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| jelkner | !agenda | 12:07 |
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| LittleWebster | Warning: There are no items on the agenda! | 12:07 |
| jelkner | !agenda Discuss Summer schedule (10 minutes) | 12:08 |
| LittleWebster | Invalid arguments. | 12:08 |
| jelkner | !add Discuss Summer schedule (10 min). | 12:08 |
| LittleWebster | Success: "Discuss Summer schedule (10 min)." has been added to the agenda. | 12:08 |
| jelkner | !agenda | 12:08 |
| LittleWebster | This is the agenda for the next meeting: | 12:08 |
| LittleWebster | Discuss Summer schedule (10 min). (added by jelkner) | 12:08 |
| fkoikoi | Good morning Jeff | 12:22 |
| svaye | Good morning Jeff | 12:22 |
| tboimah | Good morning Jeff | 12:22 |
| tboimah | !agenda | 12:28 |
| LittleWebster | This is the agenda for the next meeting: | 12:28 |
| LittleWebster | Discuss Summer schedule (10 min). (added by jelkner) | 12:28 |
| dcammue | Good morning Jeff | 12:32 |
| mulbah | Good morning Jeff | 12:49 |
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| mulbah | Good morning shmohamud | 12:51 |
| shmohamud | good day mulbah | 12:55 |
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| mulbah | How are you doing my favorite programmer | 12:56 |
| shmohamud | lol I'm good, a little groggy but I'm having coffee and waking up | 12:57 |
| shmohamud | how're you? | 12:57 |
| mulbah | I'm good too | 12:57 |
| shmohamud | good good | 12:58 |
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| scooper | good morning Shmohamud | 13:00 |
| mulbah | agenda! | 13:00 |
| tboimah | Good morning shmohamud | 13:00 |
| tboimah | !agenda | 13:00 |
| LittleWebster | This is the agenda for the next meeting: | 13:00 |
| LittleWebster | Discuss Summer schedule (10 min). (added by jelkner) | 13:00 |
| shmohamud | Good day tboimah | 13:00 |
| tboimah | I'm good and you? | 13:01 |
| dcammue | Good morning shmohamud | 13:01 |
| jelkner | Good afternoon everyone! | 13:01 |
| dcammue | Good morning Jeff | 13:01 |
| tboimah | Good morning Jeff | 13:01 |
| jelkner | I'm confused about our Summer schedule. | 13:01 |
| tboimah | hmmmm | 13:02 |
| jelkner | svaye and dcammue, I thought we were going to meet at 12 noon your time. | 13:02 |
| dcammue | Yes | 13:02 |
| jelkner | but it is now 1 pm your time, yes? | 13:02 |
| dcammue | But we having problem with the internet | 13:02 |
| jelkner | ahhh | 13:02 |
| scooper | Good morning Jeff | 13:03 |
| dcammue | that's why Jeff | 13:03 |
| jelkner | i made a mistake | 13:03 |
| scooper | what is it??? | 13:03 |
| jelkner | i always get confused with time changes and time zones | 13:03 |
| jelkner | svaye and dcammue, i will need to meet at 11 am your time | 13:03 |
| jelkner | is that possible? | 13:03 |
| dcammue | Yes Jeff | 13:04 |
| jelkner | so i can meet today | 13:04 |
| jelkner | i might be able to meet tomorrow | 13:04 |
| jelkner | at 11 am your time, briefly | 13:04 |
| jelkner | i am visiting friends | 13:04 |
| jelkner | and i don't want to be away from them for too long | 13:05 |
| svaye | We had a little internet problem today Jeff | 13:05 |
| dcammue | okay | 13:05 |
| jelkner | i'll be travelling wednesday through friday | 13:05 |
| jelkner | and monday is my first day teaching the college class | 13:05 |
| jelkner | so, i won't be able to meet that morning | 13:05 |
| scooper | wow safe travel...... | 13:05 |
| jelkner | since in need to go in early to setup | 13:06 |
| fkoikoi | safe trip jeff | 13:06 |
| jelkner | but, starting tuesday, june 27th, i should be able to meet each weekday morning at 11 am your time | 13:06 |
| dcammue | Nice one to you in your trip | 13:06 |
| jelkner | thanks! | 13:06 |
| jelkner | i'm in a very beautiful place right now | 13:06 |
| scooper | Jeff I m not active in the general chat for now.. I m a Shmohamud is working in private | 13:07 |
| jelkner | ok | 13:07 |
| jelkner | i am supposed to work with svaye and dcammue anyway scooper | 13:07 |
| svaye | Will we have class tomorrow Jeff? | 13:07 |
| dcammue | I want to make my eyes like yours to see that beautiful place too | 13:07 |
| jelkner | svaye can we have class now? | 13:08 |
| jelkner | i am available now | 13:08 |
| svaye | Of course | 13:08 |
| jelkner | let's do it | 13:08 |
| scooper | Jeff | 13:08 |
| jelkner | svaye i saw that you completed the pre-test | 13:09 |
| jelkner | thanks | 13:09 |
| jelkner | dcammue: you need to do that too | 13:09 |
| jelkner | next we need to talk about how to use the course | 13:09 |
| jelkner | tboimah sent a good email with an excellent question | 13:09 |
| scooper | did you understand my text.... | 13:09 |
| jelkner | yes, scooper | 13:09 |
| jelkner | i did | 13:09 |
| scooper | OK | 13:09 |
| jelkner | keep in mind, scooper, that there is no log in a private chat | 13:10 |
| jelkner | i will want to discuss things here | 13:10 |
| jelkner | since i know that private messages disappear | 13:10 |
| jelkner | and then there is no way to refer back to them | 13:10 |
| jelkner | but shmohamud can do whatever he likes best ;-) | 13:11 |
| svaye | Jeff daniel is enrolled right? | 13:11 |
| scooper | I know... we are using github Jeff | 13:11 |
| jelkner | oh, perfect! | 13:11 |
| jelkner | that's even better | 13:11 |
| jelkner | yes, svaye, dcammue is enrolled | 13:11 |
| jelkner | that's our first order of business | 13:11 |
| jelkner | get dcammue to login | 13:11 |
| scooper | Ok I got to go to shmohamud | 13:11 |
| jelkner | +1 | 13:11 |
| svaye | Please send his password | 13:11 |
| jelkner | hold on | 13:12 |
| jelkner | i just sent a reset password link to dcammue | 13:13 |
| svaye | Thanks Jeff we saw it | 13:13 |
| jelkner | svaye: help dcammue login and take the pretest | 13:17 |
| jelkner | after he finishes, let's talk about next steps | 13:17 |
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| jelkner | tboimah: i just emailed you | 13:25 |
| jelkner | please include kevin in *all* email correspondance | 13:26 |
| jelkner | if you email me but not him, then he won't know what is going on | 13:26 |
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| jelkner | we need to figure out how to most effectively communicate | 13:26 |
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| jelkner | or else we waste *al lot* of time | 13:26 |
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| svaye_ | We are done Jeff | 13:28 |
| shmohamud | ACTION goes to bathroom | 13:28 |
| jelkner | great | 13:29 |
| jelkner | ok where is daniel? | 13:29 |
| jelkner | i don't see him here, svaye_ | 13:29 |
| svaye_ | He's taking the pre assessment test | 13:31 |
| jelkner | super | 13:33 |
| jelkner | let me know when he is finished, and the three of us can meet | 13:33 |
| jelkner | to talk about what's next | 13:33 |
| svaye_ | Okay Jeff | 13:34 |
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| scooper | Jeff | 13:55 |
| scooper | is there no preliminary test for Python team????? | 13:55 |
| ubuntourist | Sorry all, I had a horrible night and when I finally slept, I overslept. | 13:58 |
| tboimah | Good morning ubuntourist | 13:58 |
| ubuntourist | I am only now half-awake. | 13:58 |
| ubuntourist | Hi tboimah | 13:59 |
| ubuntourist | tboimah, do you know how to start tmate and invite me? | 13:59 |
| tboimah | I am Good and you | 13:59 |
| tboimah | yeah | 13:59 |
| ubuntourist | OK. Also, is mulbah around? | 14:00 |
| tboimah | he say but he just got disconnected | 14:00 |
| tboimah | he was | 14:01 |
| tboimah | ssh jjE7BJGJDYphBYHY6VgSnT3Px@lon1.tmate.io | 14:01 |
| tboimah | that message is for you ubuntourist | 14:01 |
| ubuntourist | tboimah, Were you able to experiment with mumble and murmur? | 14:02 |
| tboimah | yeah | 14:02 |
| ubuntourist | Any luck? If so, I'll connec to my server again and we can try voice. | 14:03 |
| tboimah | okay let try that | 14:03 |
| tboimah | but you have connect to tmate now | 14:04 |
| ubuntourist | tboimah, my server is ubuntourist.studio (just accept the default port) | 14:05 |
| tboimah | okay | 14:05 |
| tboimah | I just join can you see me now | 14:09 |
| jelkner | dcammue: are you finished? | 14:11 |
| jelkner | scooper: is svaye still there? | 14:20 |
| jelkner | i'm waiting for her and dcammue | 14:20 |
| jelkner | but dcammue didn't respond to my question | 14:20 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi: can you help with that? | 14:20 |
| jelkner | ACTION goes to grab a cup of coffee | 14:20 |
| svaye | I am still here Jeff | 14:21 |
| svaye | I am waiting for dcammue to finish | 14:21 |
| shmohamud | ACTION goes to grab coffee too | 14:22 |
| jelkner | okie dokie | 14:24 |
| jelkner | we don't want to rush him | 14:24 |
| scooper | yes | 14:24 |
| scooper | she is still here | 14:24 |
| svaye | He's almost done | 14:25 |
| svaye | two more questions to go | 14:25 |
| scooper | Jeff | 14:27 |
| jelkner | Spencer | 14:27 |
| scooper | Is there any preliminary test for Python team?? | 14:28 |
| scooper | I mean the since thing that the Web team is doing right now????? | 14:28 |
| dcammue | I done Jeff | 14:29 |
| jelkner | scooper: that's a great question | 14:31 |
| jelkner | shmohamud: we should talk about that | 14:31 |
| shmohamud | good question indeed. We should. What's the purpose of the preliminary test? | 14:32 |
| jelkner | shmohamud: the question is whether you want your charges to complete the PCEP certification? | 14:33 |
| jelkner | we should talk about that | 14:33 |
| jelkner | on the one hand | 14:33 |
| jelkner | they already have an "accountability mechanism" | 14:33 |
| jelkner | the grade they get in the UoPeople course | 14:33 |
| jelkner | on the other hand | 14:33 |
| scooper | He is not active in here right now.... | 14:34 |
| scooper | With Freena and me in private chat...... | 14:34 |
| scooper | To test our understanding in Python | 14:34 |
| jelkner | earning PCEP might help them be more successful in that course | 14:34 |
| jelkner | we need to talk about that, scooper | 14:34 |
| jelkner | since i'm typing here | 14:34 |
| jelkner | shmohamud can look at the irc log ;-) | 14:34 |
| jelkner | and think about it | 14:34 |
| scooper | ok dokie | 14:35 |
| jelkner | scooper: ask fkoikoi to put it on the agenda for saturday | 14:35 |
| jelkner | dcammue, svaye are you ready now? | 14:35 |
| dcammue | Yes | 14:35 |
| dcammue | +1 | 14:35 |
| fkoikoi | sure jeff | 14:35 |
| fkoikoi | I will do it before Friday | 14:36 |
| jelkner | no time like the present, fkoikoi | 14:36 |
| jelkner | that way you don't forget! | 14:36 |
| jelkner | ok, i can track your progress, svaye and dcammue | 14:37 |
| scooper | I will take charge of the agenda Jeff but we need to discuss what are those things we need on our Agenda before I can include here | 14:37 |
| jelkner | i can see the scores from your pretest | 14:37 |
| dcammue | Jeff tboimah is using svaye computer because his computer is not connecting to the internet | 14:37 |
| jelkner | scooper i want you to help fkoikoi learn to do that too | 14:37 |
| dcammue | svaye will use my computer to talk to you | 14:38 |
| jelkner | our goal is to create a democratic worker coop | 14:38 |
| dcammue | Is that okay | 14:38 |
| scooper | OK but she is already good at doing it Jeff | 14:38 |
| jelkner | we will eventually need *everyone* to learn how to plan meetings | 14:38 |
| jelkner | i agree | 14:38 |
| jelkner | she seems like a natural | 14:38 |
| jelkner | scooper, in addition to having one person chairing the meeting each week | 14:39 |
| jelkner | who is responsible for the overall agenda | 14:39 |
| jelkner | other members can post items they think we need to discuss | 14:40 |
| jelkner | and it seems to work best if you do that right when you think about it | 14:40 |
| scooper | on behalf of thomas Jeff | 14:40 |
| jelkner | so you don't forget | 14:40 |
| jelkner | i already did | 14:40 |
| jelkner | !agenda | 14:40 |
| LittleWebster | This is the agenda for the next meeting: | 14:40 |
| LittleWebster | Discuss Summer schedule (10 min). (added by jelkner) | 14:40 |
| jelkner | since i realized we needed to clarify when we are meeting | 14:41 |
| jelkner | actually, we talked about that already | 14:41 |
| jelkner | so i could remove it | 14:41 |
| scooper | He want me ask you if sysadmin team will write the preliminary test too | 14:41 |
| jelkner | that is an ubuntourist question | 14:41 |
| jelkner | many of the cirricula don't have a pretest | 14:42 |
| jelkner | PCEP does not | 14:42 |
| jelkner | we did talk about a possible certification for the sysadmin team: Linux+ | 14:42 |
| jelkner | not sure if ubuntourist wants to do that | 14:42 |
| jelkner | he is RedHat certified himself | 14:42 |
| jelkner | but that is not an option | 14:42 |
| jelkner | too expensive | 14:43 |
| jelkner | so not now, in any case | 14:43 |
| jelkner | https://www.comptia.org/blog/best-certifications-for-linux | 14:44 |
| jelkner | https://hackr.io/blog/best-linux-certifications | 14:44 |
| jelkner | oops Linux+ is too expensive too | 14:45 |
| jelkner | we should look at https://www.lpi.org/our-certifications/lpic-1-overview | 14:45 |
| jelkner | anyway, i need to work with my group now, scooper | 14:45 |
| jelkner | let's talk more on saturday | 14:46 |
| scooper | oK | 14:46 |
| jelkner | svaye, dcammue, ready? | 14:46 |
| dcammue | +1 | 14:46 |
| jelkner | so, let me share how i do this with my students in Virginia | 14:46 |
| jelkner | at the beginning of the year, i teach them basic Unix CLI, vim, and git | 14:47 |
| jelkner | those are the three skills they need *before* we can start HTML, CSS, and JavaScript | 14:47 |
| jelkner | i'm working on my calendar for the Fall now, so you can see my first draft of a calendar here: | 14:48 |
| jelkner | https://ict.gctaa.net/sections/webdev/calendar/ | 14:48 |
| jelkner | i plan to spend the first 4 weeks on "Preliminaries" | 14:49 |
| jelkner | since most of the students will have never seen a CLI before | 14:49 |
| jelkner | but you two already have experience with the cli, vim, and git | 14:49 |
| jelkner | do you feel you need more practice before we move into the coursework? | 14:50 |
| jelkner | svaye and dcammue, please answer | 14:51 |
| dcammue | Let move to the work | 14:51 |
| jelkner | ok, that sounds good | 14:51 |
| dcammue | for svaye and I | 14:51 |
| jelkner | but dcammue, as we do the labs, be sure to practice your cli, vim, and git skills | 14:51 |
| dcammue | ok | 14:52 |
| jelkner | so your next task is to work on Lesson 1: HTML Essentials | 14:53 |
| jelkner | You should read *everything*, over and over! | 14:53 |
| dcammue | how doo we access that | 14:53 |
| jelkner | you should do *all* the practice exercises | 14:53 |
| dcammue | from the book? | 14:54 |
| jelkner | it's not a book | 14:54 |
| jelkner | but it's like a book | 14:54 |
| jelkner | it's online | 14:54 |
| dcammue | okay | 14:54 |
| jelkner | in the same place you took the pretest | 14:54 |
| jelkner | svaye and dcammue, see if you can find it | 14:54 |
| dcammue | okay we will do so | 14:54 |
| jelkner | https://www.ucertify.com/login.php | 14:55 |
| jelkner | that is the login page | 14:55 |
| jelkner | when you login | 14:55 |
| jelkner | you should see it | 14:55 |
| jelkner | Lessons | 14:55 |
| jelkner | there are 10 lessons | 14:55 |
| jelkner | let me know if you can see them | 14:55 |
| jelkner | if not, i may need to configure it | 14:55 |
| dcammue | svaye already saw it | 14:56 |
| dcammue | she started reading it | 14:56 |
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| dcammue | should we start now Jeff? | 14:57 |
| jelkner | +1 | 14:57 |
| dcammue | right away | 14:57 |
| jelkner | how about this, can we meet again tomorrow | 14:58 |
| jelkner | ? | 14:58 |
| jelkner | at 11 am your time? | 14:58 |
| jelkner | before we go, i want to talk a bit about how this will work | 14:59 |
| jelkner | the curriculum has all you need to get ready for the certification exam | 14:59 |
| jelkner | my job is *not* to repeat what is in the curriculum | 14:59 |
| jelkner | my job is to help clarify, reinforce, and guide you | 14:59 |
| jelkner | so *you* need to take responsibility for your learning | 15:00 |
| jelkner | and come prepared to our meetings with thoughtful questions and comments | 15:00 |
| jelkner | understood? | 15:00 |
| jelkner | please give me a +1 if you understand and agree | 15:00 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi: can you tap svaye and dcammue on the shoulders and ask them to respond please? | 15:01 |
| jelkner | once they give me a +1 | 15:01 |
| jelkner | i'll leave them alone and let them concentrate! ;-) | 15:01 |
| shmohamud | ACTION logs off the day | 15:01 |
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| dcammue | +1 | 15:02 |
| jelkner | and svaye? | 15:02 |
| dcammue | Jeff tboimah is using my laptop | 15:02 |
| jelkner | ahh, ok | 15:02 |
| jelkner | not sure why | 15:03 |
| jelkner | you have a whole lab filled with laptops he can use | 15:03 |
| dcammue | so I am using daniel computer | 15:03 |
| jelkner | ok, i'll see you here tomorrow at 11 am your time | 15:03 |
| jelkner | bye for now... | 15:03 |
| jelkner | ACTION logs off for the day | 15:04 |
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