IRC log of #jetrowebdev for Wednesday, 2025-07-23

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dcammueGood morning jelkner 12:22
svayeGood morning jelkner 12:22
dcammuegood afternoon svaye 12:22
svayeGood afternoon dcammue 12:22
jelknerGood afternoon svaye and dcammue 12:25
dcammueyes jelkner, how are you?12:26
svayeHow are you jelkner ?12:26
jelknerhow did it go with connecting to our financial databases from gnucash?12:26
dcammueI tried but i got the same lock message12:27
jelknerafter our stand up meeting, let's talk about having you two do that with the jetroweb database today12:27
dcammueso maybe i can try now or later12:27
svayeI had the wrong gnucash installed so thomasboimah and I couldn't connect yesterday, but I have the right one now. Thomasboimah and I will try connecting today jelkner 12:27
jelknerdcammue, this is a problem we need to solve, so STAY ON IT!12:27
dcammueokay12:27
thomasboimahGood morning jelkner and klarios. Good afternoon jetro folks12:27
dcammueokay12:28
svayeGood morning klarios, how are you feeling now?12:28
dcammuegood afternoon thomasboimah 12:28
svayeGood afternoon thomasboimah, I downloaded the right gnucash yesterday and it has postgres, do you think we can try connecting today?12:28
klariosGood morning thomasboimah and svaye. I am feeling a bit better, but still with discomfort 12:28
dcammuehmmmm, sorry to hear that klarios 12:29
dcammuewish you speedy recovery12:29
klariosthat's alright I am getting better thank you dcammue 12:29
klariosI saw the logs yesterday, we've got a lot to do 12:29
jelknerYesterday i spent most of the afternoon watching the documentary on Yanis Varoufakis (*very* interesting). Today i'll be visiting with old friends. No blockers.12:30
jelknerACTION done12:30
jelknerYes indeed klarios!12:30
thomasboimahYesterday, I was able to email Ms. Scholl with guidance on how to get her domain name. I also did some reading on the Django documentation. Today, I plan to read the article on user stories (https://www.atlassian.com/agile/project-management/user-stories) that was linked in the ToDo app repository. I have no blockers.12:30
thomasboimahACTION done12:30
jkollieGood morning jelkner and klarios12:30
thomasboimahbtw Klarios, yesterday I login into Nova web bitwarden account but I notice that the credential for all of our server running on Linode was deleted, did you know anything about that?12:30
jelknerPlease follow thomasboimah's lead everyone!12:31
klariosToday I have a meeting with Jason from maryland latin caucus. thomasboimah our first task will be to migrate the site to their own linode server. 12:31
klariosNo i didnt notice, thats weird thomasboimah 12:31
thomasboimahyes12:31
dcammueyesterday, I did a skills practice on gnucash and today, I will continue, and also do some html and css, and django practice 12:31
jelknerPost your.. i did, today i will instead of chit chat during the meeting12:31
thomasboimahit is really bad klarios 12:31
dcammueACTION done12:31
jkollieI want to apologize for not being online yesterday, I had a lot to do for my Father all day12:31
jkollieand I wasn't able to do my personal work and study. 12:31
klariosI have the credentials saved, I will add them no worries thomasboimah 12:31
jkollieToday I'll do an overview of my study with Decidim and also go through the Map and HTML project with gitlab and vs code12:32
jkollieACTION done12:32
thomasboimahOKay klarios that will be great! thanks.12:32
svayeYesterday I downloaded the right gnucash, figured I had the wrong one. I also had a meeting with klarios where we created a codeberg account to document what we learn as business manager.  Today thomasboimah will help me connect to the financial database on gnucash. No blockers12:32
svayeACTION done12:32
mulbahGood morning and afternoon everyone 12:32
klariosyesterday me and svaye started our documentation for business management. Our first topic is nextcloud. This friday I want to introduce her to MD Latino Caucus 12:33
klariosjelkner: any updates on the sales tax exemption?12:33
klariosACTION done12:33
thomasboimahjkollie, our current bill on linode for the month is $88.32 and today is 07/23/25 is I think our total bill for this month will not reach $13712:34
thomasboimah* jelkner 12:34
jelkneri'll need to spend a day on the phone with Virginia SCC, klarios, so it will have to wait until next week.12:34
thomasboimahI mean not jkollie 12:34
mulbahI have been feeling well I have been on three day injection and today will be the last day but I have been working on the mock-up of the todo app using frigma and try to complete it today here is the link https://www.figma.com/design/mJMpfgWhiwISQPvfdpg9OU/To-do-List-Web-App-Design--Community-?node-id=351-775&m=dev&t=Bp0OXM3iAc02ZiMN-1 12:34
mulbahACTION done12:34
klariosgot it jelkner 12:35
jelknerthat's great news thomasboimah 12:35
jelknerare we finished with the stand up meeting?12:35
jelkneranyone not report?12:35
klariosjkollie: are we set to meet tomorrow for some decidim updates?12:35
jkolliesure lets meet12:36
svayeDid everyone see freena message this morning?12:36
klariosgreat! right after the stand up meeting12:36
jelknerklarios, let me have a few minutes with everyone first12:36
jkollieokay klarios12:37
klarios+1 jelkner 12:37
jelknerhearing nothing, stand up meeting is over12:37
jelknerok, i want to check-in with thomasboimah and svaye about the immediate tasks we need to address12:38
jelknerto make it as businesses, we desperately need to learn to manage money12:38
jelknerwe are focusing on that now12:38
jelknersvaye and dcammue, we need to make steady progress on this gnucash process until it is automatic for us12:39
dcammue+112:39
jelknerthomasboimah, they will need your help for that12:39
jelknerand you need to cooradinate12:40
jelknerto do experiments with the lock files until you get a feel for how it works12:40
jelknerfreena, long time no see!12:40
jelknerthomasboimah, we also need to make progress on our software development skills12:40
jelknergabriel isn't here today12:40
jelknerit is so hard to plan when you don't know who is going to show when12:41
jelkneryou just can't plan12:41
jelknerand when you can't plan, you can't serve customers12:41
jkollieyep12:41
jelknerand you can't run a business12:41
tboimahsure!12:41
mulbahJeff did you see the mock-up of the ToDo app 12:41
jelknerfor right now, since i can only afford to support two full time workers12:42
jelknermost of the burden will fall on tboimah and svaye 12:42
jelknerthey have to make it happen12:42
jelknertboimah and svaye, you will need to learn to manage the rest of your team12:42
jelknerto assign tasks to others who are taking a long term view and willing to sacrifice to learn12:43
freenahttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/BrXfYOEq12:43
jelknerbut if they don't step up, you have to!12:43
jelknergot it freena 12:43
jelknerfreena, for the survival of Jetro, we need svaye to take the paid spot for now12:44
jelknersince we won't make it unless we have a full time person doing what needs to be done12:44
jelknerok, back to the tasks12:45
jelknertboimah, if gabriel isn't going to write the ToDo app12:45
jelkneryou will have to12:45
jelkneragain, you're the paid staff person12:45
jelkneri talked to cjones about this yesterday12:45
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jelknerwe need to get into a predictable development cycle12:45
jelknerwhere user stories are being addressed in a predictable amount of time12:46
jelknersvaye and dcammue, there is another database cjones setup named jetroweb12:47
dcammueokay12:47
jelknerwith thomasboimah's help, you need to get to the point this week where you are comfortable connecting to both the sjcompute and jetroweb databases from gnucash12:47
jelkneri'll maintain the sjcompute records12:47
jelknerso you can just watch that one12:48
mulbahJeff are we the one writing the user story for the ToDo app or you??12:48
jelknerbut YOU will be responsible for updating the jetroweb recrords12:48
jelknermulbah, please ask thomasboimah 12:48
jelknerhe is your "lead developer"12:48
jelknerso information should flow through him12:49
dcammueso the credentials will be given to thomasboimah right? for jetroweb12:49
thomasboimahI already have it dcammue 12:49
dcammueokay12:49
thomasboimahjelkner, give that to me yesterday12:49
jelkner+112:49
svayeThat means we can connect to both today, right thomasboimah ?12:50
jelknersvaye, you can switch back and forth between them12:50
thomasboimahsvaye, i only have the credential for jetroweb12:50
jelknersvaye, ask dcammue about how to first setup accounts12:50
jelknerwhen you connect the first time, gnucash gives you a "setup dialog" that let's you choose how you want to set up the accounts12:51
jelkneri did that for sjcompute12:51
jelknerbut i'm not going to touch the jetroweb one12:51
jelknerthat's YOUR baby! ;-)12:51
jelkneri will want to watch12:52
jelknermy goal is for you to have this running smoothly be the end of next week at the latest12:52
jelknersince we need to plan12:52
svayeAlright jelkner, I found a video in our chat on how to set up accounts, Devesh sent it.12:52
jelknerperfect12:52
jelknersvaye, please coordinate with dcammue 12:53
svayeThere are other videos, I will study then this week.12:53
jelknerhe has been putting in time on gnucash12:53
svayeAlright jelkner 12:53
jelknerso you should be communicate regularly with him12:53
klariosgreat svaye . dcammue thomasboimah should we have a separate meeting to help us set up accounts?12:53
jelknerto learn from each other12:53
klariossvaye: 12:53
svayeYes klarios 12:53
jelknerdcammue, see if thomasboimah can help you figure out what is going on with the lock file12:54
klarioswill you be setting up today?12:54
jelknerklarios, there is a novaweb database too12:54
jelknercjones set up 4 databases12:54
klariosoooh niceee12:54
svayeYes klarios, I want to set up today12:54
klariosI will mail cjones then 12:54
klariosemail*12:54
jelknersecosol, sjcompute, jetroweb, and novaweb12:54
jelknerno need klarios 12:55
jelknerthey are already set up12:55
jelknerwhat do you need?12:55
klariosjust to connect to them I guess12:55
jelknerah12:55
klariosIs all the info in bitwarden?12:55
klariosI made a developer's account 12:55
jelknerthomasboimah, all four databases have the same user and password12:55
klariosahhh 12:55
jelknerwe are going to just share that for now12:55
thomasboimahAhhh okay12:55
jelknerso we need to be DISCIPLINED!12:56
jelknerthis is all about learning to coordinate our activity effectively12:56
jelknersince we all have access to all the databases12:57
jelknerwe need to coordinate who is responsible for doing what when12:57
jelknerthat's our challenge12:57
jelknerlet's figure this out12:57
jelknerklarios, do you have time to talk on the phone this morning?12:58
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jelknerthomasboimah, are you clear on your tasks?12:58
jelknera lot is riding on you, my dear friend12:58
klariosyes jelkner 12:58
jelknerwe need to move this forward12:58
jelknersvaye, are you clear on your tasks?12:58
jelknerand i have a question svaye 12:59
svayeYes12:59
jelknerwhat do you mean by "wrong version of gnucash"?12:59
jelknerhow do you know you had the "wrong version"?12:59
jelknerwhat does that mean?12:59
svayeYeah I installed the wrong version that doesn't have postgres 12:59
jelknerahh12:59
jelkneri learned about that13:00
svayeI have the version that had postgres now13:00
jelkneri talked to cjones about it, but thomasboimah, let me explain to you13:00
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jelknerif you install gnucash from a debian package, you won't see any sql connections in the file menu13:00
dcammuei think cjones made mention of how to install the right version with flash13:00
jelknerthat *is not* because you have the wrong version of gnucash13:01
dcammuei will help with that if needed svaye 13:01
jelknerit is because you are missing another required debain package - the database connector13:01
thomasboimahSorry my internet trip13:01
jelknerwhen you install that, and restart gnucash, you will see the database appear under the file menu13:02
svayeThanks dcammue I downloaded it yesterday. 13:02
jelkner has set topic to: https://codeberg.org/jelkner/SolidarityEconomyNotes/src/branch/main/FinancialAccounting/03_gnucash.md13:03
jelkneri am documenting what i am learning about gnucash here: 13:03
jelkner has set topic to: https://codeberg.org/jelkner/SolidarityEconomyNoteshttps://codeberg.org/jelkner/SolidarityEconomyNotes/src/branch/main/FinancialAccounting/03_gnucash.md/src/branch/main/FinancialAccounting/03_gnucash.md13:03
jelkneroops13:03
jelknerhttps://codeberg.org/jelkner/SolidarityEconomyNotes/src/branch/main/FinancialAccounting/03_gnucash.md13:03
jelknerthat is the link to my documentation13:03
jelknerthomasboimah, it will be helpful if you understand this13:03
thomasboimahyeah13:03
thomasboimahI will read that today13:04
thomasboimahAnd make more research if necessary13:04
jelkneri just updated it13:06
jelknerthe debian package you need to support postgres is libdbd-pgsql 13:06
jelknerwhen you install that, gnucash will find the db connectoor on launch, and the database connector will be an option in the file menu13:07
jelkneralright, that's all i have for today13:08
jelknera lot to do folks13:08
jelknerlet's check-in again tomorrow13:08
thomasboimahOkay13:08
jelkneranything else for me before i go?13:08
jelknerokie dokie13:10
thomasboimahsvaye, and dcammue 13:10
jelknersee you tomorrow then...13:10
klariosthomasboimah: the linode info is in bitwarden 13:10
jelknerACTION logs off until tomorrow13:10
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klariosalso thomasboimah can you add the database login into bitwarden?13:10
svayeYes thomasboimah 13:10
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thomasboimahI did that already klarios 13:11
dcammuethomasboimah, 13:11
klariosgreat! thank you !13:11
thomasboimahsvaye, and dcammue my machine in off i am using my phone i will call you guys when current come to my area 13:12
thomasboimah*is13:12
dcammueplease private me the jetroweb gnucash db credentials13:12
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thomasboimahdcammue will do that when my computer charge today please13:12
svayethomasboimah: can you send the user and password for the jetroweb gnucash database?13:13
dcammueokay13:13
klariosHi anthony_p ! 13:13
klariosthomasboimah: 13:13
dcammuehe said when his computer charge13:13
klariosI am heading out for now13:14
klariosdid Ms. Scholl get back to you?13:14
klariosshe hasnt gotten back to me 13:14
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thomasboimahyes klarios 13:15
klarioscan you forward it to me? I haven't seen a response from her coworker who was supposed to meet with me last week 13:15
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thomasboimahOkay will do that today klarios but i think the website is done now. she only need to buy her domain name13:16
klariosyeah I think so too. That's the only task on our agenda13:17
thomasboimahOnce my computer is done i will forward all our conversation to you13:17
thomasboimahWe i say done I mean charge13:17
klariosthank you! I will be heaving out now13:17
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klarioshave a good day yall!13:18
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