IRC log of #novawebdev for Saturday, 2026-06-13

zOnnyGood morning gabriel_jetro 10:51
gabriel_jetroHow're you doing this morning zonny?10:54
gabriel_jetroSorry I missed the last meeting but thomas updated me on your request and help guide me doing it10:55
gabriel_jetrozOnny10:56
dcammueGood morning comrades10:57
gabriel_jetroGood morning dcammue10:57
gabriel_jetroI'm sorry I was unable to reach at the office yesterday and also send in my excused, my mom send me somewhere and i lost track of time that's why but i read the log10:58
jelknerYesterday i gave my last exam for the year and worked on packing up my room. Today i'll attend a community meeting with klarios who will talk about decidim, and then a social gathering of NoVASEN folks in the afternoon.10:59
jelkneroops too early10:59
jelknerACTION done10:59
jelknerlol, i hit enter by accident10:59
zOnnyThis week, I was focused on the AMS project and had some meetings with Rachel to do dogfooding of BT. Quick heads-up: I won't be able to attend the upcoming weekend meetings due to the long weekend holiday, as I'll be heading out of town with limited or not availability to connect or work remotely.11:00
thomasboimahYesterday I worked on our site (Jetro web), fixing some links and correcting info on the site. I also worked on the issue file by Resl for the Secosol site, and I have been following the development process of the Nextsystem-AMS project by checking the repo every day for changes and pulling to my machine if there are any. I will be here working with the dev team. No blockers.11:00
zOnnyACTION done11:00
thomasboimahACTION done11:00
jelknergreat11:01
jelknerzOnny, how is the NSS AMS coming?11:01
zOnnyjelkner: good so far11:01
dcammuejelkner: the reason why jkollie did not get her certificate immediately yesterday is that, the certificate is pending for verification.11:02
jelknerdcammue, thanks11:02
zOnnyjelkner: we are in a good phase of the development11:02
jelknerzOnny, when is your first customer meeting?11:02
zOnnyjelkner: besides anthony_p learning django's capabilities11:02
dcammueUpto now, I checked and it is still pending. They said she can get it in 72 hours11:02
jelknergot you11:03
jelknerthat brings me to my next topic11:03
jelknerSummer interns11:03
jelknerin addition to aaron11:03
zOnnyjelkner: not sure yet, due that we probably call one soon one we have a good standing development for testing11:03
jelknernice zOnny 11:03
jelkneri have a conversation scheduled with a VT rising junior on sunday11:04
jelknerand kara, josh and ben said they will continue to work over the summer11:04
zOnnyjelkner: what does this mean11:04
jelknerinterns provide us with opportunities to teach and learn11:05
zOnny+111:05
jelknera lot of young folks are desperate to get real world experience11:05
jelknerand the job market now is not good11:05
jelknerso over time, if we learn to manage this well11:05
zOnnyjelkner: that it should be the best way of learning with hands on real projects11:05
jelkner*exactly*!11:06
jelknerthat's what they are coming to us for11:06
zOnnyjelkner: but cautiosly11:06
mulbahGood morning to all11:06
jelknerexplain zOnny 11:06
jelknergood morning mulbah 11:06
jelkneri'm not sure about "cautiously"11:07
zOnnyjelkner: meaning giving them a real focus and development access 11:07
jelknerahh11:07
jelknerwell i'm learning proper workflow with cjones this year11:08
jelknerthe workflow should be, they fork the app, make their own changes, and submit a merge request11:08
jelknerthe dev team learns to review the changes, and to only accept them if they meet our standards11:09
jelknerand we need to have high standards11:09
jelknerbut that will take us time11:09
zOnny+111:09
zOnnyjelkner: but we all clear with tests 11:10
jelkner+111:10
zOnnyjelkner: at least they will get use to it11:10
jelknerin the longer term, if we can learn to manage effectively, internship can be real opportunities for NWD / Jetro to explore new things11:11
jelknerdcammue, i don't understand what the verification process is11:12
jelknerwe proctor our students11:12
jelknerso i have to sign in with my proctor credentials11:12
jelknerso i guess i am doing the verification for cjones's students11:12
jelknerbut jkollie's case is different11:13
jelknerthere is no proctor there11:13
jelkner10 days and i'll be in the Jetro office with y'all!11:14
jelknerok, anything else for me before i get to work?11:14
jelkneri have to grade the test i gave yesterday11:14
jelknerand finish report cards11:15
zOnnyjelkner: not from me11:15
zOnnyjelkner: when does the summer start?11:15
jelknersee you tomorrow zOnny and thomasboimah, same time, same place...11:15
thomasboimahYou too jelkner 11:15
jelknerACTION goes to do his teacher work...11:15
zOnnyalright team where are we11:16
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thomasboimahzOnny, I can see the development or Nextsystem-ams is moving nice, Thanks11:17
thomasboimahto you and Tony for that11:17
thomasboimah*of11:17
zOnnythomasboimah: thanks11:18
gabriel_jetrozOnny, you're the captain so lead...11:18
zOnnythomasboimah: we have good ground to keep developing11:18
zOnnythomasboimah: but the projects app will take a long logic reasoning 11:19
zOnnythomasboimah: anthony_p is modeling the db so it does what we think it should do11:19
thomasboimahThat's good to know11:20
zOnnythomasboimah: but the real input will come from the next system team11:20
zOnnythomasboimah: sometimes what developers think is not always accure11:20
zOnnysorry that I haven't get much focus on our real core projects11:21
zOnnymy full time job is keeping me busy during the week11:22
thomasboimahnp11:23
zOnnythomasboimah: gabriel_jetro thanks for updating the secosol systemd functionality11:23
zOnnythomasboimah: last past two days the site was down11:23
zOnnywhen I started looking into what was the real cause, I figure that the postgres wasn't there11:24
thomasboimahwhich one of the site secosol?11:25
zOnnyyes11:25
thomasboimahTony been working on setting up guncash postgres database for secosol maybe that is why it was down I think11:25
zOnnygot it11:26
thomasboimahon Mayfirst11:26
zOnnyanyway we should not focus on the who broke it 11:26
thomasboimahyeah11:27
zOnnylast tuesday in our nwd meeting we talk about worflows and tasks management11:27
zOnnyI raised up that I cannot be the single point of failure11:27
thomasboimahI lost track of the time so i was not able to attend the meeting11:27
zOnnyI don't mind fixing any issue we encounter 11:28
zOnnybut that doesn't lead us to team development11:28
zOnnythat is why I requested rels to assign issues to others 11:29
zOnnyI hope you all ok with it11:30
thomasboimahsure11:30
zOnnyit would be great see issues coming from real user experience11:30
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zOnnythat is why, it is important that all we are aware of the projects we are dealing with11:31
zOnnyit make sense for gabriel_jetro or you thomasboimah to look into what needs to be fixed if you have time11:32
zOnnytask management is important and it needs to be done including everyone's skills11:34
zOnnyI'm not the best of applying it11:35
zOnnybut I'm learning it by assuming that you thomasboimah and gabriel_jetro are ready for handling it well11:36
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zOnnythe same way you did the sjcompute and the secosol systemd functionality11:36
zOnnymkolleh: are you here?11:37
gabriel_jetroNah he quit11:38
mkollehyes11:38
zOnnygot it11:38
mkollehI just joining again 11:38
zOnnygabriel_jetro: anything you are focusing right now?11:38
gabriel_jetroNo11:38
zOnnymkolleh: want to be assigned a task?11:39
mkollehokay11:39
mkollehwhich task11:39
zOnnymkolleh: I just want to make sure you are onboard to be assigned 11:40
zOnnymkolleh: It is important for me for the next weekend see where are you at regarding that task11:41
zOnnymkolleh: do you have LibreOrganize installed, yes?11:41
mkollehYes I have it installed 11:42
mkollehand working11:42
zOnnythomasboimah: is the jetro already using the systemd?11:44
zOnnythomasboimah: the jetro website?11:44
thomasboimahnope11:44
thomasboimahnot yet11:44
zOnnythomasboimah: should this task assigned to mkolleh?11:44
thomasboimahyes!11:45
mkollehmy computer is about to good off11:45
zOnnymkolleh: thomasboimah or gabriel_jetro will give an update about the task11:46
mkollehI will still see my task when I get online11:46
zOnnymkolleh: will email it to you11:46
mkollehokay but I'm still here yet11:46
gabriel_jetroI don't think so, zOnny11:46
zOnnymkolleh: nvm I will open an issue in the gitlab for you11:46
zOnnythomasboimah: is this something you can help me with11:47
zOnnygabriel_jetro: ?11:47
mkollehokay zOnny11:47
thomasboimahTo open an issue?11:48
gabriel_jetroYou were asking if jetro website use systemd11:48
zOnnythomasboimah: explaining it to mkolleh about the gunicorn setup11:48
thomasboimahsure11:48
zOnnymkolleh: I think he has part of the jetro launching the website11:49
gabriel_jetro+111:50
mkollehI understand how to use gunicorn11:51
mkollehI use it on the jetroweb website 11:51
mkollehyou use it in production to run your server11:51
zOnnyACTION is creating the issue11:52
mkollehACTION is waiting 11:54
zOnnyACTION is done11:54
mkollehlet me check11:55
zOnnymkolleh: yes the gunicorn is used to run it in the server11:55
zOnnymkolleh: right now the gunicorn is being running manually with a command11:55
zOnnymkolleh: that command can break at any point when mayfirst update their servers11:56
zOnnymkolleh: then the site is down until that command is executed again11:56
zOnnymkolleh: so to find a solution to that issue, we are running gunicorn in the systemd unit file11:57
zOnnythat file is found 11:57
zOnnyin the .local/share/systemd11:58
zOnnyso you should be able to create a file for the jetrowebdevelopement in the .local/share/systemd/user/jetrowebdevelopment.service12:00
zOnnythat service file will execute the gunicorn in the background 12:00
zOnnymkolleh: I added the code in your tasks12:09
zOnnymkolleh: if you have further questions please let me know 12:11
zOnnythomasboimah: are you still focusing in the cosmetology project?12:11
thomasboimahJeff said i should hold with that for now, until I get some user Stories12:12
thomasboimahOn*12:12
zOnnythomasboimah: got it12:12
zOnnythomasboimah: what is the update with the graphic designers?12:16
zOnnythomasboimah: any luck12:16
thomasboimahYeah, he is with us now12:16
thomasboimahI invite him to join us today12:17
thomasboimahBut maybe he forget12:17
zOnnythomasboimah: great12:17
zOnnythomasboimah: what tools he uses?12:19
thomasboimahHe is good with photoshop, But Jeff and the team ask him to learn our FOSS like penpot, inskape and GAMP and he is doing that12:21
zOnnythomasboimah: got it12:22
thomasboimahzOnny, Is their any in mind or update that we can do with BT?12:23
thomasboimah*anything12:23
thomasboimahSo that i can work on it12:23
gabriel_jetrozOnny At least something to get going during the week12:24
zOnnythomasboimah: this last nwd meeting was about it12:24
zOnnythomasboimah: what we want to use from BT12:24
zOnnythomasboimah: is the current BT enough for us to work with12:25
zOnnythomasboimah: there was a mix of answers and point of views12:25
zOnnythomasboimah: as for now BT is still in the development phase12:26
zOnnythomasboimah: BT complexity can grown if we don't define what we are actually want it to do it12:26
zOnnythomasboimah: for me personally it is already complex12:27
zOnnythomasboimah: with the org scope functionality12:27
zOnnythomasboimah: when developing the features you have to think with two orgs in mind12:28
zOnnythomasboimah: I'm kinda regretting implementing it 12:28
zOnnythomasboimah: does that makes sense to you12:29
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zOnnythomasboimah: are you aware that the intern Aaron is already working in the calendar feature?12:31
thomasboimah-112:32
zOnnythomasboimah: I haven't track his work yet12:32
zOnnythomasboimah: I think anthony_p is working with him closely12:32
zOnnythomasboimah: I want to wait what he brings to the table and how we can polished once it is done12:33
zOnnythomasboimah: I don't think the Jetro Team has used BT at all, yes?12:36
gabriel_jetro-112:36
gabriel_jetrowe did explore it12:36
gabriel_jetroand how it navigation works12:37
zOnnythomasboimah: how you want to make updates if you don't get feedback from the user stories12:37
zOnnythomasboimah: that is a discussion we had12:37
zOnnythomasboimah: we have mayfirst tasks features as well12:37
zOnnythomasboimah: so it is a mix of suggestions but not a real answer12:38
zOnnythomasboimah: I only use BT for invoicing 12:38
thomasboimahYes cleaning up email redirect12:38
zOnnythomasboimah: email readirect?12:38
thomasboimahYep, Jeff send an email about the email redirect on Mayfirst12:39
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zOnnythomasboimah: tell me more12:40
thomasboimahzOnny, check your email with this subject: Friends, interns and spam in our inboxes? 12:41
zOnnythomasboimah: got it12:42
zOnnythomasboimah: not big fan of redirect emails12:43
zOnnythomasboimah: it gets messy quickly12:43
zOnnythomasboimah: I'm not fully aware of the redirects12:44
zOnnythomasboimah: I always send to each personals email12:44
zOnnythomasboimah: can you help fix it?12:46
thomasboimahYes,12:46
zOnnythomasboimah: cool12:47
thomasboimahBut will with on that we Jeff since he know with emails need to be remove or fixed properly12:47
thomasboimah*work12:47
zOnnyhe is definitely adding fuel to the fire12:48
zOnnybtw, big fire :D12:49
zOnnyso regarding of what is next12:51
zOnnyI think the next goal depend on what our projects need12:53
thomasboimahyep12:54
zOnnythomasboimah: we would need eventually update the way LibreOrganize works12:56
zOnnythomasboimah: the way we advertised it 12:56
zOnnyhttps://libreorganize.org/12:57
zOnnyit isn't even close to that12:57
zOnnyeven the jetro logo at the bottom isn't displaying well on my end12:57
zOnnythomasboimah: will you be able to help me with this issue? https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/business-tracker/-/work_items/8313:06
zOnnythomasboimah: we can hide it from the users for now13:07
thomasboimahsure13:07
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gabriel anything for me to work on during the week, zOnny?13:17
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zOnnygabriel: what is your focus on?13:21
zOnnygabriel: I did ask it earlier13:22
gabrieli think i wasn't getting your question13:22
zOnnygabriel: no worries13:22
zOnnygabriel: what is your focus on?13:22
gabriellike what am i working on?13:23
zOnnygabriel: yes13:25
gabrielNothing for now that's why I'm asking if you have something for me13:25
zOnnygabriel: got it13:26
thomasboimahzOnny, quick question13:33
zOnnygabriel: I got you a quick task in the gitlab13:34
zOnnythomasboimah: yes?13:34
thomasboimahWhere you saying that i should hide the organization on the side bar or the create organization button when click on organization on the side bar13:35
thomasboimah?13:35
zOnnythomasboimah: in the organizations page13:36
thomasboimahgot you13:36
zOnnythomasboimah: just hide the "create organization" button13:36
gabriel_jetroWhat's the test zOnny 13:39
gabriel_jetro*task13:40
zOnnygabriel_jetro: https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/libreorganize-customization/libreorganize-themes/-/work_items/613:41
zOnnygabriel_jetro: https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/libreorganize-customization/libreorganize-themes/-/work_items/713:41
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thomasboimahzOnny, this is what i will do with it, I will not remove it total i will just comment it until further notice13:43
zOnnythomasboimah: that works13:43
zOnnythomasboimah: I did enabled it because I wanted the users to do it from the UI13:43
zOnnythomasboimah: but once they created it, it should not visible anymore13:44
zOnnythomasboimah: it isn't visible to everyone but admins still can see it and I saw resl creating another one for sjcompute, I was wait a minute13:45
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zOnnythomasboimah: we do not want sjcompute business tracker yet13:46
thomasboimahyes!13:46
zOnnythomasboimah: this means users will do it if they see it :D13:47
zOnnygabriel_jetro: are you here?13:48
gabriel_jetroYes13:48
zOnnyyou got what you need13:48
zOnnygabriel_jetro: or need more tasks?13:48
gabriel_jetroOK13:48
zOnnyI got 2 more13:48
zOnnybut I don't want to overload you :D13:48
gabriel_jetroDrop it, I'll work on them during the week13:49
zOnnygabriel_jetro: this website https://mujeresmanosalaobra.org/13:50
zOnnywe will need soon make some updates13:50
zOnnygabriel_jetro: make sure you have your dev emvironment  ready for it13:50
gabriel_jetroOK I'll13:52
zOnnygabriel_jetro: that is a branch https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/libreorganize-customization/libreorganize-themes/-/tree/MMALO13:52
zOnnythomasboimah: since you already have bring your focus to BT13:54
zOnnythomasboimah: can you find a way to add a task to multiple users?13:55
thomasboimahsure13:55
zOnnythomasboimah: from the same org13:55
zOnnythomasboimah: I thing we will need that13:56
zOnny**think13:56
zOnnythomasboimah: that could close this issue https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/business-tracker/-/work_items/8113:57
zOnnywho else needs tasks :D13:58
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zOnnyACTION alright going to drop off my dad16:23
zOnnythomasboimah: will be online tomorrow16:23
thomasboimahOkay16:24
thomasboimahHave a nice day16:24
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