IRC log of #novawebdev for Monday, 2026-09-28

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shallonGood morning jelkner gabriel_jetro freena_ smohamud 10:55
jelknerYesterday my friend Dr. Ann Kennedy introduced me to a Liberian colleague of hers and said we should get in touch. Dr. K is almost never wrong when she says things like this, so I immediately reached out. More later.10:56
jelknerACTION done10:56
jelknerThomas will have to forgive me for doing this early, but i need to go soon.10:56
jelknerGood morning shallon, freena_, gabriel_jetro and smohamud 10:56
smohamudgood morning all :)10:56
jelknerso the question at had is: How can we put an office staff in place that will allow our co-ops to thrive?10:57
jelknerthat's the question10:57
jelknerand it is a crucial one10:57
dcammueGood morning jelkner10:57
jelknerthe answer to this question is the main thing holding us back at the moment10:57
freena_Good morning jelkner 10:57
jelknerour main "blocker" if you will10:57
jelkneri think cjones and i can find work10:58
gabriel_jetroYesterday I attended a successful meeting with smohamud and zonny on deciding gitsub module and pipe install, there's no blocker now.10:58
jelkneri really believe we can find all the work JWD can handle10:58
gabriel_jetroACTION done10:58
jelknerbut that will only continue as long as JWD is able to handle it10:58
jelknerand handile it well10:58
jelknerso, what do y'all think?10:58
jelknerDo you understand what we need?10:59
freena_I plan to work on the sjc site today, thomas is going to give me access to the site 10:59
gabriel_jetro+110:59
dcammueWe can handle it to the best of our ability10:59
freena_Sure10:59
jelknerdcammue: i'm not sure that that means10:59
jelkneri think we need to have a better idea of what "the best of our ability" means10:59
jelknerso we know if that is good enough to succeed11:00
jelknerthe test will be our first customers11:00
jelknerif they are happy11:00
thomasboimahFinalize the Capital Music Network website project make a push to the repo Chris recommended alone with dcammue, work on my UoPeople assignments. No blocker.11:00
jelknerthen "the best of our ability" is good enough11:00
jelknerif they are not, it isn't11:00
dcammue+111:01
jelkneri also firmly believe we need full time people doing this11:01
jelknerour experience shows that volunteers and part timers are not good enough11:01
smohamudStandup: Ran/Reviewed FixMyCd code from Thomas. Continued writing up tickets for the current dev work. Class prep. Today, will finish reviewing the backlog of PRs. Spend time implementing Claudia Jones requirements.11:01
thomasboimahACTION going to read the log11:01
smohamuddone.11:01
jelknerso, dcammue and shallon, you asked me here this morning, what do you have to say?11:02
smohamudThomas, I messaged you but could you share why you're not attending class today?11:02
smohamudI also responded to your comments on the Git branching / Merging process.11:02
jelknerthomasboimah: you and i need to talk about Emergency Care Liberia soon11:03
jelknerbut not now, since you're scheduled with smohamud 11:03
jelknerok, dcammue and shallon 11:03
thomasboimahOkay 11:03
jelknersince you are not saying anything11:03
smohamudWe're not scheduled for anything.11:03
jelkneri need to go11:03
dcammueYesterday, we had a meeting concerning svaye availability and if she can handle the work.11:03
dcammueShe said yes11:03
jelknerok, then let's talk about that11:04
dcammueBut she will express herself here11:04
jelknershallon: are you available for a full time (40 hours per week) job?11:04
jelknerwe would want to put you on salary11:04
jelknerand expect you to be available 40 hours a week11:04
shallonI am available to do the work jelkner 11:04
jelknergreat11:05
mulbahGood morning to all11:05
jelknerso if the rest of JWD agrees you should do it11:05
jelknerwe need to talk about your hours11:05
jelknerand the communication workflow that will permit you and dcammue to do the job11:05
jelknerthis will be an important meeting11:05
jelknerwe should schedule it11:06
smohamudvery excited for you Shallon.11:06
shallonThe problem here is my distance from the office,  I explained to the team that I will do most of the work remotely and be at the office every Wednesday 12pm to 5pm and Friday 3pm to 5pm11:06
jelkneri'll be a the Virginia Solidarity Economy retreat next weekend11:06
smohamudWould love to work with you and share some of the resources we're developing to handle Project Management.11:06
jelknerHow about Saturday, October 10th at 11:00 UTC?11:07
dcammueSo Jeff, if i clearly understand you, you mean the person should be at the office to cover up the 40hours/week right?11:07
jelknercan you make that shallon 11:07
jelknerdcammue: we can leave that up to y'all to decide11:07
shallonI will make the meeting jelkner 11:07
jelkneri know how hard transporation is11:07
jallahkoleahGood morning, everyone11:07
jelknerso if you determine that shallon can work remotely, and do it effectively11:07
jelknerthat could be fine11:08
gabriel_jetro+111:08
jelknerbut i'll tell you as someone who will be trying to bring you work11:08
jelknerregular availability will be crucial!11:08
jelkneri need to know that if i find a customer11:08
jelkneryou'll be there to meet them11:08
jelknercool, let's put Saturday, October 10th at 11:00 UTC on our calendar11:09
shallonI promise to be available, and if there's any reason why I can't make it I will inform the team sooner11:09
jelknernot just that, shallon, but you need to find back up11:09
shallon+111:09
jelknersince if you can't make it, the job can't just be left undone11:09
jelknerthat will kill us11:09
jelknerand we want to live! ;-)11:10
shallonDefinitely jelkner 11:10
jelknersweet11:10
jelknerlet's plan more by email between now and the 10th11:10
gabriel_jetroThat's why she's working with dcammue, jelkner 11:10
jelknerdcammue and thomasboimah, i'll need an update on the JWD budget11:10
jelknerthomasboimah: when will it be moved to May First11:10
jelknerthe Gnucash i mean?11:11
thomasboimahgive me this week to do that please 11:11
jelknergreat11:11
jelknerlet's make the 10th a target for much of this, including:11:11
jelkner1. Getting the Credit Union account for JWD ready to receive a wire transfer11:11
freena_The account is already set jelkner 11:12
smohamudIf you're attending class today please put a +111:12
jelkner2. Having the bookkeeping for JWD on May First11:12
smohamudWe need at least 3 from now on as mentioned last time.11:12
jallahkoleah+111:12
freena_But i want to share something with the team if i am permitted 11:12
jelknerok, all, talk soon11:12
jelknerfreena_: do you need me, or can i just read the logs?11:12
dcammuejelkner: please check your nextcloud i sent two files in jetro financialinfor folder concerning the credit union11:12
gabriel_jetrojelkner: 11:12
jelknerdcammue: email me with a link11:13
jelknerplease11:13
gabriel_jetrofreena_: have a proposal 11:13
dcammueOkay11:13
gabriel_jetrojelkner: 11:13
freena_You can if possible jelkner 11:13
jelknerok, but only 10 more minutes11:13
gabriel_jetrofreena_: shoot 11:13
smohamudSo far only hear Jallah is interested in class today. Anyone else?11:14
freena_The credit union is like a saving club and for that reason. I will like to purpose that jetro web create and account with eco bank. So that we can put some of the money in the bank account and leave the rest in our credit union account for savings.11:15
jelknerfreena_: is eco bank the once the credit union works with?11:15
jelknerif i remember what you told me11:15
freena_Yes11:15
jelkneri strongly agree11:16
jelknerwe want to build our power11:16
jelknerwe want to democratize control over financial resources11:16
smohamudJallah, reach out to me privately for a session. Haven't heard anyone else. 11:16
jelknerso you will be members of the credit union11:16
freena_+111:17
jelkneryou will learn from your fellow members how they are approaching that problem11:17
freena_We are already a member of the credit union11:17
freena_Sure 11:17
jelkneryes, i understand11:17
jelknerbut what you told me, if i understand correctly11:17
jelkneris that the credit union in Liberia is not set up to do certain things11:18
jelknerlike international wire transfers, for example11:18
jelknerso they partner with a bank they feel is aligned with their values11:18
jelknerthe eco bank, right?11:18
freena_+111:18
jelknerthen you should totally open an account there so SJC can make a wire transfer11:19
jelkneryou'll need that11:19
jelknerok, more soon11:19
jelkneri have to go11:19
jelkneror i'll be in hot water when my students get here and i'm not ready ;-)11:20
jelknersee y11:20
freena_Okay11:20
jelknersee y'11:20
freena_See you jelkner 11:20
jelknersee y'all soon...11:20
jelknerthanks freena_!11:20
shallonHave a wonderful day jelkner 11:20
jelkneryou too11:20
jelknerlet's keep moving JWD!11:20
jelknerour goal should be to have all of you on a dependable salary within the next year or two11:20
jelknerwe can do it!11:21
gabriel_jetro+111:21
jelknerbye for now...11:21
dcammue_+111:21
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jallahkoleahthomasboimah, I want us to talk on somethings bro11:21
jallahkoleahsmohamud11:22
jallahkoleahmulbah, I haven't heard from you about what we are planning on bro11:23
gabriel_jetrosmohamud: we're having internet issues at the office right now, we're using our phones 11:23
dcammue_smohamud, we ran out on internet on yesterday our wifi is down with data11:24
mulbahHmm it's I suppose to be saying that 11:24
dcammue_so we may not attend class in the number11:24
mulbahWe will chat on it on WhatsaApp11:24
gabriel_jetroThe subscription finished mulbah and the guy that supposed to to the recharge said he isn't available right now 11:24
jallahkoleahI messaged them bro, but waiting for their response11:25
jallahkoleahmaybe we can talk more about that on whatsApp, mulbah11:25
mulbahSure11:25
smohamudHi all, no worries.11:26
jallahkoleahcheck you whatsApp, mulbah11:26
smohamudThanks for letting me know.11:26
smohamudI'm sorry to hear that it ran out, let us know if we can help.11:27
gabriel_jetroThe account is managed by someone for now so we ain't able to recharge it accept the person that's managing it until a certain period of time before we get access to our account smohamud 11:30
gabriel_jetroAnd the guy said he went out of time for some reason and he'll be back soon to do the recharge 11:30
smohamudGot you.11:31
smohamudUnfortunately I don't know the guy and cant' help. lol11:31
smohamud(or gal)11:31
gabriel_jetroYeah but we don't know how star link work really because of the sanctions of our own account, I thought when we paid for the Star Link we were supposed to be the one who manages it but the guy said it's not how it works, we need to recharge for certain period before turning our account over, smohamud 11:33
gabriel_jetroAnd now our subscription finished and he's not available to do the recharge for the month 11:34
smohamudI see. Did you get a time when you'll take over managing the account?11:34
smohamudGot you. What plan are you on btw?11:34
gabriel_jetroThis should be the last activation than he'll turn our account over so we can be able to do our own subscription 11:35
gabriel_jetroSo the plan btw is that after doing this subscription he should turn over the account so we could do our own subscription 11:36
smohamudOk good but I also would like to know your current setup11:38
smohamudIs the Residential Plan Lite, Residential Plank? Are you using the Satellite mini or Standard kit?11:38
smohamud50GB? Business Plan?11:39
gabriel_jetro+111:39
smohamudSo what's the plan and hardware? 11:40
gabriel_jetroStandard kit 11:40
gabriel_jetroAnd we plan to recharge monthly 11:41
gabriel_jetro$55 per month 11:41
smohamudData limit?11:41
gabriel_jetroNo11:41
gabriel_jetroBut subscription required 11:41
gabriel_jetroMonthly 11:41
smohamudI don't see an unlimited plan...11:44
smohamudSo you're saying that you start with an amount. $50.11:45
smohamudAnd when it runs out you call this guy to recharge?11:45
smohamudTypically, it's monthly.11:45
gabriel_jetroYes, $5511:45
freena_$5511:45
smohamudDo you normally shut down and then recharge?11:45
gabriel_jetroWith no data limit 11:45
dcammue_smohamud, the starlink is monthly subscription process11:45
smohamudOr do you recharge before it gets shut off?11:46
gabriel_jetroNo11:46
smohamudCan you share the plan name so I can look it up?11:46
dcammue_if it gets expire, we run out of internet11:46
smohamudRight. I'm wondering if you have this problem alot because it sounds like you just need to recharge early (or get a bigger plan)11:47
dcammue_and we registered the Account under the company, 11:47
dcammue_so they are responsible for recharging for us11:47
smohamudYou don't reach out to say "hey running low" if they're slow to refill?11:48
dcammue_but we contacted the guy and he said that we went do another costumer work in one of the county11:48
smohamudI see.11:48
dcammue_and this month is the month we need to assign our credit card to our account11:49
dcammue_so that it get activated automatically every month11:49
dcammue_but we will soon get it fix11:49
smohamudThis is such a strange situation.11:50
smohamudI'm sorry it seems annoying and causing these problems.11:50
dcammue_yes, they made a mistake by not informing us be they could leave11:50
dcammue_yes, 11:50
smohamudWell, keep me updated on when it switches to your management. Sounds like that'll make things more predictable.11:51
smohamudThanks you Gabriel too for explaining.11:51
dcammue_Standard Kit plan11:51
smohamudOk comrades. Thomas and Gabriel, please give us a few days while we sort out the repo/Git tracking situation. I know you're interested in CJS-related work.11:54
jallahkoleahsmohamud, can you check your whatsApp?11:57
smohamudjust replied :)11:57
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