IRC log of #jetrowebdev for Thursday, 2025-05-01

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gabriel_jetroGood morning, thomasboimah, mulbah, svaye and websterss_10:44
thomasboimahGood morning gabriel_jetro and all10:44
mulbahgood morning10:45
jkollieGood morning thomasboimah and everyone 10:45
svayeGood morning gabriel_jetro , and everyone 10:46
gabriel_jetroGood morning, jkollie, because only thomasboimah name you know here10:46
thomasboimahGood jkollie 10:47
svayeHow are you guys doing 10:47
jkolliegabriel_jetro: you are just picking on me this morning10:48
jkollieLOL10:48
gabriel_jetroMy bad...10:48
gabriel_jetrojust kidding10:48
jkollieIt's okay 10:49
gabriel_jetroI know right10:50
jelknerGood morning all!10:50
svayeGood morning jelkner 10:51
gabriel_jetroGood morning, jelkner10:51
thomasboimahGood morning jelkner 10:51
jelknergabriel_jetro, mulbah, thomasboimah, you rock!10:51
jkollieGood morning jelkner10:51
jelkneryou're only missing one thing now...10:51
jelknerdo you know what it is?10:51
mulbahGood morning jelkner10:51
jelknergood morning jkollie 10:51
thomasboimahNO please tell us jelkner 10:51
jelknerLOL, an INVOICE!!!!10:52
jelknercongratulations on your first successful client job!10:52
thomasboimahWill do that just wanted you to confirm everthing work10:52
jelknerlet's make this the first of MANY10:52
jelkneryes, best practice my friend, i know10:53
jelkneri did several tests this morning10:53
daniel__Good morning jelkner 10:53
jelknerand it all seems to work10:53
thomasboimahthat's good to know10:53
jelknerso, i think you should send an invoice, and then tell us that you are ready for your next job10:54
jelknerwe'll keep giving them to you if you can keep handling them10:54
thomasboimahOkay jelkner 10:54
gabriel_jetrookau10:54
gabriel_jetro*okay, jelkner10:54
jelknerbtw. svaye and daniel__, i just sent an email introducing you to Nairuti Shastry10:55
jelknerhttps://www.belovedeconomies.org/research-team-bios/nairuti-shastry10:55
jelknerwe are hoping she will be joining the board of SECOSOL10:55
jelknerwe have our meeting this Sunday10:56
svayeShould we attend the meeting jelkner?10:56
jelkneryou can't svaye 10:56
jelknerit's in person10:56
jelkneri just want to keep you updated10:56
daniel__Thanks for the introduction jelkner 10:57
svayeAlright jelkner I have a proposal for the team or we can call it an idea10:57
jelknerthe DNOVA Summit 2025 last weekend was *really* encouraging10:57
jelknergo for it svaye 10:57
daniel__And thanks for the update 10:57
jelknermore recent link for Nairuti: https://forgeorganizing.org/author/nairuti-shastry/10:58
svayeDaniel is studying bookkeeping and so am I, but in order to work effectively with SECOSOL we have to know both bookkeeping and Spanish 10:58
jelkneryes and no, but continue...10:59
svayeI would propose that I focus more on Spanish while daniel__ focus more on bookkeeping so that we can bring out results at a faster speed10:59
jelknerthat sounds great, svaye 10:59
jelknerlet me ask a few questions11:00
jelkner1st, what classes are you taking this term?11:00
svayeI realised that me trying to do both bookkeeping and Spanish and I have to do some school work is very stressful 11:00
jelknersvaye and daniel__ i mean11:00
daniel__For uopeople I am not11:00
jelkneryes, we don't want you to be stressed out11:00
jelknerdaniel__, why not?11:00
svayeI am not taking classes this term jelkner, I missed the registration 11:00
daniel__Due to debt , pass tuition 11:01
jelknerhmmm... didn't i send it to you?11:01
daniel__I registered but it was cancelled due to the fees I owed for the pass term11:01
daniel__No, jelkner 11:02
jelkneri'll look daniel__, but i recall (i admit i'm getting old and my mind is going ;-)11:02
jelknerthat you sent me your grades11:02
jelknerand i sent the next registration fee11:02
daniel__Yes, I did11:02
jelkneranyway, let's not get "lost in the weeds"11:03
jelknerwe need to move forward, not spend too much time looking back11:03
jelknerwe need to learn to plan effectively11:03
daniel__No, skip from your mind jelkner 11:03
daniel__Sure11:04
jelknerwhat i like most about what svaye just proposed is that she is starting to do that11:04
jelknerto "take ownership of the process" and think critically about how we organize our work to meet our goals11:04
svayeWe can take a leave of absence for this term like we did the last time and work more with Kei and Ved jelkner 11:04
jelknerthat may be a good idea svaye 11:05
jelknerfor two reasons:11:05
jelkner1. the classes you take in your business study are a bit theoretical, and we need *practice*, hands-on in the near term11:05
jelkner2. the classes will make a lot more sense when you have a bit more real world experience11:06
jelkneryou don't need University to learn bookkeeping11:06
jelkneror Spanish11:06
jelkneryou just need to study11:06
jelknerbesides, once you start earning income11:06
jelknerand you could earn real income if you learn bookkeeping11:06
jelkneryou will be able to resume your studies with less stress, like svaye was saying11:07
jelknerbut one potential issue you need to consider in your plan11:07
jelknerthe reason you need Spanish is that SECOSOL focuses on helping Latina women start worker coops11:08
jelknermany of the women don't speak English11:08
jelknerthat's why you need the Spanish11:08
jelknerbut you will be helping them with bookkeeping for their businesses11:09
jelknerso you need to know bookkeeping too11:09
jelknerthat's what you will be charging them for11:09
jelknerthe service you will provide is bookkeeping11:09
jelknerin Spanish11:09
jelknermake sense?11:09
svayeYes jelkner 11:09
jelknerso if you know Spanish, but not bookkeeping, you won't have what you need11:09
daniel__+111:09
jelknerso let's talk to Kei about all this11:10
jelknerand Freena needs to be in the conversation too11:10
gabriel_jetro+1 jelkner, they're working together to craft idea11:10
daniel__Okay 11:10
jelknerok, i'll let you work that out with Kei11:11
svayeI already know some things about bookkeeping so if I learn Spanish I can communicate effectively with them as it relates to bookkeeping while Daniel can focus more on doing the work jelkner 11:11
jelknerthat sounds great svaye 11:11
jelknerteam work11:11
gabriel_jetromake dream work11:11
daniel__Cool :-)11:12
jelknerLOL, YeS, gabriel_jetro 11:12
jelknerok, let's get this next iteration of the dream work going11:12
jelknerthomasboimah, gabriel_jetro, mulbah 11:12
jelkneri'm hoping you will learn to become the core dev group for NOVA Web over the next year11:12
jelknerso that when we get customers, YOU get customers11:13
jelknerthat's our plan11:13
jelknerright now, we need a bunch of things internally11:13
jelknerso we can be your first customer11:13
jelknerready for the next iteration?11:13
thomasboimah+111:13
jelknergreat11:13
gabriel_jetro+111:13
jelknerhere it is11:13
mulbah+111:14
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jelknerwe are still running a server with IREDMAIL that handles our .org domain11:14
jelknerwe want to take that down, but first, we need to make sure everything using .org is moved to May First, and really we just want it to forward to our .coop11:15
jelknerthat is a bigger job then fixing the DNS records, but it isn't too bad11:15
jelknerand it's in the same space, email configuration11:15
jelknercan you take on that task?11:15
gabriel_jetro+111:15
jelknergreat gabriel_jetro 11:16
jelkneri want to handle this a little differently11:16
jelknerhere is the first deliverable: a plan of work11:16
jelkneri want you to research the problem, and propose a solution11:16
jelknerthe work you do putting together the plan will be billable time11:17
jelknerbut i'll want to share your plan with experts i know so they can review it before we proceed11:17
mulbah+1 jeff11:17
mulbahwe can11:17
jelknergreat!11:18
jelknerplease get it to us by Thursday, May 8th11:18
jelknerso we can discuss it at our meeting that day11:18
jelknerok, i have to go11:19
jelknersee you later today11:19
gabriel_jetroOkay jelkner, my team will11:19
jelknerat our weekly work session11:19
svayeHave a wonderful day jelkner 11:19
gabriel_jetrosee you later today, jelkner11:20
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thomasboimahGood bye Guys11:20
svayeHave a nice day guys11:20
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cjoneshi! I'm here for the next ~90 minutes while our in-person Django class is meeting.15:36
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thomasboimahHI jelkner 18:54
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thomasboimahGreeting everyone19:01
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