IRC log of #novawebdev for Tuesday, 2026-05-12

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Websterss   1. Check Ins (by: anthony_p)22:02
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reslNotes: For check-ins, everyone is doing reasonably well, and can stay til 7pm. 22:19
reslBusiness-wise, novawebdevelopment.coop domain issue to be discussed/resolved after this meeting22:19
reslIn the interest of time, the proposal based on the accounting report is that we agree to allocate the resources remaining after costs of operations for the next 6 months according to Kei's, Sahnun's, and Zonny's compromise agreement, where we agree that Zonny and Kei won't be able to work beyond what they are able to volunteer in "free time" until the others of us get NWD to bring in sufficient revenue.22:24
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Websterss   4. Proposal for Funds Allocation (Questions / Objections / Consent) (by: anthony_p)22:26
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reslProposal re: accounting is moved to the end so Kei can be a part of that decision.22:27
reslProposal: Sahnun be elected WordPress developer22:28
reslObjection: Sahnun should be elected Lead Front End Developer with experience in WP22:29
reslQuestion: Should we clarify better what we mean by Lead vs. non-lead? Perhaps this level of detailed role assignment should be done a bit later, once we are more established in our processes.22:29
reslProposal revision: The title works for now, and soon as we can, let's clarify more about roles and projects.22:30
reslSahnun notes that Zonny has a stronger grasp of development involved in our main tool, LibreOrganize.22:31
reslJeff notes that he feels the agenda doesn't really have a business plan.22:31
reslFacilitator reminds Jeff that there are proposals related to business planning which we postponed to the end hoping Kei ca join.22:32
reslSahnun says he is comfortable being WordPress developer.22:33
reslEveryone consents to put the decision about Sahnun's role off til later.22:33
reslProposal: Let's begin a FOSS project working with our existing cleaning co-op associates, where we take a fork of BusinessTracker, once it's in a slightly more developed state, and make it suit cleaning cooperatives' needs. Then once completed, we host an instance to provide for a monthly fee for cleaning cooperatives who don't want to self-host it.22:35
reslQuestion: Is this a project that we would intend to become a major product/significantly lucrative?22:37
reslAnswer: Not necessarily, but if the cleaning cooperatives find it useful, maybe, through subscriptions.22:38
reslReaction: It is probably important that we invest our engineering time wisely, so let's do some modeling of the numbers to see if we can predict how this might end up making money.22:39
reslReaction: If we make this a fork of BusinessTracker, this could be something we could have to offer with minimal additional work once it's ready to deploy, which also builds on our existing tools.22:41
reslSuggestion: To do this, we are going to have to find some funding source.22:41
reslNote: It might be possible for us to get some funding via our relationships with likeminded community orgs who can give us grant money because our work is aligned with their goals too. For example, VA SEN could dedicate some grant money to us and we could develop our core Django and/or Decidim competencies22:43
reslThere is <20 min left of this meeting. It seems Kei is tied up with work and cannot join us this time, but no response yet, so not sure. Proposal: Let's schedule a meeting another day this week to try again to go through this agenda with everyone?22:45
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reslJeff notes: Since we are an early start up, we must invest in our core competencies and give value to people to build a reputation. But also, object to proposal for cleaning cooperative project: Only if we can get some funding support from cleaning cooperatives, then we should do it.22:47
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reslTony notes: It's important we first reach out to cleaning cooperatives to see if this tool is something that they would want. If we can get that interest, maybe we can get some grants to do the work.22:48
reslJeff suggests: It should be Kei's job to reach out to Dulce and other folks in cleaning cooperatives to find out if there might be interest in this project. Perhaps we need to focus first on getting a grant from, for example, VA SEN 22:50
smohamudWe need to codify our red lines as far as who we choose to work with.22:50
smohamudSomething we haven't tried: find work for Daniel, Thomas by scraping Freelance websites supporting Non Profits/Coops looking for small jobs.22:51
zOnnyhttps://www.dulcehogarcleaning.com/22:51
reslTony volunteers to work on grant proposals with others who can volunteer to help.22:51
zOnnyhttps://mujeresmanosalaobra.org/22:51
smohamudBroadly: I am going through the SBA website training materials on defining our niche and appealing to our niche market - coops who want to get away from Big Tech and Closed Source exploitation-related software.22:52
reslProposal re: cleaning co-op is adjusted to start with seeking grant funding and then proceeding. No objections. Decision passed.22:53
reslThere's 7 minutes left of the meeting, so let's schedule another meeting asynchronously in the next two days to ensure Kei is part of discussing the business plan and allocation of funds. In the meantime, let's do a round of consent that we go with the "good enough for now, safe enough to try" option of trusting in the compromise between Zonny, Sahnun, Kei, and the rest of the team.22:53
reslFacilitator notes: Email sent out to members to detail the exact decision for allocation of remaining funds and the labor expected and business plan in place to get NWD generating sufficient revenue.22:55
reslProposal: The next meeting facilitator for next meeting volunteers. Sahnun volunteers.22:56
reslEveryone consents. Decision made. Sahnun will facilitate next meeting.22:56
reslCheck-outs: Tony looking forward to the grant proposal; Rachel suggests that we try to meet again before next week because Kei couldn't make it; Jeff is opposed to trying to add another meeting and suggests we just meet again on Tuesday and hopes Kei can make it; Sahnun is feeling time pressure, especially with his move to Nairobi coming up so he notes that we do have to keep moving and clarify our policies; Jeff notes that there ar23:00
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reslZonny's good. The points in the meeting have been addressed in the best possible way. He liked the inputs from everyone. He's happy with the meeting.23:02
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