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| danielc | Good evening arbaaz | 20:49 |
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| danielC | How are you svaye | 21:01 |
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| svaye | Good evening danielC and arbaaz | 21:05 |
| danielC | Good evening jelkner | 21:20 |
| jelkner | Good late evening to you too danielC | 21:20 |
| svaye | Good evening jelkner | 21:20 |
| jelkner | and to you too svaye | 21:20 |
| jelkner | i'm still the only one here | 21:21 |
| jelkner | so it's just the 3 of us so far | 21:21 |
| svaye | +1 | 21:21 |
| danielC | So arbaaz is not part? | 21:21 |
| svaye | I don't think he's active right now danielC | 21:22 |
| jelkner | i'm not yet sure who arbaaz is | 21:23 |
| jelkner | but several of the club members stayed "logged on" for days after our last meeting | 21:24 |
| jelkner | it's because they are using a web hosted irc client | 21:24 |
| jelkner | and they never logged out from it | 21:24 |
| jelkner | i'm planning to teach them to do that this evening | 21:24 |
| danielC | No, arbaaz just joined. I was here before him | 21:25 |
| jelkner | ahh, arbaaz are you here? | 21:25 |
| jelkner | and if so, who are you? | 21:25 |
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| jelkner | danielC and svaye, arbaaz, aryac__, devesh, and Damon are all here now | 21:35 |
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| jelkner | i'll let you all introduce yourselves to each other | 21:36 |
| arya | Hello, I | 21:39 |
| Damon | Hello, I am Damon, a highs school senior, 18 years old in Arlington Virginia | 21:39 |
| devesh | Hello, Daniel and Shallon! | 21:39 |
| arya | Hello I'm Arya. I'm a high school sophomore in Virginia, U.S.. It's nice to meet everyone. | 21:40 |
| arbaaz | Hi, I am at Washington Liberty High School in Arlington, VA. Nice to meet you! | 21:40 |
| svaye | Hi everyone, I am Shallon, a member of Jetrowebdevelopment in Liberia, and a college student. Nice to meet you guys. | 21:41 |
| svaye | Hi devesh, how are you? | 21:41 |
| devesh | I'm doing well, Shallon. How are you? | 21:43 |
| svaye | I am good. | 21:44 |
| devesh | Good to hear that all is well. | 21:45 |
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| danielC | Hi everyone, I am Daniel Cammue, a member of jetroweb Development, a Web developer business based in Liberia. Am a college student at the University of the People and the University of Liberia studying business administration at UoPeople and business management at University of Liberia. Am also learning bookkeeping as well | 21:48 |
| danielC | Hello devesh | 21:49 |
| devesh | Hi Daniel | 21:50 |
| danielC | Longer time | 21:50 |
| sahnun__ | Hi Shallon and Dnaiel, long time! | 21:50 |
| jelkner | svaye and danielC, we don't want to keep you late this evening | 21:51 |
| jelkner | i just wanted you all to say hi to the rest of the club | 21:51 |
| jelkner | we meet here every two weeks | 21:51 |
| jelkner | so the next meeting will be 10/29 at this same time | 21:51 |
| jelkner | by then we will be ready to start gnucash | 21:51 |
| danielC | Yeah sahnun__ , how are you? | 21:52 |
| svaye | Hi sahnun__ how are you? | 21:52 |
| sahnun__ | Good good, how are you guys doing? | 21:52 |
| danielC | Great | 21:53 |
| svaye | I am good. | 21:53 |
| sahnun__ | Good to hear :) | 21:53 |
| danielC | Yeah:-) | 21:53 |
| sahnun__ | I heard about Thomas' mom, I hope he's OK. | 21:53 |
| jelkner | danielC and svaye, we are waiting for Amar to show up, and i'll be talking to him about the website he needs for his business | 21:54 |
| jelkner | i'm thinking Thomas could be one of his mentors for that | 21:54 |
| danielC | Okay | 21:54 |
| jelkner | and gabriel and mulbah could learn Django along with Amar | 21:54 |
| danielC | Yeah sahnun, he's trying to get his mother in a proper care | 21:55 |
| danielC | jelkner: is there any other person we are awaiting beside Amar? | 21:57 |
| sahnun__ | Yes I spoke to him today, he's doing his best. I pray she gets better soon. | 21:58 |
| jelkner | danielC, you don't have to stay | 21:59 |
| danielC | Because you were saying that we were going to talk about the tax filing | 21:59 |
| jelkner | i only planned to keep you for 1/2 hour | 21:59 |
| jelkner | danielC, devesh is the one we need to ask about that | 22:00 |
| jelkner | ved did all of that last year | 22:00 |
| danielC | devesh: | 22:00 |
| jelkner | he told me devesh was making progess, but he wasn' | 22:01 |
| jelkner | t ready yet | 22:01 |
| jelkner | so he'll have to have a baptism by fire | 22:01 |
| jelkner | with you too | 22:01 |
| jelkner | ved isn't here, but his sister arya is | 22:01 |
| danielC | So have SECOSOL filled for the past two years? | 22:01 |
| svaye | we can all learn together jelkner | 22:01 |
| jelkner | those he has been ghosting the family according to her | 22:02 |
| jelkner | we have an sjc board meeting sunday | 22:02 |
| jelkner | i hope to see him there | 22:02 |
| svaye | college has a way of taking you away from the world jelkner. | 22:02 |
| jelkner | yes svaye, i know | 22:05 |
| svaye | jelkner, like I mentioned today I can't access the IRS website now, is there an alternative you or devesh could suggest for me to go to as it relates to knowing more about the tax system of the U.S? | 22:05 |
| jelkner | so svaye, we are going to get you a VPN | 22:05 |
| jelkner | for now, just wait | 22:05 |
| svaye | Okay | 22:06 |
| danielC | jelkner: https://www.irs.gov/. Is this not the link | 22:07 |
| svaye | jelkner, do we have an agenda for today's meeting? or is it just for introduction. | 22:07 |
| jelkner | Amar just arrived | 22:07 |
| jelkner | the agenda i sent out had two items: | 22:07 |
| jelkner | 1. introduce svaye and danielC to the group | 22:07 |
| jelkner | 2. talk about Amar's website | 22:07 |
| jelkner | then Amar texted me that he would be late | 22:08 |
| jelkner | so we couldn't start item 2 | 22:08 |
| jelkner | but now we can | 22:08 |
| svaye | got it | 22:08 |
| jelkner | so Amar, i've been waiting for you | 22:08 |
| Amar | Hi guys | 22:08 |
| svaye | Hi Amar, how are you? | 22:09 |
| danielC | Hi Amar | 22:09 |
| Amar | im good how are you? | 22:09 |
| svaye | I am good | 22:09 |
| jelkner | i'm trying to understand the conversation we had | 22:10 |
| danielC | I am fine Amar | 22:10 |
| jelkner | you need a website for your car detailing business, yes? | 22:10 |
| jelkner | that is your "senior project", is it not? | 22:10 |
| Amar | yeah pretty much. | 22:11 |
| jelkner | can you give me (and us) some more context about what the school context is? | 22:11 |
| Amar | I am a senior doing the The International Baccalaureate (IB) dimploma | 22:12 |
| Amar | and in order to get this diploma i have to take certain classes, including Computer Science | 22:12 |
| Amar | So for IB Computer Science (IBCS) | 22:13 |
| jelkner | with Paul Bui | 22:13 |
| Amar | yes | 22:13 |
| jelkner | my former student | 22:13 |
| Amar | I am required to make a "project" for the class called IA | 22:13 |
| Amar | also known as Internal Assesment | 22:14 |
| jelkner | is IA a CS class? | 22:14 |
| Amar | No, its a "final project" for all Ib classes I take | 22:14 |
| jelkner | the reason i'm asking, is i need to understand how much we can help with the website | 22:14 |
| jelkner | you told me that you have to get the website, but you aren't required to write the Django all yourself | 22:15 |
| Amar | and where I write a roughly 2k word essay about the subject area | 22:15 |
| jelkner | so Amar, i already talked to both Thomas and sahnun__ about your project | 22:17 |
| jelkner | they are excited to do it | 22:17 |
| jelkner | so we should start working on that soon | 22:17 |
| Amar | Small issue is that it primarily the back end functions has to be written/done in python by me, but the user interface like visuals, user interfrace, and stuff can be done from soemwhere else | 22:18 |
| Amar | do you guys have a any questions? | 22:20 |
| sahnun__ | the main function of your backend is to manage scheduling? We should probably keep it minimally complex as far as frontend features unless that's a bonus for you. | 22:21 |
| Amar | yes pretty much and to collect basic information and data and store it in a file. | 22:23 |
| sahnun__ | Ok, so you want data on each specific appointment or metadata about the web visitors | 22:24 |
| sahnun__ | i.e. what kind of basic info? | 22:24 |
| Amar | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1owsMAvS-bhW8bIxcX5siKx_Vt7WX7w5pAaJvNaDjurg/edit?usp=sharing | 22:25 |
| Amar | Here is my Plan that I had to create pretty much | 22:25 |
| Amar | Like, Name, Locations, Time slots, What type of service, and other informations related to that. | 22:25 |
| sahnun__ | Got it, perfect. | 22:26 |
| Amar | Any other questoins? | 22:27 |
| Amar | i just have to be careful not to overstep the rubric of the assigment | 22:27 |
| jelkner | can you please get us the rubric? | 22:28 |
| sahnun__ | If you could add the service types that would be good. You'll probably want to start thinking about things like "how many characters will this column be at the longest" "is this a number or a string (word), all things you'll need to define for your Django model. Depending on how fast you want to go, this is all stuff that shouldn't take too too long as a beginner. | 22:28 |
| jelkner | it would be a great activity for Thomas to build a reservation system in any case | 22:28 |
| jelkner | Amar, if you are prohibited from using it for you AI | 22:28 |
| jelkner | you could still use it for your business | 22:29 |
| jelkner | after you finish your AI | 22:29 |
| jelkner | right? | 22:29 |
| sahnun__ | You'll also want a date of appointment, date of registration, | 22:30 |
| Amar | I am allowed to Use AI | 22:30 |
| Amar | yeah I agree | 22:30 |
| sahnun__ | Think about all the things you do in reality with a customer. | 22:30 |
| sahnun__ | When booking, what info do you collect? | 22:30 |
| sahnun__ | Those are the columns for your Bookings table. | 22:30 |
| sahnun__ | You may want a "Customer" table where you simply link the ID to the booking. | 22:31 |
| Amar | like information like : Name, Date appointment, Date registered, Location of the car, What type of service they want, How they want to pay, Email/Contact number | 22:32 |
| sahnun__ | Perfect, I would copy paste that into the Google Doc | 22:32 |
| Amar | what is a reservations system? | 22:33 |
| Amar | yeah that would be great. | 22:33 |
| sahnun__ | or if that's a formal document, just copying all of it and creating a personal use Planning doc for the actual software. | 22:33 |
| Amar | I need that for my buisness and my IA would benifit from it | 22:33 |
| sahnun__ | Try to identify the pain points in your current booking system --- are we designing primarily for mobile? Do you want to have a laptop open when booking? That will determine how we allocate our resourcecs. | 22:34 |
| Amar | Primarily for Webpage access on laptop and the phone | 22:35 |
| sahnun__ | Ok | 22:35 |
| jelkner | svaye and danielC, thanks for coming | 22:35 |
| jelkner | let's meet here again in two weeks | 22:35 |
| Amar | if thats not possible, then prioritizing phone would most likely be more convineint | 22:35 |
| sahnun__ | Is it currently all one with paper and pen? | 22:35 |
| sahnun__ | done with* | 22:35 |
| danielC | Thanks jelkner | 22:35 |
| svaye | thanks jelkner | 22:36 |
| Amar | Just throuhg my mind and notes app, I collected the reservaotins and contact them and remember it | 22:36 |
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| sahnun__ | Ok, so this will make life easier for you for sure :) | 22:37 |
| sahnun__ | Keep things organized, you can generate insights about what's profitable, what customers want etc. | 22:37 |
| sahnun__ | Dropdowns for all the options. | 22:38 |
| Amar | yep, and potential gain more customers because I am able to promote self easier, and get in contact with others easier. | 22:38 |
| sahnun__ | Radio buttons. Instead of typing it all out. | 22:38 |
| Amar | along with looking more professional | 22:38 |
| sahnun__ | Ahh, good point, absolutely. | 22:38 |
| Amar | Radio buttons? | 22:38 |
| sahnun__ | Those are like a little circle that you can click and it fills with a black dot. Usually there are a handful side by side. | 22:39 |
| sahnun__ | Like a multiple choice exam but for a website. | 22:39 |
| sahnun__ | https://materializecss.com/radio-buttons.html | 22:39 |
| sahnun__ | those are radio buttons, except fancy fancy. | 22:40 |
| Amar | ahh okay got it, that along with free response ones shoudl be good | 22:40 |
| sahnun__ | Yep, these are frontend questions I'm spitballing and getting you excited about the efficiency boost. Having it online is professional, but we want to minimize time-to-book | 22:41 |
| sahnun__ | And, we want to reduce the error rate. Maybe include a notification system for you where you get a push notification when a customer has an appointment coming up. Maybe they can use the link to cancel an appointment, too. | 22:41 |
| Amar | that sounds like a amazin idea, I just have no Idea how to implement that | 22:42 |
| sahnun__ | We will get there :) | 22:43 |
| sahnun__ | The database so far is two tables, Customer and Booking. Based on the features we want, we'll have to add more or less columns. | 22:44 |
| Amar | okay sounds good | 22:44 |
| sahnun__ | If you want to get up and running with Django, this is a good point in the official docs to start: https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/5.2/intro/tutorial02/ | 22:46 |
| sahnun__ | it shows you how to use a customized database as opposed to default SQLite (might be fine) | 22:46 |
| Amar | The Django Documentation? r9ight | 22:46 |
| sahnun__ | Yes | 22:46 |
| sahnun__ | It also shows you "migrate" which just means "create the tables I defined in my models files" | 22:46 |
| Amar | okay Ill try to get started on it when I have time | 22:46 |
| sahnun__ | A model corresponds to a single table. Let me know if I should add more if this is crossing into territory of too much help! | 22:47 |
| sahnun__ | You got this . | 22:47 |
| jelkner | good night all | 22:47 |
| sahnun__ | Good night all! | 22:47 |
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| arya | Good night everyone! | 22:47 |
| Amar | no this is fine, I jsut cant have someone write the 2k word essay written for me | 22:47 |
| Amar | pretty mcuh | 22:48 |
| svaye | Good night everyone! | 22:48 |
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