| scooper | Good morning jelkner | 11:52 |
|---|---|---|
| jelkner | Good morning scooper | 11:52 |
| jelkner | while you have 8 minutes of morning left ;-) | 11:52 |
| scooper | +1 | 11:53 |
| jelkner | any luck reaching Mr. Zawolo? | 11:53 |
| jelkner | I have not been able to reach him. | 11:53 |
| scooper | it now 7 minutes of morning left | 11:53 |
| scooper | -1 | 11:53 |
| jelkner | I've called so many times. I even reached his wife while she was in church. | 11:53 |
| jelkner | She told me she would tell him I am trying to reach him. | 11:53 |
| jelkner | But so far I haven't heard back. | 11:54 |
| scooper | The only main for me to get to Mr. Zawolo quicker is via Whatapp | 11:54 |
| jelkner | That's why I'm asking you to try him. | 11:54 |
| scooper | Up till now he is haven't yet response to my whatapp calls | 11:54 |
| jelkner | We could use his help with the planning. | 11:55 |
| jelkner | If we can't reach him, we will have to do it without his help. | 11:55 |
| jelkner | But it would be better to have it. | 11:55 |
| scooper | If Mr. Zawolo is not responsing can we proceed without him??? | 11:55 |
| jelkner | We have no choice, my friend. We will have to. | 11:56 |
| jelkner | Is anyone else coming scooper? | 12:00 |
| jelkner | I just tried to call Isaac again. | 12:00 |
| jelkner | No answer. | 12:00 |
| jelkner | So I texted him. | 12:00 |
| scooper | Freena wouldn't be able to make it for meeting today | 12:00 |
| jelkner | So let's start. | 12:01 |
| scooper | Freena is attending a funeral today | 12:01 |
| scooper | ok | 12:01 |
| jelkner | In 2 weeks and 2 days I leave for Liberia. | 12:01 |
| scooper | Yesterday the two managers didn't turn up for the meeting with the Emmanuel Temple church pastor | 12:01 |
| jelkner | We have much to do between now and then. | 12:01 |
| scooper | ok | 12:02 |
| jelkner | That's bad news. | 12:02 |
| scooper | finish talking I will come in | 12:02 |
| jelkner | No, you go. | 12:02 |
| scooper | OK | 12:02 |
| jelkner | Remember, we can both type at the same time. | 12:02 |
| jelkner | It makes things faster. | 12:02 |
| scooper | sure | 12:02 |
| jelkner | Let's practice learning to do that. | 12:02 |
| jelkner | It's the irc way. | 12:02 |
| scooper | Shallon pleaded that the meeting be held on Tuesday or Monday | 12:02 |
| jelkner | Since you can read faster than you can type.. | 12:02 |
| jelkner | And then she didn't show? | 12:03 |
| scooper | so I engage the pastor that Jetro managers want to meet with him on Monday or Tuesday | 12:03 |
| jelkner | yes, i was there | 12:03 |
| scooper | to finalized our discussion about the land | 12:03 |
| jelkner | i know | 12:03 |
| scooper | and the pastor agreed to meet with us on monday because tuesday he will be heading out of town | 12:04 |
| jelkner | that was yesterday | 12:04 |
| scooper | After my visitor to the pastor I informed Jetro web managers via email | 12:04 |
| jelkner | i didn't see that email | 12:04 |
| scooper | about the meeting with the pastor by 4:30pm MOnday july 15 | 12:05 |
| jelkner | please cc me (or bcc me) on emails like that | 12:05 |
| scooper | I did jelkner | 12:05 |
| jelkner | oh, i think i did see that one | 12:05 |
| jelkner | never mind | 12:05 |
| scooper | jet.elkner@novawebdevelopment | 12:05 |
| jelkner | if you email jetroweb@lists.mayfirst.org i get it | 12:05 |
| jelkner | so i did get that | 12:06 |
| jelkner | never mind | 12:06 |
| jelkner | in fact, i got it twice ;-) | 12:06 |
| jelkner | so why didn't they show? | 12:06 |
| scooper | Unfortunately the two managers didn't turn up, after informing that monday will be convenience for them. since sunday seem to be a busy day for them | 12:06 |
| jelkner | this is so important scooper | 12:06 |
| jelkner | i'm afraid folks aren't serious about wanting the school | 12:06 |
| jelkner | so maybe we will have to give up on that idea | 12:07 |
| scooper | So I took the lead again by going there alone | 12:07 |
| jelkner | it is great that you are taking the lead | 12:07 |
| jelkner | but you can't do this alone | 12:07 |
| jelkner | so if the others don't do their parts | 12:07 |
| jelkner | we will not succeed | 12:07 |
| scooper | Now | 12:08 |
| scooper | the pastor said | 12:08 |
| scooper | he can see how serious I m about this | 12:08 |
| scooper | he will informed the Head Bishop before your arrival | 12:09 |
| jelkner | what is the name of the church? | 12:09 |
| jelkner | i want to do my homework | 12:09 |
| jelkner | i need to learn more about the church | 12:09 |
| scooper | them we all can sit and have proper meeting on how we can go about accomplishing our respective task | 12:09 |
| jelkner | yes | 12:09 |
| jelkner | but please tell me the name of the church | 12:10 |
| scooper | Emmanuel Temple Church | 12:10 |
| jelkner | do they have a website? | 12:10 |
| jelkner | ACTION does a quick web search for Emanuel Temple Church | 12:10 |
| scooper | ACTION calling the pastor to ask him for the head branch website | 12:11 |
| jelkner | Is it this one? https://www.etccolumbiamd.com/ | 12:11 |
| jelkner | Oops | 12:12 |
| jelkner | Never mind | 12:12 |
| jelkner | That one is in Columbia Maryland | 12:12 |
| jelkner | not far from me | 12:12 |
| scooper | NO | 12:12 |
| scooper | The church have it head branch | 12:12 |
| jelkner | I bet there are hundreds (if not thousands) of Emanuel Temple Churches | 12:12 |
| scooper | so I'm sure it will be the head branch name | 12:13 |
| jelkner | I want to learn more about the one on 24th street | 12:13 |
| scooper | but the pastor is not answering this call right now | 12:13 |
| scooper | I will reach him later to ask if the church have a website and let you know | 12:13 |
| jelkner | Can you find out more about the church for me please? | 12:13 |
| jelkner | What is the donination? | 12:13 |
| jelkner | You said their is Bishop | 12:14 |
| scooper | I will let you know jelkner | 12:14 |
| jelkner | So that means it is part of a larger organization | 12:14 |
| jelkner | Which organization? | 12:14 |
| scooper | the church is a sub branch that mean it have a headquarter | 12:14 |
| scooper | yes | 12:14 |
| scooper | hmmm | 12:15 |
| scooper | I will let you know later | 12:15 |
| dcammue | Good afternoon jelkner and scooper | 12:15 |
| jelkner | Good afternoon dcammue! | 12:16 |
| jelkner | So scooper, can we meet tomorrow? | 12:16 |
| jelkner | At the regular time? | 12:17 |
| scooper | +1 | 12:17 |
| jelkner | Please try to get others, like our friend dcammue here, so show | 12:17 |
| jelkner | We need to plan together | 12:17 |
| jelkner | you all are asking me to make a trip of thousands of miles | 12:17 |
| dcammue | okay jelkner | 12:18 |
| jelkner | seems you can make the effort to show up to our planning meetings | 12:18 |
| jelkner | as usual, i'm trying to determine how strongly you all really want to do this | 12:18 |
| jelkner | scooper, we need to talk about your budget, among other things | 12:19 |
| jelkner | i'm still waiting for tboimah to update it | 12:19 |
| jelkner | he was supposed to do that | 12:19 |
| scooper | jelkner, | 12:19 |
| scooper | https://www.aismonrovia.org/ | 12:19 |
| scooper | I m sure this is the head branch website | 12:19 |
| scooper | but I will confirm it from the pastor | 12:19 |
| scooper | I will clone the repository and make inject if necessary | 12:20 |
| jelkner | That is a school, scooper | 12:22 |
| jelkner | Not a church | 12:22 |
| jelkner | I'm confused | 12:22 |
| scooper | you right that is not their website | 12:22 |
| scooper | I will ask the pastor | 12:22 |
| jelkner | but it is interesting to know about | 12:22 |
| jelkner | that school i mean | 12:22 |
| scooper | because Emmanuel Temple church fall under AICA | 12:23 |
| scooper | AICA is the mother for Emmanuel Temple church | 12:23 |
| jelkner | Thanks | 12:24 |
| scooper | jelkner, | 12:24 |
| jelkner | https://www.facebook.com/p/AICA-Liberia-Monrovia-Region-100081555813961/ | 12:24 |
| jelkner | It's a facebook page | 12:25 |
| jelkner | It gives the address as: 18th Street, Sinkor Monrovia, Liberia, Monrovia, Liberia | 12:25 |
| scooper | yes | 12:25 |
| scooper | that is the church right there | 12:26 |
| scooper | that another branch they have on that side on sinkor | 12:26 |
| jelkner | So it seems to be part of a network of "Independent Churches" | 12:27 |
| scooper | yes | 12:27 |
| scooper | link I say Emmanuel Temple church is under | 12:27 |
| scooper | AICA | 12:27 |
| jelkner | I want you to try to understand what my questions are about this. | 12:28 |
| jelkner | So we can address them together. | 12:28 |
| jelkner | 1. Who holds power within the AICA organization? | 12:28 |
| jelkner | 2. What are their goals for wanting to be part of a school project? | 12:28 |
| jelkner | in other words, what to they want to get out of it? | 12:29 |
| jelkner | 3. How is power exercised within their organization? | 12:29 |
| jelkner | Who makes decisions? What is the process? What are the different groups within it? | 12:30 |
| scooper | The Church full name is Emmanuel Temple Church (AICA) 24th Street | 12:30 |
| jelkner | Thanks. | 12:30 |
| jelkner | When I come to visit, I will be trying to answer these questions for myself. | 12:30 |
| jelkner | Because I know what my goals are for the school project. | 12:31 |
| jelkner | And for Jetro Web's role in it. | 12:31 |
| jelkner | I will be trying to determine if we have an opportunity here for win-win cooperation | 12:31 |
| scooper | From the discussion I have with the pastor the head Bishop and Deacon are responsible stirring the affair of the church | 12:31 |
| jelkner | that protects Jetro's interest in the project | 12:31 |
| jelkner | or if we don't | 12:31 |
| jelkner | if we don't | 12:31 |
| jelkner | it will be time to abandon the idea and move on | 12:32 |
| jelkner | if we do | 12:32 |
| jelkner | we need to plan quickly to move forward, or we will loose the opportunity with the Kamal Foundation | 12:32 |
| jelkner | and we won't have a project anyway | 12:32 |
| scooper | jelkner, | 12:32 |
| jelkner | scooper, | 12:32 |
| scooper | Can I schedule a call so you can talk with the pastor yourself | 12:33 |
| jelkner | No, let's wait until I get there. | 12:33 |
| jelkner | Face to face will be better. | 12:33 |
| scooper | because base on seriousness or engaged he promise to inform the head bishop | 12:33 |
| scooper | great | 12:33 |
| jelkner | We need to get to know each other and build trust | 12:33 |
| jelkner | I want us to be able to see each other as we talk | 12:34 |
| scooper | I told him you will be here hopefully Aug 3 | 12:34 |
| jelkner | Face to face. | 12:34 |
| scooper | so he promise to let the head bishop know about this | 12:34 |
| jelkner | Great | 12:34 |
| scooper | them we all can sit and discuss | 12:34 |
| jelkner | yes | 12:34 |
| jelkner | but i am concerned about the Jetro web side of things now | 12:34 |
| scooper | Jetro side will highly be protected | 12:35 |
| jelkner | Let's say the Pastor and Bishop decide you and I are serious | 12:35 |
| jelkner | If we can't count on our Business managers to show | 12:35 |
| jelkner | it makes us look bad | 12:35 |
| jelkner | like we are not serious | 12:35 |
| jelkner | and not reliable | 12:35 |
| jelkner | i want to understand why they didn't show | 12:35 |
| jelkner | and to revisit the discussion of who should be the business managers for Jetro Web | 12:36 |
| scooper | that while we are team jelkner if the managers done show up at least one member show up | 12:36 |
| jelkner | if the two that you all chose plan to keep missing meetings like this | 12:36 |
| scooper | my next request is to schedule a meeting so he can know the manager in person | 12:36 |
| jelkner | i would tell you that you have to chose other managers | 12:36 |
| jelkner | or you will fail | 12:36 |
| dcammue | we will change them jelkner | 12:36 |
| jelkner | that's not my decision, dcammue | 12:37 |
| jelkner | it is the cooperative's | 12:37 |
| jelkner | but you all need to be serious | 12:37 |
| dcammue | because that's not what they were chosen for | 12:37 |
| jelkner | i can't work with you if you ar not serious | 12:37 |
| scooper | dcammue, if freena and shallon fail to turn up this coming sunday | 12:37 |
| jelkner | i want to work hard | 12:37 |
| jelkner | and be successful | 12:37 |
| jelkner | which means i need to work with like minded people | 12:37 |
| scooper | please inform thomas and you to please be on the standby to meet with the pastor | 12:37 |
| jelkner | who also want to work hard and be successful | 12:37 |
| jelkner | otherwise, we fail | 12:37 |
| jelkner | scooper, dcammue, please reach out to your group | 12:38 |
| dcammue | okay scooper | 12:38 |
| jelkner | and let them know how important this is | 12:38 |
| jelkner | so you can all decide together | 12:38 |
| jelkner | we need *EVERYONE* working together | 12:39 |
| jelkner | to build our power | 12:39 |
| jelkner | one last thing before i go | 12:39 |
| jelkner | can we talk about a few items on the budget | 12:39 |
| jelkner | why $60 for a car? | 12:39 |
| jelkner | is that to pick me up at the airport? | 12:40 |
| scooper | +1 | 12:40 |
| jelkner | this is so frustrating scooper | 12:40 |
| scooper | for a day | 12:40 |
| jelkner | that is one of the items i wanted to talk to Mr. Zawolo about | 12:40 |
| jelkner | he can best help us with that i think | 12:40 |
| jelkner | but we can't reach him | 12:41 |
| jelkner | we have two weeks | 12:41 |
| jelkner | i'll keep trying | 12:41 |
| jelkner | you try too please | 12:41 |
| scooper | If he is not reachable to help that me I have to be on the air August 2 | 12:41 |
| jelkner | august 3rd i think | 12:42 |
| jelkner | hold on | 12:42 |
| scooper | since your flight will arrive in August 3 art 4:30am | 12:42 |
| jelkner | yes | 12:42 |
| jelkner | ok, a few more items | 12:42 |
| jelkner | i want to talk about | 12:42 |
| scooper | I will not drive at night jelkner | 12:42 |
| jelkner | we need Mr. Zawolo | 12:43 |
| jelkner | i want to make sure they let me bring those laptops through customs | 12:43 |
| jelkner | if they give me trouble, it will be a big problem for us | 12:43 |
| jelkner | ok, a few more things | 12:43 |
| jelkner | we will definitely need power and internet | 12:44 |
| jelkner | *before* i arrive | 12:44 |
| scooper | I'm trying to figure if Mr. Zawolo done intervene I will ask my uncle to help | 12:44 |
| scooper | he once work at the airport for over 20 years | 12:44 |
| jelkner | so you list a generator, fuel, and the internet access router and subscription | 12:44 |
| scooper | he not know people | 12:44 |
| jelkner | please talk to your uncle soon | 12:44 |
| jelkner | we are running out of time | 12:45 |
| jelkner | how can we get you the funding in time to have everything ready | 12:45 |
| jelkner | and, you need to get the governance working in the coop | 12:45 |
| scooper | If Mr. Zawolo done answer from now till thursday I will ask him | 12:45 |
| jelkner | since the generator will be the property of Jetro Web development | 12:45 |
| scooper | yes | 12:45 |
| scooper | the generator the internet is the property of jetro web | 12:46 |
| jelkner | so we need to figure out how to send the funds by a week | 12:46 |
| jelkner | or you won't have time to purchase the items before i arrive | 12:46 |
| jelkner | i guess plan B is for me to bring the money with me | 12:46 |
| scooper | through remit if the team agreed to use my remit account | 12:46 |
| jelkner | and spend the first night in a hotel | 12:46 |
| jelkner | until we can purchase the generator together the day after i arrive | 12:46 |
| jelkner | so we need to figure that all out | 12:47 |
| jelkner | we can't scooper | 12:47 |
| jelkner | that wont work | 12:47 |
| jelkner | not any more | 12:47 |
| jelkner | this isn't me giving money to you | 12:48 |
| jelkner | it is Social Justice Computing giving money to Jetro Web Development | 12:48 |
| jelkner | we need to account for it properly | 12:48 |
| scooper | got you | 12:48 |
| jelkner | to avoid legal trouble | 12:48 |
| jelkner | SJC had it's board meeting last Saturday | 12:48 |
| jelkner | where we approved these expenses | 12:49 |
| scooper | but we will still need fund to get you from the airport | 12:49 |
| jelkner | Ved, Vrishin, Dr. Hubbard, and I were at that meeting | 12:49 |
| scooper | How do we get the transport fees | 12:49 |
| jelkner | only Isaac Zawolo was missing | 12:49 |
| jelkner | we don't know why | 12:49 |
| jelkner | that's what we need to figure out scooper | 12:50 |
| jelkner | how to do B2B transfers on a regular basis | 12:50 |
| jelkner | Kei was researching it last week | 12:50 |
| scooper | Mr. Saydee said there is not order way round doing this | 12:50 |
| scooper | *no | 12:50 |
| jelkner | You mean wire transfer is the only way? | 12:51 |
| scooper | According to Mr. Saydee that is how government and bank get profit from international transfer | 12:51 |
| jelkner | Got you | 12:51 |
| jelkner | ok, it's a tax, and we have to pay it | 12:51 |
| jelkner | let me go now | 12:52 |
| scooper | ok jelkner | 12:52 |
| jelkner | i'll stop by the credit union and see if i can make a transfer | 12:52 |
| jelkner | i'll be sure to bring funds with me when i come | 12:52 |
| jelkner | so we can avoid transfer fees at least for those. | 12:52 |
| jelkner | ok, gotta go | 12:53 |
| jelkner | see you tomorrow | 12:53 |
| scooper | ok jelkner | 12:53 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off for the day | 12:53 |
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| scooper | ACTION signing dcammue | 12:53 |
| *** scooper has quit (Quit: Leaving) | 12:53 | |
| dcammue | OKAY | 12:53 |
| dcammue | see you all then | 12:54 |
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