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| thomasboimah | Yesterday, we worked on updating the Nova Web Dev team/about page and deployed the sjcompute site with the bilingual features. Today, we will be working on improving the Business Tracker. No blockers. | 11:00 |
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| thomasboimah | ACTION done | 11:00 |
| zOnny | Yesterday, Thomas and I made updates to Ssjcompute and Nowebdev. Our objective for today is to continue updating our projects. No Blockers. | 11:00 |
| zOnny | ACTION done | 11:01 |
| zOnny | Good morning team | 11:01 |
| zOnny | how you all doing | 11:01 |
| thomasboimah | Good morning zOnny | 11:01 |
| thomasboimah | Good and you? | 11:01 |
| zOnny | Good | 11:02 |
| zOnny | is mulbah joining us? | 11:02 |
| thomasboimah | hmm can really tell | 11:02 |
| zOnny | i was trying to check on the links update | 11:02 |
| zOnny | also see if we can move forward with the boxes | 11:03 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: maybe next time | 11:03 |
| thomasboimah | sure | 11:03 |
| zOnny | dcammue: are you here? | 11:03 |
| thomasboimah | I think dcammue is not really paying attention | 11:04 |
| zOnny | all good | 11:04 |
| zOnny | let's recap our todo | 11:04 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: did you get any issue with your branches at BT? | 11:05 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: due that I reorganized a littlle bit | 11:05 |
| thomasboimah | Not really | 11:05 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: great | 11:05 |
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| zOnny | thomasboimah: do you have an gmail? | 11:09 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 11:09 |
| zOnny | ? | 11:09 |
| thomasboimah | boimahthomas2005@gmail.com | 11:09 |
| jelkner | My humble apologies, I lost track of the time! | 11:09 |
| jelkner | I usually set an alarm, but today i didn't :-( | 11:10 |
| thomasboimah | no worries jelkner | 11:10 |
| jelkner | some worries, thomasboimah, but hopefully not too many | 11:10 |
| jelkner | like i keep saying, we all make mistakes, but if our error rate goes to high, we fail | 11:10 |
| jelkner | so i need to struggle with myself to keep that error rate low | 11:11 |
| jelkner | since we want to succeed, right? | 11:11 |
| jelkner | so anyway, apologies for missing the meeting today | 11:11 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 11:11 |
| jelkner | everyone needs to do their part, including jelkner! | 11:12 |
| zOnny | jelkner: all good | 11:12 |
| jelkner | so how did it go yesterday? | 11:12 |
| zOnny | jelkner: yesterday was a productive day | 11:12 |
| zOnny | jelkner: we did the updates requested | 11:13 |
| jelkner | nice, i'm reading logs and looking now | 11:13 |
| jelkner | zOnny, did you talk tony and kei about this? | 11:14 |
| jelkner | and nana | 11:14 |
| zOnny | jelkner: about? | 11:14 |
| jelkner | when i look at the home page on my big screen | 11:14 |
| jelkner | it seems there is *a lot* of wasted white space | 11:14 |
| jelkner | glad to see the our team updated | 11:15 |
| zOnny | jelkner: ah | 11:15 |
| jelkner | but it looks not so good having images of different sizes | 11:15 |
| zOnny | jelkner: I forgot you have big screen | 11:15 |
| jelkner | i can file an issue | 11:15 |
| jelkner | but this is why we need a designer | 11:15 |
| zOnny | jelkner: yes, it can be improved | 11:15 |
| zOnny | jelkner: yes | 11:15 |
| jelkner | it is good to have updated info | 11:16 |
| jelkner | but as we market ourselves as web design professionals | 11:16 |
| jelkner | it really needs to look good! | 11:16 |
| jelkner | i don't know how to do that | 11:16 |
| jelkner | but i can often spot things that don't look so good | 11:16 |
| jelkner | that's why we need nana | 11:17 |
| jelkner | we should talk about the workflow | 11:17 |
| thomasboimah | zOnny, don't you think that the css is not loading properly that's why? | 11:17 |
| jelkner | in the future, we need to roll these changes out in stages | 11:17 |
| jelkner | we have a draft sight | 11:17 |
| jelkner | we ask the members to a meeting | 11:17 |
| jelkner | and we discuss it there | 11:17 |
| jelkner | only when we get their approval do we put it into production | 11:18 |
| jelkner | let me look at SJC | 11:18 |
| zOnny | jelkner: understood | 11:18 |
| zOnny | jelkner: I can revert it for now | 11:18 |
| jelkner | i like the way kei and tony look | 11:18 |
| jelkner | i think we should make all of us look like that | 11:19 |
| jelkner | black and white, blue background | 11:19 |
| jelkner | white outline | 11:19 |
| jelkner | oh, and we are missing nana | 11:20 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, this will be a real lesson for you | 11:20 |
| jelkner | the "Website / Django" side of our business will require real design skills | 11:20 |
| jelkner | that is a whole area of knowledge completely separate from the coding and system management side | 11:21 |
| jelkner | it is about art, beauty, fonts, layouts, colors | 11:21 |
| jelkner | we will need a big team when we are successful | 11:23 |
| jelkner | and Jetro will need to recruit someone with these kinds of skills | 11:23 |
| jelkner | you can't just pick them up because someone tells you too | 11:23 |
| jelkner | good designers see the world that way | 11:23 |
| jelkner | they are the kids that can't help but draw when they are little | 11:24 |
| jelkner | i don't know if the University of Liberia campus near our office has an art program | 11:24 |
| jelkner | if it does, we would want to look there for a possible recruit | 11:24 |
| jelkner | that might be good, zOnny | 11:26 |
| jelkner | so we can do this right | 11:26 |
| jelkner | we have approval for the update to the team page | 11:26 |
| jelkner | so do that | 11:26 |
| jelkner | with the old design | 11:26 |
| zOnny | jelkner: sounds good | 11:26 |
| jelkner | then let's work with nana to figure out how to roll out the design update as a draft that we can see | 11:26 |
| jelkner | but isn't public until we go through the collective process of reviewing it | 11:27 |
| jelkner | we want nana at that meeting for sure | 11:27 |
| jelkner | and please add her to the team | 11:27 |
| zOnny | jelkner: will do | 11:27 |
| jelkner | let me check out SJC | 11:27 |
| jelkner | No change :-( | 11:28 |
| jelkner | comrades, i am the only real customer at this point for SJC | 11:28 |
| jelkner | so you can go ahead with that change without the slower collective process | 11:28 |
| jelkner | we have a board, and in the future they will want to approve changes | 11:28 |
| jelkner | but for now, since we need this for the donation campaign | 11:29 |
| jelkner | and since i am paying for it, and since we still don't have a properly functioning board | 11:29 |
| jelkner | i'll take the risk and just make the decision myself on this site for now | 11:29 |
| jelkner | so can you please work on that one today? | 11:30 |
| zOnny | jelkner: what change you are looking for? | 11:30 |
| jelkner | oh, my bad | 11:30 |
| jelkner | it is on may first | 11:30 |
| jelkner | and it is bilingual | 11:31 |
| jelkner | you can send an invoice for that! | 11:31 |
| jelkner | only one thing you didn't do | 11:31 |
| jelkner | remove the broken link | 11:31 |
| jelkner | gettogher now longer exists | 11:31 |
| jelkner | look what happens when you click on that link | 11:31 |
| zOnny | which broken link? | 11:31 |
| zOnny | I did removed | 11:32 |
| jelkner | i still see it | 11:32 |
| zOnny | jelkner: are you seen the update? | 11:32 |
| jelkner | now | 11:32 |
| jelkner | i just loaded sjcompute.org in my browser | 11:32 |
| zOnny | delete the cachin probably | 11:32 |
| jelkner | i don't think so | 11:32 |
| jelkner | since ÚNETE A NOSOTROS EN: Getogether | 11:33 |
| jelkner | didn't exist before ;-) | 11:33 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: are you seen the connect with us as well? | 11:33 |
| thomasboimah | it is working for me | 11:33 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: what is working? | 11:33 |
| jelkner | lol | 11:33 |
| jelkner | i was about to ask the same thing | 11:33 |
| thomasboimah | the Getogether link | 11:34 |
| jelkner | no it isn't | 11:34 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: I did removed | 11:34 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: it was a broken link | 11:34 |
| jelkner | it is going to a domain available page | 11:34 |
| zOnny | as for now what I see in the sjcompute link | 11:34 |
| thomasboimah | I am still seeing it | 11:34 |
| jelkner | anyway, the site now needs some design lvoe | 11:34 |
| jelkner | love | 11:34 |
| zOnny | is just "Home" and "about us" | 11:34 |
| jelkner | so here's what you need to do: | 11:34 |
| jelkner | 1. Really remove that link | 11:35 |
| jelkner | 2. Send an invoice from NOVA Web to SJC | 11:35 |
| jelkner | 3. Setup a meeting with Nana and me to talk about a design upgrade | 11:35 |
| jelkner | i'll invite any interested board members to that meeting | 11:36 |
| jelkner | can we make it for next saturday? | 11:36 |
| jelkner | i'll be home all day | 11:36 |
| jelkner | gotta go | 11:36 |
| jelkner | i have breakfast with sahnun at 8 am | 11:36 |
| jelkner | i'll rejoin when i return | 11:36 |
| jelkner | this is great | 11:36 |
| jelkner | progress | 11:36 |
| jelkner | be back in about 90 minutes... | 11:36 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off | 11:37 |
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| zOnny | thomasboimah: I'm confused | 11:37 |
| zOnny | http://tmpfiles.org/dl/30075428/screenshot2026-03-22at7.35.16am.png | 11:37 |
| zOnny | I don't know why you and jelkner still see that option | 11:38 |
| thomasboimah | That is the samething i am seeing. I tough you was talking about the Gettogether link in the footer | 11:38 |
| thomasboimah | All good the just clean up my cache | 11:39 |
| thomasboimah | All good I just clean up my cache | 11:39 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: ah from about us | 11:39 |
| zOnny | I see | 11:39 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: I didn't noticed it | 11:39 |
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| zOnny | thomasboimah: are you here | 11:48 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 11:49 |
| zOnny | Sorry I stepped away for making my coffee | 11:49 |
| thomasboimah | no worrie | 11:50 |
| thomasboimah | *worries | 11:50 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: give few minutes | 11:52 |
| zOnny | I'm reverting the novawebdev | 11:52 |
| thomasboimah | okay | 11:53 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: this is actually a good experience for you | 12:28 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: this is when you have to be ready when you need to revert changes | 12:28 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: That is why tags are very important | 12:29 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: they can save you a lot of time | 12:29 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: however, with LO isn't that easy | 12:29 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: since we depend in the LO old version as well | 12:30 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: when I checkout to novawebdevelopment_v3.0 tag | 12:30 |
| zOnny | i tag it when it was using Bootstrap4 | 12:30 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: so now libreorganize is using bootstrap5 | 12:31 |
| zOnny | so few things do not respond accordigly | 12:31 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: but it is just updating it in a new branch | 12:32 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: do not update tags | 12:32 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: tags are like the backups that hold history, they are not meant to be update | 12:33 |
| thomasboimah | great | 12:33 |
| zOnny | you can do your updates checking out from that tag to a new branch | 12:33 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: did you send me a private chat | 12:34 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: I reloaded my tab sorry | 12:35 |
| thomasboimah | Yes, I just telling you that i saw the invite | 12:35 |
| thomasboimah | *was | 12:35 |
| zOnny | ah | 12:35 |
| zOnny | the Harvest? | 12:35 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 12:35 |
| zOnny | let's talk about it in a bit | 12:35 |
| zOnny | I'm almost done | 12:35 |
| thomasboimah | okay | 12:36 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: I will need your help with our team page | 13:00 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: it seems so much html tags and css around each member | 13:00 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: it is killing me to get it organize | 13:01 |
| thomasboimah | okay, have you push the revert change now? | 13:04 |
| zOnny | I'm about to | 13:05 |
| zOnny | I have no idea how they have done that | 13:06 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: how long its being that we haven't updated LO in novwebdev? | 13:22 |
| thomasboimah | maybe a month and half | 13:23 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: sorry I was in a call with Jeff | 13:53 |
| thomasboimah | no problem | 13:54 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: I'm done updating it | 14:04 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION going to pull | 14:04 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: tony's pic is broken | 14:06 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: feel free to update it | 14:06 |
| zOnny | also add yours and dcamue | 14:06 |
| thomasboimah | You push to this: novawebdevelopment branch right? | 14:07 |
| zOnny | no | 14:08 |
| thomasboimah | Where did you push? | 14:08 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: there is a branch named novawebdevelopment_v3.0-updates | 14:08 |
| thomasboimah | got you | 14:09 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: that branch references to the novawebdevelopment_v3.0 tag | 14:09 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: quick fix since you are in that branch | 14:10 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: can you fix the .org for .coop | 14:10 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: in the email contact? | 14:11 |
| thomasboimah | Okay | 14:11 |
| thomasboimah | done | 14:15 |
| thomasboimah | I just push to the branch | 14:16 |
| thomasboimah | you can pull it to the server | 14:16 |
| zOnny | https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/libreorganize-customization/libreorganize-themes/-/commit/8a3fc77a5c2b5be0805e84ac64cb87c68c3b79df#line_2ef29d013_A33 | 14:16 |
| thomasboimah | ? | 14:17 |
| zOnny | that still has a .org | 14:17 |
| thomasboimah | I just fix it | 14:18 |
| thomasboimah | check it out i make a push | 14:18 |
| zOnny | ok | 14:20 |
| thomasboimah | https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/libreorganize-customization/libreorganize-themes/-/commit/51c4084112898e250496a95669c1d389f84ee33f | 14:24 |
| thomasboimah | zOnny, | 14:27 |
| zOnny | great | 14:27 |
| thomasboimah | You did not add yourself to the team page. why? | 14:27 |
| zOnny | thanks thomasboimah | 14:28 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: no | 14:28 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: I was struggling getting it to work | 14:28 |
| thomasboimah | Okay do you want me to add you | 14:29 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: I just kept the members that are active | 14:29 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: I did remove the ones that are already gone | 14:29 |
| thomasboimah | zOnny, do you know why Anthony lives now | 14:31 |
| thomasboimah | I want to fix his position and location | 14:31 |
| thomasboimah | He is nova web Software Developer right? | 14:31 |
| zOnny | he is the lead develope | 14:32 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: as far I know he lives in pittsburgh PA | 14:34 |
| thomasboimah | Okay thanks | 14:34 |
| thomasboimah | What about you also | 14:34 |
| thomasboimah | where did you live? | 14:34 |
| zOnny | I live in Alexandria VA | 14:36 |
| zOnny | 20 min away from Jeff's place | 14:36 |
| thomasboimah | zOnny, Do you how we can make our photo (zOnny, daniel and thomas) like Jeff and the others | 14:37 |
| thomasboimah | Or we should just leave it like that for now | 14:37 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: that is why we need a graphic designer | 14:38 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: I think nana did make that design | 14:38 |
| zOnny | I will send her our pics | 14:38 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: so she can update it same as jelkner and the rest of the novawebdev team | 14:39 |
| thomasboimah | Okay | 14:39 |
| thomasboimah | So I will leave it like that for now | 14:39 |
| thomasboimah | right? | 14:39 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: right | 14:39 |
| jelkner | Hey zOnny and thomasboimah | 14:39 |
| thomasboimah | Hi jelkner | 14:39 |
| zOnny | hi jelkner | 14:40 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, we need to work with dcammue and jkollie | 14:40 |
| zOnny | jelkner: we got the the website back to the previous design | 14:40 |
| jelkner | nice | 14:41 |
| jelkner | now add the agreeed upon our team members | 14:41 |
| zOnny | jelkner: we are just fixing the team members | 14:41 |
| jelkner | cool | 14:41 |
| jelkner | can you make them in the style of the other ones? | 14:41 |
| zOnny | jelkner: who is in the team? | 14:42 |
| zOnny | jelkner: the pics? | 14:42 |
| jelkner | b&w with light blue background and white boarder? | 14:42 |
| jelkner | yes | 14:42 |
| jelkner | you know who the team is, yes? | 14:42 |
| zOnny | jelkner: that is a post edit, I think nana did it | 14:42 |
| jelkner | she did | 14:42 |
| jelkner | but if we don't have her, we need to try to learn to do these things on our own | 14:43 |
| zOnny | jelkner: +1 | 14:43 |
| zOnny | Agree | 14:43 |
| jelkner | gimp will easily allow you to convert a color image into a b&w one | 14:43 |
| jelkner | the white boarder i don't know how to do | 14:43 |
| zOnny | or we need to find another designer in the Jetro Team | 14:43 |
| jelkner | btw, please ask nana directly if she wants to be on the "Our Team" page | 14:44 |
| jelkner | if she says yes, that's a sign she wants to work with us | 14:44 |
| zOnny | jelkner: will do | 14:44 |
| jelkner | it could really help her business | 14:44 |
| zOnny | jelkner: right | 14:44 |
| jelkner | since we are going to be "out there" now | 14:44 |
| jelkner | so it would get her exposure | 14:44 |
| jelkner | but only if she is available | 14:44 |
| jelkner | i added the meeting to our calendar, zOnny | 14:44 |
| zOnny | jelkner: nice | 14:44 |
| zOnny | ACTION is going to check | 14:45 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, i don't know if zOnny updated you on the phone conversation we just had? | 14:45 |
| jelkner | where i talked so loud zOnny won't be able to hear properly for a week :-( | 14:45 |
| thomasboimah | Not yet | 14:45 |
| jelkner | zOnny, do you want to do that? | 14:45 |
| jelkner | zOnny? | 14:46 |
| zOnny | jelkner: go for it | 14:46 |
| zOnny | jelkner: I was looking for the event | 14:46 |
| jelkner | actually, i would prefer if you did | 14:46 |
| jelkner | since then i'll be able to judge whether i was understood ;-) | 14:46 |
| jelkner | oh nice, SJC just got a $500 check | 14:47 |
| jelkner | first time a donation came in of that size that jelkner didn't contribute | 14:47 |
| jelkner | that's important | 14:47 |
| jelkner | if we want to raise the $3-4K monthly revenue that Jetro will need to be a successful business | 14:48 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: jelkner had a breakfast with Shannon and he did update me about his conversation | 14:48 |
| jelkner | Sahnun | 14:48 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: Sahnun :) | 14:48 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: but jelkner did mention what they have for breaskfast | 14:49 |
| zOnny | **didn't** | 14:49 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: so besides that | 14:50 |
| jelkner | lol | 14:50 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: Sahnun seems very interested to be part of the dev team | 14:50 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: Sahnun seems to have front-end development skills that he is willing to bring and connect with us | 14:51 |
| zOnny | jelkner: correct me me if I'm wrong please | 14:52 |
| thomasboimah | It is good to hear that Sahnun is interested to join the team | 14:52 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: so before he moves to Africa, jelkner and Sahnun agreed on giving it a shot | 14:53 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: so jelkner and I agreed to bring him onboard with the SJC redesign | 14:55 |
| jelkner | yup, that's about it | 14:55 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: that is what this meeting is about | 14:55 |
| jelkner | with only two more things to add about the process | 14:55 |
| jelkner | +1 | 14:56 |
| zOnny | jelkner: go ahead | 14:56 |
| thomasboimah | Nice! | 14:56 |
| jelkner | our NOVA Web operating agreement describes the process by which new members are added. | 14:56 |
| jelkner | We used to have that linked from our website | 14:56 |
| jelkner | under https://novawebdevelopment.coop/documents i believe | 14:57 |
| thomasboimah | Sahnun I have teach me before when i was learning python, So it is great to hear that he will be joining us | 14:57 |
| jelkner | that will be one of my user stories i think | 14:57 |
| jelkner | hold on, thomasboimah, since this is a "teachable moment" for you | 14:57 |
| jelkner | since you all at Jetro will need to think about this within the next year or so | 14:58 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION thomasboimah is listening attentively | 14:58 |
| jelkner | Wow, I can't find our operating agreement! | 15:00 |
| jelkner | https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment | 15:01 |
| jelkner | it should be here | 15:01 |
| jelkner | maybe it's on codeberg? | 15:01 |
| zOnny | jelkner: codeberg | 15:01 |
| jelkner | do you know where? | 15:02 |
| jelkner | i don't have a NOVA Group on codeberg | 15:02 |
| jelkner | maybe nextcloud | 15:02 |
| jelkner | i bet that's it | 15:02 |
| jelkner | let me look thre | 15:02 |
| jelkner | there | 15:02 |
| zOnny | https://share.google/FihihvRtEPcgOGwFh I found this | 15:03 |
| zOnny | not sure if it is updated | 15:04 |
| jelkner | Nope! We don't google anymore ;-) | 15:04 |
| jelkner | https://share.mayfirst.org/s/SRQBfgAba32GCbc | 15:04 |
| jelkner | this is the latest | 15:04 |
| jelkner | We want to this to be public | 15:05 |
| jelkner | but i don't think we want to link it directly off the website homepage or anything | 15:05 |
| zOnny | jhttps://www.elkner.net/ it is there as well | 15:05 |
| jelkner | ah yes, i did put it there | 15:05 |
| jelkner | i'm old, and my mind is become very confused | 15:05 |
| jelkner | that's why i need to keep things simple | 15:06 |
| jelkner | ok, anyway, thomasboimah | 15:06 |
| zOnny | jelkner: thomasboimah will help us to remember in the near future | 15:06 |
| jelkner | you should read that operating agreement | 15:06 |
| jelkner | until you need it, it sounds like so much blah, blah, blah | 15:06 |
| thomasboimah | oaky | 15:06 |
| jelkner | that it might be challenging to maintain your interest | 15:07 |
| jelkner | but now, when we have a decision to make, you can begin to see why it matters | 15:07 |
| jelkner | it defines the "rules" by which your cooperative operates | 15:07 |
| jelkner | Section 10, Adding Members, is what we are talking about now | 15:08 |
| jelkner | a. | 15:09 |
| jelkner | The person interested in becoming a member of the Cooperative will be presented by | 15:09 |
| jelkner | one of the Members as a "Candidate Member" and with majority approval will begin a | 15:09 |
| jelkner | period of candidate membership lasting six months, during which the Candidate | 15:09 |
| jelkner | Member can participate in all activities of the Cooperative except voting on | 15:09 |
| jelkner | Cooperative decisions as defined by this agreement. | 15:09 |
| jelkner | b. | 15:09 |
| jelkner | At the end of the six month candidate membership, a Candidate Member wishing to | 15:09 |
| jelkner | become a member of the Cooperative will state their desire to become a Member at a | 15:09 |
| jelkner | membership meeting, and obtain the approval of two thirds of the Members to join | 15:09 |
| jelkner | their ranks | 15:09 |
| jelkner | c. | 15:09 |
| jelkner | Having achieved a two thirds approval to join the Cooperative, the Candidate Member | 15:10 |
| jelkner | must agree to contribute either $5000.00 or 100 hours of labor to the Cooperative, | 15:10 |
| jelkner | upon completion of which this agreement will be modified to add their name to the list | 15:10 |
| jelkner | of Members and they will be a Member in full standing as defined in this agreement. | 15:10 |
| jelkner | and, i'm SO glad, since i forgot we thought about this! | 15:10 |
| jelkner | d. | 15:10 |
| jelkner | A member who has left the cooperative and wishes to return can be reinstated as a | 15:10 |
| jelkner | member provided a year has elapsed since they left with a two thirds approval of the | 15:10 |
| jelkner | membership. | 15:10 |
| jelkner | that applies to zOnny and Louie | 15:10 |
| jelkner | that's so wise of us | 15:11 |
| jelkner | i wonder how we did that ;-) | 15:11 |
| jelkner | so sahnun will need to state his intention | 15:11 |
| jelkner | and begin he candidacy | 15:12 |
| jelkner | he says he wants to do that | 15:12 |
| jelkner | only tony and kei have a vote at present | 15:12 |
| jelkner | btw, you need to add "Worker/Owner" under their names only on the Our Team page | 15:13 |
| jelkner | but i told sahnun i would commit to a contract with him for 3 months when he moves to kenya on one condition | 15:14 |
| jelkner | zOnny and thomasboimah tell me to go ahead with that | 15:14 |
| jelkner | so it will be the two of you that determine if i fund the contract | 15:14 |
| jelkner | is that clear? | 15:15 |
| thomasboimah | +1! | 15:15 |
| zOnny | jelkner: fund the contract, means? | 15:15 |
| jelkner | as business people, zOnny, a contract is... | 15:16 |
| jelkner | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contract | 15:16 |
| jelkner | it is basically a legally binding agreement between two people or corporate entities | 15:17 |
| zOnny | jelkner: i get it but | 15:17 |
| jelkner | well, i said i contract with him for the 1st 3 months of his time in kenya | 15:17 |
| jelkner | that would give him the ability to work full time with us starting in the summer for 3 months | 15:18 |
| zOnny | jelkner: +1 | 15:18 |
| jelkner | but we have very limited resources | 15:18 |
| jelkner | and we need to learn to manage them | 15:18 |
| jelkner | we are doing that now | 15:18 |
| jelkner | we need to decide if it makes sense to fund that contract | 15:18 |
| jelkner | the concept of "opportunity cost" is really important here | 15:19 |
| zOnny | jelkner: It is | 15:19 |
| jelkner | if we have only X dollars, and we spend them on one thing, then that means we *can not* spend them on some other thing | 15:19 |
| zOnny | jelkner: it can be easy to implement if we have source of income while applying it | 15:20 |
| jelkner | choosing which things to spend them on is how we determine if we have a successful business | 15:20 |
| jelkner | if we make good decisions, we succeed | 15:20 |
| jelkner | if we make bad ones, we fail | 15:20 |
| jelkner | we have some income | 15:20 |
| jelkner | since i have a regular monthly surplus | 15:21 |
| jelkner | from my job | 15:21 |
| jelkner | but it is limited | 15:21 |
| jelkner | so that is exactly what i mean | 15:21 |
| zOnny | jelkner: I get it | 15:21 |
| jelkner | if we spend that on one thing, we don't have it for something else | 15:21 |
| jelkner | it's time we start thinking about this seriously | 15:21 |
| jelkner | it is a lot for the jetro folks to take on | 15:21 |
| jelkner | until now, despite my constant claims that i am not | 15:22 |
| jelkner | i have been santa clause | 15:22 |
| jelkner | a bringer of gifts | 15:22 |
| zOnny | jelkner: sounds about right | 15:22 |
| jelkner | but that can't last | 15:22 |
| jelkner | santa is old, and he can't bring any more gifts than he has been bringing | 15:22 |
| jelkner | which isn't enough to meet jetro's, much less liberia's needs | 15:23 |
| jelkner | so the plan all along is that this has been solidarity, not charity | 15:23 |
| zOnny | jelkner: that is the concern I have, if that fund ends what are the chances of sustainability | 15:23 |
| jelkner | santa wants to train the revolutionaries, who will make their own way | 15:23 |
| jelkner | zOnny, you should know, as both you especially Louie demonstrated | 15:24 |
| jelkner | we have a viable plan for jetro as soon as they can reach the level of skill that louie, stefan and adrian had | 15:24 |
| jelkner | or even just close to that | 15:24 |
| jelkner | louie ran the business | 15:24 |
| jelkner | and stefan and adrian where the product | 15:25 |
| jelkner | he brought in new customers | 15:25 |
| jelkner | and sent money to nana each month | 15:25 |
| jelkner | he brought in regular revenue | 15:25 |
| jelkner | just not enough to pay a living wage in the U.S. | 15:25 |
| jelkner | *but*, it was more than enough to pay a living wage in liberia | 15:26 |
| jelkner | so for this reboot, that is one of the two legs of the plan | 15:26 |
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| zOnny | jelkner: understood | 15:26 |
| jelkner | the other leg is the one most likely to pay living wages in the U.S. | 15:26 |
| jelkner | Decidim | 15:26 |
| zOnny | jelkner: the other leg | 15:27 |
| zOnny | jelkner: do you have an update? | 15:27 |
| jelkner | since our customers will be municipal governments who are familiar with paying living wages | 15:27 |
| jelkner | indeed, things are moving | 15:27 |
| jelkner | tony is working on a contract proposal for Next System | 15:28 |
| jelkner | if we get that contract, it will be our first "real* contract | 15:28 |
| zOnny | jelkner: great | 15:28 |
| jelkner | and we will be off to the races | 15:28 |
| jelkner | we have a meeting with guillaume on tuesday | 15:28 |
| jelkner | to get his input into the contract | 15:28 |
| jelkner | then we send it to next system, and see if they follow through | 15:29 |
| jelkner | i think they will | 15:29 |
| jelkner | but we will have to see | 15:29 |
| zOnny | jelkner: is Guillaume who will sign the contract? | 15:29 |
| jelkner | no | 15:29 |
| zOnny | jelkner: ah I see | 15:29 |
| jelkner | the contract is between next system and nova web dev | 15:29 |
| zOnny | jelkner: business to business | 15:30 |
| jelkner | nova subcontracts with octree for hosting | 15:30 |
| jelkner | that's where guillaume comes in | 15:30 |
| jelkner | he is part of the team | 15:30 |
| jelkner | but the contract is between next system and nova web dev | 15:31 |
| jelkner | is that clear? | 15:31 |
| thomasboimah | +1 | 15:31 |
| zOnny | jelkner: +1 | 15:31 |
| jelkner | okie dokie, so you two have your to-do list right? | 15:32 |
| jelkner | i've taken up a lot of your time | 15:32 |
| jelkner | we need to be able to move the work forward at the same time we are developing ourselves | 15:32 |
| zOnny | jelkner: what are the expectations after Saturday's meeting? | 15:32 |
| jelkner | that's a lot to do | 15:32 |
| jelkner | the SJC one? | 15:32 |
| zOnny | jelkner: right | 15:32 |
| jelkner | well, i am hoping SJC can hire nova web to redo it's website | 15:33 |
| jelkner | but nova web needs someone who can do front end design | 15:33 |
| zOnny | jelkner: meaning you | 15:33 |
| jelkner | well, in practice | 15:33 |
| jelkner | but once i donate money to SJC | 15:33 |
| jelkner | it isn't my money any more | 15:33 |
| jelkner | legally the board controls it | 15:33 |
| zOnny | jelkner: once Santa do his Donation again | 15:33 |
| jelkner | santa has a surplus | 15:34 |
| jelkner | it is his duty to share it | 15:34 |
| jelkner | it's just we need more | 15:34 |
| jelkner | so much more | 15:34 |
| zOnny | jelkner: I get it | 15:34 |
| jelkner | we need "we the people" to democratically control our social surplus | 15:35 |
| jelkner | no more santas, and no more rich ass holes telling us what can and can't be done! | 15:35 |
| zOnny | jelkner: let's get things moving then | 15:35 |
| jelkner | +1 | 15:35 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, see you tomorrow at our stand up | 15:35 |
| jelkner | i'll be emailing this afternoon | 15:36 |
| thomasboimah | Okay you too | 15:36 |
| jelkner | by for now | 15:36 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off | 15:36 |
| zOnny | jelkner: leave the bag of gravel | 15:36 |
| jelkner | jelkner, drops the bag of gravel | 15:36 |
| jelkner | ACTION drops the bag of gravel | 15:36 |
| jelkner | zOnny, it is *so* good to have you back! | 15:36 |
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| zOnny | jelkner: well, I hope we can make this hapen | 15:37 |
| zOnny | alright thomasboimah | 15:37 |
| zOnny | I never thought I will be chatting with Santa on IRC :) | 15:38 |
| thomasboimah | lol | 15:38 |
| thomasboimah | zOnny, you been part on nova web since when | 15:38 |
| thomasboimah | ? | 15:38 |
| thomasboimah | I need to place it on the site | 15:38 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: I don't remember | 15:38 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: I think 2019? | 15:39 |
| thomasboimah | I need to place it on the site | 15:39 |
| thomasboimah | So Kei meet you there right? | 15:39 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: no | 15:39 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: Kei was with nova in 2019? | 15:40 |
| thomasboimah | But on the site it says Kei been member since 2023 | 15:40 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: I didn't meet Kei | 15:40 |
| zOnny | I met Kei once I got back | 15:41 |
| thomasboimah | So what should i place there? | 15:41 |
| thomasboimah | Because i am confuse | 15:41 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: on my Bio? | 15:42 |
| thomasboimah | Should i go with 2023 for all | 15:42 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 15:42 |
| thomasboimah | After the position | 15:42 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: just put member/owner that is all for Kei and Tony | 15:43 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: I don't think the year matters for now | 15:43 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: we can get it updated later | 15:43 |
| thomasboimah | Okay | 15:43 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: for me just but Web Developer | 15:44 |
| zOnny | *put* | 15:44 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: I will be heading out at 12 today | 15:45 |
| zOnny | I need to pick my dad | 15:45 |
| thomasboimah | Okay me too my computer is run down and no current at my apartment | 15:45 |
| thomasboimah | *running | 15:45 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: after you push those changes | 15:45 |
| zOnny | I will work on the pics to get it as similar as possible\ | 15:46 |
| thomasboimah | Okay will soon push | 15:46 |
| thomasboimah | zOnny, | 15:46 |
| zOnny | yes? | 15:46 |
| thomasboimah | Should i put Book Keeper or Accountant for Daniel? | 15:46 |
| thomasboimah | His is not here for me to ask him | 15:47 |
| thomasboimah | zOnny, do you have a linkedin account | 15:47 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: Treasurer | 15:48 |
| zOnny | https://www.linkedin.com/in/edzon-quinteros-8a704b160/ | 15:49 |
| thomasboimah | Thanks | 15:50 |
| thomasboimah | zOnny, I just push | 15:57 |
| zOnny | ACTION is puulling the changes | 15:57 |
| thomasboimah | zOnny, i just added my linkedin account a push again | 16:00 |
| zOnny | ok | 16:03 |
| zOnny | it worksfor me | 16:04 |
| zOnny | pulling it into the server | 16:04 |
| zOnny | alright thomasboimah | 16:06 |
| zOnny | it is there | 16:06 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: thank you for your help | 16:07 |
| thomasboimah | all good | 16:07 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: can you help mulbah with the broken links | 16:07 |
| thomasboimah | Sure | 16:07 |
| thomasboimah | I will do that | 16:07 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: great thank you | 16:07 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: jeff did mention that the redesign that I came with needs to be hosted as a demo somewhere | 16:08 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: so the members vote and decide if they want it or keep the old one | 16:09 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: Will catch up with that next time with you | 16:10 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: I got to go | 16:10 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: do you have any questions? | 16:10 |
| thomasboimah | -1 | 16:11 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: see you next time | 16:11 |
| zOnny | ACTION signs off for the day | 16:11 |
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| thomasboimah | Okay you to z | 16:11 |
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