IRC log of #jetrowebdev for Friday, 2025-07-25

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dcammueGood afternoon mulbah 12:18
mulbahGood afternoon dcammue  12:18
thomasboimahGood afternoon dcammue anthony_p and mulbah 12:24
svayeGood afternoon thomasboimah dcammue mulbah 12:25
svayeGood morning cjones Klarios 12:25
svayedcammue: 12:25
thomasboimahGoof afternoon svaye 12:25
Klarioshi svaye !12:25
svayethomasboimah: I can't connect to the databases 12:25
svayeHow are you feeling now Klarios ?12:26
svayeGood morning jelkner 12:26
thomasboimahsvaye, i thought you said that you was able to connect12:26
jelknerGood Day all!12:26
dcammueGood afternoon to all12:26
thomasboimahWhat is the problem again??12:26
thomasboimahGood morning jelkner 12:26
KlariosI am doing doing better svaye thank you! also I wanted to let you know I won't be able to meet with you today because I have to be picked up to do a couple of things for secosol 12:27
KlariosLets reschedule12:27
svayethomasboimah: I don't know, I tried connecting this morning but it's not going through 12:27
svayeKlarios: we can meet tomorrow 12:28
KlariosSure! However I probably can't meet in the morning. How about 12 PM my time 4Pm your time?12:28
svayeKlarios: that's okay for me tomorrow is a holiday I will be home the entire day.12:29
jelknerYesterday i entered all 2025 financial transactions for SJC into GnuCash. Today i'll focus on where GnuCash stores meta data, so i can easily switch among the 4 databases we will be using. No blockers.12:30
jelknerACTION done12:30
Klariosahh that's great!12:30
thomasboimahBefore I give my update, I would like to kindly ask the team to please accept my absence for the Monday standup meeting. I will be traveling to Grand Cape Mount County to visit my mom, who is not feeling well. I plan to return Monday evening, so I won’t be able to attend the standup but will resume on Tuesday.12:30
Klariosyesterday I met with the Secosol presidents to fill out their grant application, we are blocking on one item: Articles of incorporation12:30
thomasboimahYesterday, I spent time responding to questions from the Upsilon Chapter Officers concerning their website via email. I also took some time to read the Django documentation and communicated with Mulbah regarding the Todo app. I tried to reach Gabriel to ask about the issue he is working on, to check how things are going or if there are any blockers, but I was unable to get in touch with him.12:31
jelknerthanks for letting us know, thomasboimah, we all wish your mom good health12:31
KlariosToday I will head over to fredericksburg to help them purchase their devices etc. 12:31
thomasboimahToday, I will begin my University of the People assignments and plan to complete them after I return from Grand Cape Mount County. I also plan to maintain regular communication with Mulbah and Gabriel regarding the Todo app project. No blocker.12:31
thomasboimahACTION done12:31
svayeYesterday I texted Mr Zawolo and he responded this morning. jelkner he said he would give you a call. This morning dcammue helped me do the payment for Uopeople, I didn't register because registration starts tomorrow, my blocker is not being able to connect to the databases this morning, I will keep trying though. 12:32
svayeACTION done12:32
mulbahYesterday I pull the work Gabriel push and was working of making the url to point to the login in page I email cjones to give me access to the server he side we are not ready for production yet so no need to clone the code o the server and point the url to the login page12:32
mulbahACTION done12:33
jelknerwe need to figure out why svaye 12:33
cjonesyep mulbah - i'm here to discuss that!12:33
svayejelkner: did Mr Zawolo give you a call?12:33
mulbahokay12:33
jelknerno svaye 12:33
svayeThis morning he texted me and said he will give you a call.12:34
jelknerok, i'll try him after our meeting12:34
svayeAlright 12:35
dcammueyesterdady, i made so practice on gnucash and today, i am setting up the jetroweb account12:35
gabriel_jetroYesterday I was working on the PR's wish I hadn't tested because we had an electricity problem, so far there's a blocker for now.12:35
gabriel_jetroACTION done 12:35
dcammueACTION done12:35
svayedcammue: where you able to connect to the database this morning?12:35
dcammue+112:36
dcammuewhat are you seeing 12:36
svayeWith the same password?12:36
dcammuewhen you are trying to connect?12:36
jelknerlet's finish the stand up first dcammue 12:36
jelknerand then break off into work12:36
dcammueyou get message?12:36
dcammueokay12:36
jelknerKlarios?12:37
mulbahcjones can you start12:37
Klariossorry jelkner 12:37
KlariosI was emailing someone back12:37
KlariosACTION done12:38
jelknerok, i'll declare the stand up meeting over, but i want to talk about it12:39
jelknerwhat is the purpose of the stand up meeting?12:39
thomasboimahTo know what we all have been doing12:39
jelkner+112:39
svayedcammue: when I try connecting it says either host, username or password is incorrect 12:39
jelknerwhy is that important, thomasboimah 12:40
jelknersvaye, please focus on our current discussion12:40
gabriel_jetroMy phone battery is down, and my phone will soon go off.12:40
thomasboimahSo that we can know were is the blocker for the coop to move forward12:40
jelknernice12:40
jelkneri would add that it is essential to be able to coordinate our different activities together effectively12:41
jelknerthat we have a "broad view" of how what we are doing fits in with the overall work of the group12:41
jelknertoday's meeting was a bit sloopy12:41
jelknernot so good12:41
jelkneri'm going to keep using the football analogy12:42
jelknersince in know Liberia is a country where football is prized12:42
jelknerimagine you are a scout looking for a talented team to add to you new league12:42
jelkneryou sneak in and watch them practice12:42
jelknertoday, you see Jetro players running all over the place12:43
jelknerlooking like they don't know where they are going12:43
jelknerbumping into each other12:43
jelkneris that the team you would pick?12:43
jelkneri don't think so! ;-)12:43
dcammueokay, svaye12:43
jelknerwe want to get this to work like a well oiled machine12:43
jelknerdcammue, LISTEN PLEASE!12:44
jelknerfor just 10 minutes each morning12:44
jelknerFOCUS12:44
dcammuethe issue is either from the password 12:44
jelknerdon't email12:44
jelknerdon't engage in side conversations12:44
jelknerjust briefly list your work yesterday and today along with blockers12:44
jelknerand read attentively and thoughfully what your comrades are writing12:45
jelknerdoes that make sense?12:45
Klarios+1 12:45
thomasboimah+112:45
gabriel_jetro+112:45
svaye+112:45
jelknersuper, let's strive to do that12:45
jelkneri hope we do better on monday12:45
jelknerok, now that we are done with that12:46
jelknerwe can move on to our work12:46
jelknerdcammue and svaye, we need to figure out why svaye is having trouble connecting12:46
jelknerthomasboimah, i like what i'm seeing develop with the dev team12:46
mulbahJeff when you will add issue 12:47
dcammueit will be the password i strongly guess12:47
jelknerbut we must learn to anticipate problems like "my battery is about to die"12:47
jelknerso we don't have to deal with that all the time12:47
mulbahI mean more issue12:47
jelknersvaye, the Jetro office will be crucial for this12:47
jelkneri have been talking with Klarios about this a lot12:47
jelkneri feel torn12:47
jelknernot sure if we are making the best use of our resources12:47
jelknerbut i think we need to take a chance and get the office now12:48
jelknereven if we aren't fully ready for it12:48
jelknersince not having it is holding us back12:48
jelknerwe want that office to have very reliable electricity and unlimited bandwidth12:48
jelknerso you can focus on work, and not on the infrastructure you need to do your work12:49
jelknerwhich should become practically "invisible" because it "just works"12:49
jelknerdoes that make sense?12:50
jelknerthoughts?12:50
thomasboimah+112:50
jelknerthoughts?12:51
gabriel_jetro-112:51
thomasboimah-112:51
jelknerdo explain gabriel_jetro 12:51
jelknerit makes it really hard on me when you don't have any thoughts12:51
gabriel_jetro??12:51
jelknersince that means all the responsibility falls on me12:51
jelknerinstead of being shared12:51
svayeThat's a great jelkner, we will have to get in touch with freena and view our options, and it might take some time12:52
jelkneri am dreaming of the day we figure this out together12:52
jelknerso i don't have to do everything myself :-(12:52
gabriel_jetro+112:52
jelknersvaye, speaking of that, how is freena?12:52
jelknerlet's take a quick look at the updated spreadsheet i worked on yesterday12:53
gabriel_jetroShe did mention in her email that she's facing family issues with her dad's health, jelkner 12:53
svayeI haven't heard from her, I will give her a call to know if she's back in town.12:53
jelknerhttps://share.mayfirst.org/s/GgwsjrHgotqoKC912:54
jelknercan y'all see this?12:54
jelknerlet's all look together12:55
jelknerdiscussing this will help us all take ownership of our process12:55
jelknersvaye dcammue, what did you find out about checks?12:55
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jelknerwhen we work on GnuCash later, you'll see we have "wasted" $250 this year so far in wire transfer fees12:56
jelknerthat's a month's salary for a teacher in MCS!12:56
jelknerif we want to succeed, we need to look for every way not to waste our VERY limited resources12:57
jelknerso i want to send both July and August transfers with mr. zawolo12:57
jelkneri'll call him after our meeting12:57
svayeDcammue said he would reach to the bank for an inquiry jelkner 12:57
jelknerbut i need to know what is possilble12:58
jelkneryes svaye, that's why i'm asking12:58
dcammue+112:58
jelknerdcammue, i can write a check?12:58
dcammueduring the stand-up meeting on monday12:58
dcammueyou will be updated or tomorrow12:59
jelknerok my friend, thanks12:59
jelknerso, can you see my proposed transfer for July?12:59
jelknerthis is important12:59
jelknerwe need to get in the habit of looking at budgets together13:00
jelknerthat's why it's so important for us to get this GnuCash thing working now13:00
jelknerso we have easy access to all our financial data13:00
jelknerand can discuss it together13:00
jelknerdcammue, can you access the sjcompute database?13:01
jelknerif you can, i want you to take a look at what i did yesterday13:01
jelknerand tell me if you can see it13:01
dcammue+113:02
jelknerthomasboimah, gabriel_jetro, mulbah no need to hold up the dev team13:02
dcammuei can access it13:02
jelkneryour task is to work with cjones until you have issue 1 closed13:02
dcammueokay13:02
jelknerplease see if you can do that by monday13:02
mulbahoh okay13:02
jelknerdcammue, that is great!13:02
jelknerdcammue, i've been tweaking the accounts as i go13:03
cjonesjelkner, before I log off, would like to dicuss plans to deploy the todo app. your first user story specifies that you'd like the login page to be live. mulbah emailed me yesterday asking for login crednetials to the linode. I think we should wait until the app is more developed to handle deployment. is that ok with you?13:03
jelkneras svaye told us yesterday, there are only 5 top level accounts13:03
cjones(but can wait until you're finished with this budget chat)13:03
jelknerno cjones 13:03
jelknerlet's pop that to the top of the stack13:03
jelknerget the dev discussion finished13:03
jelknerso devs can get to work13:03
jelknerwhile business team continues to meet here13:04
jelkneryou have the floor13:04
cjoneskk. I'd like to wait until the app is a bit more developed before the team worries about deployment. we can run/test on local until then.13:04
jelknerworks for me13:05
cjonesbut your user story specifically said that youw ant to be able to point your browser to the url13:05
jelknerso this is a process question13:05
svayejelkner: dcammue I just connected to the sjcompute database 13:05
jelkneryes, but you can mark it as completed even if i can't13:05
jelkneri give you full authorization as my proxy! ;-)13:05
mulbahso we finish with the first issue 13:05
jelknerin fact, if you tell me it's done13:05
cjonesgreat - sounds like we're on the same page. and deployment will be its own issue later on the line13:05
jelkneri'll just ask for an invoice13:05
jelknerso we can disucss that13:05
jelkner+113:06
cjonesfirst issue is not done. I left a bunch of comments on the PR that are waiting for gabriel_jetro 's response13:06
jelknersuper13:06
jelknerso that is the dev teams task13:06
mulbahnow we have to be working with cjones until you give another issue right jeff13:06
jelknerto send an invoice13:06
cjonesmulbah, i know you're looking for something to do. can you partner with gabriel_jetro ?13:06
jelknerwhich they can't do until you, cjones, authorize it13:06
jelknermake sense?13:06
cjonesyep13:07
jelknergreat13:07
jelknerget to work on that, dev team!13:07
mulbahokay cjones I will work with gabriel_jetro to complete it13:08
cjonesgreat. i'm logging off now. i'll look out for emails or PR comments from gabriel_jetro / mulbah. have a nice weekend everyone =)13:08
cjonesACTION logging off13:08
mulbahI will view the comments and see what is says 13:08
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mulbahokay cjones will email you if anythings13:08
jelkner+113:09
jelknerok, back to the business team13:09
thomasboimahcjones, can i join then too13:09
thomasboimahoops13:09
jelknerhe logged off thomasboimah 13:09
jelkneremail him13:09
thomasboimahcjone is gone13:09
jelknerthomasboimah, mulbah gabriel_jetro if you want to log off too, go ahead13:09
jelknersince this is now going to be business team meeting13:09
mulbahokay 13:10
thomasboimahokay13:10
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jelknerdcammue, svaye, Klarios we need to move our GnuCash accounting forward13:10
jelknerGoal 1 for me was getting SJC updated13:10
jelknersince it is the simplest business we have13:10
jelkneri started with the basic list of accounts13:11
jelknerand i have been deleting and deleting them13:11
jelkneras svaye pointed out yesterday, there are only 5 top level accounts we need to have13:11
jelknerand we need to memorize the basic accounting equation relating those 5 accounts13:11
jelknerAssets + Expenses = Liabilities + Income + Equity13:12
jelknerthe two debit accounts on the left13:12
jelknerand the three credit accounts on the right13:12
jelkneri'm trying to "learn by doing"13:13
jelkneras i enter transactions, i think about where each one goes13:13
jelkneras we do this with our own two organization (SJC and Jetro Web)13:13
jelknerand NOVA too, eventually13:13
jelknerwe will learn basic bookkeeping13:13
jelknerSECOSOL will be more complex still13:14
jelknerso we aren't ready for that yet13:14
Klariosyep, even earlier than anticipated jelkner because tax season will come sooner than we think13:14
jelkner+113:14
dcammue+113:14
jelknerlet's make it our goal to begin offering basic bookkeeping services by the end of my visit to Liberia next Summer13:15
jelknerthat gives us on year to learn this well enough13:15
jelknerto offer ourselves for hire13:15
Klarios+1 That's a great timeline! with 1 class for all of us next semester\ term we can plan this as well 13:15
jelkner+113:15
jelknerand svaye dcammue and jelkner can work together in person during jelkner's visit13:16
dcammuei just did a review of you hard work ;-)13:16
jelknerto put the "icing on the cake" 13:16
Klariosthat'll be exciting! we've got lots to work towards then 13:16
jelknerok dcammue, can you do for Jetro what i did for SJC?13:17
jelknerset up the accounts13:17
jelknermaking them as simple as possible13:17
KlariosIve got to head out jelkner I will be out all day today at Dilcia's. Lets call tomorrow ?13:17
dcammueyou started with the beginning of the year13:17
dcammueyes jelkner 13:17
jelknerand entering all the 2025 finanical transactions13:17
jelknerexcellent13:17
dcammuei am already on it13:17
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jelkneryou ROCK dcammue!13:17
jelknerwhen you're done with that, i'll log in and look at them13:18
jelknerthen the 4 of us can start having financial planning meetings based on the data we will all have in front of us13:18
jelknerok svaye if you have a minute, i'm going to try to call mr. zawolo now13:19
svayeAlright 13:19
jelknerHe didn't answer svaye 13:20
jelknerlet me tell you what i'm going to do13:20
jelkneri am going to show up at the Springfield Metro at 11 am on Wednesday, July 30th13:21
jelknerand assume he is picking me up there13:21
jelknerif he doesn't show, i'll have to call Jonas and apologize13:21
jelknerand we will have to do a regular wire transfer to get you the July money13:21
jelkneri mean August money13:21
jelknerso we have an A plan - work with Mr. Zawolo13:22
svayeAlright jelkner 13:22
jelknerand a B plan - figure it out without him13:22
jelknerhe already has the box of computers i put together13:22
jelknerso you svaye, you are our best bet at communicating with him13:23
jelknersince i can't13:23
jelknernot until we get back to school13:23
jelknerthen i can show up at his classroom ;-)13:23
jelknernow i have no easy way to reach him13:23
jelkneri'll email him with that message13:24
jelknerand cc you svaye 13:24
jelknerthat's all i can do13:24
jelknerok, have a great weekend dcammue and svaye!13:24
jelknersee you monday at the regular time13:24
jelknerACTION logs off until monday13:24
svayeHave a wonderful day jelkner 13:25
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svayeHave a wonderful day everyone, my battery is running low13:26
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