IRC log of #novawebdev for Tuesday, 2026-04-21

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resljelkner: the May First meeting that is today from 1-2, that's not the one you are going to, right?16:21
resljelkner: maybe it is, actually - it is the "Team Reports" meeting, so I will gladly report for NWD if that's today. These things will be on our shared calendar more consistently asap, too.16:31
jelknerno resl 16:31
resljelkner: ok, gotcha.16:32
jelkneri'm attending only the annual meeting16:32
jelknerno time for the others16:32
resljelkner: got it. Understood16:32
reslThank you16:32
jelknernp16:32
jelknerlol, resl, the only meeting i have time for today is my very important fosspay setup at 2 pm! ;-)16:39
jelknerand it's so great to have someone besides me attending may first meetings16:40
jelknerthey rock!16:40
jelkneri'm on the outreach committee16:40
jelknerso i attend the monthly outreach meetings16:40
reslThat's right! Excellent.17:06
resljelkner: I'm re: fosspay. I told Tony this already but basically, you should be able to get other work done during the 2-5 chunk of time as long as you are somewhat reachable in case we need your stamp on something where you've been holding the responsibility - you know what I mean. Note at some point in the not too distant future, I think we'll have things set up so that you won't be left "holding the bag" figuratively or 17:12
reslstructurally, that we'll be able to give you a vacation even lol - but we'll get there in due time, and when safe for everyone, including the most vulnerable among us. If that was incomprehensible, just never mind it for now - I am thinking out loud a bit.17:12
reslI'm excited re: fosspay*17:12
reslanthony_p, I'm gonna jump on our nwd jitsi now if you wanna get started talking there17:52
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jelknerhttps://codeberg.org/jelkner/SolidarityEconomyNotes/src/branch/main/Sociocracy18:22
zOnnyanthony_p: Are you in?18:23
anthony_pyes18:24
zOnnyanthony_p: cool18:25
zOnnyjelkner: Are you home?18:25
anthony_pi'm looking at the directory with all the web apps18:25
zOnnyanthony_p: the LibreOrganize web apps?18:26
anthony_pthe directory with the little-webster, novawebdev, etc18:26
zOnnyanthony_p: ah18:26
anthony_pi see all the apps hosted on the server18:26
zOnnyanthony_p: yes, but most of those apps aren't serving from that server18:27
anthony_pare they there as backups?18:27
zOnnyanthony_p: no18:28
zOnnyanthony_p: we were trying to migrate them from linode18:28
zOnnyanthony_p: but mayfirst has some limitations 18:28
zOnnyanthony_p: like little-webster it needs specific ports to work properly18:28
zOnnyanthony_p: which mayfirst has block them for security reasons18:29
anthony_pwhat is active on the mayfirst server?18:29
anthony_pis the actual libreorganize site there?18:29
zOnnyanthony_p: from what I see the novawebdev is the only active there18:30
zOnnyanthony_p: Not sure why the other web apps are there like php5?18:31
zOnnyanthony_p: I'm not fully aware of them18:31
zOnnyanthony_p: It should be a question for thomas18:31
zOnnyanthony_p: or for anyone who was working with that server previously18:32
zOnnyjelkner: Aren't you at school at this time?18:33
anthony_pokay, thanks zonny18:33
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thomasboimahHello everyone18:39
reslhey thomasboimah 18:39
reslthomasboimah: we are figuring out how to set up a vm maybe on our May First server space so we can use our May First server space to host fosspay18:40
thomasboimahThat's good to know. which membership are you planning to host that on?18:41
thomasboimahnovawebdev, sjcompute or secosol?18:41
reslthomasboimah novawebdev18:42
reslfosspay would be for receiving novawebdev donations via Stripe from people wanting to donate one time online18:42
thomasboimahNice! You have all the info you need right? like, credential?18:42
thomasboimahYeah you share this, on Sunday:  https://sr.ht/~sircmpwn/fosspay/18:43
thomasboimahI will be here to help. if anything18:44
reslthomasboimah Yes, or rather - zonny showed us how he ssh's onto the novawebdev server and tony added his public key to the server access in the hosting order on May First, and now tony has ssh access, but for now we are learning how to navigate the environment and figuring out how best to go about setting up a vm or what would be best to do the setup inside of on the server18:44
reslthomasboimah Do you know if libreorganize is in debug mode?18:45
thomasboimahlibreorganize is in production. so debug is assign to false.18:46
anthony_pis the novawebdevelopment.coop libreorganize actually running on the mayfirst server? because i'm not seeing any libre office environment variables there and it defaults to Debug mode if there are no environment variables?18:58
anthony_pi don't see any environment variables defining the database credentials either18:59
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anthony_pit appears that either the libreorganize site on the mayfirst server is either using sqlite3 in debug mode as far as i can tell, and not postgresql19:09
thomasboimahLibreorganize is on the novawebdev membership, but we create different hosting order for it.19:12
thomasboimah*created19:12
anthony_pnot the libreorganize website, the libreorganize instance that is running the novawebdevelopment.coop site19:13
thomasboimahit was when we where trying to do this:  https://help.mayfirst.org/en/guide/how-to-create-a-new-website-in-the-control-panel19:13
thomasboimahthe novawebdevelopment.coop site is a branch in the "theme" directory on libreoganize, just like sjcompute, secosol and the others19:14
anthony_pthere are two libreorganize sites that we control, one that is just the information site for libreorganize at libreorganize.org and one that is an installed and running version of libreorganize that runs novawebdevelopment.coop19:15
thomasboimahBut when deploying we only pull the branch specific we want to deploy to the server19:15
thomasboimah*specific branch19:15
thomasboimah+119:15
anthony_pyes, but the libreorganize branch that is installed on the mayfirst hosted site that should be hosting novawebdevelopment.coop doesn't appear to have any of the environment variables necessary to run the instance in production mode, or to connect to a postgres database19:16
thomasboimahIt do exist: (venv) site315444writer@weborigin013:~/include/novawebdev/libreorganize$ nano .env 19:18
anthony_pokay19:18
anthony_pthanks19:18
thomasboimahwhile not create a new hosting order for fosspay on the novawebdev membership to work smoothly and advoid port issue. look at this on mayfirst doc: https://help.mayfirst.org/en/guide/how-to-create-a-new-website-in-the-control-panel19:20
thomasboimah*why19:21
anthony_pi am just learning the mayfirst environment19:22
thomasboimahOkay19:22
anthony_pi'll probably do that now, since i understand better how they have their shared hosting set up19:22
thomasboimahThat's good to know19:22
zOnnyresl: I'm home19:49
reslzOnny, nice - tony is still in the novaweb jitsi - jeff and I will come back soon19:49
anthony_phttps://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/fosspay19:53
reslok I think I've got everything we need - coming back onto novaweb jitsi without jeff19:58
reslanthony_p: private stuff needs your attention via our signal chat please20:01
resl^_^20:01
zOnnyhttps://killbill.io/20:18
zOnnyhttps://drewdevault.com/20:23
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