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| jelkner | Good morning dcammue | 10:51 |
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| dcammue | Good morning jelkner | 11:01 |
| dcammue | How its been going? | 11:02 |
| jelkner | dcammue, did you see my email? | 11:04 |
| jelkner | can you call thomas, mulbah and gabriel please? | 11:04 |
| dcammue | let me check jelkner | 11:05 |
| jelkner | i was hoping to see them here | 11:05 |
| jelkner | we should probably have "stand up meetings" every day at 11:00 UTC | 11:05 |
| dcammue | no worry jelkner | 11:05 |
| jelkner | are you calling them, dcammue? | 11:06 |
| jelkner | klarios, i'm composing an email to the two members@ addresses of our coops | 11:08 |
| jelkner | May 1st is tomorrow | 11:08 |
| jelkner | at that time, klarios and anthony_p will be the worker owners of NOVA Web | 11:08 |
| klarios | that's right it is | 11:08 |
| jelkner | and Thomas and Freena will be the salaried worker owners of Jetro web | 11:09 |
| jelkner | if I were y'all, i would arrange for 10 to 15 minute "stand up meetings" every weekday | 11:09 |
| jelkner | and make it clear y'all need to show | 11:09 |
| jelkner | finding a mutually agreeable time may be challenging | 11:10 |
| thomasboimah | Greetings folks | 11:10 |
| jelkner | i can do this time, but i am not important, YOU ARE! | 11:10 |
| klarios | True. I make regular announcements on telegram but meetings are better | 11:10 |
| jelkner | my job will be to support, complain (nag, nag, nag) and whine ;-) | 11:10 |
| jelkner | klarios, transparency | 11:11 |
| jelkner | we have logs here | 11:11 |
| jelkner | we need easily accessible records of what we are doing | 11:11 |
| jelkner | so we can learn from it | 11:11 |
| dcammue | i just did call them | 11:11 |
| jelkner | it's your business, but i'll just suggest that what you are doing now isn't working | 11:12 |
| klarios | +1 true | 11:12 |
| jelkner | we can't seem to fix things in a timely way, or satisfy customer needs | 11:12 |
| jelkner | don't know how we can have a business if we can't do that | 11:12 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, gabriel_jetro, did you see my email from yesterday asking if you're interested in paid work? | 11:13 |
| klarios | we wont satisfy costumer needs until we have enough capacity to start doing that | 11:13 |
| gabriel_jetro | +1 | 11:13 |
| thomasboimah | +1 | 11:13 |
| jelkner | yes, klarios, SO BUILDING CAPACITY is our central task!!! | 11:13 |
| klarios | that's right it is | 11:13 |
| jelkner | we should be focusing almost all our energy on that | 11:14 |
| jelkner | that's what i'm trying to do | 11:14 |
| klarios | I want to make this scalable for those who are joining us in the future and those in now | 11:14 |
| klarios | that right I as well | 11:14 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, gabriel_jetro, i need to be frank with you | 11:14 |
| jelkner | we are asking a lot | 11:14 |
| klarios | in terms of them showing up. They have been filling out reports on decidim | 11:14 |
| jelkner | but you all need to continue growning your skills at a rapid pace | 11:14 |
| klarios | and we have been giving them feedback | 11:15 |
| jelkner | that's great | 11:15 |
| jelkner | super | 11:15 |
| jelkner | and that is SO important | 11:15 |
| mulbah | Good morning | 11:15 |
| jelkner | but as you and i discussed yesterday | 11:15 |
| jelkner | we need to be able to "put out fires" at the same time | 11:15 |
| jelkner | and we are not putting out fires | 11:15 |
| klarios | we're still learning the basics but the fires got to be put out | 11:15 |
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| klarios | yeah +1 | 11:15 |
| jelkner | looks like thomas dropped off | 11:16 |
| jelkner | gabriel_jetro, mulbah, what do you think about my email? | 11:16 |
| jelkner | is that a task you can take on? | 11:16 |
| klarios | I sent a reply to jetroweb members. I did some research about it | 11:17 |
| gabriel_jetro | Sure, we can, but we need to discuss how to go about. | 11:17 |
| jelkner | great, gabriel_jetro | 11:17 |
| jelkner | that's what i planned to do here | 11:17 |
| mulbah | yes | 11:17 |
| klarios | if you check that reply you will see the mayfirst guide to adding these protocols to our DNS record gabriel_jetro mulbah | 11:17 |
| jelkner | but let me ask you to respect my time | 11:17 |
| jelkner | remember, i have to teach | 11:17 |
| jelkner | so where were you at 11:00 UTC? | 11:17 |
| jelkner | it's now 11:18, the meeting should be over | 11:18 |
| jelkner | instead we're just getting it started | 11:18 |
| jelkner | i can't do that | 11:18 |
| jelkner | my students will arrive | 11:18 |
| jelkner | and i won't be ready for them | 11:18 |
| jelkner | so, let me suggest how you solve technical problems like this in 5 minutes | 11:18 |
| jelkner | and then let's see what you can do | 11:18 |
| jelkner | we can meet again tomorrow at 11:00 UTC | 11:19 |
| jelkner | and you can tell me how far you got. | 11:19 |
| klarios | sounds good jelkner | 11:19 |
| jelkner | The email bounce message contains a documentation link: | 11:19 |
| jelkner | https://support.google.com/a/answer/81126?visit_id=638816087622842474-1131508635&rd=1#authentication | 11:19 |
| jelkner | you begin there | 11:20 |
| jelkner | email is *very* complicated, and it is an old, messy protocol | 11:20 |
| jelkner | but we just need to figure out how to fix our immediate problem | 11:20 |
| jelkner | so you start by reading that page | 11:20 |
| jelkner | then you look for terms you don't recognize | 11:20 |
| mulbah | alright | 11:20 |
| gabriel_jetro | Okay | 11:21 |
| jelkner | ASPF, DKIM, and DMARC perhaps? ;-) | 11:21 |
| jelkner | you read about those | 11:21 |
| gabriel_jetro | Okay | 11:21 |
| jelkner | first step in any problem like this is: INVESTIGATION | 11:21 |
| jelkner | once you feel like you have an idea of what the issue is, you begin to develop a plan | 11:22 |
| jelkner | btw. May First tech support can be a real help here | 11:22 |
| jelkner | you are members of May First, May First is a coop | 11:22 |
| jelkner | you can file a ticket asking for help with this | 11:22 |
| jelkner | to be effective in business, RELATIONSHIP BUILDING is really important | 11:23 |
| gabriel_jetro | Okay | 11:23 |
| jelkner | you wont' be able to put out fires effectively unless you develop good working relationships with the folks providing our infrastructure - May First | 11:23 |
| jelkner | we can talk about good netiquette on this though | 11:23 |
| jelkner | don't ask for help until you have DONE YOUR PART | 11:24 |
| jelkner | that is rude and disrespectful | 11:24 |
| jelkner | in my experience, people will be much more eager (and happy) to help you when you show you have put in effort | 11:24 |
| jelkner | by doing the invesigation first | 11:25 |
| jelkner | we need to get anthony_p into this conversation | 11:25 |
| jelkner | i know he is busy, but if he wants to be the owner of NOVA Web, and he wants NOVA Web to continue to exist | 11:25 |
| jelkner | he'll need to allocate some time to our development here | 11:25 |
| jelkner | ok, that's all i have time for now | 11:26 |
| jelkner | see what you can do, and let's check in tomorrow at the same time | 11:26 |
| jelkner | agreed? | 11:26 |
| klarios | +1 agreed jelkner | 11:26 |
| thomasboimah | Okay | 11:26 |
| gabriel_jetro | +1 | 11:26 |
| mulbah | +1 | 11:26 |
| jelkner | Super! gabriel_jetro and mulbah we have to make it a goal to get you paid in May | 11:27 |
| jelkner | that means you have to do billable work | 11:27 |
| jelkner | so let's get to it! | 11:27 |
| jelkner | cya tomorrow at 11 UTC... | 11:27 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off | 11:27 |
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| gabriel_jetro | Bye everyone | 11:28 |
| klarios | bye gabriel_jetro | 11:28 |
| klarios | let me knw if you need more guidance on the email | 11:28 |
| klarios | I did some research yesterday and have it figured out | 11:28 |
| mulbah | okay klarios | 11:28 |
| klarios | have a good rest of your day! | 11:28 |
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| dcammue | mulbah, | 11:55 |
| dcammue | gabriel_jetro, | 11:56 |
| mulbah | yes | 11:57 |
| dcammue | have you fine the issue | 11:57 |
| mulbah | finish or fine | 11:57 |
| mulbah | ?? | 11:58 |
| dcammue | fine | 11:58 |
| dcammue | you know the issue for the mail bouncing back? | 11:58 |
| mulbah | Oh I thought you was talking on Django stuff | 11:58 |
| mulbah | Not fully siting making more research | 11:59 |
| dcammue | but can you guys access the novawebdevelopment.coop hosting provider | 12:02 |
| mulbah | no I do have | 12:03 |
| mulbah | do you have | 12:03 |
| mulbah | ?? | 12:03 |
| dcammue | i just did a research and it is caused by novawebdevelopment.coop not properly authenticated | 12:03 |
| dcammue | the SPF and DKIM fail so the message will not reach | 12:05 |
| mulbah | oh yes I have access to it | 12:06 |
| mulbah | the server | 12:07 |
| dcammue | the SPF(sender policy framework)isn't set up correctly for the domain. It tells Gmail which IP addresses are allowed to send emails for a domain. | 12:07 |
| mulbah | can you pls forward the mail jeff send to my main email I trying to login but not going through | 12:07 |
| dcammue | and the DKIM(DomainKeys Identified Mail) signs the messages to prove they weren’t tampered with. isn’t passing either. | 12:09 |
| dcammue | so the mail will bounced back to the sender | 12:09 |
| dcammue | okay, i will do so | 12:09 |
| dcammue | your gmail? i don't have it | 12:10 |
| dcammue | please send it | 12:10 |
| mulbah | mulbahtkolleh@gmail.com | 12:11 |
| dcammue | you saw it? | 12:18 |
| dcammue | check | 12:18 |
| mulbah | yes thanks | 12:21 |
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| dcammue | so, are you working on it? | 12:41 |
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