IRC log of #jetrowebdev for Thursday, 2025-05-29

thomasboimahHI daniel__ 10:36
daniel__How are you Thomas 10:40
jelknerGood morning thomasboimah, daniel__, and fkoikoi!10:50
thomasboimahGood morning jelkner 10:50
jelknerAre we waiting for anyone, or can we do our stand up meeting now?10:50
daniel__Good morning jelkner 10:51
fkoikoiGood morning jelkner 10:51
daniel__Let just give them five minutes 10:51
jelkner+110:51
daniel__Let's move on, anyone comes will read the log10:56
jelkner+110:57
jelknerok, who wants to start?10:57
daniel__Let me10:57
jelknergo for it, daniel__!10:57
fkoikoisvaye will be here in a minute 10:58
fkoikoioh she's here now10:58
jelknerlol10:58
jelkneryes, i noticed that10:58
daniel__Firstly I want to apologise for not being turning up these few days 10:58
svayeGood morning everyone 10:58
jelknerwe love to have you, daniel__, but until we can afford to pay you, you are not required to attend10:59
jelkneronly thomasboimah and fkoikoi are for now10:59
jelknerbut we will be watching who shows10:59
daniel__And yesterday I communicated with tboimah he told me that you want to meet with me10:59
jelknerso that when we have more resources, we can reward the most dedicated10:59
jelkneryes, daniel__ 10:59
jelknermonday10:59
jelknerlook at the log from yesterday11:00
jelkneri said today11:00
daniel__Okay 11:00
jelknerbut thomasboimah told me that you won't have the bank statement until saturday11:00
jelknerso we changed it to monday11:00
jelkneranything else?11:00
jelknerthese stand up meetings need to move fast11:01
daniel__Saturday,  you will get it before the meeting if there is any meeting 11:01
jelknerthey are often called 10 minute meetings11:01
jelknergreat, daniel__ 11:01
jelkneranything else?11:01
fkoikoi-1 for me jelkner11:01
jelknerthomasboimah?11:02
thomasboimah+111:02
jelknergo for it11:02
thomasboimahsorry -111:02
jelknerlol11:02
thomasboimahNot for me 11:02
jelknerok, i have something then11:02
jelknerand i hope you all will start having more too11:02
jelkneri leave for central america on 6/1811:02
jelknerand return on 7/711:03
jelknerbetween those times, i will find it difficult to make our stand up meetings11:03
jelknerso email will probably have to be you main channel to reach me11:03
gabriel_jetroOk11:04
svayeAlright 11:04
jelknerso let's use each weekday between now and 6/18 to continue to develop our professional processes11:04
jelknerincluding the stand up meeting11:04
daniel__But will there be meeting on Saturday?11:04
jelknerhere is a nice short article we should all read:11:04
jelknerhttps://asana.com/uses/kanban-boards11:05
jelknerops11:05
jelknerwrong one11:05
jelknerhttps://asana.com/resources/stand-up-meeting11:05
jelknerdaniel__, what would be our agenda for a saturday meeting?11:05
jelkneri think we should cancel it, and focus on getting WORK done!11:06
fkoikoijelkner11:06
jelknertoo many meetings, not enough work :-(11:06
jelknerfkoikoi, 11:06
jelknerthomasboimah, each day in the stand up meeting11:06
daniel__Maybe your discussed the project you mentioned the last time11:07
daniel__Because I was not showing up11:07
jelkneryou should tell us *briefly*:11:07
jelkner1. what you did yesterday11:07
jelkner2. what you plan to do today11:07
daniel__So I don't know if we can discuss that11:07
jelkner3. any blockers that we could help you with11:07
fkoikoii thought we were going to discussion our business plans this Saturday11:07
thomasboimahOkay11:07
fkoikoiwith Kei, Daniel and svaye around 11:08
jelknerfkoikoi, do you have anything prepared?11:08
jelknerif you do, i want to show up and see it11:08
jelknerif you don't, please don't waste my time11:08
jelknerbtw. thomasboimah, i was delighted when you mentioned that y'all have been discussing doing business in Liberia11:08
jelknerpreviously i mentioned a podcast i listed to each week11:09
jelknerThe China in Africa Podcast11:09
fkoikoiokay jelkner, let me speak with kei first 11:09
jelknerfkoikoi, when you speak with kei11:10
jelknerencourage her to make stand up meetings11:10
jelknerwe need to begin professionalizing our work11:10
jelknerif she wants to lead, she needs to be here11:11
jelknerif not, we move ahead with whomever shows up11:11
fkoikoiokay jelkner11:11
jelknerthomasboimah, they have a new podcast from the same organization11:11
jelknerall about EVs11:11
svayefkoikoi: you can speak with kei today at 2pm, because we have a session 11:11
jelkneri listed to that now too11:11
fkoikoisure11:11
thomasboimahI will check that up11:12
jelknerEVs are coming to Africa in a *big way*!11:12
fkoikoii will be here svaye11:12
jelknerhttps://chinaglobalsouth.com/podcasts/chinese-evs-in-africa-mobility-transformation-podcast/11:12
jelknerso, by tomorrow, please read11:12
jelknerhttps://asana.com/resources/stand-up-meeting11:13
jelknerand start to think about how you participate in our stand up meetings11:13
jelknerlet's learn to do this effectively11:13
jelknerthomasboimah, one more thing11:13
jelkneryou need a Django development plan, right?11:13
thomasboimahYeah11:14
jelknerthere are so many different projects you can work on11:14
jelknerYOU need to pick a few of them11:14
jelknerand start working11:14
jelkneryou should report in our stand up meeting things like:11:14
jelknerYesterday i worked on the culinary system11:15
jelkneri added sign on functionality11:15
jelknertoday i plan to work on the front page11:15
jelknerand stuff like that11:15
jelknertell us what you are doing11:15
jelknerwhen others see what you are doing11:15
jelknerthey will be inspired11:15
thomasboimahOKay11:16
jelkneri'm looking forward to the days when you WOW me with your progress11:16
daniel__Okay 11:16
daniel__Thanks 11:16
jelknerthere are so many paths to learning Django11:16
jelkneryou pick11:16
jelknertake ownership11:16
jelkneri keep coming up with ideas11:16
jelknerbut don't wait for me11:16
jelknerhave your own ideas11:16
jelknerhere is one more i just looked at now11:16
jelknerin reading the article on stand up meetings, it mentions kanban boards11:17
jelkneri thought: i bet there are already lots of Django kanban board projects out there, let me see if i can find a good one that uses the tech we are trying to learn11:18
jelknersure enough, in about a minute, i found one:11:18
jelknerhttps://github.com/bdelate/kanban11:18
jelknerit uses Restful Django on the backend, and React on the front end11:18
jelknerSahnun is trying to get us to use React11:18
jelknerhe is teaching Blu11:19
jelkneri didn't do a deep dive on this11:19
jelknerbut it is an example of what you can do11:19
jelknerlearn by looking at what others have done11:19
jelknerin time, we will refine our practice11:19
jelknerimprove it, develop best practices11:19
jelknerbut for now, just doing SOMETHING is a start!11:20
jelkneryou can learn to code without coding11:20
jelknerok, i need to go11:20
jelknersee you tomorrow at the same time and place11:20
thomasboimahI Will start on the culinary system project, and start long for some opensource project i can contribute to11:20
thomasboimah*looking11:20
daniel__Okay you too11:20
jelknerexcellent thomasboimah!11:20
jelknerthat's the spirit!! ;-)11:20
jelknerACTION signs off until tomorrow at 11:00 UTC11:21
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daniel__thomasboimah: 11:21
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thomasboimahyes daniel__ 11:21
daniel__Please let go for the statement sooner on Saturday 11:21
gabriel_jetrothomasboimah: 11:22
thomasboimahOkay daniel__ 11:22
thomasboimahyes gabriel_jetro 11:22
daniel__Okay see you tomorrow then11:22
thomasboimahOkay bro11:22
thomasboimahbye guys11:23
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gabriel_jetroYou're up front on this project so you choose what next me and 11:23
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gabriel_jetroMulbah 11:23
thomasboimahgabriel_jetro, It will be best if you think about any django project that you can start working on while learning11:24
thomasboimahSo that when time come Jeff ask what you have been working on you have something to show11:25
gabriel_jetroBut I guess it relates to the culinary website 11:25
thomasboimahI don't think is only restrated to the culinary website you can choose any project to work on11:26
thomasboimahBut the culinary website is also one11:27
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freenasvaye: 14:04
svayeHi freena 14:05
svayeKei is not here yet14:05
freenaHow are you??14:05
svayeI am okay14:05
svayeHow are you doing 14:05
klarioshi svaye !14:08
klariossorry I am a bit late14:08
klariosmy computer was updating14:08
svayeHow are you klarios 14:08
svayeIt's okay 14:08
klariosI am well thank you14:08
klariosHow about you?14:08
svayeI am okay14:09
klariosthats good +114:09
klariosalright so today will be about checking in with you on the assignments for the oral immersion 14:09
klariossince it was your first time doing them I wanted to see if you were able to complete them 14:10
klarioshttps://decidim.novawebdevelopment.org/assemblies/LearnSpanish/f/108/posts/4514:11
klariosfor the first day homework you had to record yourself pronouncing:  CH, H, B-V, G-J, y la ERRE o r.14:12
klariosand the vowels14:12
svayeI've been listening to the pronunciation of the alphabet, but I've not really been consistent because I had alot of a assignment to do before final, which will start on the 9th of June14:12
klariosahh I see. perphaps we can break this down a bit so that its easier14:13
klariosit would be a good idea to start with learning the pronunciation of the vowels14:13
klariosif you see the homework week 3 post, you will also see that I have "how to pronounce" letter guides14:14
svayeYeah14:14
klariosfor example E for Elefante --> eh-leh-FAHN-teh14:15
freenaHi klarios 14:16
klariosand no worries, oral immersion takes long even in everyday classes. The process of you learning to pronounce the alphabet will take around 2-3 weeks14:16
klarioshi freena ! nice to have you here14:16
freenaCan we talk before or after the meeting today??14:17
klariosso svaye for today you homework is to start with vowels: A, E, I, O, U 14:17
klariossure freena we can have a meeting right after class14:17
svayeShould I record myself on the telegram klarios?14:17
klarioslearn the pronunciations either through a guide or the video that I linked14:17
freenaAlright, See you then 14:18
klariosyou can either record while watching the video or record after the video. Whatever makes it easier to memorize the pronunciation14:18
klariossure freena !14:18
klarioshttps://youtu.be/2-rYnUapWqk14:18
klariosthat's the video for the vowels14:19
klariosthe examples I have in the homework are: Avion, Elefante, Isla, Oso, Uvas14:19
klariosdo you think you will be able to record yourself pronouncing those today svaye ?14:20
svayeYes 14:20
klariosalso you don't have to show your face or anything! voice is enough 14:21
svayeI will send it on telegram 14:21
klariosgreat! so next class we will tackle 5 more words and if we have time we will add more and more words to the homework 14:21
klariosdoes that sound like a plan?14:21
svayeThat's a great plan 14:22
klariosalright. So for more context of what tuesday will look like. The recording should already be completed, you don't have to turn in a result on tuesday, you will turn in a result when we are done with the alphabet 14:23
svayeAlright 14:24
klariosand for the rest of the class today, I don't want to assign more things to you, so you are free to work on pronouncing/ practicing the vowels14:24
klariosif you are done before class ends let me know! I will stay on the channel to answer any questions you may have14:25
svayeI can't do the pronunciation now because of my environment, when I get home after my last class I will do it.14:26
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klariosno worries you can practice now and pronounce later14:39
svayeAlright 14:42
klariosalright tae the time to practice while i meet with freena 14:44
klariosnow would be a good time to meet freena 14:44
svayeAlright 14:44
svayeHave a wonderful day klarios. Adiós 14:44
klariosadios !! que le vaya bien 14:45
klariosfreena: I took a look at the logs today and I agree with what jelkner said 14:45
klariosI think we should meet regularly at least once or twice a week to plan around the internal and external projects that are due14:46
klariosand also for our future business plans as it regards web development, software as a services, or other services we may want to offer14:46
klariosin terms of the business plan. We can't present it on saturday because we do not have an idea yet of how much web or software development the development team can do. 14:48
klarioswhen it comes to servicing costumers there are many factors or things that will be new for the development team and they will have to learn to navigate through that efficiently and correctly to satisfy our costumer 14:49
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klariosI am confident in their ability to perform web development work and using git, but I am not sure if they are ready for software development or high-end web development 14:50
klarioswe've got to plan around our projects as well. Since they are learning django, there is no reason for them to learn ruby but we would want them to know how to use it to help us deploy it, customize it, and maintain it if we decide that decidim is our product for business. 14:52
klariosin terms of market research and product availability, decidim seems to be the better choice for American software developers to survive, but for liberia software developers it can be making sites for cooperatives or the solidarity economy14:54
klariosfreena: are you here?14:54
klarioswhat do you think?14:55
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