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| jelkner | Good morning mulbah_ | 10:57 |
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| jelkner | Hello World, zOnny! | 10:57 |
| zOnny | print("Hello World!") | 10:58 |
| inana | !adenda | 10:59 |
| inana | !agenda | 10:59 |
| Websterss | No active meeting. Use !startmeeting <ID> to set a meeting as active. | 10:59 |
| jelkner | Yesterday i attended a very productive DNOVA Council meeting. Today i'll be working my UoPeople week 7 tasks. No blockers. | 11:00 |
| zOnny | Good morning nana | 11:00 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 11:00 |
| inana | Good Morning! | 11:00 |
| jelkner | inana, is that you Nana? | 11:00 |
| zOnny | Last weekend, we successfully completed the TDD for BT. Additionally, we have separated the servers app from the core. I also reviewed the @Penrosian Tasks app and made updates to enhance its reliability and robustness through TDD. Today, I would like to hear any updates regarding the ARTC issue and see how I can assist. No Blockers. | 11:00 |
| zOnny | ACTION done | 11:00 |
| inana | Yes, my friend! @jelkner | 11:00 |
| jelkner | for in in range(1000) print("Yeah!") | 11:00 |
| jelkner | oops, forgot the : | 11:01 |
| jelkner | for in in range(1000): print("Yeah!") | 11:01 |
| zOnny | Print error; | 11:01 |
| jelkner | so great to see you you! | 11:01 |
| inana | Omg, I think its been a while, I forgot the IRC comands :sad: | 11:01 |
| jelkner | you can teach me | 11:01 |
| inana | Same, my friend ;-) | 11:01 |
| jelkner | i only use the very basics | 11:02 |
| jelkner | thanks for joining us this early morning | 11:02 |
| zOnny | What time is there nana? | 11:02 |
| jelkner | as zOnny may have told you, he's working to get NOVA Web back off the ground | 11:02 |
| inana | Np, it's great to be here! - It's 5 am | 11:02 |
| jelkner | and we're dreaming of pulling you and louie back in with us | 11:03 |
| jelkner | but we need to make revenue first :-( | 11:03 |
| jelkner | we're working on it | 11:03 |
| inana | yes, he mentioned it - Glad to know that he's back, that was our dream, right? | 11:03 |
| jelkner | +1 | 11:03 |
| jelkner | good morning gabriel_jetro | 11:03 |
| jelkner | i wonder what happened to thomas and daniel? | 11:04 |
| gabriel_jetro | They'll be here there's no electricity here right now | 11:04 |
| jelkner | got you | 11:04 |
| jelkner | well, gabriel_jetro, we'll chat with you, and you can fill them in later | 11:05 |
| jelkner | (and they can read the logs) | 11:05 |
| gabriel_jetro | Okay | 11:05 |
| jelkner | we are honored to have here with us today Natalia Cerna (a.k.a.) "Nana" | 11:05 |
| gabriel_jetro | mulbah_: is here also jelkner | 11:06 |
| jelkner | i said good morning to mulbah_ | 11:06 |
| jelkner | but he didn't respond | 11:06 |
| mulbah_ | I didn’t see it | 11:06 |
| gabriel_jetro | Lol | 11:06 |
| mulbah_ | Good morning | 11:06 |
| jelkner | my bad, mulbah_ | 11:06 |
| jelkner | great to see you | 11:06 |
| zOnny | Good morning mulbah_ | 11:06 |
| jelkner | so inana is a professional designer | 11:07 |
| gabriel_jetro | Good morning zOnny | 11:07 |
| zOnny | Good morning gabriel_jetro | 11:07 |
| jelkner | and to make professional websites, you need a professional designer | 11:07 |
| mulbah_ | Good morning zOnny | 11:07 |
| mulbah_ | And gabriel_jetro | 11:07 |
| jelkner | inana, are you available for a few NOVA Web / Jetro Web gigs? | 11:07 |
| thomasboimah | Hello world! | 11:08 |
| jelkner | good morning thomasboimah | 11:08 |
| inana | thanks for the introduction @jelkner -Yes, I mentioned zOnny yesterday, that I'll be glad to work on some gigs | 11:08 |
| jelkner | so let's talk about that | 11:08 |
| inana | shoot | 11:09 |
| jelkner | zOnny will be the one who mostly knows what's going on | 11:09 |
| zOnny | jelkner: I know all the secrets | 11:09 |
| jelkner | but i can start with a project of my own i am willing to hire a designer to work on | 11:10 |
| jelkner | https://sjcompute.org/ | 11:10 |
| jelkner | Don't change the logo please, i really like it | 11:10 |
| inana | taking a look... | 11:10 |
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| jelkner | but it desperately needs a face lift | 11:11 |
| inana | wow, this is new to me, I like the logo too @jelkner | 11:11 |
| jelkner | it will be a good opportunity for the Jetro websters to see a designer at work | 11:11 |
| dcammue | good morning jelkner gabriel_jetro zOnny inana ans mulbah_ | 11:11 |
| mulbah_ | Sure | 11:12 |
| jelkner | so, can SJC (Social Justice Computing) hire NOVA Web to update our website? | 11:12 |
| gabriel_jetro | Morning | 11:12 |
| jelkner | zOnny, i'm asking you | 11:12 |
| jelkner | since you know all the secrets | 11:12 |
| zOnny | +1 | 11:12 |
| jelkner | sweet | 11:12 |
| jelkner | we want it to be bilingual, too | 11:13 |
| jelkner | en/es | 11:13 |
| jelkner | and there is a broken link at the bottom of the page | 11:13 |
| zOnny | jelkner: in order to move that way we need to run it in the server side | 11:13 |
| jelkner | yes, it should be on may first | 11:14 |
| jelkner | sjc is a member of may first | 11:14 |
| zOnny | jelkner: sjc is a github webpage | 11:14 |
| jelkner | yes, i want to move it | 11:14 |
| zOnny | jelkner: sure | 11:14 |
| zOnny | jelkner: can be done today | 11:14 |
| jelkner | i've been waiting until y'all had a designer | 11:14 |
| jelkner | now you do! ;-) | 11:14 |
| jelkner | btw. everyone, it looks like i may have a mentor! | 11:15 |
| zOnny | jelkner: a designer that is familiar with our tools | 11:15 |
| jelkner | the best FOSS designer on the planet | 11:15 |
| jelkner | she will teach you all penpot | 11:15 |
| inana | I'm getting blush now @jelkner | 11:16 |
| jelkner | lol | 11:16 |
| inana | it's nice to see Senior zOnny, leading the ship ;-) btw | 11:16 |
| gabriel_jetro | Lol | 11:16 |
| jelkner | +1 | 11:16 |
| jelkner | ok, i have a lot of UoPeople work to do | 11:16 |
| jelkner | so i can't stay long today | 11:17 |
| inana | so, he's going to be my project manger as well, I assume @jelkner | 11:17 |
| jelkner | +1 | 11:17 |
| zOnny | jelkner: A ship that is going to pass the "Strait of Hormuz" | 11:17 |
| inana | nice | 11:17 |
| jelkner | Ouch! | 11:17 |
| inana | funny zOnny | 11:17 |
| jelkner | only if it flying a chinese flag, my friend, than you'll be ok | 11:17 |
| jelkner | s/than/then | 11:17 |
| jelkner | ok, jetro folks, i won't be at the meeting tomorrow | 11:18 |
| jelkner | zOnny and i have a customer meeting at 8 am our time with JJ | 11:18 |
| jelkner | and then i have the SJC board meeting | 11:18 |
| zOnny | jelkner: Thanks for the reminder | 11:18 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, dcammue, please make sure Janet is in a place where she has a good connection | 11:19 |
| dcammue | okay | 11:19 |
| thomasboimah | sure | 11:19 |
| jelkner | anything else before i go torture myself with Financial Management? | 11:20 |
| zOnny | jelkner: yes | 11:20 |
| jelkner | shoot | 11:20 |
| zOnny | jelkner: any update regarding ARTC Issue? | 11:20 |
| jelkner | Tony rocks! | 11:20 |
| zOnny | jelkner: I was reading Tony's emails | 11:20 |
| jelkner | yes, so he's on it | 11:20 |
| zOnny | jelkner: great | 11:20 |
| jelkner | that reminds me | 11:21 |
| jelkner | dcammue, thanks for the invoice | 11:21 |
| zOnny | this is a lesson for keeping our documentation on top | 11:21 |
| jelkner | we really, really, *really* need to get this billing and payments workflow down! | 11:21 |
| dcammue | okay | 11:21 |
| jelkner | or we will sink like a ship in hormuz :-( | 11:22 |
| zOnny | jelkner: pretty much | 11:22 |
| jelkner | dcammue, can you work with thomasboimah to setup GnuCash on webschool for Jetro? | 11:22 |
| jelkner | then start the books with this year | 11:22 |
| jelkner | so you have Jan. and Feb. 2026 | 11:22 |
| dcammue | it is set up already | 11:22 |
| thomasboimah | Jetro do have it | 11:23 |
| jelkner | nice | 11:23 |
| jelkner | how can i see it? | 11:23 |
| jelkner | did you create a db user for me? | 11:23 |
| jelkner | dcammue, please email me instructions on how i can connect | 11:23 |
| dcammue | just login the same way before | 11:23 |
| dcammue | okay | 11:23 |
| thomasboimah | All of the backupdata, user and permission was move to the new server | 11:24 |
| jelkner | zOnny, the reason i am saying this is that we were supposed to send ARTraffic a bill each year for maintaince | 11:24 |
| jelkner | we never did | 11:24 |
| inana | wow | 11:24 |
| jelkner | we know how to fix things, but we don't know how to bill! | 11:24 |
| jelkner | you can't run a business that way | 11:24 |
| inana | old issue ;-( | 11:24 |
| jelkner | yes, inana, now we have dcammue | 11:24 |
| jelkner | so it is different this time | 11:24 |
| inana | glad to know that | 11:25 |
| jelkner | and he has backup in svaye | 11:25 |
| jelkner | sometimes, not this morning :-( | 11:25 |
| jelkner | and, inana, the reason i enrolled in an MBA program | 11:25 |
| zOnny | jelkner: I see | 11:25 |
| jelkner | which i hate | 11:26 |
| jelkner | is because we need to solve that old problem | 11:26 |
| inana | right | 11:26 |
| jelkner | so now we have much more depth on the business side | 11:26 |
| inana | good | 11:26 |
| jelkner | dcammue, please send me an email to my nova web address with instruction on connecting my gnucash to the jetro books | 11:27 |
| dcammue | okaky | 11:27 |
| jelkner | it may be 2 weeks until i can get to it | 11:27 |
| jelkner | since i'm so far behind on so many things | 11:27 |
| jelkner | but my UoP class ends in two weeks | 11:27 |
| dcammue | okay | 11:27 |
| jelkner | so i can look at it then | 11:27 |
| jelkner | but i want to connect sooner than that | 11:27 |
| jelkner | zOnny, i'll work with Tony on billing for his work | 11:28 |
| jelkner | so great that he found the problem | 11:28 |
| dcammue | before Monday i will send the email | 11:28 |
| zOnny | jelkner: great | 11:28 |
| jelkner | great dcammue | 11:28 |
| jelkner | last thing about the invoice dcammue | 11:28 |
| jelkner | you will need to learn to do the booking based on a retainer | 11:29 |
| jelkner | we have no way to pay individual invoices | 11:29 |
| jelkner | since it costs $50 to transfer funds | 11:29 |
| jelkner | so we will want to make large transfers | 11:29 |
| inana | agaric works like that @jelkner | 11:29 |
| dcammue | okay jelkner | 11:29 |
| jelkner | +1 | 11:29 |
| jelkner | if we transfer $5K | 11:30 |
| jelkner | $50 is only 1% | 11:30 |
| jelkner | we can live with that | 11:30 |
| jelkner | a 1% financial cost | 11:30 |
| jelkner | then whenever you do billable work, you draw from that account | 11:31 |
| jelkner | that's why i need you to have the GnuCash set up | 11:31 |
| dcammue | sweet | 11:31 |
| jelkner | so we can track what is happening together | 11:31 |
| jelkner | we will need to learn to use GnuCash with the dual currencies | 11:32 |
| jelkner | ok, anything else before i go? | 11:32 |
| dcammue | have a nice day jelkner | 11:32 |
| jelkner | i will if you will my dear friend | 11:33 |
| zOnny | jelkner: | 11:33 |
| jelkner | zOnny: see you tomorrow at 8 am at the City Diner | 11:33 |
| zOnny | jelkner: quick recap about nana's work? | 11:33 |
| jelkner | go for it | 11:33 |
| zOnny | jelkner: can you list the specifics about whta would you like to change in the SJC website? | 11:33 |
| inana | +1 | 11:34 |
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| jelkner | 1. i want it bilingual | 11:34 |
| jelkner | 2. i want it look like a professional designed it | 11:34 |
| jelkner | 3. i want the broken links removed | 11:34 |
| jelkner | that's all for now | 11:34 |
| jelkner | keep it simple | 11:34 |
| zOnny | jelkner: thanks | 11:34 |
| zOnny | jelkner: all clear | 11:34 |
| inana | same info, right @jelkner | 11:34 |
| jelkner | +1 | 11:35 |
| jelkner | but in both languanges | 11:35 |
| jelkner | any other questions for your customer? | 11:35 |
| zOnny | see you tomorrow jelkner | 11:35 |
| jelkner | see y'all tomorrow | 11:36 |
| jelkner | so GREAT to have you back with us inana! | 11:36 |
| zOnny | all? | 11:36 |
| jelkner | nope | 11:36 |
| inana | thank you jelkner <3 | 11:36 |
| jelkner | sorry, see zOnny tomorrow, and the rest of you on monday | 11:36 |
| jelkner | and hopefully inana here next week? | 11:36 |
| inana | sure | 11:37 |
| zOnny | nice | 11:37 |
| jelkner | let's try to make saturday the weekly check-in | 11:37 |
| jelkner | does that work for you inana? | 11:37 |
| jelkner | i know it's early | 11:37 |
| zOnny | jelkner: good to see you made it nana | 11:37 |
| inana | yup | 11:37 |
| inana | ;-) thanks | 11:37 |
| jelkner | okie dokie | 11:38 |
| inana | see you later alligator jelkner | 11:38 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off to torture himself with financial management :-( | 11:38 |
| zOnny | jelkner: | 11:38 |
| jelkner | you can't keep doing this zOnny | 11:38 |
| zOnny | jelkner: leave the bag of gravel | 11:38 |
| jelkner | lol | 11:38 |
| jelkner | ACTION drops the bag of gravel | 11:38 |
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| zOnny | alright nana | 11:39 |
| zOnny | I know you have to go | 11:39 |
| inana | alright, thanks zOnny - let's get in touch to move forward | 11:39 |
| zOnny | inana: let's keep in touch about this request | 11:39 |
| inana | cool | 11:39 |
| zOnny | inana: I will send you an email for catching up with this project | 11:40 |
| zOnny | inana: I think the first move will have to be on my end | 11:40 |
| inana | okay | 11:40 |
| zOnny | inana: due that the design part can be done alfer I transfer it to the bilingual feature | 11:41 |
| inana | I see | 11:41 |
| zOnny | inana: not sure if using LO will be convenient or just have it in a plain django | 11:41 |
| zOnny | inana: I think LO will be my move due that you are familiar with it | 11:42 |
| inana | mmm it depends on the needs of the users | 11:42 |
| zOnny | inana: also it can help us improve it | 11:42 |
| inana | right | 11:42 |
| zOnny | inana: any questions? | 11:43 |
| inana | not really, I'll be waiting for that email and then we can keep going zOnny | 11:43 |
| inana | thanks again | 11:43 |
| zOnny | inana: great | 11:43 |
| inana | see you soon then zOnny | 11:44 |
| zOnny | inana: see you | 11:44 |
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| zOnny | inana: thanks for making to the meeting today | 11:44 |
| zOnny | alright jetro team! | 11:44 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: dcammue gabriel_jetro mulbah_ are you'll herE? | 11:45 |
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| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: it seems that the dev team is getting connection issues? | 11:45 |
| mulbah_ | Yes | 11:46 |
| zOnny | I understand | 11:46 |
| zOnny | if it doesn't get better | 11:46 |
| zOnny | I will understand it. | 11:47 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: it is good to see you back | 11:47 |
| mulbah_ | Yes | 11:47 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: you too | 11:47 |
| mulbah_ | So how the development on LibreOrganize | 11:47 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: last time we meet was about getting jetro website using LO | 11:48 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: I saw jetro has updated the website https://jetrowebdevelopment.org/ | 11:48 |
| zOnny | that is great | 11:48 |
| mulbah_ | Yes | 11:48 |
| zOnny | however the goal is not completed | 11:48 |
| mulbah_ | How the new design looks | 11:48 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: it looks great | 11:49 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: it will look better with real designer eyes | 11:49 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: when designing a website requires a lot of color patterns | 11:49 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: you will understand later | 11:50 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: there is a lot to learn | 11:50 |
| zOnny | but one thing a the time | 11:50 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: gabriel_jetro I know you both have interested in learning how LO works | 11:50 |
| mulbah_ | Sure | 11:51 |
| zOnny | my goal with both of you is to use LO as the core structure for the jetro website | 11:51 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: has started the repo | 11:51 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: having the html css and js in this repo and branch https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/libreorganize-customization/libreorganize-themes/-/tree/jetrowebdevelopment | 11:52 |
| zOnny | is the goal for both of you | 11:53 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: gabriel_jetro the goal here is to both of you get familiar with gitlab | 11:53 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: gabriel_jetro It isn't good practice to make updates in the server | 11:53 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: gabriel_jetro no body likes to have changes in the server due that servers are the host for ready projects | 11:54 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: gabriel_jetro servers are like incubators for the eggs | 11:55 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: gabriel_jetro any changes into this incubators can ruin the eggs | 11:55 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: gabriel_jetro if you both can send the html css and js into the repo above | 11:56 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: gabriel_jetro it will be easy for me and thomasboimah to pull the changes you made in that repo | 11:56 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: gabriel_jetro Does that make sense? | 11:57 |
| mulbah_ | +1 | 11:57 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: gabriel_jetro do you know what to do? | 11:58 |
| mulbah_ | Not too sure | 11:59 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: please ask me if you have questions | 11:59 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: do you want me to show you the first move? | 11:59 |
| mulbah_ | Yes | 12:00 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: you did mention that jetro has its membership with mayfirst, yes? | 12:00 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: sure | 12:00 |
| thomasboimah | +1 | 12:00 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: great | 12:01 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: we will need to start a new server for the jetro website | 12:01 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: you did mention that https://jetrowebdevelopment.org/ is using github pages? | 12:02 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 12:02 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: got it | 12:02 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: can you point me to that repo? | 12:02 |
| zOnny | I think you did send me the repo | 12:02 |
| thomasboimah | yeah, please check last week log | 12:03 |
| zOnny | got it | 12:07 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: do you see this repo? https://github.com/tboimah/jetrowebdevelopment | 12:07 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: this repo has html css and js only | 12:07 |
| mulbah_ | Yes I see it I have access to it | 12:08 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: what I 'm going to do is get the html home page running with LO | 12:08 |
| zOnny | https://github.com/tboimah/jetrowebdevelopment/blob/main/index.html | 12:09 |
| zOnny | meaning I will store it in https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/libreorganize-customization/libreorganize-themes/-/tree/jetrowebdevelopment | 12:09 |
| zOnny | you can do the rest | 12:09 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: the goal is once I get the index.html working with LO and you can pull the update | 12:09 |
| zOnny | it means we both are in the same page | 12:10 |
| zOnny | if you add the other html there | 12:10 |
| zOnny | I will pull your changes | 12:10 |
| zOnny | I should be able to see what you have changed | 12:10 |
| zOnny | that is why using git is very important | 12:11 |
| mulbah_ | Yes | 12:11 |
| zOnny | every time you finish a change do: git status, git add <name-of-the-changed-file>, git commit -m "added a new about page", and git push origin jetrowebdevelopment | 12:12 |
| zOnny | that is all | 12:13 |
| mulbah_ | I always do that | 12:13 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: do you have libreorganize running? | 12:13 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: do you have theme directory running in LO? | 12:13 |
| mulbah_ | I have a good understanding with git | 12:13 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: theme should be next to manage.py | 12:14 |
| mulbah_ | I’m not understanding what you mean by LO | 12:14 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: LO (Libre Organize) | 12:14 |
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| mulbah_ | Ehhh I was just thinking | 12:14 |
| mulbah_ | What is the meaning of LO | 12:14 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: do you have both repos running in your local computer | 12:15 |
| mulbah_ | Yes | 12:15 |
| zOnny | the meaning of LO is Libre Organize | 12:15 |
| mulbah_ | I have the LO | 12:15 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: can you do ls in your LibreOrganize and send me what do you have? | 12:15 |
| mulbah_ | Running but I haven’t created the theme folder near the manag.py file | 12:16 |
| mulbah_ | My computer is off Im using my phone right now | 12:16 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: I see | 12:17 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: we can work when you have your computer running | 12:18 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: I think it will be difficult for me help you if you are on the phone | 12:18 |
| mulbah_ | Okay current in not here now | 12:18 |
| mulbah_ | But I can email you when it’s on | 12:18 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: sure | 12:19 |
| mulbah_ | We can use tmate and vim editor to work | 12:19 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: try to make sure you have your computer ready when trying to work with the dev team | 12:19 |
| mulbah_ | Tmate will allow me share my terminal with you | 12:20 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: we can use it | 12:20 |
| mulbah_ | Okay | 12:20 |
| mulbah_ | send me your email | 12:21 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: you can send me to my edzon.quinteros@novawebdevelopment.coop | 12:21 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: I will try to reply | 12:21 |
| mulbah_ | Okay | 12:21 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: I will start the first move for you | 12:21 |
| mulbah_ | Okay | 12:22 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: I will add the index.html https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/libreorganize-customization/libreorganize-themes/-/tree/jetrowebdevelopment | 12:22 |
| zOnny | so you get the idea | 12:22 |
| zOnny | mulbah_: thanks for today | 12:22 |
| zOnny | I hope to see you next meeting | 12:23 |
| zOnny | gabriel_jetro: are you here? | 12:23 |
| mulbah_ | Sure you will see me | 12:23 |
| mulbah_ | I think he’s not around | 12:25 |
| thomasboimah | zOnny, Sorry i am really having bad internet | 12:27 |
| thomasboimah | btw I am on the office computer i am not on my personal computer | 12:27 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: i understad | 12:27 |
| thomasboimah | zOnny, is Nana both frontend and backend developer? | 12:28 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: nana is a graphic designer | 12:28 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: nana isn't a developer | 12:29 |
| thomasboimah | got you | 12:29 |
| zOnny | ACTION is making coffee | 12:30 |
| zOnny | give me 2 min | 12:31 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: quick question | 12:37 |
| thomasboimah | zOnny, I notice something about BT when you create an invoice, instead of it having the co-op name it will have something at the top "OUR COMPANY". | 12:37 |
| thomasboimah | *Sorry svaye notice not me | 12:37 |
| thomasboimah | shoot | 12:37 |
| thomasboimah | zOnny, | 12:37 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: ? | 12:40 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 12:40 |
| zOnny | where is this? | 12:40 |
| zOnny | https://tracker.sjcompute.org/ | 12:40 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 12:41 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: I need to organize this project with the new BT | 12:42 |
| thomasboimah | new BT? | 12:43 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: the new BT has servers as a custom app | 12:43 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: also will have tasks apps coming from Jeff student Penrosian | 12:43 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 12:43 |
| thomasboimah | I saw his merge request | 12:43 |
| zOnny | https://gitlab.com/penrosian/business-tracker/-/tree/tasks-mr | 12:44 |
| zOnny | I did update his repo | 12:44 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: can you wait for a min until I merge the updates | 12:45 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: does the invoice you have created is jetro's invoice? | 12:45 |
| thomasboimah | Okay, so you mean this https://tracker.sjcompute.org/ is not up-to-date? | 12:46 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: I though we are going to work on that feature first | 12:46 |
| thomasboimah | Yes, it was svaye that created that | 12:46 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: that is why Jeff did wait to add more servers | 12:46 |
| zOnny | due that I mentioned that Stefan wanted the servers removed from core apps | 12:47 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: I will also have to enable company invoices | 12:48 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: that is also a feature Jeff wants in BT | 12:48 |
| zOnny | remember | 12:48 |
| thomasboimah | yeah | 12:48 |
| thomasboimah | to switch between Jetro and nova | 12:48 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: what you have in business tracker invoices right now after you have transferred | 12:49 |
| zOnny | it is running the default invoice template | 12:49 |
| thomasboimah | Yeah that what i though | 12:49 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: Do you need this invoice to be sent today? | 12:50 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: does Jetro has a logo? | 12:50 |
| thomasboimah | No, I just tell the business team to just be dogfooding it | 12:50 |
| thomasboimah | svaye and dcammue | 12:50 |
| thomasboimah | no pressure | 12:50 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: let me get it done by today | 12:51 |
| thomasboimah | Yes | 12:51 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: tomorrow they can do the dogfooding | 12:51 |
| thomasboimah | Okay, but i will like to work on that with you but np | 12:52 |
| thomasboimah | go for it | 12:52 |
| thomasboimah | I will review what you did when you're do | 12:52 |
| thomasboimah | *done | 12:52 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: is this logo done with AI? https://tracker.sjcompute.org/static/img/jetrologo.jpeg | 12:52 |
| thomasboimah | I think so, mulbah_ did that | 12:53 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: are you in the office? | 12:53 |
| thomasboimah | I think he use AI to do that | 12:53 |
| thomasboimah | mulbah_, do you use AI for the logo? | 12:53 |
| thomasboimah | yes zOnny | 12:53 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: I see | 12:54 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: we will need a more simple logo | 12:54 |
| thomasboimah | yeah | 12:54 |
| thomasboimah | and nana can help with that | 12:54 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: this logo could be copyrigh with AI | 12:54 |
| thomasboimah | since i am not a graphic desgner | 12:54 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: exactly | 12:55 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: that is why I brought nana into this meeting | 12:55 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: she can help us out with that work | 12:55 |
| thomasboimah | Thanks making her join us zOnny | 12:55 |
| thomasboimah | *for | 12:55 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: I hope she can help us out | 12:56 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: can you backup the postgrest on your end for BT? | 12:56 |
| thomasboimah | sure | 12:56 |
| zOnny | I will update the server with the updated BT | 12:57 |
| thomasboimah | Okay | 12:57 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: you got it? | 13:10 |
| thomasboimah | sure | 13:11 |
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| zOnny | dcammue: are you here | 13:49 |
| dcammue | Yes | 13:50 |
| zOnny | dcammue: great | 13:50 |
| dcammue | How are you zOnny | 13:50 |
| zOnny | dcammue: I just want to update about business tracker | 13:50 |
| zOnny | I know you are trying to do dogfooding with the app | 13:50 |
| dcammue | Yes | 13:51 |
| zOnny | I just have it updated | 13:51 |
| zOnny | now the site is down :) | 13:51 |
| zOnny | isn't booting the gunicorn | 13:52 |
| zOnny | give me one sec | 13:52 |
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| zOnny | thomasboimah: do you know why isn't booting the gunicorn? | 13:56 |
| thomasboimah | I am trying to ssh in to the server and see but i am having some internet issue | 13:57 |
| thomasboimah | But what is the command you use to in booting gunicorn | 13:57 |
| thomasboimah | ? | 13:57 |
| thomasboimah | But what is the command you use in booting gunicorn? | 13:58 |
| zOnny | gunicorn -b 127.0.0.1:24685 common.wsgi | 13:58 |
| thomasboimah | and you are in the business-tracker/business-tracker dir | 13:59 |
| thomasboimah | are you login into the sjcompute membership or novawebdev membership? | 13:59 |
| zOnny | yes | 14:00 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: I'm in the business tracker you set up | 14:01 |
| thomasboimah | yeah the one on the sjcompute membership. But what is the error message when you try to run gunicorn? | 14:01 |
| thomasboimah | Sorry about my internet, I am trying to ssh into the server but my internet can permitted me | 14:02 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: I understand | 14:40 |
| zOnny | gunicorn isn't helping today | 14:40 |
| thomasboimah | What is the error it is giving? | 14:42 |
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| zOnny | 503 | 14:47 |
| zOnny | Hi anthony_p | 14:47 |
| thomasboimah | Yeah that mean gunicorn is not running yet | 14:48 |
| thomasboimah | When my internet get stable and strong i will try to ssh and see | 14:49 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: ok | 14:55 |
| thomasboimah | zOnny, is there anything that you will need me to do on BT, since you will not be here tomorrow? | 14:58 |
| zOnny | I just want you to understand the way I'm getting the custom_apps work | 15:02 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: it will be important to you to understand how to plug in and out the apps | 15:02 |
| zOnny | Not sure if you have the chance to run penrosian's repo | 15:03 |
| zOnny | He/She did have a good start implementing the tasks apps | 15:03 |
| zOnny | It just needed to be polished | 15:03 |
| zOnny | I have added coverage tests | 15:04 |
| thomasboimah | Okay | 15:04 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: you should be able to run his work | 15:05 |
| thomasboimah | I will do that | 15:05 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: due that you work with him closely during the week | 15:06 |
| thomasboimah | when my internet gets stable and strong | 15:06 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: I left some requests that I have already fix for him | 15:06 |
| zOnny | we just need to move his merge request as a custom app | 15:06 |
| zOnny | we cannot add his merge request into the core apps | 15:07 |
| zOnny | unless needed or voting process | 15:07 |
| zOnny | that's all from me | 15:10 |
| thomasboimah | Okay thanks | 15:10 |
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| thomasboimah | zOnny, What are you working on now? | 15:51 |
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| zOnny | thomasboimah: I'm trying to find the Issue | 15:56 |
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| zOnny | thomasboimah: it is back | 16:48 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: It was a local.py that I didn't copy into the server | 16:49 |
| zOnny | i have enabled the custom_apps/local.example.py but never did the cp :D | 16:50 |
| thomasboimah | i see | 16:53 |
| zOnny | I thought it was gunicorn issue | 16:54 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: quick question | 16:55 |
| zOnny | is the bitwarden subscription over? | 16:56 |
| thomasboimah | not really, the network provide "Lonestar" is having some issue | 16:57 |
| thomasboimah | *provider | 16:57 |
| thomasboimah | GSM company | 16:57 |
| zOnny | ? | 16:57 |
| zOnny | anthony_p: are you here | 16:58 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 16:58 |
| anthony_p | hello | 16:58 |
| zOnny | Hey anthony_p any update regarding ARTC Issue? | 16:59 |
| anthony_p | I was able to get into their system. i added some stuff into the bitwarden to allow for continuity so people can get in | 16:59 |
| zOnny | great | 17:00 |
| anthony_p | i identified the issue and it's with the graph/chart library HighCharts | 17:00 |
| zOnny | anthony_p: is your bitwarden account working just fine? | 17:00 |
| anthony_p | when they created business tracker the library was free to use, but it's got a fee now, so they blocked the host | 17:01 |
| zOnny | anthony_p: It makes sense. Are they willing to pay for the fee? | 17:02 |
| zOnny | anthony_p: or are they willing to move with free alternatives? | 17:02 |
| anthony_p | not sure yet, i'm contacting support from the library provider, because i want to see if they'll send me the much older version for free | 17:02 |
| anthony_p | and it looks like bitwarden is not going anymore | 17:02 |
| anthony_p | i just restarted the bitwarden subscription | 17:05 |
| zOnny | anthony_p: thanks | 17:06 |
| zOnny | anthony_p: The boat is back afloat | 17:07 |
| anthony_p | but on the ARTC subject, i don't know if they're going to want to pay, there are different payment options, and there are free alternative. are there any graphing/charts in the standard version of business tracker you're working on? | 17:09 |
| anthony_p | the ARTC is a modified refactored version | 17:09 |
| zOnny | anthony_p: I will say if they are using a specific version they should pay for the perpetual license | 17:12 |
| anthony_p | yes, that's what i was thinking, but they're using a version that was free 10 years ago, so i'm hoping that the support folks will send me a copy of they old free version and I can just host the files from the server itself in the same configuration as the previous cdn and just point the script tags at the self hosted cdn to minimize changes | 17:13 |
| anthony_p | that would be the path of least resistance. if they want to charge, i'll see if ARTC will pay for the perpetual license. but if they don't want to spend the money on that, we'd probably have to rewrite a bunch of code for a different free library which would cost them more in labor from us vs a license from highcharts | 17:15 |
| anthony_p | but it is nice to know that this was an unforeseen incident created by a third party rather than a failure of the code | 17:16 |
| anthony_p | also, they don't do cicd pulls from the repository, so have at it and hack away | 17:16 |
| zOnny | anthony_p: great, thanks for the confirmation | 17:18 |
| zOnny | anthony_p: I thought it was related to the updates | 17:18 |
| zOnny | anthony_p: I think the ball is in their court, yes? | 17:19 |
| zOnny | If any free alternatives I will suggest https://echarts.apache.org/en/index.html | 17:20 |
| anthony_p | right now, it's at highchart, waiting for their support to reply | 17:21 |
| anthony_p | i think that in the normal business tracker, we should definitely start working on replacing with a free version, to avoid this issue in the future | 17:22 |
| anthony_p | but for theirs, it's a 10 year old product, the path of least resistance and lowest cost right now would be to continue using highcharts and having ARTC buy a perpetual license | 17:22 |
| zOnny | anthony_p: Good point | 17:27 |
| anthony_p | alternatively, we could potentially ask if they want to pay for 1 year subscription while we rebuild the graphing/charting to use a free alternative | 17:29 |
| zOnny | anthony_p: As far I know Business Tracker isn't running Highcharts | 17:29 |
| anthony_p | okay, so then we should just have the do the perpetual license if they're up for it, if i can't get the old version for free | 17:30 |
| anthony_p | that really is the ideal. i bet the 10.3.3 was released under an open license | 17:30 |
| zOnny | anthony_p: 10.3.3 was probably available to download/use under Highcharts’ license terms. | 17:32 |
| zOnny | anthony_p: I'm assuming they are using it for commercial use? | 17:33 |
| anthony_p | yes | 17:34 |
| zOnny | anthony_p: I think it is still free for personal non-comercial use. | 17:36 |
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| zOnny | thomasboimah: are you here | 17:41 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 17:42 |
| thomasboimah | following the conversation | 17:42 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: great | 17:42 |
| zOnny | anthony_p: VPN required? | 17:48 |
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| anthony_p | for artc? yes | 17:49 |
| anthony_p | using forticlient specifically because they use fortinet for their vpn | 17:49 |
| anthony_p | i'm having a bit of trouble connecting right now because of some config stuff on my end, but you can give it a go. when you need a token, just text me and i'll send you the token from my phone, if you want to look at their stuff | 17:50 |
| anthony_p | there's an ar traffic folder with 3 different sets of login information in bitwarden | 17:51 |
| zOnny | anthony_p: I do see them | 17:51 |
| zOnny | anthony_p: I will give it a try | 17:52 |
| zOnny | Fun fact: I never used VPN before :D | 18:02 |
| zOnny | Learning on how to use it | 18:02 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: are you here | 18:07 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: I will be heading out for now | 18:07 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: let me know how you setup with the custom_apps goes in the next meeting | 18:08 |
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| zOnny | thomasboimah: If you can help Penrosian to migrate his app into https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/business-tracker-customization/custom-apps | 18:08 |
| zOnny | would be great | 18:09 |
| zOnny | ACTION sigs off for the day | 18:09 |
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