IRC log of #jetrowebdev for Tuesday, 2025-09-09

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dcammueGood morning svaye 10:53
svayeGood morning dcammue, how are you doing?10:53
freenaGood morning dcammue and svaye10:55
svayeGood morning freena 10:55
freenaHow are you svaye 10:55
svayeI am good, how are you doing?10:56
thomasboimahGood morning jelkner dcammue freena and svaye 10:57
jelknerMorning all.10:57
dcammueGood morning thomasboimah 10:57
svayeGood morning jelkner and thomasboimah 10:57
dcammueSorry for yesterday 10:58
freenaGood morning jelkner and thomasboimah 10:58
jelknerYesterday i spoke with both Tony and Kei, sent emails designed to move our process forward, and confirmed with my uncle that i'm coming to NJ saturday. Today i'll continue working with cjones and thomasboimah to finish our first ToDo item. No blockers.10:59
svayeYesterday I went through gnucash features and found a feature for invoice, so I am hoping I can use it for the tododevelopment invoice because it will help me learn more about how gnucash can be used in our business. Today I will start with the invoice if I can get an approval from the team to use gnucash for the invoice. No blockers11:00
thomasboimahYesterday, I completed my UoPeople Database discussion forum and did some of my assignment. I also created and assigned the billing task for the development and deployment work to svaye in the ToDo app (https://todo.jetrowebdevelopment.org). Today, I plan to do any work that Nova and Jetro Web have for me, but if there is none, I will complete my UoPeople assignment and do some reading on the Django documentation. No blockers."11:00
jelknerACTION done11:00
dcammueYesterday, I did my discussion forums and today,  I plan  to do one of my assignments. No blockers. 11:00
thomasboimahACTION done11:00
svayeACTION done11:00
dcammueACTION done11:00
jelknerok, svaye we are in effect blocking on you.11:01
svayeBlocking on approval from the team11:01
jelknerso it is important that you figure out how to finish the first ToDo task, mark it as closed, so we can move on to the next one.11:01
jelkneri don't know what you mean11:01
jelknersvaye: your task is to pay joconnor and jetroweb for their completed work11:02
jelknerthat's the task11:02
jelkneruntil we can:11:02
freenaYesterday I read and created a little summary and notes on what I read about chapter 1.1. Today I plan to move ahead with what I did yesterday 11:02
freenaACTION done 11:02
jelkner1. Find customers who need work11:03
svayejelkner, there is an invoice feature in gnuccash so I wandering if I can use it to send the invoice.11:03
jelkner2. Do the work11:03
jelkner3. Bill for the work11:03
jelkner4. Receive payment11:03
jelkner5. Pay the folks who did the work11:03
gabriel_jetroGreetings everyone, yesterday I work on editing my index.html file to link it with my about.html file, now i am making some changes to my about.html file for my the "Hope Bridge Liberia" website. There's no blocker for now.11:03
gabriel_jetroACTION done11:03
jelkneruntil we can complete all of those steps "in our sleep"11:03
jelknerwe won't be ready to do business professionally11:03
jelknerso please don't delay svaye 11:04
jelkneryou need to figure this out11:04
jelkneri'm the customer11:04
dcammuesvaye: using gnucash to create the invoice has no need to be approved by the team. Is your task just do it and deliver 11:04
svayedcammue, are you on gnucash right now?11:04
jelknerdcammue: svaye needs to coordinate with klarios11:05
gabriel_jetrojelkner, 11:05
dcammueNo svaye 11:05
jelknersince the money will go into the NOVA Web bank account11:05
jelknerand be distributed from there11:05
svayeThere's always another user on gnucash when I try to use it, and I can't send an invoice if I am on read only11:05
jelknerso this is a communication challenge more than anything else11:05
jelkneryou need to develop light, efficient workflow to do the 5 steps i listed11:06
jelknerwe need to do those 5 steps over and over and over and over and over ;-)11:06
jelkneruntil it becomes automatic for us11:06
jelknerthis first time will be hard11:06
jelkner2nd time much easier11:07
jelkneretc.11:07
jelknersvaye: do you understand?11:07
svaye+111:07
jelknergreat11:07
jelknerdon't delay11:07
dcammueYou can open gnucash with out using jetroweb database. Then create the invoice and export it to your computer 11:07
jelknersince soon Jetro will only receive funds it can bill for11:08
jelknerso it needs to learn to bill!11:08
jelknerand collect11:08
svayejelkner, you said something about two invoices11:08
jelkneryes11:08
jelknersvaye: i'm not totally sure how to think about this11:08
jelknerit may be 3 invoices even11:09
jelknerremember, i'm learning this along with you11:09
jelknerlet's think it through11:09
jelknerSJC is the customer11:09
svayeWho are the three invoices from?11:09
jelknerNOVA Web is the provider11:09
jelknerfollow me, svaye 11:09
svayeokay11:09
jelkneri'm thinking this through now11:09
jelknerhopefully you can soon learn to do this kind of thinking too11:10
jelknerare you with me so far?11:10
svaye+111:10
jelknerSJC is the customer, NOVA Web is the provider, so that is invoice #111:10
jelknerNOVA Web invoices SJC for the completed work11:11
jelknerbut now, svaye, what else needs to be done?11:11
jelknerACTION waits for svaye to respond11:12
svayeThere are other people who did the work but are not from Novaweb11:12
jelkner+111:12
jelknernice!11:12
jelknerthey are subcontractors11:12
jelknerwho are they?11:12
svayeJetroweb11:12
jelkneryup11:12
jelknerand...11:12
svayeJames Connor11:13
jelkner+111:13
jelkneryou rock svaye!11:13
jelknerso now you know where the 3 invoices come from11:13
jelknermake sense?11:13
svaye+111:13
jelknerexcellent11:13
svayeSo Nova web invoice is directed to SJC11:13
jelkneryup11:14
jelknerthe other two invoices are directed to NOVA Web11:14
svayeJetroweb and James Connor invoices are directed to Novaweb11:14
jelkneri may have mentioned the idea of a "retainer"11:15
jelknersince all this invoicing is going to get tedious11:15
jelknerespecially for small stuff11:15
jelknerso soon (but not yet) we will set up a "retainer" between Jetro and NOVA Web11:15
jelknerwhere NOVA Web sends $10K (or something) to Jetro11:16
jelknerand Jetro just debits that account whenever work is completed11:16
jelknerso we don't have to keep sending individual invoices for each little thing11:16
jelknerbut we will need to "account" for each little thing11:16
jelknerso svaye and dcammue need to learn proper bookkeeping! ;-)11:17
jelknerok, i need to go11:17
jelknersvaye: you know what you need to do11:17
jelkneri'll keep checking with you each morning until its done11:17
svayejelkner, so the two invoices are going to Novaweb right?11:18
jelkneryup11:18
jelknerthink it through11:18
jelkneryou need to work backwards11:18
jelknerfind out from james how much he is billing11:18
jelknerask thomasboimah how much jetro is billing11:18
svayeI sent him a mail yesterday, but he hasn't responded11:19
jelknerthen add a bit of time for the bookkeeper at NOVA web (which will soon be you, svaye ;-)11:19
jelknerto do the bookkeeping11:19
jelknerand produce a total invoice from NOVA to SJC11:19
jelkneryou can task me with being the "unstucker"11:20
jelknerwhen communication gets stuck11:20
jelknerit sometimes requires a squeaky wheel11:20
jelknerfrom the old expression "the squeaky wheel gets the oil"11:20
jelknerSQUEAK, SQUEAK!!!!11:20
jelknersee, i can do that ;-)11:21
jelknerseriously, i can call james11:21
jelknerand text him11:21
jelkneretc.11:21
jelknerif he doesn't respond11:21
jelknerif he wants to do this regularly, we will need to struggle with him to be more responsive11:21
svayePerfect! I will let you know tomorrow if he doesn't respond then you can give him a call11:21
jelknersince we can't block on him for too long11:21
jelknerexcellent svaye 11:22
jelknersee you tomorrow, same time, same place11:22
jelknerACTION signs off11:22
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thomasboimahbye guys11:22
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svayehave a wonderful day guys11:22
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gabriel_jetrojelkner11:23
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