IRC log of #jetrowebdev for Wednesday, 2025-05-28

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thomasboimahHi freena 10:37
mulbahGood morning to all10:40
freenaHi thomasboimah and mulbah 10:43
mulbahHi freena10:44
freenathomasboimah: and mulbah 10:47
mulbahyes10:48
jelknerGood morning mulbah thomasboimah and freena 10:52
thomasboimahGood morning jelkner 10:52
mulbahGood morning jeff10:52
jelkneris freena here?10:52
thomasboimah+110:53
freenaI'm here jelkner 10:53
freenaGood morning jelkner 10:53
jelknerGreat. Should we start our stand up meeting early?10:54
thomasboimahyeah, that way we will have more time10:54
freena+1 10:54
jelknerGreat.10:54
jelknerOk, I'm about to send the June 1st payment.10:55
jelkner$1000.0010:55
jelknerWe should talk about that.10:55
jelknerI also spoke with Mr. Zawolo immediately after our meeting yesterday10:55
jelknerand told him that there I things we need him to do that I can't do10:56
jelknerlike help guide freena in learning about the location for the Jetro Web office10:56
jelknerand thinking about how it fits into future economic development plans10:56
jelkneri told him freena said they hadn't talked since 5/1210:56
jelknerand he immediately sent her a message10:57
jelknerfreena, did you get to talk with him?10:57
freena+110:57
freenaYesterday and this morning as well10:58
jelknerExcellent!10:58
jelknerPlease keep us updated in these stand up meetings with your progress10:58
jelknerthat will be the idea10:58
freenaAlright 10:58
jelknerwe meet to keep each other informed about what we are working on10:58
jelknerso we can better coordinate our activity10:59
jelknerso we can "pull the cart in the same direction" as the saying goes ;-)10:59
jelknerfreena, i mentioned to Mr. Zawolo that we need an A plan and a B plan10:59
jelknerA plan is he comes to Liberia in August and helps you sign a lease while he is there.11:00
mulbahjeff I will send you the invoice of the work we did today11:00
jelknerIf something comes up and he can't go, we need a B plan, which will entail you at Jetro signing the lease on your own.11:00
jelknerGreat mulbah11:01
freenaYes jelkner, we talked about that this morning 11:01
jelknerwonderful, freena 11:01
jelknerthat is so good to hear11:01
jelknerplease communicate with him on a regular basis11:02
freena+111:02
jelknerok, what else?11:02
freenaI will like to share something with you jelkner 11:02
jelknergo for it!11:02
freenaIt's about what thomasboimah email you some time ago11:03
jelkneri get lots of wonderful emails from thomasboimah 11:04
jelkneryou'll have to remind me which one you are talking about ;-)11:04
freenaOkay let me give details 11:04
freenaAbout Jetro Web trying to make the cooperative known in Liberia too11:05
jelknerYes, I remember.  I was thrilled to see that email.11:06
jelknerSince it meant you are starting to think like business owners.11:06
freenaI think that it's about time we do that so that by the time we have our office space, we will start making headlines 11:06
jelknerTaking initiative, and forming long term business plans11:07
jelknerwhile i fully agree, freena 11:07
jelknerwe need to keep one thing in mind11:07
jelknerbefore you can market your services, you need to develop your product11:07
freena+111:08
jelknerwhat thomasboimah did with fixing NOVA Web's email system is a great start!11:08
jelkneryou handled a customer need, solved the customer's problem11:08
jelknerdelivered the goods!11:08
jelknerbut if your main product is web application development11:08
jelkneryou are not there yet11:09
jelkneri don't have confidence that i could come to jetro with a web application need11:09
jelknerthat you would be able to deliver it11:09
jelknernot yet11:09
jelknerso we need to focus on that, right?11:09
thomasboimahSure!11:10
mulbahI just send you it jeff11:10
jelknerthanks mulbah 11:10
freena+111:10
jelkneri'll get to it later11:10
jelknerso we should be focused on that11:10
jelknerand i think the best way to do that is have me be your customer during the summer11:11
jelknersince i have so many needs! ;-)11:11
jelknerand i'm friendly and patient (mostly patient, anyway ;-)11:11
freenaOkay jelkner 11:11
thomasboimahsure;-)11:11
jelknerso i'll be waiting to see what thomasboimah mulbah and gabriel_jetro can come up with for the cosmetology and culinary websites11:12
mulbahokay jeff11:12
gabriel_jetroOkay11:12
jelkneryou need to get to the point where you can do a much better job than cjone's students11:12
jelknersince they are in a beginner class on Django11:12
mulbahsure we can11:13
jelknerand you need to become pros11:13
jelkneri'm hoping next year you will be the mentors11:13
jelknerhelping teach our students next spring how to create Django applications11:13
jelknerwhen you can do that, you will have arrived11:13
jelknerthe best thing is that you have made huge progress learning how to learn in the tech space11:14
jelknerwhen i was there 3 summers ago, you were used to just being told what to do11:14
jelknernow you know you need to take ownership of your learning, and to use the vast resources online to direct your own learning11:15
jelknerreaching out for help when you need it11:15
jelknerbut mostly using what is already there11:15
jelknerit was a struggle somethings to get you there (right, mulbah? ;-)11:16
jelknerbut you did it!11:16
mulbahyes11:16
jelknerfreena, do you have more to say on this?11:16
jelkneror are we finished with the topic for today?11:16
freenaI don't have anything else to say jelkner 11:17
jelkneranyone else?11:17
thomasboimahACTION -111:17
jelknersame time and place tomorrow?11:17
gabriel_jetro+111:18
jelknerfreena?11:18
thomasboimah+111:18
freena+1 jelkner 11:18
jelknergreat, freena i have a request for you11:19
mulbahjeff will you add the invoice to what you are sending??11:19
jelknermulbah, not this month11:19
jelknerit's too late11:19
jelkneri just sent it11:19
jelknerlet's talk about that11:19
jelknertwo things:11:20
jelkner1. freena please ask Daniel to show to the meeting tomorrow11:20
freenaOkay jelkner 11:20
jelknerand ask him to prepare a short presentation of the Jetro budget with bank statement11:20
mulbahbut you promise gabriel_jetro and I this month11:20
jelknermulbah, what do you want me to do?11:20
jelkneri just sent the transfer11:20
jelknerhere is what i did:11:21
thomasboimahjelkner, Daniel plan to go for Jetro back statement Saturday11:21
thomasboimahSo by Monday he will send that to you11:21
thomasboimahI will be going with him11:21
jelkner1. I took this document: https://share.mayfirst.org/s/GgwsjrHgotqoKC911:22
jelknertake a look at it11:23
jelknerit has items listed (including the 1st invoice i have received) for $860.0011:23
jelkneri'll add a new sheet for the July transfer today11:24
jelknermulbah, there is a lot to learn here, so you need to try to learn quick!11:24
jelkneri have been making transfers on the 1st of each month11:24
jelkneri try to do things on time11:24
jelknerso to get it there by 6/111:25
jelkneri needed to do the transfer now11:25
jelknerand i did11:25
jelknerthere are 7 of you11:25
jelknerand you need to meet, discuss, and form a plan11:25
jelkneras long as i am the only source of revenue11:25
jelknerwe are limited11:25
jelkneri can't go above $1000 to perhaps $1100 a month11:26
jelkneri just don't earn enough to go higher11:26
jelknersimple as that11:26
jelknerso you need to focus on how best to survive on that amount until *YOU CAN DO BILLABLE WORK*!11:27
jelknerwhen you can, we can expand that amount by having other sources of revenue11:27
jelknerso the quicker you develop your professional skills11:27
jelknerthe sooner we can do that11:27
jelknermake sense mulbah?11:27
gabriel_jetro+111:28
mulbah+111:28
jelknergreat11:28
jelknerlet's meet again tomorrow and look at the Jetro bank balance11:28
jelknerand talk about immediate needs and plans11:28
jelknersound good?11:28
freena+111:29
thomasboimah+111:29
gabriel_jetro+111:29
thomasboimahjelkner, Daniel plan to go for Jetro back statement Saturday11:29
thomasboimahSo by Monday he will send that to you11:29
thomasboimahI will be going with him11:29
jelknerthanks thomasboimah 11:29
jelknergreat work11:29
jelknermanaging expectations is so important11:29
jelknerso we will have that discussion monday11:29
jelknernot tomorrow11:29
jelknertomorrow let's talk with Daniel about his skills development11:30
jelknerand svaye too, if she is available11:30
gabriel_jetroI'll inform her, jelkner 11:31
jelkneryou could be ready to charge for bookkeeping even sooner than web application development11:31
jelknersince it is less to learn to get started11:31
thomasboimahOkay11:31
jelknergreat.  i have to say, jetro friends, i *really* enjoy meeting with you!11:32
jelknerit feels like progress11:32
jelknerand that makes me feel good11:32
jelknersee you tomorrow11:32
freenaThanks jelkner 11:32
freenaSee you tomorrow 11:32
jelknerACTION signs off until 11:00 UTC tomorrow11:32
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gabriel_jetroBye jelkner 11:32
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