IRC log of #jetrowebdev for Tuesday, 2025-04-29

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jelknerGood morning thomasboimah, freena, and mulbah!10:46
thomasboimahGood morning jelkner 10:47
mulbahGood morning jelkner10:47
mulbahHow are you10:47
freenaGood morning jelkner 10:48
jelknercjones should be here by 11:00 UTC10:50
jelknerwe'll wait for him to start10:50
freenaOkay 10:50
freenaHe's here now 10:50
freenaGood morning cjones 10:50
thomasboimahGood morning cjones 10:51
cjonesgood morning everyone. hope you are all doing well today10:51
jelknerah, he's here nmow...10:51
jelknernow10:51
jelknerlet's start10:51
jelknersince cjones is still at home and needs to come to ACC after we meet ;-)10:51
jelknerthomasboimah, mulbah this is mainly a quick check-in with the two of you10:52
jelknerfreena, you need to be aware of what's going on, since you're managing the project10:52
jelknerwe have made a good first start with the development process10:52
jelknerbut we have a long way to go, so the quicker we move towards our goal, the better10:53
cjonesYep - you both made PRs, which is a big step. I know htat's a tricky process =)10:53
cjonesI left pretty detailed comments on both - did you both get a chance to read them?10:53
jelknerso, i walk across the narrow hallway in our trailer to talk with cjones all the time10:53
jelknerand we spoke yesterday several times about your PRs10:54
thomasboimahcjones, i saw the email10:54
thomasboimahWith your comment10:54
jelknerprogress in submitting them, good work, but now lets go for an improved round 210:54
cjones Just so everyone has them, here are links to the two comments I left: 10:54
jelknercjones, let me try to summarize what you told me10:54
cjoneshttps://github.com/ACCDjangoGirls/culinary_webapp/pull/4010:54
cjoneshttps://github.com/ACCDjangoGirls/culinary_webapp/pull/4810:54
jelknerso you can correct me if i have miss understood10:54
jelknera few take aways10:55
jelkner1. when you take a ticket, implement the task in the ticket, but don't add new things to your commit that are not on the ticket10:55
jelknerif you think a feature is lacking, make a new ticket10:55
jelkner2. it is ok to use AI to help you write code, but if you are going to be pros, it should not be apparent to us that you did so10:56
jelkneryour code should show the intelligent touch of a human being *after* you get it from the AI10:56
jelknerso it should:10:56
jelknera. Be stylistically consistent10:56
jelkner(eventually we'll have our own style guide)10:57
jelknerb. Be as simple and direct a solution as you can make it10:57
jelkner(sometimes AIs give you more code then you need, you should recognize what isn't need and CUT IT)10:58
jelkneri think that's what i remember, cjones, am i missing anything?10:58
jelknerACTION done10:58
cjonesnope I think that's a good summary!10:58
cjonesthomasboimah, mulbah - any questions about any of this feedback?11:00
thomasboimah-1 cjones all clear, I will email you if there is any11:01
mulbahsame with me cjones11:01
cjonesgood. I see that gabriel isn't here. It looks like he is still having trouble committing his code. Are either of you able to help?11:02
cjones(his comment about trouble here: https://github.com/ACCDjangoGirls/culinary_webapp/issues/19#issuecomment-2831780885 )11:02
thomasboimahOf course, I will call him and talk to him about that11:03
cjonesgreat - I know git can be tricky. I'm happy to schedule an IRC meeting if that helps11:03
cjonesthomasboimah, we should also discuss the comments on the issue you're working on. Here's what the other team member said on your ticket: "Yes, events.html is made. If @tboimah still wants to work on events then events still needs owned rows but events.html has been made."11:04
cjones(that's Spark-3, whose name is Lucy)11:04
cjonesI took a look and confirmed that all of the views and templates already exist for events. thomasboimah it looks like someone had already started on that when we assigned you the ticket, and then the team realized that and closed your ticket on Friday while I was out11:05
cjonessorry for the confusion!11:06
thomasboimahyeah11:06
thomasboimahI mean that in the PR11:06
thomasboimah*mention11:06
cjonesSo would you like to work on adding owners to events? You also suggested adding images, which I think is also a good idea11:06
thomasboimahYou tell me cjones , You what is going to be better11:07
thomasboimah*know11:07
jelknerok cjones needs to get to work11:08
jelknerwe need to make these meetings short11:08
cjonesyeah, i need to log off in a few minutes11:08
jelkneri have one more thing to talk about, but you don't need to stick around for it cjones 11:09
cjonesthomasboimah, do you understand the concept of owned rows? If so, maybe work on adding that to all the models?11:09
jelkneryou can just read it in the log11:09
thomasboimahOKay11:09
cjonesok will do. thomasboimah, feel free to message me to chat about this11:09
jelkner+111:09
thomasboimahOkay cjones thanks11:09
thomasboimahjelkner, 11:10
jelknerthomasboimah, freena i'm going to make the wire transfer for May today11:10
jelknerthomasboimah, 11:10
jelknerlet11:10
jelknerlet's talk about our new process, evaluate the 1st month *very* briefly, and look ahead11:10
thomasboimahyou said we was going to discuss on what you will be expecting for May11:10
jelkneryes, my friend, that's what i'm saying!11:10
jelknerlol11:10
jelknerthat's the "look ahead" part11:11
cjonesOne more thing before I log off - FYI I'll plan to open IRC while my Django students are meeting today, which I think starts at 330 UTC. No pressure if that time doesn't work for you11:11
jelkner;-)11:11
jelknerthey should join cjones 11:11
jelkner*definitely*11:11
jelknersince i11:11
jelkneri'm the funder, i'll apply the pressure ;-)11:11
cjonesgreat - I'll talk to anyone who can join then. logging off now. See you all later =)11:11
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jelknerok, i will be transferring $1000 today11:12
jelknerit takes a few days to get there11:12
jelkner$800 is by agreement, $400 each monthly salary for thomasboimah and freena 11:12
jelknerthe other $200 is toward saving for the office11:13
jelkneri expect to see it in the bank statement if you want me to repeat that next month11:13
jelkneryou need to budget for the place jetro is going to rent11:13
jelknerand save for it11:13
jelknersaving and planning is a skill and practice you'll need to develop to run a business11:14
freenaThanks alot jelkner 11:14
jelknerquestions?11:14
thomasboimahThanks jelkner for all the support11:14
thomasboimahWe appreciate11:14
jelknerthank you for all your effort11:14
mulbahThanks jelkner11:14
freenajelkner, what do you have to say about the mail thomasboimah sent you??11:14
jelknermulbah, let's make it a goal to get you paid at least something on June 1st11:14
thomasboimahfreena, jelkner respond to that11:15
jelknerthomasboimah, when?11:15
jelknerare you talking about the Decidim idea?11:15
thomasboimahIt is concerning the Decidim Liberia11:15
thomasboimahsure11:15
freenaI saw it thomasboimah but jelkner said we will discuss it here in this meeting 11:15
jelkneroh, yes, I was *THRILLED*!!!11:15
jelknerbut remember, we aren't ready yet11:15
jelknerso that is a longer term goal11:16
jelknerwe (Jetro and NOVA Web, I mean)11:16
jelknerwill be learning Decidim together11:16
jelknerit looks like a great tool for so many things we want to do11:16
jelknerso the dream of having it impact movements in West Africa (and beyond)11:17
jelkneris a fantastic one11:17
jelknerbut it will take years of effort to get there11:17
thomasboimahOkay11:17
mulbahOkay jelkner we will really improve in Django we will be host a self class on Saturday each person will be teaching what they understand to help us move faster11:17
freenaAlright 11:17
jelknera journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step11:17
jelknerso let's walk! ;-)11:17
jelknermulbah, here is the concrete goal for you for May11:18
jelknerWork with cjones to be able to complete tickets to his standards11:18
jelknerwhen he marks a ticket complete, you get to bill for it11:18
mulbahsure11:18
jelknerI will be *so happy* to pay those invoices!!11:19
jelknersince it will mean we have accomplished our goal of doing billable work11:19
jelkneronce i am confident you can do it11:19
jelknerwe can reach out for other paying customers11:19
jelknerand soon you will have all the work you can handle11:19
jelkneri don't know now long "soon" is11:19
mulbahyes that why we will be working together as a Team thomasboimah Grable and I11:19
jelknerbut it's coming11:19
jelknerperfect!11:20
jelknerwe need a team11:20
jelknerlet me be honest11:20
jelknerI don't think NOVA Web can do this without you11:20
jelknerKei is quickly growing into her power as a project manager11:20
jelknerbut she isn't a dev11:20
jelknershe and freena have similar roles to play in the two coops11:21
jelknerwithout the dev team (and it needs to be a team)11:21
jelknerwe don't have a product11:21
freenaSure 11:21
jelkneri've tried since 2012 to make the numbers work with young folks here in the U.S.11:21
jelknerit doesn't add up11:21
jelknerthe only people here who have the money are the theives and the killers11:22
jelkneryou've heard me say that before, i think ;-)11:22
jelknerif we want to do truly social justice computing11:22
jelkner(and if i'm can't do social justice computing, i'll just walk away from tech altogether)11:23
jelknerwe need a dev team that can live on the resources we can get for it11:23
jelkneryou can11:23
jelknerwe can't11:23
jelknermake sense?11:23
thomasboimah+1 sir!11:23
freena+111:23
jelknerok, my dear beloved friends, let's do it!11:24
jelkneri need to go11:24
jelknerlet's meet again on thursday?11:24
thomasboimahOkay jelkner have a nice day teaching11:24
jelknerthanks, thomasboimah 11:24
freenaOkay jelkner 11:24
jelknerthomasboimah, mulbah show up to cjones class today11:24
freenaHave a great day jelkner 11:24
jelknervery important11:24
jelknersee you11:24
mulbahjelkner by the grace of God everything will be okay 11:24
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thomasboimahOkay11:24
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thomasboimahsee you guys11:25
thomasboimahACTION signing off11:25
freenaYou too thomasboimah 11:25
mulbahthomasboimah11:25
thomasboimahmulbah, 11:25
mulbahdo you know the link to the clas11:25
mulbahclass11:25
thomasboimahThe class will be here mulbah In the hexchat11:26
mulbah3 Oclock right11:26
thomasboimahsure11:26
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cjoneshi friends - our Django class is starting soon. I'll be here for the next ~90 minutes. My students here in class will be working and updating their tickets. No specific agenda, but feel free to ask questions or let me know if you would like me to help connect you with any specific students to chat about issues15:30
thomasboimahOKAY15:31
cjonesOur students in class just finished our standup meeting where we talked through all the work that everyone is working on. The culinary team is about to sit down and review all of the open pull requests. So you can expect some changes on the main branch coming in the next hour. If you all have feature branches, you'll want to merge these changes from main15:57
cjonesmulbah, they're going to merge some code that focuses on create/edit/deleting news items. this duplicates some from your PRs, so merging will be important for you. All the CSS that you wrote for news items is still your own and useful!15:59
cjonesThey're done merging the code that relates to news. So mulbah you should be good to merge those changes now. let me know if you need help with that!16:07
mulbahokay16:09
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mulbahcjones which book we will be reading from I have a tutorial that I'm watching for my study16:20
cjonescool. In our class, we've been following these tutorials: https://www.dj4e.com/16:23
mulbahOkay thanks16:25
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mulbahcjones can I choose new issue now to work on16:26
cjonesI just finished creating a new issue for you: https://github.com/ACCDjangoGirls/culinary_webapp/issues/5116:27
cjonesI I also connected your open PR to this issue. I think this does a good job of describing the PR that you already opened. Feel free to edit it if you have other thoughts16:30
mulbahokay16:33
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