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| jelkner | Good morning tboimah | 10:49 |
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| jelkner | Is fkoikoi here too? | 10:50 |
| tboimah | Good morning jelkner | 10:50 |
| tboimah | she was | 10:50 |
| tboimah | But her connection drop | 10:51 |
| jelkner | we need to fix that problem | 10:51 |
| jelkner | only with regular, and reasonably reliable connectivity can jetro web succeed | 10:51 |
| tboimah | sure | 10:51 |
| tboimah | But i think she is using her that is why | 10:52 |
| tboimah | *phone | 10:52 |
| jelkner | got you | 10:52 |
| jelkner | so i ask that you all help each other out | 10:52 |
| jelkner | learning what works and what doesn't work is part of your educational requirements | 10:52 |
| jelkner | you know, my friend, i will have to keep asking you to "up your game" if we are going to be successful | 10:53 |
| tboimah | yeah | 10:53 |
| jelkner | so is it just you today? | 10:54 |
| tboimah | No the other will be with us soon | 10:54 |
| jelkner | ok | 10:54 |
| jelkner | let's wait | 10:54 |
| tboimah | okay | 10:54 |
| Gabriel | Good morning | 10:56 |
| Gabriel | jeff | 10:56 |
| Gabriel | Good morning freena | 10:57 |
| Gabriel | good morning everyone | 10:57 |
| fkoikoi | Good morning tboimah, jelkner and Gabriel | 10:58 |
| jelkner | Good morning fkoikoi and Gabriel | 10:58 |
| tboimah | Good morning fkoikoi and Gabriel | 10:58 |
| jelkner | shall we start? or are we still waiting on others? | 10:59 |
| fkoikoi | we can start | 11:00 |
| Gabriel | I think it's time but can I ask a question"? | 11:00 |
| Gabriel | Jeff | 11:00 |
| jelkner | please | 11:00 |
| jelkner | i'm waiting Gabriel | 11:02 |
| Gabriel | ok my question is about the PCEP, i have been talking about this since last month but freena said i should reach you? | 11:02 |
| fkoikoi | I told you to reach to scooper Gabriel | 11:03 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi, that's a good recommendation, but why? | 11:04 |
| fkoikoi | because that's how it's been done | 11:05 |
| jelkner | ok, that's one good reason | 11:05 |
| Gabriel | fkoikoi to be honest I told you several times but you said i should tell Jeff but in so doing nevermind | 11:05 |
| jelkner | we don't want to change things for no good reason | 11:05 |
| jelkner | but it also helps to *evaluate* everything we do | 11:05 |
| jelkner | is it the best way? | 11:05 |
| jelkner | why? | 11:05 |
| jelkner | remember, successful technologists need to be flexible, creative thinkers | 11:06 |
| Gabriel | sure I was just makihng a suggestion cause you said it's important as the goal to jetrowebdev | 11:06 |
| jelkner | Gabriel, i'm glad you are bringing it up | 11:06 |
| jelkner | please feel free to bring up whatever you want to bring up | 11:07 |
| Gabriel | ok | 11:07 |
| jelkner | i personally don't want anyone to be the "single point of failure" | 11:07 |
| jelkner | that's an engineering concept | 11:08 |
| jelkner | and we should think about it too | 11:08 |
| fkoikoi | when a person is prepare, they take the practice test and then proceed to the registration. Send the link to scooper and scooper send it to jeff | 11:08 |
| jelkner | if a single failure in one part of a system can cause the entire system to fail | 11:08 |
| jelkner | we do not have a resilient system | 11:08 |
| jelkner | the Internet, for example, was designed in part to be a resilient system | 11:09 |
| fkoikoi | Gabriel, I have told you to reach to scooper in the present of Mulbah, including tboimah | 11:09 |
| jelkner | if one router fails | 11:09 |
| jelkner | the other routers in the system automatically re-route traffic | 11:09 |
| jelkner | so the system reestablishes stability | 11:10 |
| jelkner | we need to be like the Internet | 11:10 |
| jelkner | LOL | 11:10 |
| Gabriel | ight | 11:10 |
| jelkner | if one of us doesn't show up, or can't do what they were supposed to do | 11:10 |
| jelkner | we need resilient systems in place that keep us going | 11:10 |
| jelkner | we can't grind to a halt every time a single one of us fails | 11:10 |
| jelkner | so thanks, Gabriel, i like having discussions like this | 11:11 |
| jelkner | i think we need to have more and more of them | 11:11 |
| jelkner | that's what "education" really is all about | 11:11 |
| jelkner | but back to your concrete question | 11:11 |
| jelkner | scooper has been the "go to guy" on this because he knows how to purchase a voucher and direct the payment to me | 11:12 |
| jelkner | but we need to change that workflow now anyway | 11:12 |
| jelkner | i no longer can (nor do i want to) pay for all our expenses personall | 11:13 |
| jelkner | personally | 11:13 |
| jelkner | i want the funding to go from SJC to Jetro Web | 11:13 |
| jelkner | SJC is now a 501c3 organization | 11:13 |
| jelkner | which means it can receive tax deductable contributions from people in the U.S. | 11:14 |
| jelkner | do you all know who is on the board of SJC? | 11:14 |
| tboimah | please tell us | 11:15 |
| fkoikoi | -1 | 11:15 |
| jelkner | i'll do better than that, tboimah | 11:15 |
| Gabriel | ok | 11:15 |
| jelkner | i don't know if you saw the log from yesterday, but scooper and i got into a discussion of charity | 11:15 |
| tboimah | yeah I was that | 11:16 |
| jelkner | i basically told him that i am personally not interested in charity | 11:16 |
| tboimah | when you was saying it is but to teach a man to fishing them to give hem a fish | 11:16 |
| jelkner | i am interested in solidarity | 11:16 |
| tboimah | *better | 11:17 |
| jelkner | yes, tboimah | 11:17 |
| jelkner | i want to build the solidarity economy | 11:17 |
| jelkner | ok, give me one minute | 11:17 |
| jelkner | All the registered businesses in Virginia appear on a website: | 11:18 |
| jelkner | https://www.scc.virginia.gov/ | 11:18 |
| jelkner | SCC stands for "State Corporation Commission" | 11:18 |
| jelkner | If you want to look up a business, you can go to this site: | 11:19 |
| jelkner | https://cis.scc.virginia.gov/ | 11:19 |
| jelkner | so here is your challenge: tell me who is on the board of "Social Justice Computing" | 11:19 |
| jelkner | can you reach the site from there? | 11:21 |
| jelkner | some sites may be blocked from outside the U.S. | 11:22 |
| tboimah | _1 | 11:22 |
| jelkner | so let me know | 11:22 |
| jelkner | you can't, tboimah? | 11:22 |
| tboimah | yeah, still figuring out how to reach the sjc site | 11:23 |
| jelkner | oh, good | 11:23 |
| jelkner | all you need to do is enter "Social Justice Computing" in the search | 11:23 |
| jelkner | Under "Business Entity Search" | 11:24 |
| jelkner | you enter "Social Justice Computing" | 11:24 |
| jelkner | well? | 11:26 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi, let's talk about our next meeting | 11:27 |
| jelkner | i have an appointment with my doctor tomorrow morning to get the medicines i need for my trip to Liberia | 11:27 |
| jelkner | mainly anti-malaria pills i think | 11:28 |
| jelkner | so i can't meet tomorrow morning | 11:28 |
| jelkner | what about thursday? | 11:28 |
| jelkner | so you want to meet then? | 11:28 |
| jelkner | and since i will have to go in a few minutes | 11:29 |
| jelkner | if no one says, "yes, let's meet", i won't show | 11:29 |
| jelkner | i'm very busy trying to build the solidarity economy, and i have a lot to do | 11:29 |
| jelkner | so if you want my time, you need to tell me | 11:29 |
| jelkner | and then show up! | 11:30 |
| jelkner | i'll leave you with these thoughts... | 11:30 |
| jelkner | please ask the rest of the jetro web team to read the log later so they are aware of them too | 11:30 |
| jelkner | i asked you to investigate SJC because whether you understand it yet or not, it is very important to you | 11:31 |
| jelkner | SJC will be the organization funding your efforts | 11:31 |
| jelkner | if you want to understand what is possible in terms of that funding | 11:31 |
| jelkner | you really need to understand the organization | 11:31 |
| jelkner | who is SJC? | 11:32 |
| jelkner | what resources does it have? | 11:32 |
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| jelkner | how can we most effectively relate to it to get it to help us meet our goals? | 11:32 |
| jelkner | you should be asking yourselves these questions | 11:32 |
| jelkner | ok, i'm going to talk with mr. zawolo now | 11:32 |
| jelkner | since no told me to meet thursday, i won't be here unless i receive an email telling me to come | 11:33 |
| jelkner | have a great evening everyone | 11:33 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off for the day... | 11:33 |
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