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scooper | Good morning jelkner | 11:29 |
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tboimah | Good morning folks | 11:29 |
dcammue | Good morning jelkner scooper | 11:29 |
scooper | good moring tboimah, jelkner and dcammue | 11:29 |
jelkner | Good morning dcammue, scooper, and tboimah! | 11:48 |
scooper | jelkner, | 11:50 |
tboimah | jelkner, I did a research on "Decidim" yesterday.. | 11:50 |
tboimah | Introduction: | 11:51 |
tboimah | • Name: Decidim(Catalan for “We decide”) | 11:51 |
tboimah | • Origin: Developed in Barcelona | 11:51 |
tboimah | • Purpose: Digital platform for participatory democracy | 11:51 |
tboimah | Key features: | 11:51 |
tboimah | • Participatory Tools: Assemblies, Consultation, Initiatives, and Processes | 11:51 |
tboimah | • Functionality: Supports strategic planning, Participatory budgeting, Public consultations, and Collaborative decision-making | 11:51 |
tboimah | • Technology: Built on Ruby on Rails, Open-Source Software | 11:51 |
scooper | jelkner, and everyone kindly check your mail | 11:51 |
jelkner | ACTION goes to check his email | 11:52 |
tboimah | Governance: | 11:52 |
tboimah | • Usage: Widely adopted in Spain and internationally (e.g. Mexico, Italy, France) | 11:52 |
tboimah | • Adaptability: Suitable for various democratic contexts and needs | 11:52 |
tboimah | Transparency and Collaboration: | 11:52 |
tboimah | • Open-Source: Code is publicly available for inspection and modification | 11:52 |
tboimah | • Community-Driven: Emphasis on Transparency, Community contributors, and Democratic collaboration | 11:52 |
tboimah | Conclusion: Decidim provide a robust, adaptable platform for fostering participatory democracy, making it a valuable tool for any organization seeking to enhance democratic engagement and decision-making. | 11:52 |
tboimah | Here is a link to there website: https://decidim.org/ | 11:52 |
tboimah | Here is a link to there documentation: https://docs.decidim.org/en/v0.28/index.html | 11:52 |
tboimah | ACTION going to check my mail | 11:52 |
dcammue | ACTION going to check mail | 11:52 |
scooper | Lastly the meeting with the pastor was not successful this goes sunday because the pastor is not in town | 11:53 |
scooper | But promise to have a meeting with us on the 27 of July when he return from out off town. | 11:54 |
jelkner | great, i've read the emai, and i'm ready to start the meeting at 12 noon sharp | 11:54 |
jelkner | only folks who are here on time get paid for this meeting | 11:55 |
jelkner | i'm updating the spreadsheet every time we do this | 11:55 |
scooper | Great | 11:56 |
jelkner | oh, and scooper, it is not a donation | 11:56 |
jelkner | it is a payment | 11:56 |
jelkner | remember, our relationship is changing | 11:56 |
jelkner | Jetro will do billable work | 11:56 |
jelkner | and then get paid for it | 11:56 |
jelkner | it isn't "dontations" | 11:56 |
jelkner | it is "payments" | 11:56 |
scooper | what is it??? | 11:57 |
tboimah | payments for "WHAT"? | 11:57 |
jelkner | well, since we have to account for all our funds | 11:57 |
jelkner | we better know the answer to that, tboimah | 11:57 |
jelkner | or we will be in legal trouble with our tax people | 11:58 |
jelkner | (the IRS in the US, i don't know the name of your authority) | 11:58 |
tboimah | What is the work done for the 1000.00? | 11:58 |
jelkner | tboimah: we have to accout for it | 11:58 |
jelkner | so we need to decide | 11:58 |
jelkner | one way or the other, tboimah, every dollar must be accounted for | 11:59 |
jelkner | we haven't spent it yet | 11:59 |
tboimah | Okay | 11:59 |
jelkner | or you haven't spent it yet | 11:59 |
jelkner | so its use has not been determined | 11:59 |
jelkner | right now, it is a credit in your account | 11:59 |
jelkner | but to spend it, you must account for it1 | 12:00 |
jelkner | ! | 12:00 |
scooper | That what the message say | 12:00 |
scooper | credit | 12:00 |
jelkner | ok it's time to start, shall we? | 12:00 |
scooper | Txn Credit | 12:00 |
scooper | Amt 1000.00 | 12:00 |
scooper | Ac 5XX.00XX | 12:00 |
jelkner | let's start | 12:01 |
jelkner | who is chairing today? | 12:01 |
scooper | Desc: IWT B/O Social Justice Computing | 12:01 |
scooper | LET ME GO | 12:01 |
jelkner | +1 | 12:01 |
jelkner | Go, my friend, we need to move fast! | 12:01 |
scooper | Basically I will only be updating members on what had happened over the past week | 12:02 |
jelkner | please do | 12:02 |
scooper | Our meeting that was schedule for Sunday with the pastor was not successful due to the pastor schedule for out off town trip | 12:03 |
scooper | But he promise to have a meeting with us on July 27 at the Church edifice | 12:03 |
jelkner | That meeting is really important! | 12:03 |
scooper | In this light I m informing all members to please be present | 12:03 |
jelkner | We need to talk about it before you have it. | 12:04 |
scooper | being it managers or members you are mandatory to attend | 12:04 |
scooper | because it's last change of having a face to face conversation with the pastor and the congregation | 12:05 |
scooper | Because I climax | 12:05 |
scooper | I will like to encourage dcammue | 12:05 |
jelkner | LOL, scooper | 12:05 |
jelkner | in the US, climax has a sexual connotation ;-) | 12:05 |
scooper | to learn to return calls when ever some try calling you | 12:05 |
jelkner | it means the same as orgasm | 12:06 |
jelkner | so i laugh whenever you write that | 12:06 |
scooper | I you all in here that Sunday we are meeting with the pastor since Freena and Shallon didn't turn up | 12:06 |
dcammue | Okay | 12:06 |
scooper | but you did response to my calls on Sunday morning | 12:06 |
scooper | like take for example if the meeting was going to be successful you was definitely going to miss it again | 12:07 |
jelkner | scooper: let me know when i can jump in | 12:07 |
scooper | let do it together | 12:07 |
scooper | you can come in since we done have time | 12:07 |
jelkner | no, we have time | 12:07 |
scooper | Ok | 12:07 |
jelkner | we need to take the time we need | 12:08 |
jelkner | this is *very* important | 12:08 |
scooper | As it relate to the custom duty | 12:08 |
scooper | I spoke to my uncle about this. If it's possible to allow our laptops | 12:09 |
scooper | with out charges placed on it | 12:09 |
jelkner | Mr. Zawolo told me he can take care of that. | 12:09 |
scooper | and him response was how many computer is it?? what it intend | 12:09 |
scooper | ok | 12:09 |
scooper | that is great | 12:09 |
jelkner | He is coming to our meeting with Commy on 7/27 | 12:09 |
scooper | great | 12:10 |
jelkner | i got in touch with him | 12:10 |
jelkner | we'll let him handle that | 12:10 |
scooper | the same time we are meeting with the Emmanuel Temple Church | 12:10 |
jelkner | he said he would talk with you, scooper | 12:10 |
jelkner | yes | 12:10 |
jelkner | ok, scooper, are you finished? | 12:11 |
scooper | Is't possible we arrange a call while in the meeting with the Emmanuel Temple Church at the same when you meeting is ongoing??? | 12:11 |
scooper | ACTION done | 12:11 |
jelkner | No, let's not try to do that scooper | 12:11 |
scooper | ok | 12:11 |
jelkner | Tech problems cause frustration | 12:11 |
jelkner | i'm coming there to do that | 12:11 |
jelkner | ok, may i have the floor? | 12:12 |
scooper | ACTION done | 12:12 |
jelkner | i need to update you all on several things | 12:12 |
jelkner | and then we need to talk about what tboimah did yesterday | 12:12 |
jelkner | since that is how we will move forward together | 12:12 |
jelkner | so, here is my agenda: | 12:13 |
jelkner | 1. Discussion of 7/27 meeting with church | 12:13 |
jelkner | 2. Update on plans for my visit | 12:13 |
jelkner | 3. Decidim discussion | 12:13 |
jelkner | i'll start with 1. | 12:13 |
jelkner | When you go into a meeting like the one you are planning for this Saturday, you need to think ahead of time what you want to get out of it. | 12:14 |
jelkner | What would you leave a successful meeting with? | 12:14 |
jelkner | here are my thoughts on that | 12:14 |
jelkner | we are trying to decide whether we can work with the church to create a school | 12:15 |
jelkner | that is a big project | 12:15 |
jelkner | we need to communicate what we want from the project clearly to them | 12:15 |
jelkner | and we need to get a clear understanding from them of what they want from the project | 12:16 |
jelkner | only if we can find synergies between our respective goals do we have a project | 12:16 |
jelkner | if our goals don't align | 12:16 |
jelkner | we need to walk away from this | 12:16 |
jelkner | does that make sense? | 12:16 |
scooper | yes | 12:16 |
tboimah | +1 | 12:17 |
dcammue | +1 | 12:17 |
jelkner | great | 12:17 |
jelkner | so, from my point of view, here are our goals: | 12:17 |
jelkner | 1. To have a place for Jetro Web Development to operate it's cooperative business | 12:17 |
jelkner | 2. To provide hands on learning opportunities for other students who want to pursue work in ICT | 12:18 |
jelkner | 3. On a "big picture" scale, to promote the growth of the solidarity economy in Liberia | 12:19 |
jelkner | those are my goals for the project | 12:19 |
jelkner | i want a place first and for most where you all can run your business | 12:19 |
tboimah | Nice goal | 12:20 |
jelkner | but what we give back to the community are the other 2 goals | 12:20 |
jelkner | we want to help the country | 12:20 |
jelkner | and we do that by teaching and running a "model business" | 12:20 |
jelkner | so we need to communicate this clearly to the church community | 12:21 |
jelkner | and figure out whether they like those goals or not | 12:21 |
jelkner | and what goals they have | 12:21 |
jelkner | then we see if our goals align | 12:21 |
jelkner | and if we can find win-win cooperation between us | 12:21 |
jelkner | if we can, we move forward | 12:22 |
jelkner | if not, we walk away | 12:22 |
jelkner | and think about another plan | 12:22 |
jelkner | ACTION done on that item | 12:22 |
jelkner | thoughts? | 12:22 |
tboimah | ACTION no thought i agreed with what you are saying | 12:23 |
jelkner | btw. I will be communicating this clearly to Commy on Saturday | 12:23 |
jelkner | i will tell him that while we want to move forward with the school project, we don't know yet if we can | 12:23 |
jelkner | i will tell him that i will update him when i return from Liberia | 12:23 |
jelkner | ok, greta | 12:24 |
jelkner | great | 12:24 |
jelkner | let's move on to the second agenda item | 12:24 |
jelkner | i had to shorten my visit | 12:24 |
scooper | ACTION following but writing down our agenda for the meeting base on the three goals | 12:24 |
jelkner | Mr. Zawolo told me to expect delays in flights to Liberia | 12:25 |
jelkner | so i made a mistake when i booked my flight back for 8/17 | 12:25 |
jelkner | i can't be late to my first day back at school | 12:25 |
jelkner | so i had to change the flight to a week earlier | 12:25 |
jelkner | 8/10 | 12:25 |
jelkner | it was the only flight they had | 12:25 |
jelkner | so we will have to be very efficient in the use of our time | 12:26 |
jelkner | https://git.mcssliberia.org/webcoop/PlanningDocs/src/branch/master/SummerSprint2024 | 12:27 |
jelkner | I updated my flight info | 12:27 |
jelkner | Next week we can talk in detail about our plans | 12:27 |
jelkner | I will depend on Mr. Zawolo to work with scooper on logistics | 12:28 |
jelkner | ACTION done with item 2 | 12:28 |
jelkner | any comments? | 12:28 |
scooper | yes | 12:28 |
scooper | that me you will arrive in liberia Aug 3 and leave Aug 10 right | 12:29 |
scooper | ??? | 12:29 |
jelkner | yes | 12:29 |
scooper | **mean | 12:29 |
jelkner | so 1 week | 12:29 |
jelkner | and, Mr. Zawolo says i might even get stuck in Casablanca for a day or 2 | 12:29 |
jelkner | he says to expect delays | 12:29 |
jelkner | they happen regularly on these flights | 12:30 |
scooper | Hmmm so sad..... | 12:30 |
jelkner | yes, but it is what it is | 12:30 |
jelkner | so let's work with it | 12:30 |
jelkner | if we plan well | 12:31 |
jelkner | a week is enough time to do what we need to do | 12:31 |
jelkner | ok, anything else before we move to tboimah? | 12:31 |
scooper | Our first engagement start on Sunday Aug 4th with the Emmanuel Temple Church and the community | 12:32 |
scooper | And visit the site | 12:32 |
scooper | to see the land in question | 12:32 |
jelkner | +1 | 12:32 |
jelkner | but, scooper, be careful | 12:33 |
jelkner | if Mr. Zawolo is right, i could get delayed | 12:33 |
jelkner | it is the flight to Monrovia that is most unreliable | 12:33 |
jelkner | it happened to me last time | 12:33 |
jelkner | i spent two days waiting by the airport to leave | 12:33 |
jelkner | so we need an A plan and a B plan | 12:33 |
jelkner | the A plan is i arrive as scheduled | 12:34 |
jelkner | the B plan is you warn everyone that if i am delayed, we need to meet during the week | 12:34 |
jelkner | btw. i am updating the payment spreadsheet | 12:34 |
jelkner | https://share.mayfirst.org/s/cQ5HBFjENEJPpEH | 12:34 |
scooper | Last question | 12:35 |
jelkner | so you can track how much we own you | 12:35 |
jelkner | go for it scooper | 12:35 |
scooper | that mean if such unforseen circumstance occurred | 12:35 |
scooper | I might sleep to the air port right?? | 12:35 |
jelkner | no | 12:35 |
scooper | waiting for you??? | 12:35 |
jelkner | let's not do that | 12:35 |
jelkner | i should be able to message you from Casablanca | 12:36 |
scooper | I m asking basic on what you just mentioned | 12:36 |
jelkner | telling you i am going that day or not | 12:36 |
scooper | ooh got you | 12:36 |
jelkner | so i will arrive in Casablanca | 12:36 |
jelkner | i might be told that my connecting flight is cancelled | 12:36 |
jelkner | and i need to stay there an extra day or two | 12:37 |
jelkner | that's what Mr. Zawolo told me | 12:37 |
jelkner | but i will know that hours before i board the flight to Monrovia | 12:37 |
jelkner | giving you plenty of time to get to the airport | 12:37 |
jelkner | Mr. Zawolo knows how this all works, scooper | 12:37 |
jelkner | let' rely on him to guide us | 12:37 |
jelkner | ACTION done | 12:38 |
jelkner | are we ready to move on? | 12:38 |
scooper | Thanks | 12:38 |
scooper | +1 | 12:38 |
jelkner | tboimah: you have the floor | 12:38 |
dcammue | +1 | 12:38 |
tboimah | I was ask yesterday to do some inquire on decidim and here are the few info i was able to inquire Introduction: | 12:39 |
tboimah | • Name: Decidim(Catalan for “We decide”) | 12:39 |
tboimah | • Origin: Developed in Barcelona | 12:39 |
tboimah | • Purpose: Digital platform for participatory democracy | 12:39 |
tboimah | Key features: | 12:39 |
tboimah | • Participatory Tools: Assemblies, Consultation, Initiatives, and Processes | 12:39 |
tboimah | • Functionality: Supports strategic planning, Participatory budgeting, Public consultations, and Collaborative decision-making | 12:39 |
tboimah | • Technology: Built on Ruby on Rails, Open-Source Software | 12:39 |
tboimah | Governance: | 12:39 |
tboimah | • Usage: Widely adopted in Spain and internationally (e.g. Mexico, Italy, France) | 12:39 |
tboimah | • Adaptability: Suitable for various democratic contexts and needs | 12:39 |
tboimah | Transparency and Collaboration: | 12:39 |
tboimah | • Open-Source: Code is publicly available for inspection and modification | 12:39 |
tboimah | • Community-Driven: Emphasis on Transparency, Community contributors, and Democratic collaboration | 12:39 |
jelkner | Wow! | 12:39 |
tboimah | Conclusion: Decidim provide a robust, adaptable platform for fostering participatory democracy, making it a valuable tool for any organization seeking to enhance democratic engagement and decision-making. | 12:39 |
tboimah | Here is a link to there website: https://decidim.org/ | 12:39 |
tboimah | Here is a link to there documentation: https://docs.decidim.org/en/v0.28/index.html | 12:39 |
tboimah | I am will to do more research about this and willing to do any other task | 12:39 |
jelkner | tboimah: that is a brilliant summary! | 12:40 |
tboimah | Thanks | 12:40 |
jelkner | i am super impressed | 12:40 |
jelkner | ok, now let me tell you why i asked you to do that | 12:40 |
jelkner | NOVA Web Development will be making Decidim support a key part of its business plan | 12:40 |
jelkner | We have been devoting our Summer sprint to that end | 12:41 |
jelkner | We are planning on using our own Decidim instance to plan our cooperative | 12:41 |
jelkner | and we will be inviting Jetro to join us | 12:41 |
jelkner | Kei will be coordinating that | 12:42 |
tboimah | That's great | 12:42 |
jelkner | In geek speak that is called "Dogfooding" | 12:42 |
jelkner | i don't know where geeks come up with some of this stuff | 12:42 |
jelkner | but the term comes from the expression, "eating your own dog food" | 12:43 |
jelkner | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_your_own_dog_food | 12:43 |
jelkner | this is a perfect example of that | 12:43 |
jelkner | in order to provide Decidim support | 12:43 |
jelkner | we need to learn the platform | 12:44 |
jelkner | so we will use it internally | 12:44 |
jelkner | to do our own business | 12:44 |
jelkner | as soon as we get this going | 12:44 |
jelkner | i will begin using Decidim to help you plan | 12:44 |
tboimah | Please tell kei i am will to work with her team on this.. | 12:45 |
tboimah | *willing | 12:45 |
jelkner | you just told her ;-) | 12:45 |
jelkner | since she reads these logs | 12:45 |
jelkner | that is awesome, tboimah | 12:45 |
jelkner | expect to hear from her tomorrow | 12:46 |
tboimah | Thanks | 12:46 |
tboimah | Okay | 12:46 |
jelkner | ok, this was a great meeting | 12:46 |
jelkner | let's meet again on Thursday | 12:46 |
jelkner | since we need to get some work done between now and then | 12:46 |
jelkner | scooper: one question i forgot | 12:46 |
jelkner | can you withdraw funds yet? | 12:46 |
scooper | I m listening | 12:47 |
dcammue | jelkner, I was to post mind but tboimah already do all | 12:47 |
jelkner | or is that $1000 stuck in your bank | 12:47 |
dcammue | so I just sit back and watch | 12:47 |
scooper | No | 12:47 |
jelkner | dcammue: work with tboimah and kei | 12:47 |
scooper | Since the registration receipt is not yet avaialable | 12:47 |
jelkner | so it is stuck | 12:47 |
scooper | Jetro three members spencer, thomas and dcammue | 12:48 |
scooper | can withdraw | 12:48 |
jelkner | oh | 12:48 |
jelkner | that's great | 12:48 |
scooper | base on Mr. Saydee recommendation | 12:48 |
jelkner | dcammue: i have a homework assignment for you now | 12:48 |
scooper | That is what I was told yesterday by Mr. Saydee | 12:48 |
dcammue | I am listing | 12:49 |
scooper | the three have to be present | 12:49 |
jelkner | take a look at the UoPeople business degrees | 12:49 |
jelkner | and come Thursday prepared with a summary of what they offer | 12:49 |
scooper | before such transaction can occurred since we done have the receipt yet | 12:49 |
dcammue | Okay | 12:50 |
jelkner | we need to make education a core part of the Jetro plan | 12:50 |
jelkner | i want to know if you are interested in the business degrees | 12:50 |
jelkner | i will be proposing in Decidim that we start with at least two members | 12:50 |
jelkner | who want to enroll in a University program | 12:51 |
jelkner | one in business, and one in computer science | 12:51 |
jelkner | we need to select students who we are confident can earn an A or B grade in their first courses | 12:51 |
jelkner | we will make a contract with SJC | 12:51 |
tboimah | I am will go for it jelkner | 12:51 |
jelkner | that by earning an A or B in the agreed courses, they get paid for their study | 12:52 |
jelkner | one more thing before i go | 12:52 |
dcammue | mistake | 12:52 |
jelkner | dcammue: ?? | 12:52 |
tboimah | sorry that was a mistake | 12:52 |
scooper | One last thing before you leave | 12:52 |
jelkner | what was a mistake? | 12:52 |
jelkner | i don't understand | 12:53 |
jelkner | scooper: go for it | 12:53 |
jelkner | let's do this in parallel | 12:53 |
jelkner | don't wait | 12:53 |
dcammue | i will go for it | 12:53 |
scooper | If what Mr. Saydee is saying is possible we need to withdraw the money | 12:53 |
jelkner | try it out scooper | 12:53 |
dcammue | i type on tboimah computer | 12:53 |
jelkner | one last seed to plant | 12:54 |
scooper | But the is an issue here | 12:54 |
jelkner | i was talking with a friend about our fund raising goals | 12:54 |
scooper | the propose amount for the generator is 1300 | 12:54 |
jelkner | drats | 12:54 |
jelkner | that's my fear | 12:54 |
jelkner | we didn't plan well | 12:54 |
scooper | which is a key factor here | 12:54 |
jelkner | i can make another transfer | 12:54 |
jelkner | but we messed up | 12:55 |
jelkner | we just wasted $50 | 12:55 |
scooper | We were giving it a try | 12:55 |
jelkner | i could have transferred $2000 | 12:55 |
jelkner | yes, scooper | 12:55 |
jelkner | i know | 12:55 |
jelkner | let me make another transfer | 12:55 |
jelkner | brb | 12:56 |
jelkner | i need a quick break | 12:56 |
scooper | so it was not a waste it was a preventive measure | 12:56 |
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tboimah | scooper, have you getting the business registry receipt? | 12:57 |
jelkner | did scooper leave? | 13:00 |
jelkner | i'm back | 13:00 |
jelkner | tboimah, dcammue, are you still here? | 13:00 |
dcammue | +1 | 13:01 |
tboimah | +1 | 13:01 |
jelkner | tboimah? | 13:01 |
jelkner | great | 13:01 |
tboimah | +1 | 13:01 |
jelkner | let me mention one more idea | 13:01 |
jelkner | i was talking with a friend about our need to do fund raising | 13:01 |
jelkner | he suggested we start a YouTube channel to tell our story | 13:01 |
jelkner | so let's explore that idea | 13:01 |
jelkner | SJC could hire Jetro Web to run our YouTube channel | 13:02 |
dcammue | okay | 13:02 |
tboimah | That is a great idea | 13:02 |
jelkner | it would mean making weekly 30 minute videos talking about what we are doing | 13:02 |
jelkner | this is very exciting, my friends! | 13:03 |
jelkner | we are making a lot of progress | 13:03 |
jelkner | ok, next meeting thursday at the same time | 13:03 |
dcammue | okay have a nice day | 13:03 |
jelkner | tomorrow you should hear from kei about decidim | 13:03 |
jelkner | you too dcammue | 13:03 |
tboimah | Okay have a great day | 13:03 |
jelkner | see you thrusday | 13:03 |
jelkner | ACTION signs off | 13:03 |
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scooper | dcammue, | 13:14 |
scooper | did you see my response??? | 13:14 |
dcammue | yeah | 13:14 |
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