IRC log of #novawebdev for Tuesday, 2026-09-08

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mulbahHello smohamud11:30
smohamudHi11:31
smohamudmeet.mayfirst.org/novaweb11:31
smohamudTrouble getting in?11:34
smohamudIf need be, we can do a Live Share.11:34
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resl!list14:33
Websterss**Scheduled Meetings:**14:33
resl!help create14:34
Websterss!create <description> [on Day HH:MM TZ] or [YY:DD:MM Time]14:34
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WebsterssTime formats: '2026-04-27 15:30' or 'on Sunday 14:30 UTC'14:34
WebsterssIf no time is specified, the meeting is scheduled for 1 hour from now.14:34
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resl!create NWD Tuesday Business Meeting on Tuesday 22:0014:35
WebsterssMeeting created! ID: U6X7 | Name: NWD Tuesday Business Meeting on Tuesday 22:0014:35
resl!help remove14:35
Websterss!remove <item_id_or_text>14:35
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resl!delete U6X714:35
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resl!create NWD Tuesday Business Meeting 2026-09-08 22:0014:36
WebsterssMeeting created! ID: HJ42 | Name: NWD Tuesday Business Meeting14:36
resl!add HJ42 Checkins Round14:36
WebsterssAdded to agenda: [I1] 'Checkins Round' (by resl)14:36
resl!add HJ42 Reports Round14:36
WebsterssAdded to agenda: [I2] 'Reports Round' (by resl)14:36
resl!add HJ42 Thank you Zonny re: Interns and Alumni pages on NWD site14:37
WebsterssAdded to agenda: [I3] 'Thank you Zonny re: Interns and Alumni pages on NWD site' (by resl)14:37
resl!add HJ42 Rachel for member/owner promotion after 6 months re: OA14:38
WebsterssAdded to agenda: [I4] 'Rachel for member/owner promotion after 6 months re: OA' (by resl)14:38
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resl!add HJ42 Jeff needs update to SJC site re: laptops and grant funded program19:12
WebsterssAdded to agenda: [I5] 'Jeff needs update to SJC site re: laptops and grant funded program' (by resl)19:12
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Websterss**Agenda for 'HJ42 - NWD Tuesday Business Meeting'** [✅ ACTIVE]22:00
Websterss   4. [I4] Rachel for member/owner promotion after 6 months re: OA (by: resl)22:00
Websterss   5. [I5] Jeff needs update to SJC site re: laptops and grant funded program (by: resl)22:00
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klariosklarios: can take notes22:02
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klarios!agenda22:02
Websterss**Agenda for 'HJ42 - NWD Tuesday Business Meeting'** [✅ ACTIVE]22:02
Websterss   4. [I4] Rachel for member/owner promotion after 6 months re: OA (by: resl)22:02
Websterss   5. [I5] Jeff needs update to SJC site re: laptops and grant funded program (by: resl)22:02
klariosresl: I am okay, Just found out about the death of a friend, david cobb, board member of USSEN :( Is very shocking and sad22:03
reslKei is doing okay, and really busy with the last week of moving to Richmond, VA22:04
klarios tony: hanging in there, can stay for the whole meeting22:04
reslRachel and Tony can stay for the whole meeting. klarios can you stay til 7pm too?22:04
klariosjelkner: redneck gone green was his favorite podcast and combined practice and theory, a huge loss and lots of shock. Good news! Nikita got Decidim set up!22:05
klariosyep klarios can stay22:05
klariosarc_: is alright and can stay for the whole meeting22:05
reslDavid Cobb's revolutionary, hopeful podcast: https://redneckgonegreen.com/22:06
klarioszonny not on IRC but can stay the whole meeting, gave condolences for david cobb22:06
klariosreports22:06
klariosresl: Have been catching up with jelkner and sahnun. Proud of the Dev Circle for showing out with CJS. This is a good opportunity for protocols, payments, etc.22:07
klarioswould like to talk about the member-owner in the coop processes22:08
klariosjelkner: and resl spoke and disagreed on when a good time to become a worker-owner would be, a discussion and decisions are to be scheduled 22:09
arc_Sounds good!22:10
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WebsterssRemoved: [I3] 'Thank you Zonny re: Interns and Alumni pages on NWD site'22:10
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Websterss**Agenda for 'HJ42 - NWD Tuesday Business Meeting'** [✅ ACTIVE]22:11
Websterss   4. [I5] Jeff needs update to SJC site re: laptops and grant funded program (by: resl)22:11
reslKei wants to check in with Jeff about CJS to get in the loop re: work they can do22:11
reslJeff suggests Kei reach out to Sahnun - he can be the point of contact for CJS22:12
klariosresl: zonny updated NWD site and added new interns, if arc_ wants to be added reach out to resl 22:12
reslKara and Josh are writing a Django library app and Jeff reports he's interested in pairing interns up more with older developers to help with their training 22:13
reslJeff reports that SJC is likely to get the grant for the laptop refurb program and is looking to quickly update the SJC site with info on the program.22:13
reslIntroduced Matt Slaats to Decidim person in California. 22:13
reslTony has been dealing with some difficulties so might need a bit of time to get into the work headspace 22:14
arc_No questions on the website front from me.22:15
reslZonny had a meeting with NSS and the others on the NWD team, and it was productive. There was a nice overview on the app with Sahnun and feedback from April on their old processes/tools - will keep Tony up to date22:17
arc_Rachel, after this point, if you don't mind, I have some details to share/report on the Decidim instance/scalability thereof.22:18
reslRachel asks if the member owners are on board with Rachel becoming a member owner now that it has been 6 months22:18
reslarc_:  I'd love to add that to the agenda - thank you.22:18
resl!add Nikita report on Decidim in more detail22:18
WebsterssAdded to agenda: [I6] 'Nikita report on Decidim in more detail' (by resl)22:18
reslTony is good with Rachel becoming member owner according to the Operating Agreement (OA). Kei asks if we need to clarify more what it means to be a worker owner, if it is not fleshed out enough in the OA yet.22:19
reslJeff told Sahnun and Rachel that he thinks we need to have more revenue before new member owners are added.22:20
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reslJeff corrects the understanding that he was not opposing bringing on the new member owners, but he wants to put it off for some months.22:21
reslMember ownership isn't just symbolic - it's a display of investment, that the person becoming an owner is investing their time and commitment into the co-op.22:24
reslThe revenue has never been enough to sustain workers full time in this cooperative. Tony and Kei joined when there wasn't enough revenue. The business is behind, notes Jeff, and adding more owners means complicating the democratic process.22:26
reslJeff re: SJC and laptop program. There's someone donating laptops for the program, and can donate them directly to SJC. The website needs to include details on the program now.22:29
reslRachel can manage the project, but to get the page up quickly might be the priority here. Then after that, interns and others can spend some time on the styling and enhancements22:32
reslThe campaign will be ongoing, so we might want to build a Django app to facilitate the program, so that people can donate old laptops to SJC and get their receipt letter.22:33
klariosjelkner: no need to asses, its up to them to estimate on taxes22:33
dcammuehi guys, can i get a link to the video call?22:34
arc_dcammue: meet.mayfirst.org/novaweb22:35
dcammuethanks22:35
reslSJC Board meeting is on the 20th, but in the mean time Rachel will get things going for the program so SJC can accept donations and we can start planning for the program long term.22:40
reslNikita's report on Decidim progress - Lots of testing on his own hardware before setting it up remotely. He managed to get it running smoothly in under an hour.22:40
reslHe's running it through Docker. Besides Docker, nothing needs to be on the server. Ruby and everything else happens in Docker. No issues so far and minimum storage and memory22:41
reslRachel wants to meet with Nikita soon for onboarding and to discuss plans with Decidim moving forward.22:42
reslNikita, can you set up test accounts for Rachel and others in the co-op? Nikita can but hasn't configured SMTP yet. But configuring that should be straight forward.22:43
dcammueI am actually doing perfectly fine, and i have been around with sahnun learning some java script, and i also had a meeting with zOnny, Jeff, and sahnun, and we discussed how both Jetro and Nova need to get one full time office manager that will be working 5 days a week and will be able to do all follow up on projects and billing in order to do an invoice for the both coops and we came up seeing me as the one that could do 22:49
dcammuethat job since my rate of hour is more reasonable here in Liberia, and sahnun also stated that he will also work along with me to learn such new idea, and we also plan of meeting I may not spell her name correctly "Lendcy" to speed my up with more bookkeeping knowledge since she has been working for long time in bookkeeping area.22:49
arc_resl: I am freely available week-long from 10AM to midnight for audio meetings, and 10AM to 4AM for IRC, with the exception of Tue/Thu 8PM-1030PM. Shoot me an email as to what time works for you. I am but a lowly devops intern, so my contribution is just about limited to getting instances running and hooked up to a domain, but I'll do what I can.22:53
reslHaha thank you arc_ I will email you after this call. Looking forward very much!22:54
jelknerIs anyone able to attend the Tech Worker Co-op Network meeting tomorrow?22:54
arc_I will look into modifying my existing setup for the Docker stack, to ensure that we can migrate people off of a test/staging instance to their own (managed by us) once they're certain Decidim is right for them.22:55
jelknerAwesome!22:55
jelknerWe should put that on our agenda soon, resl, so you update us.22:56
jelknerTomorrow is the monthly meeting.22:56
jelknerI'll be there, resl 22:57
arc_Poor/improper LLM usage is extremely harmful to the industry. I use it quite frequently, but have seen only too often that others who use it  are allergic to documentation -- be it reading it or writing it.22:57
jelknerI keep forgetting if there is a form I'm supposed to fill out.22:57
arc_An incredibly powerful tool for individuals/organizations with limited manpower/time, but when utilized improperly it's a giant detriment.22:58
arc_Have a good night all!22:58
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reslThe Tech Peer Network meets tomorrow at 3:30pm Eastern Time, and then the following day at the same time, the TPN hosts a seminar on Digital Security with FOSS22:59
reslHere is the registration form for the Worker Cooperatives Conference satellite event in Great Falls on Sat. Sep. 26: https://share.mayfirst.org/apps/forms/s/NDTksPyqmCNSqMws7i5HtsM423:02
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