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| ubuntourist | !remind | 10:25 |
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| ubuntourist | !remind Down to the wire on the Gallaudet ARA / RAGU project. | 10:26 |
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| +jelkner : @ubuntourist : hrodriguez : lbolz : @mjsir911 : wolcen : @ChanServ | 11:00 | |
| Down to the wire on the Gallaudet ARA / RAGU project. (ubuntourist) | 11:00 | |
| mjsir911 | :|, webfaction's clock is drifting | 11:00 |
| jelkner | yes, mjsir911, could you please fix that? | 11:02 |
| jelkner | btw. we need a restaurant | 11:03 |
| ubuntourist | Shhhowtime! | 11:03 |
| mjsir911 | I cannot, this is webfaction's problem | 11:03 |
| jelkner | ahh | 11:03 |
| mjsir911 | or at least I don't know how | 11:03 |
| jelkner | so moving Big_Brother to our own server? | 11:04 |
| mjsir911 | I guess.. | 11:04 |
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| ubuntourist | So, without our bretren and "sistren"? from elsewhere, we MAY be "face-to-face" this week, Which means no logging... | 11:05 |
| jelkner | there you are, GFbot | 11:05 |
| ubuntourist | Oops. | 11:05 |
| ubuntourist | Spoke too soon. | 11:05 |
| ubuntourist | So. | 11:05 |
| GFbot | Hello there! | 11:05 |
| jelkner | we were worried you weren't going to make it | 11:05 |
| GFbot | Im here | 11:05 |
| ubuntourist | Item 1: Look at and discuss new NOVA Web Development website (nrcerna and GFbot) (jelkner) | 11:05 |
| ubuntourist | GFbot, You're up. | 11:06 |
| jelkner | this is GFbot | 11:06 |
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| jelkner | oh GFbot | 11:06 |
| jelkner | we're all hear waiting for you... | 11:07 |
| ubuntourist | (To reiterate for our new joinee...) | 11:07 |
| ubuntourist | Item 1: Look at and discuss new NOVA Web Development website (nrcerna and GFbot) (jelkner) | 11:07 |
| GFbot | Yes? | 11:07 |
| ubuntourist | GFbot, You're up. | 11:07 |
| GFbot | Oh | 11:07 |
| ubuntourist | GFbot, meaning, you have the floor (Item 1 of the agenda). | 11:08 |
| jelkner | you're supposed to show us our new website | 11:08 |
| GFbot | Well our new site is ready to be test | 11:08 |
| jelkner | and, GFbot, where is it? | 11:09 |
| GFbot | novawebdevelopment.com:27960 | 11:09 |
| jelkner | thnx! | 11:09 |
| GFbot | Thats the dev | 11:09 |
| ubuntourist | And is there anything special we should do to beat on it, try features, etc.? | 11:09 |
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| SIBarbu | ACTION is back | 11:09 |
| ubuntourist | http://irclogs.novawebdevelopment.org/%23novawebdev/2019-09-29.log.html | 11:10 |
| GFbot | It would be good if you test | 11:10 |
| jelkner | GFbot, how do we login? | 11:10 |
| GFbot | Forums, events and memberships | 11:10 |
| ubuntourist | SIBarbu, the above links to today's IRC log. | 11:10 |
| GFbot | novawebdevelopment.com:27960/login | 11:11 |
| jelkner | sweet | 11:11 |
| GFbot | Using the url | 11:11 |
| jelkner | that's what we want | 11:11 |
| SIBarbu | ubuntourist, I got it | 11:11 |
| GFbot | And your novawebdev account | 11:11 |
| GFbot | If you have superuser or admin you'll see our dashboard | 11:12 |
| GFbot | Where you can go and test things | 11:12 |
| ubuntourist | GFbot, people who can are logging in now. | 11:13 |
| GFbot | Cool | 11:13 |
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| jelkner | GFbot, you're back | 11:14 |
| jelkner | GFbot, question | 11:14 |
| GFbot | Now you can create forums, topics | 11:15 |
| ubuntourist | So. jelkner and I are logged in. | 11:15 |
| GFbot | And reply them | 11:15 |
| GFbot | Yes? | 11:15 |
| jelkner | GFbot, you will be migrating this database when the site goes live, yes? | 11:15 |
| jelkner | so data we put in here we get to keep, is that correct? | 11:15 |
| jelkner | GFbot, yes? | 11:16 |
| GFbot | Douglas gave me a good suggetion about that | 11:16 |
| jelkner | do tell | 11:16 |
| jelkner | GFbot, we're waiting | 11:17 |
| GFbot | Do not use our main database and make a copy and use it as main | 11:17 |
| ubuntourist | (16 minutes remaining -- if we're sticking to schedule) | 11:17 |
| jelkner | +1 | 11:17 |
| jelkner | good | 11:17 |
| jelkner | so we can add lbolz and SIBarbu and hrodriguez to this one | 11:17 |
| GFbot | So im going to.make a new migrate | 11:17 |
| jelkner | and when we move, their accounts will move too | 11:17 |
| jelkner | and our forums | 11:17 |
| jelkner | etc | 11:17 |
| jelkner | if that is true, let's plan to add them at the end of the meeting | 11:18 |
| GFbot | And the database that you are using on dev right now | 11:18 |
| GFbot | It Will be there but we wont use it | 11:18 |
| jelkner | hmmm? | 11:18 |
| jelkner | i'm confused | 11:18 |
| jelkner | i thought i just asked the opposite of that | 11:18 |
| jelkner | this is the same conversation we have had many times before | 11:19 |
| GFbot | Its hard to explain but its a good method thst douglas told mr | 11:19 |
| GFbot | Me* | 11:19 |
| jelkner | so, do we use this instance, or wait for you to move it? | 11:19 |
| GFbot | Use this | 11:19 |
| jelkner | we don't have time to put data in that will be lost | 11:19 |
| GFbot | Im just saying | 11:19 |
| GFbot | This devsite database | 11:20 |
| GFbot | Can be break for you to test | 11:20 |
| jelkner | yes, we know it might have bugs | 11:20 |
| jelkner | but if we get data into it, we get to keep the data, yes? | 11:20 |
| SIBarbu | jelkner I think he is saying there might be a chance to lose data if there's a bug | 11:21 |
| GFbot | If everything works im going to make a new one for official site | 11:21 |
| GFbot | Using our first database | 11:21 |
| jelkner | you mean the old database? | 11:21 |
| GFbot | Yes the old migrated to tendenci11 | 11:21 |
| ubuntourist | GFbot, If we either put "real" data in (logins, passwords, meetings, etc) we will want the real data to migrate. | 11:21 |
| GFbot | Oh men i think i dont know how to explain | 11:22 |
| jelkner | so, should i wait for natalia? | 11:22 |
| jelkner | i meet with her tomorrow | 11:22 |
| jelkner | at 9:30 am | 11:22 |
| jelkner | we keep having this same conversation | 11:23 |
| jelkner | and need to figure out how to move forward | 11:23 |
| GFbot | If you want but you can test the site already | 11:23 |
| ubuntourist | GFbot, If you say "ready" it means you've already tested enough to feel confident that we can start using it. Yes, there's a chance of data loss, but hopefully you | 11:23 |
| jelkner | i don't want | 11:23 |
| jelkner | since i don't have time | 11:23 |
| ubuntourist | have a bit of confidence that the chances are low. | 11:23 |
| jelkner | when i put in data | 11:23 |
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| jelkner | it will be data i want to keep | 11:23 |
| jelkner | if i know i'm going to loose it | 11:24 |
| ubuntourist | ANYWAY... Now at 21 minutes into the meeting... | 11:24 |
| jelkner | i won't put it in | 11:24 |
| nrcerna | I was doing a quick readinf of the meeting jelkner | 11:24 |
| nrcerna | Reading* | 11:24 |
| GFbot | -.- | 11:24 |
| ubuntourist | Item 2: Introduce Stefan and vote on whether to accept him as an intern. | 11:24 |
| jelkner | i move that we invite stephan to be an intern with us | 11:24 |
| jelkner | i mean stefan | 11:25 |
| jelkner | is there a 2nd? | 11:25 |
| SIBarbu | oh that's me | 11:25 |
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| ubuntourist | Aye. We met at PyCon last year, and 't'will be good to have him aboard. | 11:25 |
| jelkner | GFbot, | 11:26 |
| jelkner | do you approve? | 11:26 |
| GFbot | :D? | 11:26 |
| jelkner | we are voting, GFbot | 11:26 |
| GFbot | Ah | 11:27 |
| GFbot | 1+ from me its good | 11:27 |
| SIBarbu | It is official! | 11:27 |
| ubuntourist | SIBarbu, My condolences: You're an official intern. ;-) | 11:27 |
| ubuntourist | Moving on. Item 3: Gallaudet. | 11:27 |
| SIBarbu | :-) | 11:28 |
| ubuntourist | Specifically the Annual Report of Achievements / Research at Gallaudet University (ARA / RAGU) project. | 11:28 |
| jelkner | ACTION notes that ubuntourist should give SIBarbu a tour of that today | 11:29 |
| ubuntourist | Susan at Gallaudet expects the "unwashed masses" (researchers, students, et al) across campus to be done providing data and her editing to be finished by Tuesday. | 11:29 |
| ubuntourist | That means Tuesday or Wednesday, z0nny and/or myself (ubuntourist) will be on hand for the "book generation" portion: | 11:30 |
| jelkner | the 3K check is in our account, btw | 11:30 |
| jelkner | we should discuss that today after the meeting, ubuntourist | 11:30 |
| ubuntourist | This is where Django generates a book chapter by extracting and combining all of the elements from various database tables, and formats them consistently. | 11:31 |
| ubuntourist | Once that's done, the contract is "done". We will have helped them limp through another year. | 11:32 |
| GFbot | Jeff if you have time after meeting, natalia wants to talk about novawebsite she has a moment for that. | 11:33 |
| ubuntourist | Finally on that: Although every year they say they'll move to a new system, I've already heard rumblings that the new, miracle system (InterFolio) will not | 11:33 |
| ubuntourist | be the solution to end all solutions. So, Charles at Gallaudet is already saying "more work for NWD" coming. | 11:33 |
| ubuntourist | And possibly other projects. | 11:33 |
| ubuntourist | (I forget the specifics of the "other projects". Let's just get through this cycle first.) | 11:34 |
| ubuntourist | Book due by mid-October. (Book goes to US Congress and US Department of Education, among others. Many copies of the book get printed.) | 11:34 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION is done | 11:35 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, SIBarbu, let's meet about that immediately after the meeting | 11:35 |
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| SIBarbu | /me agrees | 11:35 |
| jelkner | GFbot, connection trouble? | 11:35 |
| GFbot | Yes. | 11:36 |
| ubuntourist | Anyone want to weigh in? Other topics for biz-nez? ;-) | 11:37 |
| ubuntourist | Going once... | 11:37 |
| ubuntourist | Going twice... | 11:37 |
| ubuntourist | And ... sold. Time to pick a chair for next week... | 11:37 |
| jelkner | since she's not here, i vote for nrcerna ;-) | 11:38 |
| ubuntourist | Next victim chosen, then. | 11:38 |
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| jelkner | nrcerna, we just selected you to chair next sunday | 11:39 |
| ubuntourist | !remind 2019-10-06 Chair = nrcerna | 11:39 |
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| nrcerna | Hello jelkner do you have 5 minutes? | 11:39 |
| jelkner | after the meeting yes | 11:39 |
| jelkner | i can call you | 11:40 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION drops the proverbial ball o' gravel | 11:40 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, do you want me to call now? | 11:40 |
| nrcerna | I was reading out the meeting and it seems like GFbot tried to explain but you get confused | 11:40 |
| jelkner | yes, i am confused | 11:40 |
| jelkner | i thought we had discussed this | 11:40 |
| GFbot | Help me natalia :D | 11:41 |
| nrcerna | Yes, Eduardo is going to help me to explain you better in english | 11:41 |
| jelkner | if we know we are going to loose the data | 11:41 |
| jelkner | testing is still in your hands | 11:41 |
| GFbot | We are not going to loose the data | 11:41 |
| nrcerna | We are not going to loose tdata | 11:41 |
| jelkner | oh, i thought that's what you just said | 11:41 |
| nrcerna | No | 11:41 |
| GFbot | You dont get my point so she will explain | 11:41 |
| nrcerna | replaceafill told us that We need to migrate | 11:42 |
| nrcerna | You want to add member yes jelkner? | 11:42 |
| jelkner | yes | 11:42 |
| jelkner | all our interns | 11:42 |
| nrcerna | You can do it but when the si te is running on dev | 11:43 |
| jelkner | that's what i want | 11:43 |
| GFbot | We know that | 11:43 |
| jelkner | to use the dev site as "our new site" | 11:43 |
| jelkner | cool | 11:43 |
| jelkner | then it sounds like we are ready to go? | 11:43 |
| nrcerna | Because our actual testing site, is set up to test and test, we can do abything even brake it | 11:44 |
| nrcerna | Yes | 11:44 |
| nrcerna | GFbot can push it | 11:44 |
| GFbot | My point is | 11:44 |
| nrcerna | If you want | 11:44 |
| GFbot | You can add your interns | 11:44 |
| jelkner | our interns | 11:44 |
| GFbot | But once we move it to live | 11:44 |
| GFbot | It will be a new copy | 11:45 |
| GFbot | With old data but not using data from devsit | 11:45 |
| nrcerna | Yes, the copy was replaceafill suggestion | 11:45 |
| jelkner | so, are you saying you're going to move to live now? | 11:45 |
| jelkner | and we start using that | 11:45 |
| nrcerna | +1 | 11:45 |
| jelkner | great! | 11:46 |
| jelkner | that's fine with me | 11:46 |
| nrcerna | GFbot? You can docit right? | 11:46 |
| nrcerna | Do it* | 11:46 |
| jelkner | then nrcerna and GFbot use testing for new stuff | 11:46 |
| GFbot | Mmm | 11:46 |
| jelkner | and the rest of us "test" in actual use on production | 11:46 |
| GFbot | I dont think | 11:46 |
| GFbot | Do that is good | 11:46 |
| jelkner | i'll tell you what, nrcerna | 11:47 |
| jelkner | you and GFbot work this out | 11:47 |
| jelkner | and when you agree | 11:47 |
| jelkner | tell us | 11:47 |
| jelkner | and we'll go whatever you say | 11:47 |
| jelkner | what we can't do is to do contradictory things | 11:47 |
| jelkner | so if you don't agree | 11:47 |
| GFbot | Jeff we need you to test this by your own before push it | 11:47 |
| jelkner | we're lost | 11:47 |
| GFbot | We already did it | 11:48 |
| nrcerna | We are not doing that | 11:48 |
| jelkner | we are going to rely on you | 11:48 |
| jelkner | i don't need to test it | 11:48 |
| jelkner | and i don't have time | 11:48 |
| nrcerna | GFbot: wants to be sure that you agree | 11:48 |
| nrcerna | Just that | 11:48 |
| jelkner | i can use it when you "think" it's ready | 11:48 |
| jelkner | i agree | 11:48 |
| GFbot | ok | 11:48 |
| jelkner | let's go for it1 | 11:48 |
| jelkner | ! | 11:49 |
| nrcerna | Ok, of you are okay with that GFbot can push it | 11:49 |
| jelkner | we need to take chances | 11:49 |
| jelkner | we don't have a lot of resources | 11:49 |
| jelkner | i understand it may break | 11:49 |
| jelkner | that's ok | 11:49 |
| jelkner | we understand that | 11:49 |
| jelkner | once you "think" its ready | 11:49 |
| jelkner | migrate it | 11:49 |
| jelkner | and let the rest of us have at it for real | 11:49 |
| GFbot | Ok | 11:49 |
| jelkner | real use | 11:49 |
| jelkner | real data | 11:49 |
| GFbot | Natalia will tell you when its ready | 11:50 |
| jelkner | GFbot, one thing replaceafill always did really well | 11:50 |
| GFbot | Im going to push it | 11:50 |
| jelkner | was backup the data! | 11:50 |
| jelkner | so that if it did break | 11:50 |
| jelkner | we could try to recover | 11:50 |
| GFbot | Thats what im sayibg | 11:50 |
| GFbot | 20 mins ago | 11:50 |
| jelkner | sweet | 11:50 |
| jelkner | thanks! | 11:51 |
| jelkner | let's go for it | 11:51 |
| jelkner | migrate it over | 11:51 |
| nrcerna | Sure jelkner | 11:51 |
| jelkner | and we will setup accounts for the new folks | 11:51 |
| GFbot | Ok im on it | 11:51 |
| jelkner | great | 11:52 |
| jelkner | let us know when we're ready | 11:52 |
| SIBarbu | ACTION is logging off. | 11:54 |
| nrcerna | Sure jelkner | 11:55 |
| nrcerna | I'm leaving now. | 11:57 |
| nrcerna | Im on Tacuba, Ahuchapán jelkner | 11:57 |
| nrcerna | Ahuachapán | 11:57 |
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| jelkner | mjsir911, roxana and i have our amtrak tickets | 12:04 |
| jelkner | and our AirBnB | 12:04 |
| mjsir911 | Nice, sounds good | 12:04 |
| jelkner | mjsir911, we need a restaurant | 12:05 |
| jelkner | can we do seafood? | 12:05 |
| jelkner | it's boston after all | 12:05 |
| mjsir911 | That's exactly what I was thinking | 12:05 |
| mjsir911 | uhh, I'm trying to remember the name but theres a plaza in boston proper with a bunch of stuff that I think had seafood | 12:06 |
| jelkner | We're staying near Batchelder and Marshfield Streets | 12:07 |
| jelkner | and have no car | 12:08 |
| jelkner | it's walking distance from the red line | 12:08 |
| mjsir911 | yeah, would public transit be fine? | 12:08 |
| jelkner | of course | 12:08 |
| mjsir911 | well, that's how I've been getting around for a few months now so that's the plan | 12:08 |
| jelkner | sweet | 12:08 |
| jelkner | please pick a place | 12:08 |
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| jelkner | then we need a time | 12:09 |
| jelkner | and we can email tom, and flint | 12:09 |
| jelkner | flint hasn't confirmed | 12:09 |
| jelkner | but that's typical flint | 12:09 |
| jelkner | you never can tell when hurricane flint will blow | 12:09 |
| jelkner | or where | 12:09 |
| jelkner | i think he'll join us if he can | 12:10 |
| mjsir911 | Alright | 12:10 |
| jelkner | but ubuntourist is planning on coming up too | 12:10 |
| jelkner | i hope flint brings ally | 12:10 |
| jelkner | GFbot, looks like everyone else has logged off | 12:11 |
| jelkner | but the 5 of us are here | 12:11 |
| GFbot | we just 3 | 12:12 |
| GFbot | :D | 12:12 |
| jelkner | but you can let me know when its time for us to test | 12:12 |
| jelkner | heylin needs to leave at 2 pm | 12:13 |
| jelkner | 2 hours | 12:13 |
| jelkner | rest of us here until 4 pm | 12:13 |
| GFbot | im migrating | 12:13 |
| GFbot | jelkner, you there? | 12:51 |
| GFbot | jelkner, done. | 13:02 |
| GFbot | https://novawebdevelopment.com/ | 13:02 |
| GFbot | go ahead | 13:02 |
| GFbot | :) | 13:02 |
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