IRC log of #novawebdev for Wednesday, 2026-04-15

zOnnyresl: The username mix-up fix needs to go through May First's admin/support team.00:06
zOnnyresl: you may need to contact mayfirst asking to remove your personal username from the NWDC NextCloud instance.00:09
zOnnyresl: and add the correct NWDC username in its place00:10
zOnnyresl: and get the accounts untangled00:11
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zOnnyresl: The username mix-up fix needs to go through May First's admin/support team.00:14
reslIt looks like it might have just been because my private account username was added to the NOVASEN group before I joined NWDC. I removed the old user from the group as my NWDC user account was added already. It looks like that fixed it 00:24
reslGood. I knew that didn't make sense that my personal May First account would be tangled with NWDC - Cool. Nothing was too tangled.00:26
reslSorry for the false alarm there.00:27
zOnnyresl: glad you figured it out00:39
reslzOnny, logged into the novaweb site - this is our (mostly unused?) LibreOrganize instance for the co-op, right?00:52
zOnnyresl: right00:52
zOnnyresl: that color design needs to be fixed 00:53
reslWow, these features look really useful though... There's a vote feature with options for majority or ranked choice? Nice!00:53
zOnnyresl: it color the cards badly00:53
zOnnyresl: it looks better when the cards don't have that color00:54
reslYeah, let's change the colors. The others are okay with you making changes to the site content and UI, right?00:55
zOnnyresl: yes00:55
reslI have found a few small typos and was going to ask if I should send them to you or Tony. I can fix them if I have permissions but defer to you.00:56
resl "If you have sticter" --> "If you have stricter" for example, that kind of typo00:56
zOnnyresl: ah00:56
zOnnywhere is it?00:56
reslunder "Technologies" heading on the landing page00:57
zOnnyresl: I see00:59
zOnnyresl: thomas has been tasked to change the content into boxes00:59
reslOh, cool, okay. I'll bug Thomas about it then haha. I can also report typos as issues in Gitlab if that is most helpful.00:59
zOnnyresl: this means that boxes use ckeditor, which means user can update and edit the content00:59
reslNice01:00
reslI found them01:00
zOnnyresl: I think he didn't changed the homepage but he did change the our team page only01:01
zOnnyresl: if you go to our team and click on the pen01:03
zOnnyresl: you are aable to edit the content01:03
zOnnyresl: it should be enabled in the whole website01:03
zOnnyresl: I will let' him know about it on the weekend01:04
reslSo if I upload files into "files" those just become accessible on the server, right? But I can't create a new box yet perhaps? I'll wait to meet with Thomas if needed. No rush.01:06
zOnnyresl: yes01:09
zOnnyresl: one thing that we at novawebdevelopment decided what not allow the users create boxes01:10
zOnnyresl: we the developers can create them and allow the users change it01:10
zOnnyresl: that is the libreorganize limitation01:10
reslNice, that sounds good01:10
zOnnyresl: however, that can change if users find themselves restricted01:11
zOnnyresl: it was a 5 years ago that decision was made01:12
zOnnyresl: we are living in times where users want to have full control of their websites01:13
zOnnyresl: this is what libreorganize is: https://libreorganize.org/01:14
zOnnyresl: we don't have documentation neither01:15
zOnnyresl: we all of us were mostly web developers at that time01:16
reslIt's good that there are different levels of permissions. If the current admins including you and Thomas trust me not to touch and break things other than what is helpful for me to touch, I can do little things to help but no rush. Even if you and Thomas decide it's safe to give me more permissions there, I can probably even add them through the NWDC May First libreorganize hosting order control panel - in case that is also extra work 01:16
reslthat might be distracting to add to your plates. I will be helping get documentation happening nicely asap, but will hopefully do so in a smooth way that does not disrupt things and fits into existing work styles.01:16
zOnnyresl: that is what we need at this point01:18
zOnnyresl: dogfooding and start with documentation01:19
zOnnyresl: we as developers can think that is ok the way it is, but on the users end it isn't the same story01:20
zOnnyresl: I think you helping us out with Business Tracker and LibreOrganize could be a huge help01:21
zOnnyresl: those two are our core projects01:21
reslUnderstood. I am gathering information, consolidating things, and tying up loose ends slowly but surely. For example, Kei and I are looking at how we might switch from BitWarden to KeePassXC and allow user-specific access to needed logins for members by keeping the current database on the NWDC May First PostgreSQL01:21
zOnnyresl: great01:22
zOnnyresl: LibreOrganize could be a great tool for organizing people01:22
zOnnyresl: but also work as a simple CMS for those who are looking websites01:23
reslIt feels good to be able to help where I can on this team, so good to hear. Yeah, I feel Jeff might have been a bit modest when describing LibreOrganize to me at first. It's pretty cool, seeing it as a user now.01:24
zOnnyresl: Glad to know that01:24
zOnnyresl: It definitely could be improved01:26
reslHe didn't say anything bad about it but it sounded like at some point, when Decidim came along, the team felt perhaps LibreOrganize might be redundant or less useful than Decidim. It is quite different though so I think it could be very useful for us and others. The calendar feature I would like to check out closely and talk to you about as soon as we meet again.01:26
reslDo you know Janet Kollie well or have you worked with her on any projects yet? I see she is focused partly on Decidim? I'll try to meet with her soon. I also want to check out the Decidim calendar more closely. 01:27
zOnnyresl: This idea came from my colleagues (Stefan and Adrian) to build something we have total control and modeled according the users needs01:28
reslNice01:28
zOnnyresl: I haven't work with Janet closely yet01:29
zOnny**worked01:29
zOnnyresl: keep in mind if you like Dicidim's calendar better, we can update our calendar to work the same way01:30
reslIt looks like maybe I have permissions to edit existing Boxes on the NWDC site, but just cannot create new Boxes. For now, I would like to make the grammar consistent between the bios but I'll bring it up once we meet as a group for approval.01:31
zOnnyresl: +101:31
reslzOnny: NextCloud's calendar is what I think we want to model the others after, to the extent that the content can be shared, imported, and exported in formats that work for most FOSS calendars.01:32
zOnnyresl: that is why I did ask you to create that project01:33
reslYes! That's right - you and I already discussed this.01:34
reslI have not been keeping time in BT because I still want to better understand the current working processes for the cooperative - but I know the records are changeable so perhaps I should just use them liberally to get used to the interface.01:36
reslHave you created events in the LibreOrganize? I'm curious where those appear once created. I'll watch more of the demos of the software - sorry for the many questions/messages today.01:38
zOnnyresl: feel free to create an event01:38
zOnnyresl: you can delete it later01:38
zOnnyresl: we can modeled it according to the users need such as where to it appear or display after creating it01:39
zOnnyresl: Calendar sync with Nextcloud can be done in two ways01:42
zOnnyresl: through CalDAV or Public ICS subscription URL01:43
zOnnyresl: FYI: Libreorganize currently exports events as ICS (django-ical via EventFeed in  apps/events/utils.py) but has no way to ingest an external calendar.01:46
zOnnyresl: got to go01:51
reslzOnny ok good to know. CalDAV is what I know better. Ok ttyl01:51
reslThank you01:51
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reslanthony_p, Mornin! See you on jitsi in a min14:00
resljelkner, good morning! (FYI I know what you meant by "block" now - from Agile!)14:00
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reslanthony_p, Instead of waiting for THomas to update the novaweb site to add new people Jeff suggested it is ok if I go in and add myself so I'm visible to clients now. Might need to give myself permissions to do that via May First hosting order for novaweb site but lmk if you prefer to do that.16:48
reslOr if you can just add a few boxes I can then add the content with my current permissions. But can't add boxes yet.17:08

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