| svaye | Good morning jelkner | 12:24 |
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| svaye | Good afternoon dcammue | 12:24 |
| thomasboimah | Good morning jelkner and afternoon dcammue and svaye | 12:25 |
| jelkner | Good afternoon thomasboimah, svaye, and dcammue | 12:25 |
| svaye | Good afternoon thomasboimah | 12:25 |
| jelkner | i had a *very* productive weekend! | 12:25 |
| jelkner | Good morning klarios! | 12:25 |
| svaye | Good morning klarios | 12:25 |
| jelkner | so good to see you here *before* the meeting starts! ;-) | 12:25 |
| klarios | good morning! and good afternoon svaye | 12:26 |
| gabriel_jetro | Good morning, and good afternoon everyone | 12:28 |
| dcammue | Good morning and afternoon to folks | 12:29 |
| gabriel_jetro | I apologized for missing this gone Friday meeting, my big brother is sick, I was asked by my Mom to stay with him, due to no internet I was unable to send my communication. | 12:29 |
| jelkner | i spent friday, saturday, and sunday working on many things, but mainly on the 4th reboot of nova web, which will be our main focus this fall. Today i'll meet with devesh, ved, vrishin and chris to talk about gnucash. no blockers. | 12:30 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 12:30 |
| svaye | During the weekend I messaged Mr Zawolo, but I didn't get a single reply. Today I will join the gnucash meeting with jelkner at 2:00pm UTC, but I won't be able to do other work because today is my brothers birthday, and they're celebrating with family members. My blocker is not being able to reach Mr Zawolo. | 12:30 |
| klarios | I hope your brother gets better gabriel_jetro ! thanks for letting us know | 12:30 |
| svaye | ACTION done | 12:30 |
| thomasboimah | During the weekend, I was able to complete my University of the People assignment. I also cloned the repository that Mulbah and Gabriel are working on for the first issue of the Todo app to see if I could make some updates to address Chris's comment on the PR. Today, I plan to push my contribution that addresses Chris's comment. No blockers. | 12:31 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION done | 12:31 |
| svaye | I am so sorry to hear that gabriel_jetro, I pray for speedy recovery. | 12:31 |
| jkollie | During the weekend I did a research on Decidim plugins. Today I'll do an overview of my last research and pratice | 12:31 |
| jkollie | on Decidim and continue from where I stop. | 12:31 |
| jkollie | ACTION done | 12:31 |
| gabriel_jetro | Over the weekend I didn't work on anything, I'm planning to try completing my UOP assignments and continue from where I stopped with the team. | 12:31 |
| gabriel_jetro | ACTION done | 12:31 |
| dcammue | During the weekend, I read on some gnucash features. Today I will continue. No blocker | 12:31 |
| dcammue | ACTION done | 12:32 |
| jelkner | we all wish your brother a speedy recovery gabriel_jetro | 12:32 |
| dcammue | Yes gabriel_jetro our deepest prayer foe you brother | 12:32 |
| klarios | Over the weekend I set up the meeting with zonny (it'll be august 23rd, im missing a time). Today I am meeting with jelkner and book-keepers to set up GNU cash. Tomorrow I will meet with svaye to continue looking into our accounts! | 12:32 |
| klarios | ACTION done | 12:32 |
| jelkner | are we missing anyone? | 12:33 |
| jelkner | nope | 12:33 |
| jelkner | great, that was fast! | 12:33 |
| klarios | oh I do have a blocker. When using business tracker to attempt to create an invoice for Madre tierra & Ms. Scholl, it didn't work, I want to reach out to adrian or stefan soon | 12:33 |
| jelkner | hmmm... | 12:34 |
| jelkner | klarios, do you want a ride to the library? | 12:34 |
| klarios | it seems a lot of the functions dont work | 12:34 |
| klarios | thatd be great jelkner ! | 12:34 |
| jelkner | ok, can i please get everyone's attention | 12:34 |
| jelkner | ? | 12:34 |
| svaye | +1 | 12:35 |
| thomasboimah | +1 | 12:35 |
| jelkner | this process is working *very* well, btw! | 12:35 |
| jkollie | +1 | 12:35 |
| jelkner | i can read your standup summaries | 12:35 |
| jelkner | and quickly plan for the day and week ahead | 12:35 |
| jelkner | for example, svaye, i think we don't have time to try to reach mr. zawolo now | 12:36 |
| jelkner | none of us have been able to for weeks | 12:36 |
| jelkner | i hope everything is ok with him, but for now, we need to plan without him | 12:36 |
| jelkner | i will send the wire transfer today | 12:36 |
| jelkner | i gave him a box of computers to deliver to you | 12:36 |
| jelkner | if he doesn't do that, i can't wire them, unfortunately :-( | 12:37 |
| jelkner | so let's hope he brings them | 12:37 |
| jelkner | otherwise, we will have to continue to make do with the equipment we have | 12:37 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah and svaye, i need to ask you to do something today | 12:37 |
| svaye | What is it jelkner ? | 12:38 |
| jelkner | svaye, if you want to miss our meeting today you can, dcammue is totally capable of covering for you | 12:38 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION waiting for jelkner | 12:38 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, you have a gitlab account, yes? | 12:38 |
| thomasboimah | =1 | 12:38 |
| thomasboimah | +1 | 12:38 |
| jelkner | Please see if you can access https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/fourthrebootplan | 12:39 |
| jelkner | it's a private repo | 12:39 |
| jelkner | so only members should be able to see it | 12:39 |
| jelkner | but i see you listed as a member | 12:39 |
| svaye | jelkner: I will be in the meeting don't worry. | 12:39 |
| jelkner | svaye, more important is thomasboimah to help you set up a gitlab account | 12:39 |
| jelkner | and for you to get access to that planning repo | 12:40 |
| jelkner | i'll be talking with klarios about all this when i see her today | 12:40 |
| jelkner | in brief, we are going to try to make a very serious effort to restart NOVA Web Dev as a working business | 12:41 |
| jelkner | that can support klarios and zOnny and Tony | 12:41 |
| jelkner | lol zOnny and Tony, it rhymes ;-) | 12:41 |
| jelkner | that means developing a proper business plan, a budget, a timeline, etc. | 12:42 |
| klarios | you put me on twice jelkner lol | 12:42 |
| jelkner | lol, i did that so you could fix it (just kidding) | 12:42 |
| jelkner | You're there twice because your *so* important! | 12:43 |
| jelkner | i'll fix it | 12:43 |
| jelkner | ok, klarios, let's talk about Business Tracker | 12:43 |
| klarios | yep yep. Our alliance with Guillaume will be crucial to developing a business plan for decidim. They've already done the success and fails, strenghts and weaknesess in their respective markets. Its up to us to develop a plan and plan for externalities | 12:44 |
| jelkner | we can't reach out to Stefan and/or Adrian and say "hey, Business Tracker is breaking, can you fix it?" | 12:44 |
| jelkner | They can't do that | 12:44 |
| jelkner | it would take too much time | 12:44 |
| jelkner | and we can't afford them | 12:44 |
| jelkner | they are friends | 12:44 |
| klarios | yeah I thought theyd be too busy and they cant volunteer to save us from drowning everytime | 12:44 |
| jelkner | so we *could* say, "We have been working on fixing Business Tracker ourselves, and we have this little bug we can't figure out." | 12:45 |
| jelkner | That we *could* do. | 12:45 |
| klarios | perhaps thomasboimah can take a look at it. I think it might be a small fix | 12:45 |
| jelkner | but unless we are nearing the skill level where we can start taking over BT dev ourselves | 12:45 |
| jelkner | We should stop using it | 12:45 |
| jelkner | that will be part of our planning | 12:45 |
| jelkner | we can't rely on infrastructure over which we have no control | 12:46 |
| jelkner | especially mission critical infrastructure like that | 12:46 |
| jelkner | our goal should be for thomasboimah to learn to hack on it | 12:46 |
| klarios | yeah true that. If we are able to use gnu cash to make invoices that could be of great help! | 12:46 |
| jelkner | that's a big lift, but he is the closest | 12:46 |
| jelkner | zOnny may be able to help him, not sure | 12:46 |
| jelkner | cjones could look at it too | 12:47 |
| svaye | klarios: we can use gnucash for invoices | 12:47 |
| jelkner | we are beginning to have a team with some skills | 12:47 |
| jelkner | this will really test how much skill we have | 12:47 |
| klarios | great news! | 12:47 |
| jelkner | when we can take over BT development, i'll know we are ready | 12:47 |
| klarios | thank you svaye | 12:47 |
| jelkner | yes, svaye | 12:47 |
| jelkner | that's a great idea | 12:47 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, were you able to access the repo? | 12:48 |
| thomasboimah | Yes! | 12:48 |
| jelkner | super | 12:48 |
| jelkner | can you please help svaye do that too | 12:48 |
| jelkner | i like using Markdown for documentation | 12:49 |
| thomasboimah | sure | 12:49 |
| jelkner | it is fast, easy, light weight | 12:49 |
| jelkner | and combined with git | 12:49 |
| jelkner | you have revision control | 12:49 |
| jelkner | i'll talk to cjones at our meeting about how we want the workflow to go | 12:49 |
| svaye | jelkner: should I create an account on gitlab? | 12:49 |
| jelkner | perhaps we should be doing branches and merges | 12:49 |
| jelkner | so we all learn that | 12:49 |
| jelkner | yes, svaye | 12:50 |
| thomasboimah | Yes svaye | 12:50 |
| jelkner | lol | 12:50 |
| jelkner | ok, that's all i have for now | 12:50 |
| jelkner | klarios, can i pick you up at 9:45 am? | 12:50 |
| jelkner | you need to be downstairs in front of your building | 12:50 |
| jelkner | so we can get to the library on time | 12:51 |
| jelkner | klarios, please confirm | 12:51 |
| jelkner | svaye, dcammue just so you know what we will be meeting about this morning | 12:51 |
| klarios | yes | 12:51 |
| klarios | that's a good time jelkner | 12:51 |
| dcammue | Yes 32 utc | 12:52 |
| jelkner | i realized that having so many people sharing access to the same database for our financial data | 12:52 |
| jelkner | sharing a single login / password was a *BAD* idea! | 12:52 |
| dcammue | *2 utc | 12:52 |
| jelkner | i spent saturday researching how roles work in postgres | 12:52 |
| jelkner | *very* cool | 12:52 |
| jelkner | roles in postgres are both users and groups | 12:53 |
| jelkner | so, i created a group role, gnucash, to own and have access rights to our gnucash databases | 12:53 |
| jelkner | i removed login from that role | 12:53 |
| klarios | ahh I saw that jelkner good move | 12:53 |
| jelkner | so you can't login as gnucash | 12:53 |
| jelkner | now i can create roles for each user, klarios, dcammue, jelkner, ved, devesh, etc. | 12:54 |
| jelkner | and give them login, and the inherited privileges from the gnucash user | 12:55 |
| jelkner | that means we can adjust everyone's access individually | 12:55 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, gabriel_jetro have you taken the database course yet¿ | 12:55 |
| jelkner | yet? | 12:55 |
| jelkner | btw. zOnny is one class away from finishing his CS degree at UoPeople | 12:55 |
| thomasboimah | I plan to go for that next term | 12:56 |
| jelkner | so he will want to ask you all about the courses you're taking | 12:56 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, that is a great idea! | 12:56 |
| jelkner | just take that one course | 12:56 |
| svaye | jelkner: can I select product manager as my role in gitli | 12:56 |
| thomasboimah | That will be the only course i will be carrying | 12:56 |
| svaye | Gitlab* | 12:56 |
| jelkner | and you'll be able to apply what you're learning in the real world, since you will be helping cjones admin our databases | 12:56 |
| thomasboimah | Yep! | 12:57 |
| jelkner | ok, anything else before i log off? | 12:57 |
| svaye | jelkner: | 12:57 |
| jelkner | svaye? | 12:57 |
| svaye | Can I select product manager as my role on gitlab? | 12:57 |
| jelkner | that's a great question | 12:58 |
| jelkner | to which i don't really know the answer | 12:58 |
| jelkner | go ahead and do it | 12:58 |
| jelkner | since we can change it later if we need to | 12:58 |
| jelkner | i think that most closely matches what you are, svaye | 12:58 |
| jelkner | so let's try that | 12:58 |
| jelkner | ok, anything else? | 12:58 |
| jelkner | tomorrow i'll have started the wire transfer, dcammue | 12:59 |
| jelkner | so we can chat about that then | 12:59 |
| svaye | What's the reason we are using gitlab jelkner | 12:59 |
| dcammue | Okay jelkner | 12:59 |
| jelkner | great question | 12:59 |
| jelkner | as you must know, NOVA Web is committed to software freedom | 12:59 |
| jelkner | "Use the people's software to help build the people's movement" is one of our core principles. | 13:00 |
| jelkner | Github is *not* free software | 13:00 |
| jelkner | so we can't use it | 13:00 |
| jelkner | Gitlab is free software, so we can | 13:00 |
| jelkner | that's the reason | 13:00 |
| svaye | Thanks jelkner | 13:01 |
| jelkner | ok, anything else before i go? | 13:01 |
| jelkner | okie dokie | 13:01 |
| svaye | I am joining an existing project right jelkner ? | 13:01 |
| jelkner | see y'all here same time same place tomorrow? | 13:01 |
| jelkner | svaye, ask thomasboimah | 13:02 |
| svaye | Alright jelkner | 13:02 |
| jelkner | klarios, see you at 9:45 am sharp | 13:02 |
| jelkner | be waiting for me please | 13:02 |
| dcammue | You too | 13:02 |
| jelkner | we're cutting this close | 13:02 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off until tomorrow | 13:02 |
| thomasboimah | svaye, when you create you account let me know | 13:02 |
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| thomasboimah | *your* | 13:02 |
| svaye | I am creating it but there are few questions | 13:03 |
| klarios | see you at 10: my time svaye dcammue | 13:03 |
| svaye | You too klarios | 13:03 |
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| svaye | thomasboimah: am I joining an existing project? | 13:03 |
| thomasboimah | Yes! | 13:05 |
| dcammue | Svaye it's 2pm our time right? | 13:06 |
| svaye | Yes | 13:06 |
| dcammue | Okay | 13:07 |
| thomasboimah | svaye, i send you private message | 13:14 |
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| cjones | Hi all - sorry for the slow start. Wifi issues here at the library, jelkner and klarios should be joining soon | 14:13 |
| klarios | hello all! | 14:14 |
| jelkner | hi all | 14:15 |
| jelkner | apologies for being late | 14:15 |
| jelkner | agenda: | 14:15 |
| jelkner | 1. make sure everyone can connect from gnucash to postgres | 14:16 |
| jelkner | 2. create roles in our database for each person to the databases they need | 14:16 |
| dcammue | Still having issues with the connection jelkner ? | 14:21 |
| svaye | Hi everyone! | 14:21 |
| dcammue | Hi. svaye | 14:21 |
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| dcammue | Welcome back | 14:22 |
| svaye | Thanks dcammue | 14:23 |
| dcammue | Svaye | 14:27 |
| svaye | Yes | 14:27 |
| dcammue | You getting any chat? Maybe I am out :-) | 14:28 |
| svaye | I am not getting anything | 14:29 |
| dcammue | They said they are having WiFi issues at the lab | 14:32 |
| dcammue | So let wait a bit | 14:33 |
| svaye | Yeah | 14:33 |
| jelkner | ok, svaye | 14:35 |
| jelkner | and dcammue | 14:35 |
| jelkner | we really shouldn't hold you up now | 14:35 |
| jelkner | we need to learn from our experience | 14:36 |
| jelkner | "hybrid" meetings don't work very well in my experience | 14:36 |
| jelkner | and it is particularly frustrating for the remote participants | 14:36 |
| jelkner | we are all here in the same little meeting room in the public library | 14:37 |
| jelkner | we are looking at each other | 14:37 |
| jelkner | bringing our computers to each other | 14:37 |
| jelkner | and talking to each other | 14:37 |
| jelkner | we tend to forget you're here :-( | 14:37 |
| jelkner | sorry about that! | 14:37 |
| jelkner | so i can work with you two individually tomorrow | 14:37 |
| jelkner | after our stand up meeting | 14:38 |
| jelkner | make sense? | 14:38 |
| svaye | Yes | 14:38 |
| jelkner | apologies again svaye | 14:38 |
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| svaye | Thanks for letting us know jelkner | 14:38 |
| jelkner | go to your brother's party svaye | 14:38 |
| jelkner | and have fun! | 14:39 |
| dcammue | Thanks for letting us know | 14:39 |
| svaye | I will leave you guys to it now, have a wonderful day everyone. | 14:39 |
| jelkner | you too svaye | 14:39 |
| dcammue | :-) | 14:39 |
| jelkner | happy b'day to your brother! | 14:39 |
| svaye | Thanks jelkner | 14:39 |
| jelkner | dcammue, no need for you to stay either | 14:39 |
| dcammue | Enjoy svaye haha | 14:39 |
| jelkner | i'll work with you tomorrow | 14:39 |
| svaye | ACTION signs off | 14:39 |
| dcammue | Thanks see you then | 14:40 |
| jelkner | i'm going to sign off to focus on what we're doing here | 14:40 |
| jelkner | i'll share with you tomorrow | 14:40 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off 'til tomorrow | 14:40 |
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