for sure!!!! | 15:59 |
| jelkner | anyway, do you want to talk today or tomorrow | 15:59 |
| zOnny | let's do it tomorrow early morning Jeff | 15:59 |
| jelkner | i'll be home most of the day tomorrow, but i have a lunch meeting with a friend | 15:59 |
| jelkner | ok, right after our 7 am meeting | 15:59 |
| zOnny | at 5:00 AM? | 15:59 |
| jelkner | I can to 5 am | 16:00 |
| jelkner | I'll be up at 3:30 am | 16:00 |
| zOnny | I know you do :) | 16:00 |
| jelkner | want me to call at 5? | 16:00 |
| zOnny | after the meeting sounds good | 16:00 |
| jelkner | lol | 16:00 |
| jelkner | that's better | 16:00 |
| jelkner | because my wife will kill me if we meet at 5 | 16:00 |
| jelkner | since i talk too loud :-( | 16:00 |
| zOnny | It is also Back History month :) | 16:01 |
| jelkner | yes it is | 16:01 |
| jelkner | okie dokie, until tomorrow at 7 am | 16:01 |
| zOnny | jelkner I will let you go then | 16:01 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off | 16:01 |
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| thomasboimah | zOnny, | 16:02 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: yes? | 16:02 |
| thomasboimah | quick personal question | 16:02 |
| zOnny | shoot | 16:02 |
| zOnny | go ahead | 16:02 |
| thomasboimah | When you was learning Django do you memorize or get to know all of the imports. I am trying to do that but it is a lot and it is giving me headache :-( | 16:04 |
| thomasboimah | I need your advise | 16:04 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: that is a really good question | 16:05 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: no need to memorize the imports | 16:05 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: sometimes you get used to it when you have it used in many projects | 16:06 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: do not overwhelm yourself | 16:06 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: in the case of business tracker | 16:06 |
| zOnny | I double check the imports at the top of the views, models, and forms | 16:08 |
| zOnny | I do ctrl + f | 16:08 |
| zOnny | to find if the import is being used | 16:08 |
| zOnny | I also do search if the actual django in use is still using it | 16:09 |
| zOnny | that's all | 16:09 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: for sure there are many imports that can me used | 16:10 |
| zOnny | *be* | 16:10 |
| zOnny | not sure why but I try to rely heavily in google | 16:11 |
| zOnny | I copy the import to see what it does for what it is used | 16:11 |
| zOnny | for | 16:11 |
| zOnny | but most imports from django you will get familiar with them | 16:12 |
| zOnny | the more you work in different projects | 16:12 |
| thomasboimah | Thanks | 16:13 |
| thomasboimah | You think what is the best format that i can used to master Django quick. | 16:13 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah no need to memorize it | 16:13 |
| zOnny | it will come naturally to your mind once you start importing by yourself | 16:14 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: probably you are getting overwhelm with the ones Stefan and Adrian have already used | 16:14 |
| thomasboimah | yeah | 16:15 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: but it is matter of time that you will come to use them eventually and remember those imports once you reviewed other projects | 16:15 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: soemthing we as developers will do is maintain clean code and update it | 16:16 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: of course before AI takes over it :( | 16:16 |
| zOnny | As far I see AI is trying to fit that role | 16:17 |
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| zOnny | thomasboimah but AI isn't good enough yet to overcome us | 16:19 |
| thomasboimah | sure | 16:19 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah do not get overwhelm, no need to give a hard time your brain. you are doing great | 16:20 |
| thomasboimah | I really want to master Django quick. But i know that will take sometime. ;-) | 16:21 |
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| zOnny | thomasboimah: it does take time. Sometimes you just need to learn what you need in every project | 16:22 |
| zOnny | I'm like you | 16:23 |
| zOnny | I wish I can learn Java, React, and Ruby | 16:24 |
| zOnny | I do have idea of the syntax but I would love to built projects from scratch | 16:25 |
| zOnny | That was Stefan Idea of LibreOrganize and Business Tracker | 16:25 |
| zOnny | He is working for Microsoft now | 16:26 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: Let time play its role | 16:27 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah the best way to keep learning is teaching others | 16:27 |
| thomasboimah | Alright Thanks for the advice zOnny | 16:28 |
| thomasboimah | I appreciate | 16:28 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: anytime | 16:28 |
| thomasboimah | zOnny, was Stefan a student of Jeff | 16:29 |
| thomasboimah | ? | 16:29 |
| zOnny | He was my classmate | 16:29 |
| zOnny | yes | 16:29 |
| thomasboimah | wow | 16:29 |
| thomasboimah | So you're was Jeff student too | 16:29 |
| zOnny | I did introduced him to django | 16:29 |
| zOnny | but He was born to code :) | 16:29 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: yes | 16:30 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: Jeff likes to introduce his class with NOVA Web Dev projects | 16:30 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: like right now | 16:30 |
| zOnny | the way you are doing with his students | 16:30 |
| thomasboimah | Nice | 16:31 |
| zOnny | thanks to jeff I have learned a lot about computer science | 16:31 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: I think that is his goal with Jetro as well | 16:32 |
| thomasboimah | yeah | 16:33 |
| zOnny | and he is still studying at UoPeople :) | 16:34 |
| thomasboimah | You mean Jeff or Stefan? | 16:34 |
| zOnny | Jeff | 16:34 |
| thomasboimah | got you | 16:35 |
| zOnny | ACTION going to pick up his dad | 16:35 |
| thomasboimah | Okay | 16:35 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: if you run out of charge I will see you tomorrow at the 7am meeting | 16:36 |
| thomasboimah | Okay, but current is at my apartment | 16:37 |
| thomasboimah | I mean electricity | 16:37 |
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