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| scooper | Good morning jelkner , svaye and tboimah | 11:56 |
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| tboimah | Good morning folks | 11:56 |
| jelkner | Good morning scooper svaye and tboimah | 11:56 |
| svaye | Good morning jelkner scooper tboimah | 11:56 |
| klarios | good morning everyone | 12:00 |
| svaye | Good morning klarios | 12:00 |
| scooper | Good morning once again everyone | 12:02 |
| scooper | can we start with the meeting if we had something important to say | 12:02 |
| scooper | Firstly let begin with the update from Mr. Saydee from the UBA Bank.... as it relates to the B2B | 12:03 |
| scooper | Business to Business transfer | 12:03 |
| scooper | Mr. Saydee said there is no way to work around that | 12:04 |
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| scooper | becasue it's a fix amount being set on all transfer being make | 12:04 |
| scooper | which start from 1.$ to 5000 $ | 12:04 |
| scooper | the amount is 50 USD | 12:05 |
| jelkner | That is terrible! | 12:05 |
| scooper | from 1000 up to 2000 the amount is 100 | 12:05 |
| jelkner | that is a 10% charge | 12:05 |
| scooper | 10000 up to 20000 | 12:05 |
| jelkner | just to transfer funds | 12:05 |
| jelkner | horrible! | 12:06 |
| scooper | yes | 12:06 |
| jelkner | this is a good task for the business team | 12:06 |
| jelkner | as they learn about international finance | 12:06 |
| jelkner | i know the rich folks aren't paying fees like that | 12:06 |
| scooper | he also mentioned something | 12:06 |
| jelkner | they rob from us regular folks | 12:06 |
| jelkner | and get richer and richer | 12:07 |
| scooper | that Thomas and Daniel need to tell us | 12:07 |
| jelkner | i *hate* it!!! | 12:07 |
| scooper | as it relates to monthly charges from the corporate account | 12:07 |
| jelkner | it is the kind of thing that makes my blood boil | 12:07 |
| jelkner | the billionaires steal from us | 12:07 |
| jelkner | and we suffer | 12:07 |
| jelkner | ok, now that i've calmed down a wee bit ;-) | 12:08 |
| jelkner | we need to keep an eye out for better ways to do this | 12:08 |
| jelkner | let's watch what is happening with the BRICS banks | 12:08 |
| jelkner | investigate bit coin | 12:08 |
| jelkner | 10% is *a lot* | 12:08 |
| jelkner | there must be a better way | 12:08 |
| jelkner | but for now, you all will have to pay it | 12:08 |
| jelkner | scooper, i can bring the funds with me | 12:09 |
| jelkner | and we won't have to pay the 10% percent | 12:09 |
| scooper | sound good | 12:09 |
| scooper | but how are we going to solve this in the future?? | 12:09 |
| jelkner | exactly | 12:09 |
| jelkner | we need a solution that works regularly | 12:09 |
| scooper | because it's the only way to do this according to Mr. Saydee | 12:10 |
| scooper | anyway when you arrive in liberia you will have enough time to talk with Mr. Saydee | 12:10 |
| tboimah | As it relate to the monthly charges that scooper is talking about, their is going be a charge for each month the money make in the bank account | 12:11 |
| jelkner | scooper, have you been in touch with mr. zawolo recently? | 12:11 |
| scooper | -1 | 12:11 |
| jelkner | i texted him, called him, and emailed him yesterday | 12:11 |
| jelkner | but got nothing | 12:11 |
| jelkner | he isn't answering his phone today either | 12:11 |
| scooper | I will try again when I get home via whatapp | 12:12 |
| jelkner | i'll keep trying him every few days until i reach im | 12:12 |
| jelkner | great | 12:12 |
| jelkner | since i don't use whatsapp, that will be a help | 12:12 |
| scooper | because I need his intervention right now | 12:12 |
| jelkner | me too | 12:12 |
| scooper | the guy is not in line with our plan | 12:12 |
| jelkner | did you see them emails with kevin yesterday | 12:12 |
| jelkner | what guy? | 12:12 |
| scooper | as it relates to the registration receipt of the business | 12:13 |
| scooper | yes | 12:13 |
| scooper | I when through the email this morning jelkner | 12:13 |
| jelkner | hold on, one thing at a time | 12:13 |
| jelkner | i'm confused | 12:13 |
| jelkner | what guy is not in line with what plan? | 12:13 |
| scooper | The guy Mr. Zawolo recommend | 12:14 |
| jelkner | for what? | 12:14 |
| scooper | to do the business registration for us | 12:14 |
| jelkner | i thought the business was already registered | 12:14 |
| jelkner | that's how you have a bank account | 12:14 |
| jelkner | now i'm more confused | 12:14 |
| scooper | According to Mr. Zawolo in your present | 12:15 |
| scooper | the person him is recommending could help us register the business | 12:15 |
| scooper | by giving us a receipt | 12:15 |
| jelkner | so the business is not registered? | 12:15 |
| scooper | that will allow us to open the bank account | 12:15 |
| jelkner | how can you have an account? | 12:15 |
| scooper | up till now the guy haven't yet given us any receipt | 12:16 |
| scooper | I told Mr. Saydee a friend of mine help us open the bank account | 12:16 |
| scooper | but we will not be able to withdraw money | 12:16 |
| scooper | until the business registration receipt is provided | 12:17 |
| scooper | right guys?? | 12:17 |
| svaye | yes | 12:17 |
| tboimah | sure | 12:17 |
| scooper | That how Mr. Saydee help us open the bank account base on the Article of Incoporation we provided | 12:17 |
| scooper | Now the issue is though we have a bank account | 12:18 |
| jelkner | but no business? | 12:18 |
| scooper | but we will only be able to deposit but not withdraw until the receipt is provided | 12:18 |
| scooper | what do you mean but no business??? | 12:19 |
| jelkner | if the business is not registered | 12:21 |
| jelkner | it doesn't exist | 12:21 |
| jelkner | i made a joke about "birthing and new baby corporation" | 12:21 |
| jelkner | when SJC was registered | 12:21 |
| jelkner | i don't know Liberian law | 12:22 |
| jelkner | but in the U.S., corporations are "legal people" | 12:22 |
| jelkner | they are "born" when they are registered | 12:22 |
| scooper | Jetro Web Development is register jelkner | 12:22 |
| jelkner | and like people, they have rights and obligations legally | 12:22 |
| jelkner | it is mind blowing when you think about it. | 12:22 |
| jelkner | how we humans dream up this stuff | 12:22 |
| jelkner | but we do | 12:23 |
| scooper | same here too jelkner | 12:23 |
| jelkner | so, if Jetro is not registered, it hasn't been "born" yet | 12:23 |
| jelkner | so it does not yet exist, from a legal point of view | 12:23 |
| scooper | Jetro Web is register jelkner | 12:23 |
| jelkner | so now i'm confused again | 12:23 |
| jelkner | if it is registered | 12:23 |
| scooper | is just about getting the receipt from the person whom is in charge of this | 12:24 |
| jelkner | ah | 12:24 |
| jelkner | i get it | 12:24 |
| jelkner | Virginia has a great system now | 12:24 |
| jelkner | everything is on line | 12:24 |
| jelkner | and easy to use | 12:24 |
| jelkner | i showed you before | 12:24 |
| jelkner | you can look up SJC on the website | 12:24 |
| jelkner | and see that is it registered | 12:24 |
| jelkner | NOVA Web too | 12:24 |
| jelkner | and SECOSOL | 12:25 |
| jelkner | alright, we need to talk to Mr. Zawolo | 12:25 |
| jelkner | so there isn't much more we can do today | 12:25 |
| jelkner | one last thing though | 12:25 |
| scooper | The only thing are see here | 12:25 |
| jelkner | can you please set up a meeting with you, the Pastor, svaye, and fkoikoi to talk about the school? | 12:26 |
| scooper | sure | 12:26 |
| jelkner | we will only have two short weeks while i'm there | 12:26 |
| scooper | when should I do this??? | 12:26 |
| jelkner | ASAP | 12:26 |
| jelkner | that's why i wanted Jetro to choose it's business people | 12:26 |
| jelkner | are you clear on the concerns i have about this process? | 12:27 |
| scooper | yes | 12:27 |
| scooper | can we address the Logistic before you leave. I think some member have a concern or input?? | 12:27 |
| jelkner | i only want to move forward with the school project if i firmly believe Jetro's interests will be protected | 12:27 |
| jelkner | scooper, i will definitely want to meet with them while i'm there | 12:28 |
| scooper | That why we are calling a meeting with the pastor and community before you arrive | 12:28 |
| jelkner | but if you have not met with them many times before i arrive | 12:28 |
| jelkner | then we will probably fail | 12:28 |
| jelkner | these things take a lot of planning | 12:28 |
| scooper | jelkner, | 12:28 |
| scooper | i have met | 12:28 |
| jelkner | you don't throw them together in 2 weeks | 12:29 |
| scooper | with them many time including | 12:29 |
| jelkner | yes, but svaye and fkoikoi have not | 12:29 |
| scooper | Mr. Zawolo via phone to talk with the pastor as well | 12:29 |
| jelkner | i want to know what they think | 12:29 |
| jelkner | since they are now going to represent Jetro as business managers | 12:29 |
| svaye | Would Monday be preferable for the meeting scooper | 12:29 |
| scooper | svaye, freena | 12:29 |
| svaye | yes scooper | 12:30 |
| scooper | let meet with the pastor on sunday | 12:30 |
| scooper | by 4:00pm liberia time | 12:30 |
| jelkner | +1 | 12:30 |
| jelkner | that would be great | 12:30 |
| scooper | so you can hear from him yourself | 12:30 |
| scooper | is that ok | 12:30 |
| jelkner | svaye, can you do that? | 12:30 |
| scooper | Sunday is the best time jelkner | 12:31 |
| svaye | Where are we meeting him scooper | 12:31 |
| scooper | Where the land is situated | 12:31 |
| scooper | 24th street, at Emmmanuel template church | 12:31 |
| scooper | *temple | 12:32 |
| scooper | jelkner, | 12:33 |
| jelkner | it would be super is you and Freena could both go | 12:33 |
| jelkner | and see the land | 12:33 |
| scooper | are you still htere??? | 12:33 |
| jelkner | to start thinking about the school | 12:33 |
| jelkner | take some pictures | 12:33 |
| jelkner | please | 12:34 |
| jelkner | we need to tell our story about this on the website | 12:34 |
| scooper | didn't are share picture with you jelkner ??? | 12:34 |
| jelkner | so that we can raise funds | 12:34 |
| svaye | scooper, I just spoke with | 12:34 |
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| jelkner | scooper, did you see the git repo example i showed yesterday? | 12:34 |
| jelkner | that is how you should share pictures | 12:34 |
| scooper | yes | 12:34 |
| jelkner | put them in the git repo | 12:34 |
| jelkner | and link them in markdown files | 12:35 |
| jelkner | so we are publicly documenting what we are doing | 12:35 |
| jelkner | and making the workflow easy, fast, and transparent | 12:35 |
| jelkner | svaye, can you reach out to fkoikoi and meet with scooper on 24th street Sunday? | 12:35 |
| svaye | scooper, would it be possible for us to meet with the pastor on Monday or Tuesday | 12:36 |
| scooper | Sunday is the best time for now | 12:36 |
| scooper | because we will have other community member begin part of this | 12:36 |
| jelkner | scooper, you're job is not done until the pictures are in a public repo | 12:37 |
| jelkner | actually, we will want them on a nice website | 12:37 |
| jelkner | the jetro web website | 12:37 |
| jelkner | but we can start with a repo | 12:37 |
| scooper | ok | 12:37 |
| jelkner | if you want me to raise funds for you | 12:37 |
| jelkner | you need to give me what i need | 12:37 |
| jelkner | which is public evidence of what we are doing | 12:38 |
| jelkner | that will excite people to want to support us | 12:38 |
| svaye | I just spoke with Freena and she said it would be preferable if we can meet with them on Monday or Tuesday and I also have an engagement on Sunday scooper | 12:38 |
| svaye | I would like to know if it's possible to meet with them during the week scooper | 12:40 |
| scooper | I will ask the pastor if he decline for Tuesday and Monday that mean you have to come on Sunday by all mean | 12:40 |
| jelkner | ok everyone, i am only going to say here that you have to be willing to: | 12:41 |
| jelkner | 1. work hard | 12:41 |
| jelkner | 2. make sacrifices | 12:41 |
| jelkner | you're goal is to establish good relationships with the folks at the church | 12:42 |
| jelkner | it is ok to ask for them to adapt to your schedule | 12:42 |
| jelkner | but if you are too demanding | 12:42 |
| svaye | scooper, I am going out of town tomorrow and I am suppose to be back on Saturday but if anything comes up I will let you know | 12:42 |
| jelkner | they will feel you don't respect them | 12:42 |
| jelkner | anyway, let's meet again once you have met with the folks at the church | 12:43 |
| jelkner | so i will await an email from you | 12:43 |
| jelkner | no meeting tomorrow | 12:43 |
| jelkner | and no meeting until you have something to report | 12:43 |
| jelkner | make sense? | 12:43 |
| scooper | -1 | 12:43 |
| jelkner | ok, tell me why | 12:44 |
| scooper | can we address the logistic before you leave | 12:44 |
| jelkner | scooper, you mean what i call a budget | 12:44 |
| scooper | because it's import in making this workshop a success | 12:44 |
| scooper | yes | 12:44 |
| jelkner | and we have time | 12:44 |
| jelkner | did you see i put the budget in the repo? | 12:44 |
| scooper | yes I did | 12:45 |
| jelkner | my plan is to talk to isaac about that | 12:45 |
| jelkner | before i make suggestions to the group | 12:45 |
| jelkner | then i need to meet with the whole jetro team to disucss it | 12:45 |
| jelkner | only 3 of the 8 of you are here now | 12:45 |
| jelkner | less than half | 12:45 |
| jelkner | if we meet all the time | 12:45 |
| jelkner | with only small groups | 12:45 |
| scooper | please include our registration receipt too | 12:45 |
| scooper | when having a dicussion with him | 12:46 |
| jelkner | we are not getting things accomplished efficiently | 12:46 |
| jelkner | YOU include it, scooper | 12:46 |
| jelkner | tboimah, | 12:46 |
| jelkner | can i ask you something? | 12:46 |
| tboimah | sure | 12:46 |
| jelkner | can you please take charge of cloning the repo i made | 12:47 |
| jelkner | and teaching the others how to update it? | 12:47 |
| jelkner | that is the point of a repo like that | 12:47 |
| tboimah | where did you place it | 12:47 |
| tboimah | ? | 12:47 |
| jelkner | we can use this as an opportunity to build our skills | 12:47 |
| jelkner | didn't you see my email | 12:47 |
| jelkner | ? | 12:47 |
| jelkner | check your email | 12:47 |
| jelkner | i linked to it | 12:48 |
| tboimah | Oh I having yet check my mail | 12:48 |
| jelkner | ah | 12:48 |
| tboimah | ACTION going to check my mail | 12:48 |
| jelkner | checking your email is an important tech responsibility! ;-) | 12:48 |
| jelkner | when i send an email | 12:48 |
| jelkner | my expectation is that everyone will read it | 12:48 |
| jelkner | otherwise, communication doesn't happen | 12:48 |
| jelkner | svaye your role as business manager is to think about the big picture | 12:49 |
| tboimah | I saw it will do that | 12:49 |
| jelkner | you need to do what i'm doing now | 12:49 |
| jelkner | to think about: | 12:49 |
| jelkner | 1. what needs to be done | 12:50 |
| jelkner | 2. who can do it | 12:50 |
| jelkner | scooper is your most experienced member in doing that | 12:50 |
| jelkner | but for Jetro to really be a cooperative | 12:50 |
| jelkner | everyone should strive to do it | 12:50 |
| jelkner | we are all workers and we are all owners | 12:50 |
| jelkner | so we are all leaders and we are all followers | 12:51 |
| jelkner | that's solidarity | 12:51 |
| jelkner | ok, scooper i don't want to keep meeting when you all have not done your homework | 12:51 |
| jelkner | it is a waste of my time | 12:51 |
| jelkner | i ask you to please respect my time | 12:52 |
| jelkner | you know how important that is to me | 12:52 |
| jelkner | so i love to meet with you | 12:52 |
| jelkner | when you have done your homework | 12:52 |
| jelkner | it makes me *very happy*! | 12:52 |
| jelkner | but when you haven't done your homework, i get sad | 12:52 |
| jelkner | what can i say, i'm a teacher ;-) | 12:52 |
| jelkner | so do your homework: | 12:53 |
| jelkner | 1. meet with the church folks to introduce svaye and fkoikoi as representatives of jetro web | 12:53 |
| jelkner | 2. learn to use our git repo and markdown files to draft our planning docs | 12:54 |
| jelkner | when you have done those two things | 12:54 |
| jelkner | email me and ask me to a meeting | 12:54 |
| jelkner | my homework: | 12:54 |
| jelkner | 1. talk with isaac about the budget | 12:54 |
| jelkner | 2. work with kei to investigate money transfer | 12:55 |
| jelkner | she is working on that as we speak | 12:55 |
| jelkner | she has contacts with folks in africa (Cameroon) | 12:55 |
| klarios | I will also ask if anyone is interested in researching global payroll they can cooperate with me. That being said we need effective communication to solve this issue | 12:55 |
| jelkner | who work in international organizations | 12:55 |
| jelkner | so she may be able to figure this out | 12:56 |
| jelkner | sound good? | 12:56 |
| tboimah | Thanks a lot for your klarios | 12:57 |
| klarios | no worries. Let me know if anyone is avaliable | 12:58 |
| tboimah | *help | 12:58 |
| jelkner | scooper, svaye, tboimah | 12:59 |
| klarios | +1 | 12:59 |
| jelkner | are we good? | 12:59 |
| scooper | +1 | 12:59 |
| svaye | +1 | 12:59 |
| tboimah | +1 | 12:59 |
| jelkner | great | 12:59 |
| jelkner | i will be eagerly awaiting your email about our next meet | 12:59 |
| jelkner | thanks everyone! | 12:59 |
| scooper | Thanks jelkner | 13:00 |
| svaye | Thanks jelkner | 13:01 |
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| jelkner | ACTION signs off until jetro emails him they are ready | 13:05 |
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