| BigBrother | Tick Tock! | 13:00 |
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| BigBrother | It's 13:00 UTC o'clock and NOVA Web Development's meeting is starting. | 13:00 |
| BigBrother | Uh-oh! That is embarassing... | 13:00 |
| BigBrother | Unfortunately, there are no items on the agenda! | 13:00 |
| BigBrother | Have a nice day, Websters! | 13:00 |
| jelkner | Good afternoon svaye! | 14:10 |
| jelkner | Great to see you here. | 14:10 |
| jelkner | Our meeting isn't for 50 minutes, but I'm hoping to be able to chat with Jetro before it starts. | 14:11 |
| jelkner | Good afternoon scooper! | 14:19 |
| scooper | Good after svaye and Good morning jelkner | 14:19 |
| jelkner | scooper, did you get a chance to talk with Mr. Zawolo? | 14:19 |
| scooper | No | 14:20 |
| jelkner | Drats | 14:20 |
| jelkner | That is unfortunate | 14:20 |
| jelkner | He said he will be here today | 14:20 |
| scooper | But we been talking before sending the house pictures he asked for | 14:20 |
| jelkner | ok | 14:20 |
| jelkner | i spoke with him after | 14:21 |
| jelkner | you saw my email yesterday, yes? | 14:21 |
| svaye | Good morning jelkner | 14:21 |
| scooper | +1 | 14:21 |
| svaye | Good afternoon scooper | 14:21 |
| scooper | good afternoon svaye | 14:21 |
| scooper | But I have a concern | 14:21 |
| jelkner | He got me all excited with the idea of building our school / workspace near the new location of the University of Liberia | 14:22 |
| jelkner | but i'm waiting to hear what you all think | 14:22 |
| scooper | we can find a place to buy for the school project but it's not possible to get a land around the University of Liberia campus | 14:22 |
| jelkner | Mr. Zawolo thought we could | 14:22 |
| jelkner | anyway, i leave all that up to you | 14:23 |
| scooper | Yes we could but not around the University campus jelkner | 14:23 |
| jelkner | for my part, i want to focus on short term progress | 14:23 |
| jelkner | i am delighted that Mulbah and Luis have been working together on the chat bot | 14:23 |
| jelkner | That is exactly the kind of thing I want to see happen, and soon! | 14:23 |
| scooper | every where has been bought. buying place there might come with some factor for us. | 14:24 |
| scooper | but let give it a try | 14:24 |
| jelkner | 1. I come to you as customer with a task. | 14:24 |
| jelkner | 2. You work to complete the task and deliver the solution. | 14:24 |
| jelkner | 3. You bill for your time. | 14:24 |
| jelkner | Once you can get into that rhythm, Jetro Web will be set | 14:24 |
| scooper | sure | 14:25 |
| jelkner | I am confident we can find you all the business you can handle | 14:25 |
| jelkner | Once you can handle it | 14:25 |
| jelkner | So we need to talk a lot now about the *project teams* that we will be continually forming | 14:25 |
| jelkner | Who, for example, will work with Blu and Sahnun on SECOSOL, Clean Cooking Stove, SJC, etc.? | 14:26 |
| jelkner | scooper, when will the others arrive? | 14:26 |
| scooper | Scooper | 14:26 |
| scooper | At 3:00 according to your mail | 14:26 |
| scooper | you send | 14:27 |
| jelkner | yes, that is in 30 minutes, right? | 14:29 |
| scooper | +1 | 14:29 |
| jelkner | ok | 14:29 |
| jelkner | should we try the video chat? | 14:30 |
| scooper | ok | 14:30 |
| scooper | jelkner, | 14:32 |
| scooper | can you see me?? | 14:32 |
| jelkner | No | 14:33 |
| jelkner | I just joined the room | 14:33 |
| jelkner | it should be active now | 14:33 |
| jelkner | but i'm alone there | 14:33 |
| scooper | I did and receive this message "The Conference has not yet start because not moderator " | 14:35 |
| scooper | *no moderator | 14:35 |
| jelkner | right, but i'm there now | 14:35 |
| jelkner | hold on, in need to switch wifi network | 14:36 |
| jelkner | try again scooper | 14:36 |
| scooper | ok | 14:36 |
| jelkner | https://meet.mayfirst.org/SocialJusticeComputing | 14:36 |
| fkoikoi | Good Morning jelkner, scooper and svaye | 14:47 |
| jelkner | Good afternoon fkoikoi | 14:50 |
| fkoikoi | I'm here jelkner | 14:52 |
| jelkner | Good day Gaprinho | 14:52 |
| scooper | me too | 14:52 |
| svaye | Good afternoon fkoikoi and Gaprinho | 14:52 |
| jelkner | Who is Gaprinho? | 14:52 |
| Gaprinho | Gabriel | 14:52 |
| Gaprinho | ./nick Gabriel | 14:52 |
| jelkner | Gabriel, good afternoon! | 14:54 |
| jelkner | Good morning Tanaka_Chirara_! | 14:54 |
| jelkner | You made it. | 14:54 |
| Gabriel | How're you, Jeff | 14:54 |
| jelkner | Great to see you! | 14:54 |
| Tanaka_Chirara_ | Good morning Jeff | 14:54 |
| jelkner | How is life in Indianna? | 14:55 |
| Tanaka_Chirara_ | Life is Indiana is going well, we kust received our first snow | 14:55 |
| dcammue | Good day everyone | 14:57 |
| tboimah | Good day folks | 14:58 |
| fkoikoi | Good afternoon svaye | 14:58 |
| svaye | Good afternoon fkoikoi | 15:00 |
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| fkoikoi | it's 3:00pm now jelkner | 15:02 |
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| scooper | jelkner, we gone seven minutes into the meeting time already, are we awaiting other before starting?? | 15:08 |
| Stephen | I will send out a description of the site that we created a year ago when the system was worked on last... | 15:10 |
| jelkner | Stephen, I commit to working with Jetro this week to decide who will be the lead on this project | 15:11 |
| jelkner | SJC can commit to paying for their time, so this can be a billable project for them | 15:11 |
| jelkner | but they need to use this to learn how to manage a project | 15:12 |
| jelkner | to: | 15:12 |
| jelkner | 1. Find customer needs | 15:12 |
| jelkner | 2. Develop a plan to meet those needs | 15:12 |
| jelkner | 3. Deliver the goods | 15:12 |
| jelkner | 4. Send a bill | 15:12 |
| Stephen | Spencer was working on it last in February of this year... | 15:12 |
| Tanaka_Chirara | Since I am also now majoring in Computer Science, I am also willing to join the team working on the project | 15:12 |
| jelkner | awesome! | 15:12 |
| jelkner | that would be great | 15:12 |
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| jelkner | so, let's come back in a week | 15:13 |
| jelkner | at this same time and place | 15:13 |
| fkoikoi | jeff | 15:13 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi, | 15:13 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi, we need to move | 15:14 |
| jelkner | i'm waiting | 15:14 |
| fkoikoi | can I give a update | 15:14 |
| jelkner | please | 15:14 |
| scooper | +1 | 15:14 |
| fkoikoi | alrigh, thanks | 15:15 |
| fkoikoi | last week Monday, Daniel and I visited the Liberia Business registry | 15:15 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi, i thought you were going to update us on Clean Cooking Stove | 15:16 |
| jelkner | let's not keep Tanaka_Chirara and Stephen with that | 15:16 |
| jelkner | we can talk about that after | 15:16 |
| fkoikoi | oh sorry | 15:16 |
| jelkner | right now, we need to decide what to do about this project | 15:16 |
| scooper | jelkner, | 15:16 |
| jelkner | scooper, | 15:16 |
| scooper | let me take the lead on this projec | 15:16 |
| scooper | and the other can buttress me through | 15:17 |
| jelkner | so, scooper, by next Saturday can you meet with the rest of Jetro | 15:17 |
| scooper | I think this time we can make an end of this project successfully | 15:17 |
| jelkner | and decide who will be responsible for this along with you | 15:17 |
| jelkner | We need to give Tanaka_Chirara access to the server in Germany | 15:17 |
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| jelkner | Tanaka_Chirara, we are learning Django | 15:18 |
| jelkner | are you familiar with that at all? | 15:18 |
| jelkner | It's a Python web application framework | 15:18 |
| scooper | All we need for Tanaka is a User story. How he want this site to look and function | 15:18 |
| jelkner | scooper, Tanaka_Chirara is studying CS | 15:18 |
| jelkner | and this is his project | 15:19 |
| Tanaka_Chirara | Yes I have started learning Django | 15:19 |
| jelkner | awesome! | 15:19 |
| jelkner | that will be a huge help | 15:19 |
| jelkner | because we want to end up with something you can controol | 15:19 |
| jelkner | control | 15:20 |
| jelkner | ;-) | 15:20 |
| Tanaka_Chirara | that is awesome | 15:20 |
| jelkner | ok, scooper we need a good sys admin involved in this | 15:20 |
| jelkner | deploying web apps requires that | 15:20 |
| jelkner | i don't know who you have in mind | 15:21 |
| jelkner | mulbah? | 15:21 |
| jelkner | but you need to have that in place | 15:21 |
| jelkner | scooper, can you decide that during the week and come to the meeting next saturday with a plan? | 15:21 |
| scooper | sure, but I discovered a platform called render that making deploying easy | 15:21 |
| scooper | ok | 15:21 |
| scooper | I will confront Mulbah | 15:21 |
| jelkner | you can propose we look at that | 15:22 |
| scooper | on this and get back to you | 15:22 |
| jelkner | but trust me, scooper | 15:22 |
| jelkner | there is no silver bullet as the saying goes | 15:22 |
| Stephen | An item to consider is whether its better to have an App or a phone-friendly website... | 15:22 |
| jelkner | nothing will allow us not to get good at what we're doing | 15:22 |
| jelkner | "easy" solutions tend to be inflexible | 15:22 |
| jelkner | and as soon as customer needs deviate from the script | 15:23 |
| jelkner | your stuck | 15:23 |
| Tanaka_Chirara | I would guess an app | 15:23 |
| jelkner | Tanaka_Chirara, web app | 15:23 |
| jelkner | is the easiest | 15:23 |
| scooper | Web app | 15:23 |
| jelkner | it requires installing nothing on the phone | 15:23 |
| scooper | Tanaka | 15:23 |
| Tanaka_Chirara | Yes that works | 15:23 |
| jelkner | all you need is a browser | 15:23 |
| Tanaka_Chirara | it is easier to access | 15:23 |
| jelkner | and it will work from any phone that has a browser | 15:24 |
| Tanaka_Chirara | That is true | 15:24 |
| jelkner | that's what we want to learn in any case | 15:24 |
| jelkner | since it is the right recipe in general, and definitely for developing work users | 15:24 |
| jelkner | and there is now reason not to in this case | 15:25 |
| scooper | Tanaka, all you need to do is give us a user story about what you expect from project. This is give us a clear picture on how to go about doing this | 15:25 |
| jelkner | the only compelling argument for a native app is need for access to the user's phone internally | 15:25 |
| jelkner | that is not the case here | 15:25 |
| jelkner | let's talk more next Saturday | 15:25 |
| Stephen | How do folks handle bad actors who upload X-rated photos or hostile text... | 15:26 |
| Tanaka_Chirara | I can create a word document with more details if that helps | 15:26 |
| jelkner | Ahh | 15:26 |
| jelkner | great question | 15:26 |
| jelkner | well, the problem here is more social than technical | 15:26 |
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| Stephen | I've a description that I will email out from when the site was worked on late last year and early this year... | 15:26 |
| jelkner | we need to think about what kind of relationship we want (and can support) with users | 15:26 |
| jelkner | simplest thing is moderated upload | 15:27 |
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| jelkner | if i understand Tanaka_Chirara correctly | 15:27 |
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| jelkner | we want people who are using his design to share their stories | 15:27 |
| fkoikoi | Mr. Zawolo is on the vidoe chat jelkner | 15:27 |
| Stephen | I've got to run... | 15:28 |
| jelkner | next week Stephen? | 15:28 |
| jelkner | same time same place? | 15:28 |
| Tanaka_Chirara | That is true jeff you got it write | 15:28 |
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| jelkner | great Tanaka_Chirara | 15:28 |
| Stephen | Yes. There may be tools we can use to block simple bad stuff so the site is not so much work. Bye... | 15:28 |
| jelkner | i have your email Tanaka_Chirara | 15:28 |
| Stephen | See everyone next Saturday here... | 15:28 |
| jelkner | i'll email you asking for your phone number | 15:28 |
| jelkner | so we can talk more | 15:29 |
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| jelkner | see you next Saturday | 15:29 |
| Tanaka_Chirara | See you Jeff | 15:29 |
| Gabriel | okay jeff | 15:29 |
| Gabriel | have a nice day | 15:29 |
| jelkner | Tanaka_Chirara, you're welcome to stay | 15:29 |
| jelkner | but we have some other Jetro issues to talk about | 15:29 |
| Tanaka_Chirara | Alright then I am staying | 15:30 |
| jelkner | great | 15:30 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi, you're on | 15:30 |
| fkoikoi | yes | 15:30 |
| fkoikoi | Mr. zawolo just left | 15:30 |
| jelkner | ok friends, i have 30 minutes | 15:31 |
| jelkner | and we have two very important things to decide | 15:31 |
| jelkner | what do you all think about renting the place from scooper's mom for one year? | 15:32 |
| jelkner | jetro needs a place to work! | 15:32 |
| jelkner | if you can't have a place to do work with reliable electricity and internet, you can't do business | 15:32 |
| jelkner | simple as that | 15:32 |
| jelkner | you have a generator now | 15:32 |
| fkoikoi | that's a great idea oo | 15:32 |
| Ved | what are all the costs associated with renting it for one year? | 15:33 |
| dcammue | jelkner, did scooper tell you how much his mother renting the house for? | 15:33 |
| jelkner | great question Ved | 15:33 |
| jelkner | no, dcammue | 15:33 |
| jelkner | and what frustrates me is that i emailed you all to discuss this | 15:33 |
| jelkner | and when we meet, i am looking to you all to tell me what you decide | 15:33 |
| dcammue | okay i will give him a call to know how much fot the house. | 15:33 |
| jelkner | instead, you're not ready | 15:33 |
| jelkner | so another week goes by | 15:34 |
| jelkner | and we drag our feet | 15:34 |
| jelkner | IT businesses don't work that way | 15:34 |
| jelkner | as the saying goes, they move at the speed of the net | 15:34 |
| jelkner | if you can't keep up, you'll fall off the back and be lost :-( | 15:34 |
| jelkner | In addition to Clean Cooking Stove | 15:35 |
| jelkner | We have all the work you can handle | 15:35 |
| jelkner | you have to decide if you want to do this | 15:35 |
| jelkner | and then make it happen | 15:35 |
| jelkner | i'm here with you | 15:35 |
| jelkner | but you have to keep moving forward | 15:35 |
| jelkner | at the speed of the net | 15:35 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 15:36 |
| scooper | Perfectly said jelkner | 15:36 |
| devesh_ | +1 | 15:36 |
| Tanaka_Chirara | +1 | 15:36 |
| jelkner | so, let's meet again here next saturday | 15:37 |
| jelkner | and jetro, please come ready | 15:37 |
| dcammue | +1 | 15:37 |
| scooper | +1 | 15:37 |
| Gabriel | +1 | 15:37 |
| Tanaka_Chirara | +1 | 15:37 |
| jelkner | tboimah, i asked you fill out the May first application | 15:37 |
| fkoikoi | +1 | 15:37 |
| jelkner | did you? | 15:37 |
| jelkner | ok everyone, see you next week | 15:38 |
| tboimah | I been out of internet for the past days jelkner | 15:38 |
| jelkner | Tanaka_Chirara, it is exciting to have you here with us | 15:38 |
| scooper | tboimah, | 15:38 |
| tboimah | but i promise i will do that today please | 15:38 |
| tboimah | scooper, | 15:38 |
| jelkner | great | 15:38 |
| scooper | let talk privately concerning your message | 15:38 |
| scooper | before you leave | 15:38 |
| Tanaka_Chirara | It was nice joining you | 15:39 |
| jelkner | see you next week | 15:39 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off | 15:39 |
| Tanaka_Chirara | I am looking forward to our next meeting | 15:39 |
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| scooper | Daniel | 15:55 |
| scooper | I missed you call | 15:55 |
| dcammue | yes, I was calling you to ask you about the same house business | 15:57 |
| scooper | Ok | 15:57 |
| dcammue | but I will send text to everyone for meeting on mmonday for us to discuss this | 15:57 |
| scooper | I suggest tboimah told you already right | 15:57 |
| scooper | great | 15:58 |
| scooper | what time | 15:58 |
| scooper | OK guy I m leaving now | 15:59 |
| scooper | ACTION signing out | 15:59 |
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| dcammue | in the after noon time by 1pm | 16:00 |
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