IRC log of #sjcompute for Sunday, 2026-08-16

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Jkollie!list meeting11:39
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WebsterssLittle Webster - Meeting Bot Commands:11:39
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Websterss   !sethost <nick>      - Change meeting host11:39
Websterss   !finish              - End and delete active meeting11:39
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Websterss**Agenda for 'EF64 - SJCompute Board Meeting 2026-07-19'** [⏸ INACTIVE - Use !add EF64 <item> to add items]11:42
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WebsterssLittle Webster - Meeting Bot Commands:12:00
Websterss   !stop                - Deactivate active meeting12:00
Websterss   !add [id] <item>     - Add agenda item (any meeting)12:00
Websterss   !agenda [id]         - Show agenda with item IDs and status12:00
Websterss   !remove <id>         - Remove agenda item by ID (e.g., I1)12:00
Websterss   !sethost <nick>      - Change meeting host12:00
Websterss   !finish              - End and delete active meeting12:00
Websterss   !delete              - Delete any meeting by ID/name12:00
WebsterssType !help <command> for details (e.g., !help add)12:00
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Websterss!create <description> [on Day HH:MM TZ] or [YY:DD:MM Time]12:01
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WebsterssTime formats: '2026-04-27 15:30' or 'on Sunday 14:30 UTC'12:01
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jkollie!create SJC Board Meeting 2026-08-16 2:0012:04
WebsterssMeeting created! ID: LH77 | Name: SJC Board Meeting12:04
jkollie!add LH77  Check in. How are you doing? will you stay till the end of the meeting?12:06
WebsterssAdded to agenda: [I1] 'Check in. How are you doing? will you stay till the end of the meeting?' (by jkollie)12:06
jkollie!add LH77 Understanding Sociocracy (by: Dr. Hubbard)12:12
WebsterssAdded to agenda: [I2] 'Understanding Sociocracy (by: Dr. Hubbard)' (by jkollie)12:12
jkollie!add LH77 Proposals on Sociocracy and social justice computing (by: jelkner)12:16
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WebsterssAdded to agenda: [I4] 'AOB(Any Other Business)' (by jkollie)12:18
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thomasboimah!agenda lh7712:20
Websterss**Agenda for 'LH77 - SJC Board Meeting'** [⏸ INACTIVE - Use !add LH77 <item> to add items]12:20
Websterss   4. [I4] AOB(Any Other Business) (by: jkollie)12:20
Websterss   5. [I5] Checkout. (by: jkollie)12:20
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Websterss**Agenda for 'LH77 - SJC Board Meeting'** [✅ ACTIVE]13:04
Websterss   4. [I4] AOB(Any Other Business) (by: jkollie)13:04
Websterss   5. [I5] Checkout. (by: jkollie)13:04
jkollie!help13:04
WebsterssLittle Webster - Meeting Bot Commands:13:04
Websterss   !stop                - Deactivate active meeting13:04
Websterss   !add [id] <item>     - Add agenda item (any meeting)13:04
Websterss   !agenda [id]         - Show agenda with item IDs and status13:04
Websterss   !remove <id>         - Remove agenda item by ID (e.g., I1)13:04
Websterss   !sethost <nick>      - Change meeting host13:04
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WebsterssRemoved: [I2] 'Understanding Sociocracy (by: Dr. Hubbard)'13:04
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Websterss**Agenda for 'LH77 - SJC Board Meeting'** [✅ ACTIVE]13:04
Websterss   4. [I5] Checkout. (by: jkollie)13:04
jkollieHi smohamud13:54
jkolliehttps://meet.mayfirst.org/sjcmeeting13:55
smohamudHi Janet :)13:55
jelknerHello jkollie and smohamud!13:55
jelknerjkollie, i'll only be able to be on irc today.13:56
jkollieHi jeff13:56
jelkneri'm in a laundromat where i can get wifi13:56
jkolliethat's okay jelkner13:56
jelknerhello thomasboimah 13:57
thomasboimahGood morning jelkner!13:57
jelkneri saw your emails with dr. hubbard13:57
jelknerlooks like you're off to a good start with that13:57
thomasboimah+113:57
jelknerthomasboimah, have you communinicated with smohamud about that project?13:58
jelknerGood morning Stephen13:58
thomasboimahYes I and smohamud been talking about it13:58
jelknerGood morning devesh 13:58
deveshGood morning jelkner 13:58
jkolliehttps://meet.mayfirst.org/sjcmeeting13:59
jkolliethis is the meeting link13:59
jelknerjkollie: i can't do jitsi13:59
thomasboimah!agenda13:59
Websterss**Agenda for 'LH77 - SJC Board Meeting'** [✅ ACTIVE]13:59
Websterss   4. [I5] Checkout. (by: jkollie)13:59
jkollieI understand jelkner14:00
jkolliewe can decideto chat here instead14:00
jelkner+114:00
jelkneri think it is better to strive to learn to do that anyway14:01
jelknerirc rocks! ;-)14:01
smohamudStephen - are you still available to meet after the meeting to discuss the NWD project collaboration?14:01
jkollieits 2:2 pm my time now14:03
jkollieand we should be started14:03
jkollie!agenda LH7714:04
Websterss**Agenda for 'LH77 - SJC Board Meeting'** [✅ ACTIVE]14:04
Websterss   4. [I5] Checkout. (by: jkollie)14:04
jelknerI'm excited about getting back to VA to start the new school year, and i can stay for the hour long meeting.14:05
jkollieI'm doing great and I will stay till the end of the meeting14:06
thomasboimahI'm doing good, I can stay till the end of the meeting14:06
smohamudI'm doing great in Nairobi, can stay till the end of the meeting14:06
StephenGood morning14:07
vhazariI am well and I can stay until the end of the meeting.14:08
jelknerhello arya_, vhazari and Ved!14:09
VedHi! Good to be here.14:09
arya_hello !14:09
jkollieIf that's everyone we can move on to item 214:09
jelknerhello Cjones!14:09
smohamud+114:10
jelknerjkollie, i'm ready when you are14:10
CjonesHello sorry for the trouble!14:10
jkollieI am14:10
jelknertell me when to start14:11
vhazariHello! jelkner14:11
jkolliego adhead jelkner14:11
jelknercool14:11
jelknerok, i wrote a blog post and followed up with an email with a proposal to reorganize SJC along sociocracy lines14:12
jelknerthe motivation for this i believe is clear14:12
jelknerwe want to become an organization that *does things*, and sociocracy is a form of organization aimed at just that14:12
jelknerso i don't know if any of you did not see the blog and email?14:13
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jelkneri want to ask us what people think, and if we are in agreement, how to move forward14:13
jelknerACTION done14:13
arya_I think it looks great !14:14
smohamud+114:14
devesh+114:14
CjonesI’m open to trying it out. Especially if it’s already working well for novaweb14:15
StephenWhat is going wrong now that turning SJC into a sociocracy will address?14:15
jelknerStephen: do you want me to answer?14:16
StephenYes14:16
jelknerWell, i think we are not accomplishing nearly as much as we could be14:16
StephenOk, but how will a sociocracy address that?14:16
jelknerStephen, did you get a chance to see the email i sent?14:17
StephenApparently not. Sorry...14:17
jelknerBasically, we would form project circles around concrete projects14:17
jelknerah, then you and i should talk outside the meeting14:17
StephenOk...14:17
jelknersince there is a video series, a blog, and an email that you need to digest before we talk14:18
jelkneri'll call you when i get back14:18
StephenHowever, if the majority votes for it, there's no reason for me to hold it back...14:18
jelknerdo others have questions or need more time?14:18
jelknerso far we have 5 +1s14:18
jelknerand one person with questions14:19
jelknerStephen: part of the idea of sociocracy is to try to address concerns14:19
jelknerlike the one you raised14:19
CjonesI have questions about the “membership org” proposal, but I think that’s separate?14:19
jelknerand to achieve "consent"14:19
jelknerCjones: what is "membership org"?14:20
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jelkneroops14:20
Ved+114:20
jelknerjkollie?14:21
jelknerCjones: don't know if you saw my question?14:21
jelknerWhich was "what do you mean by 'membership or'"?14:21
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jelknerjkollie: what do you think?14:22
jkolliethe membership org, is about creating an organizatons to that will send 14:24
jkolliea single member to represent their organization14:24
jkollieonthe board14:24
jelknerah, you are talking about the "board" and the general circle14:24
jkollieyeah14:24
jelkneri have questions about that too14:25
CjonesSorry, my phone keeps disconnecting. Jeff your email had two proposals. One was about sociopathy and the other was about updating our charter to become a membership organization14:25
jelknerah yes14:25
Cjones*sociocracy14:25
jelknerthey are related14:25
jkolliesince we can't have too many board members14:25
jelknerand we don't want to rush this, since it is a learning opportunity for all of us14:25
StephenMaybe table this and have a meeting in one week when we can talk rather than type?14:25
jelknertyping is great Stephen 14:26
jelknerwe get an automatic log14:26
jkollie+114:26
jelknerand we don't need to select a note taker ;-)14:26
jelknersince we are all note takers14:26
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jelknerStephen: as someone who has been part of organizations that used irc as their main meeting platform for decades14:27
jelkneri can say that it can work really well!14:27
jelknerprovided:14:27
jelkner1. the participants can keyboard14:27
jelkner2. they learn how to use it effectively14:28
jelkneri admit that 1 is not always easy to assume14:28
jelknerbut i figured for us, we could assume thqt14:28
jelknerthat14:28
StephenI  believe you are at +6, is that a majority?14:28
jelkneryes, Stephen 14:28
jelknerbut in keeping with sociocracy14:29
StephenOk, so then sociocracy passes...14:29
jelknerwe don't just want majority14:29
jelknerwe want consent14:29
jelkneri'll talk to you about that when i call you14:29
StephenOk...14:29
jelknerbut it seems we have a general agreement to move forward14:29
jelknerjkollie: i'll volunteer to reach out to each of our members to talk with them one-on-one more about thius14:30
jkollieokay we can now move to the next agenda14:30
jelknerthis14:30
jelknerback to jkollie and cjones question14:30
jelknerthe idea is this14:30
jkollieokay jelkner14:30
jelknerTo be a member of SJC means being part of its work14:30
jelknerin other words, actively involved in at least one of its projects14:30
jelknerprojects are organized into circles for management / governance14:31
jelknerso each member of SJC must be in at least one circle14:31
jelknercircles select their own leaders to be part of the *general circle*14:31
jelknerthe concern of which is directing the over all organization14:32
jelknerthat circle will be the board for the purposes of VA SCC14:32
jelknerjkollie: can we put this on the agenda for next month too?14:32
jkolliesure14:32
jelknerso i can do what i just committed to doing between now and then, and we can have an even more informed discussion at our next meeting14:33
jelknerACTION done14:33
jkolliethanks jelkner14:33
thomasboimah!agenda14:34
Websterss**Agenda for 'LH77 - SJC Board Meeting'** [✅ ACTIVE]14:34
Websterss   4. [I5] Checkout. (by: jkollie)14:34
jkollieagenda item AOB14:34
cjonesNone from me. Excited about potential new circles. I’ve been in a bit more touch with Arlington digital equity coalition and excited to connect us with them14:35
jelkneranyone want to volunteer to help me with the membership outreach? arya_, how about you?14:35
jelkneri could use a collaborator14:35
vhazariI wanted to announce that I will be stepping down from the board.14:36
arya_jeff sounds good 14:36
vhazariIt has been wonderful working with you all, and I wish you the best in your endeavors!14:36
jelknerthanks for letting us know, vhazari, and thanks for your service!14:36
smohamudWishing you the best vhazari and thank you for your efforts.14:37
jelknervhazari: remember, you will always be a founder14:37
jelknerarya_: i'll call you next week to talk about our next steps14:38
vhazariThanks guys14:38
arya_+114:38
jkollieits okay vhazari, thanks a lot for your effort14:38
jkollieokay all, we can now move to check-out14:39
cjonesI need to drop now. Jelker- looking forward to connecting in person this week!14:40
jkolliethanks all for joining, it was great having you all 14:40
jelknercjones: see you in school soon cjones!14:40
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jelknerproductive meeting14:40
jelknerwe are moving forward14:40
StephenThomas, can you stay in the video chat after the meeting to discuss the apps?14:40
jelknerthanks, jkollie!14:41
thomasboimah+114:41
jkollieyou are welcome jelkner14:41
Stephen+114:41
jelknerare we finished, jkollie?14:41
jelkneri need to fold my laundry ;-)14:41
jkollie+1 jelkner!14:42
jkollieits check-out14:42
VedBye!14:42
jelkneruntil next month then...14:42
jkolliebye Ved!14:42
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vhazariGoodbye all!14:42
jkolliesee you all next month, except vhazari14:43
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