IRC log of #novawebdev for Wednesday, 2026-09-16

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gabriel_jetroGood morning dcammue please inform the team that I won't be at the office due to the rain since this morning, water enter my house I'm working that's why 10:32
dcammueokay, no problem10:33
dcammueGood morning gabriel_jetro 10:33
dcammuesorry to hear about water entered your house10:34
dcammueGood afternoon smohamud 10:45
dcammueACTION goes to the rest-room10:45
smohamudGood afternoon Dcammue. Please share Feedback on your interest in the JS course when you have a chance.10:49
smohamudAlso - any idea on what happened Monday? Nobody showed to Standup on time...10:50
smohamudI have an appointment so I'll be dropping shortly. Standup - CJS Roadmap Draft containing refined requirements, including FRs, NFRs and Acceptance Criteria for the first two high priority items is completed and shared. 10:51
dcammueokay, i will emailed my feedback and what happened on Monday10:52
smohamudRead/replied to NSS client comments in the NSS Workflow Questions document we're collaborating on. Forked the production branch of CJS and attempting lighter-weight solution than the current workaround branch that was built.10:53
smohamudSure, feel free to share here too.. It's meant to take 2 minutes.10:53
smohamud(1) Scale of 1-5 how interested are you in continuing the class and (2) do you feel overwhelmed or confused by introducing JS rather than focusing on Python/Django.10:55
smohamudNo pressure whether you're interested or not :)10:55
smohamudalso - today after appt will try finish getting the lightweight cjs prod fork running.11:02
dcammueokay, let do it here quickly11:03
dcammueI am fully interested in the class and i love all activities that has been going on so far11:04
dcammueand on MOnday, I did not attend the class because Freena and I went to run after the Renewal our Business Certificate.11:06
dcammuebecause it is what we need to used to get our Credit Union Account setup11:07
dcammuebut I am so sorry that jkollie did not let you know11:08
dcammuesmohamud, 11:08
dcammuethat what happened11:08
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reslNikita at the moment has these impressions re: Decidim for now:17:39
reslTemporary instances can be hosted on a test server that we use for that purpose. If a client decides to go with Decidim longer term, then we set them up with a server plan and do the management17:40
reslSahnun asks where Voca fits into things for us. Tony explains Voca does Decidim hosting well and we know we can rely on their expertise in the meantime, until or unless we opt to do the backend hosting ourselves (with the hosting plan per client set up for that client like Nikita said)17:42
reslThe Voca hosting is more expensive than what we might bill at first, as we are not as experienced, and clients might have to deal with slightly longer service times if there are bugs or issues, etc. but Voca wants to see Decidim used widely like we do, and they are eager to get us to a point where we can provide the same kind of reliable Decidim hosting.17:43
reslKei reminds us that the hosting on the backend is a lot of work, and our cooperative needs to have our protocols for project management down and working smoothly, so it is good we have Voca as partners until we are at the same level of cohesion and consistency with our processes17:44
resl(Present at this meeting: Sahnun, Rachel, Kei, Nikita, Tony)17:44
reslSahnun notes he wants us to clarify among ourselves what use-cases we're focusing on for fear that we can't do it "all" and Tony agrees and explains that we want to really clarify our processes so that we all know what we do offer and do, even though it might not include every possibility with Decidim, but are setups we know how to do well and can be clear about17:46
reslNikita notes that we can have plans for the multiple use cases we expect will be relevant (e.g., a school, a cooperative, a nonprofit, and a municipal government)17:47
arc_To my understanding, the objective with Decidim is as follows:17:48
arc_1) Be able to both help organizations get "into the flow" of using Decidim, providing temporary hosting either via Voca or our own hardware, to let them try it out and see if it's the correct fit.17:49
arc_2) Once they are concretely decided on using it, be able to function as IT/administration for Decidim instances run on either their own hardware, or hardware rented by the client.17:50
arc_Point 2 being setting it up (quite literally, the instance running, the database running, posted to a domain of theirs, etc.), migrating it as needed, assisting with managing organization(s), etc., everything that would normally require digging Decidim documentation (cont.)17:51
arc_or calling in some sort of support staff, so on and so forth. Being the team fully operating things in a software/hardware sense, while the client can focus on implementation (getting their community engaged, using it for their purposes, etc.) without needing to worry (cont.)17:52
arc_about any sort of tech hiccups or needing on-location staff experienced with any sort of system administration as a whole, let alone Decidim.17:52
reslTraining program for users and admins is a must for any plan as the nature of this program is participatory governance - Kei and Sahnun note - this is a key part to include as we outline our "plans" so to speak.17:53
reslVoca hosting is great for customers who don't want to have their own hosting set up like we have with NSS's Linode.18:00
reslData definitions draft for the AMS done recently so starting Monday we will start implementing the feedback we've gotten from the clients; things are going well and it is almost done. Import/export abilities are to be added 18:07
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reslProject team for Decidim is Kei, Rachel, and Nikita, who will flesh out pricing plans and set ups for a handful of use cases we expect for Decidim, and then schedule a meeting with everyone in the co-op to report/present the proposal and have a decision process. Then we begin creating the materials like documentation and runbooks for the different cases, esp. the congifurations of modules and processes, plus training materials for admins setting up.18:24
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