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| Websterss | !stop - Deactivate active meeting | 13:05 |
| Websterss | !add [id] <item> - Add agenda item (any meeting) | 13:05 |
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| dcammue_ | Good morning jelkner | 13:31 |
| jelkner | Good morning dcammue and jkollie | 13:37 |
| dcammue_ | yeah, how is going? | 13:38 |
| dcammue_ | getting ready for the board meeet, yes! | 13:38 |
| jelkner | Yes! | 13:39 |
| jkollie | good morning jelkner | 13:43 |
| jkollie | how are you doing today? | 13:44 |
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| jkollie | jelkner | 13:50 |
| jelkner | jkollie | 13:51 |
| jkollie | Howare you today? | 13:51 |
| jkollie | *are* | 13:51 |
| jelkner | getting ready for the meeting | 13:51 |
| jkollie | same here | 13:52 |
| jelkner | where is Thomas? | 13:52 |
| jkollie | Thomas went to church | 13:53 |
| jelkner | So he won't be at the meeting? | 13:54 |
| dcammue_ | He might be on his way then | 13:54 |
| jelkner | i hope so | 13:54 |
| jelkner | since his project is a big part of our discussion | 13:54 |
| jelkner | hello devesh! | 13:58 |
| jelkner | great to see you. | 13:58 |
| devesh | hey jelkner! | 13:58 |
| jelkner | devesh, have you been following the emails? | 13:58 |
| devesh | i have for the last few days. i heard about the grant | 13:58 |
| jelkner | more importantly, the circles | 13:59 |
| jkollie | jelkner should we join jitsi? | 13:59 |
| jelkner | we are trying to reorganize as a membership organization | 13:59 |
| jelkner | Good morning Dr. Hubbard! | 14:00 |
| Stephen | Good morning/afternoon all.. | 14:00 |
| jelkner | jkollie, madam president, it's show time! | 14:00 |
| jkollie | It is jelkner | 14:00 |
| jkollie | !start 3X4G | 14:01 |
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| jelkner | +1 | 14:01 |
| jelkner | could everyone just put +1 in the chat | 14:01 |
| jelkner | so they mark their presence | 14:01 |
| jkollie | +1 | 14:01 |
| devesh | +1 | 14:02 |
| Stephen | +1 | 14:02 |
| jelkner | jkollie, so you mind if i help guide this meeting today? | 14:02 |
| jelkner | don't know what happened to dcammue_ | 14:02 |
| jelkner | but even if it's just the 4 of us | 14:03 |
| jelkner | we can get a lot done | 14:03 |
| jkollie | I dont mind jelkner | 14:03 |
| jkollie | lets start | 14:04 |
| jelkner | so the standard practice in sociocracy is to start with a "check-in" round | 14:04 |
| jelkner | just state briefly how you are feeling today and whether you can stay for the whole meeting | 14:05 |
| jelkner | The weather here is beautiful and i'm feeling good this morning. I can stay for the whole meeting. | 14:05 |
| aryachudiwale | hello! | 14:05 |
| dcammue_ | ACTION is here | 14:05 |
| jelkner | Stephen, how are you doing? | 14:06 |
| jelkner | great to see you aryachudiwale | 14:06 |
| Stephen | Good this morning, thanks... | 14:06 |
| jkollie | Am doing great and I will stay till the end of the meeting | 14:06 |
| aryachudiwale | good to see you too jelkner | 14:06 |
| jelkner | dcammue_? | 14:06 |
| dcammue_ | I am doing fine and will end the meeting | 14:06 |
| jelkner | aryachudiwale? | 14:07 |
| aryachudiwale | i am doing great and i can stay till the end of the meeting | 14:07 |
| dcammue_ | *still till the end of the meeting | 14:07 |
| devesh | I am doing well and can stay for the entire meeting. | 14:07 |
| jelkner | super | 14:07 |
| jelkner | so there one BIG proposal to discuss, which i sent out in an email | 14:07 |
| jelkner | did folks get a chance to look at that? | 14:07 |
| jkollie | !agenda 3X4G | 14:08 |
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| jkollie | Yes jelkner | 14:08 |
| jelkner | so the consent process goes like this: | 14:09 |
| jelkner | we have a round where folks ask clarifying questions | 14:09 |
| jelkner | then we have a round where folks can either raise crucial objections, or consent to moving forward with the proposal | 14:09 |
| jelkner | let's start with clarifying questions. | 14:10 |
| Stephen | Jeff, what is the BIG proposal? | 14:10 |
| jelkner | in my email, Stephen | 14:10 |
| jelkner | can we give folks a chance to read it? | 14:10 |
| jelkner | it is related to what we agreed last month, Stephen | 14:10 |
| jelkner | i'm just trying to take concrete steps now to make it happen | 14:11 |
| Stephen | This is for the record, which is why we are typing here and not talking, so if you type out what the proposal is it will be in the record... | 14:11 |
| jelkner | 1. Change board.and.friends@sjcompute.org to | 14:12 |
| jelkner | friends@sjcompute.org. | 14:12 |
| jelkner | 2. Begin the process of updating the members@sjcompute.org list so | 14:12 |
| jelkner | that it only contains people active in one of our project circles | 14:12 |
| jelkner | (we need to keep a list of these members up-to-date). | 14:12 |
| jelkner | 3. Purge the sebusinessclub@sjcompute.org and update it with the | 14:12 |
| jelkner | students who are working on planning the Next System Solidarity | 14:12 |
| jelkner | Economy Teach-In for April 2027. | 14:12 |
| jelkner | 4. Begin putting the general circle in place with a circle leader | 14:12 |
| jelkner | from each project circle. These circle leaders will soon comprise | 14:12 |
| jelkner | the board@sjcompute.org and be listed as our board on our next | 14:12 |
| jelkner | annual report. It will undoubtedly take a few months to get this | 14:12 |
| jelkner | in place, but we need to start now to be ready when the report | 14:12 |
| jelkner | comes due. | 14:12 |
| jelkner | I further propose that we contract with JWD to do this work. | 14:12 |
| jelkner | i am hoping these monthly meetings can quickly evolve into circle reports and general circle discussion | 14:13 |
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| jelkner | pasting long reports into the chat here isn't the best practice | 14:14 |
| dcammue_ | sorry folks!! | 14:14 |
| jelkner | so we should setup a git repo where reports can be written and published | 14:15 |
| jelkner | and then links can be put in the meeting minutes | 14:15 |
| jelkner | our meeting is small | 14:15 |
| jelkner | let's take each of us one-by-one | 14:15 |
| jelkner | devesh, what project of SJC do you see you self working on? | 14:16 |
| aryachudiwale | what are all of the projects | 14:16 |
| devesh | I had a quick question about that- which projects would you say can be effectively done remotely | 14:16 |
| jelkner | i think most of them, devesh | 14:17 |
| jelkner | aryachudiwale, have you seen my emails? | 14:17 |
| jelkner | i took time to write up this over the last two months | 14:18 |
| jelkner | and send it out | 14:18 |
| jelkner | some of what i wrote is vaporware | 14:18 |
| jelkner | that's our main task now | 14:18 |
| jelkner | to see what projects actually have legs | 14:18 |
| jelkner | to support them, add them to our website, and help them move | 14:19 |
| aryachudiwale | jelkner yes i have. i just thought it might be good to have them in the logs so people who aren't present can follow along | 14:19 |
| jelkner | aryachudiwale, the problem is, that people who aren't showing are suggesting they don't have the time to participate | 14:19 |
| jelkner | i know i'm stretched pretty thin | 14:19 |
| jelkner | i want to meet each month with folks who want to do things | 14:20 |
| jelkner | and help make that happen | 14:20 |
| jelkner | it seems to me that three circles are represented here now: | 14:20 |
| jelkner | 1. Digital Equity Circle (jelkner) | 14:20 |
| jelkner | 2. Tech-Coop Development Circle (jkollie) | 14:21 |
| jelkner | 3. Social Justice Reporter (Stephan) | 14:21 |
| jelkner | i was hoping the Emergency Care Liberia circle would be represented | 14:21 |
| jelkner | but no one is here from it | 14:22 |
| jelkner | the new "board" is going to be made up of circle leaders | 14:22 |
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| jelkner | so i'm not sure where you want to go now? | 14:23 |
| jelkner | Stephen, can you report? | 14:23 |
| Stephen | Yes, what would you like to know... | 14:23 |
| jelkner | what did your circle do over the last month, what challenges does it face, and what are you plans for the month ahead? | 14:24 |
| Stephen | The prototype is in development and the plans ahead are to... | 14:24 |
| Stephen | 1. Hopefully finish the initial prototype in by the end of November | 14:25 |
| Stephen | 2. Get the fundraising effort under way. For that, I need to know what our tax year is and to get a copy of our tax returns for last year | 14:25 |
| jelkner | we just did (i forget what it is called, but i think it is a postcard) | 14:26 |
| jelkner | it was nothing | 14:26 |
| Stephen | 3. The tax returns will enable me to start going after a Guidestar raiting and other non-profit rating agencies so when we release a funding raising effort, we look dependable... | 14:26 |
| jelkner | ok, so this would be a good time to talk about that | 14:27 |
| jelkner | but first, Stephen, i wanted to know if you knew about this: https://www.nibcoalition.com/ ? | 14:27 |
| Stephen | I need to know what our Administrative overhead is so we don't look like a vanity project that funds someone's lifestyle vs. doing actual work... | 14:28 |
| jelkner | i attended the DC CWB Alliance meeting yesterday | 14:28 |
| jelkner | and i ran into a friend there who told me he was heading to Philadelphia next week for a National Infrastructure Bank conference | 14:29 |
| Stephen | Yes, I was a member for 2 years and one of their presenters during our meetings with US House and Senate staff. They are going nowhere but look really good on a website... | 14:29 |
| jelkner | but isn't our goal to push them to go somewhere? | 14:30 |
| jelkner | jkollie, dcammue_ i am concerned that after our meeting yesterday, there aren't more JWD folks here today | 14:30 |
| jelkner | i feel a bit stuck | 14:30 |
| jelkner | so let me update everyone on what i hoped would happen now, and try to figure out what to do in JWD's absence | 14:31 |
| jelkner | JWD is asking me to send more money | 14:31 |
| jelkner | they say they are running low | 14:31 |
| jelkner | i told them that the new rules are that i only send money when there is an invoice for work | 14:31 |
| Stephen | Ok, if they are running low on money, would it be appropriate if at least one of them was here in the meeting? | 14:32 |
| jelkner | of all the projects i'm involved in, SJC is the one that i want to focus on immediately | 14:32 |
| jelkner | Yes, Stephen, i agree! | 14:32 |
| jelkner | dcammue_ is here | 14:32 |
| jelkner | but i thought Thomas would be too | 14:33 |
| jkollie | and am here | 14:33 |
| jelkner | yes, jkollie | 14:33 |
| jelkner | so we have to have this discussion with the two of you | 14:33 |
| dcammue_ | +1 | 14:33 |
| jelkner | here is what i want for the $1K you are asking for: | 14:33 |
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| jelkner | 1. I want at least bi-weekly customer meetings with Stephen documented where you check-in on progress on his web app | 14:34 |
| jelkner | 2. I want updates to the SJC website to make it look more professional and to feature the three projects we are currently working on | 14:35 |
| jelkner | 3. I want JWD to get the access they need to SJC financial info (could be just me sending PDF of bank statements) | 14:35 |
| jelkner | and to set up our books in Gnucash so they can report to us next month on our financials | 14:36 |
| jelkner | Stephen, what do you think? | 14:36 |
| dcammue_ | okay, well noted jelkner | 14:37 |
| Stephen | Seems fine, thanks. | 14:37 |
| jelkner | so, JWD, this is going to be the test | 14:37 |
| dcammue_ | okay, jelkner | 14:38 |
| Stephen | I can put in another $250 dollars, Jeff... | 14:38 |
| jkollie | well understood jelkner! | 14:38 |
| jelkner | hold off for a month, Stephen | 14:38 |
| jelkner | you've already put in $500 | 14:38 |
| Stephen | Ok... | 14:38 |
| jelkner | so they will get $1500 when i do the transfer | 14:38 |
| jelkner | we need this to be sustainable | 14:39 |
| jelkner | so please keep some in reserve for next month | 14:39 |
| jelkner | by which time, Stephen, i hope to hear that you are happy with the progress | 14:39 |
| jelkner | and the communication kinks have been resolved | 14:39 |
| jelkner | so that everyone working on your project is on the same page with you | 14:39 |
| jelkner | Thomas isn't here, unfortunately | 14:40 |
| jelkner | but he said he has made updates | 14:40 |
| jelkner | but he can't deploy them because he doesn't have access to the server | 14:40 |
| jelkner | that is not a tenable situation | 14:40 |
| Stephen | Tinevimbo made some major updates, but I have not had the time to look at them yet... | 14:40 |
| jelkner | according to Thomas, he made the changes and notified Tinevimbo | 14:41 |
| jelkner | this is what i'm talking about | 14:41 |
| jelkner | if Tinevimbo doesn't grant Thomas the access he needs | 14:41 |
| jelkner | and we block on him (Tinevimbo) | 14:42 |
| jelkner | we can't hold Thomas responsible | 14:42 |
| jelkner | i was hoping Thomas would be here to speak to this | 14:42 |
| Stephen | Ok, I did not know Thomas did not have access to the updates... | 14:42 |
| jelkner | ok, i think that's it for your circle, yes? | 14:42 |
| aryachudiwale | sorry i got disconnected for a second | 14:42 |
| jelkner | np | 14:43 |
| Stephen | Yes... | 14:43 |
| Stephen | That's my fault if Thomas did not have access... | 14:43 |
| jelkner | let's just resolve it | 14:43 |
| jelkner | ok, cjones and i are *very* busy with the Linux Laptops for Learning project | 14:44 |
| jelkner | as you can see in my emails, we will be attending a conference in Ohio in February | 14:44 |
| jelkner | where I am hoping to give a lighting talk promoting our work | 14:44 |
| jelkner | so i really need the website to be up to date | 14:45 |
| jelkner | svaye_, how are you are writing? | 14:45 |
| jelkner | we need someone who can really write to create content for our website | 14:46 |
| svaye_ | I am good jelkner , I would be honored to create the content | 14:46 |
| jelkner | we need to have a tab that talks about the Solidarity Economy Teach-In we are planning | 14:46 |
| svaye_ | So do we have a topic? jelkner | 14:47 |
| jelkner | we need another one that describes our longer term vision for building a school in Liberia to teach "people's tech" and to promote the solidarity economy more generally | 14:47 |
| jelkner | i just listed two topics, svaye_ | 14:47 |
| jelkner | there are more | 14:48 |
| jelkner | each of our projects should be featured on the website | 14:48 |
| jelkner | we need to to be compelling | 14:48 |
| jelkner | to tell our story | 14:48 |
| jelkner | so that we can interest others in supporting our work | 14:48 |
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| jelkner | devesh, where do you want to participate? | 14:49 |
| jelkner | you have to be in a circle to be a member | 14:49 |
| devesh | I don'r know if this is officially a "circle" yet, but I'd love to write for the website | 14:49 |
| devesh | If we need people for that | 14:50 |
| jelkner | and you have to be a circle leader to be in the general circle (on the board) | 14:50 |
| jelkner | we can make it a circle | 14:50 |
| jelkner | with two members, svaye_ and devesh | 14:50 |
| devesh | Sounds good | 14:50 |
| jelkner | two content creators is probably enough | 14:51 |
| jelkner | so devesh and svaye_ | 14:51 |
| svaye_ | yes jelkner | 14:51 |
| jelkner | you need to make that happen before our meeting next month | 14:51 |
| jelkner | i'll be expecting to share the website | 14:51 |
| jelkner | and to discuss the improvements that have been made | 14:51 |
| jelkner | and to look for additional things to be added the following month | 14:52 |
| jelkner | by February, it needs to rock! | 14:52 |
| devesh | jelkner: anything specific content wise we should focus on before our meeting next month? | 14:52 |
| jelkner | devesh, did you see my emails? | 14:53 |
| jelkner | we need a way to have each circle have it's own page | 14:53 |
| jelkner | think broadly about telling the SJC story through our website | 14:53 |
| jelkner | who are we? what are doing? | 14:53 |
| jelkner | how can people contribute to our work? | 14:54 |
| jelkner | devesh, what more do you need to start? | 14:54 |
| jelkner | devesh, you and svaye_ can email me questions | 14:54 |
| jelkner | i'm going to modify the email lists | 14:54 |
| devesh | Got it. That makes sense | 14:54 |
| jelkner | like i said in my last email | 14:54 |
| jelkner | friends@sjcompute.org will be the general one | 14:55 |
| jelkner | it will reach the sjc members, JWD and NWD | 14:55 |
| jelkner | and the sebusiness club | 14:55 |
| jelkner | which is going to be the 9 students i have working on a Tech-In for April | 14:56 |
| jelkner | 4 minutes left | 14:56 |
| jelkner | anything else? | 14:56 |
| svaye_ | devesh, do you want us to communicate via email, whatsApp, Hexchat or all the above? | 14:56 |
| devesh | whatsApp works for me | 14:56 |
| jkollie | jelkner can you and i talk a bit on jitsi? | 14:57 |
| Stephen | whatsApp is good for me too... | 14:57 |
| jelkner | i can call you on Signal, jkollie | 14:57 |
| jelkner | right after the meeting | 14:57 |
| jkollie | okay jelkner | 14:57 |
| jelkner | our next meeting is 11/15 | 14:58 |
| svaye_ | Alright WhatsApp it is, what time would be good for us to chat devesh? | 14:58 |
| devesh | I'm pretty flexible | 14:59 |
| devesh | Does any specific timeframe work best for you? | 14:59 |
| jelkner | alright everyone, see you later! | 14:59 |
| jelkner | jkollie, i'll call you in a few minutes | 14:59 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off | 14:59 |
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| Stephen | bye all.. | 14:59 |
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| dcammue | bye all | 15:00 |
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