IRC log of #jetrowebdev for Wednesday, 2025-09-10

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svayeGood morning dcammue 10:49
dcammueGood morning svaye 10:50
dcammueHow are you 10:50
dcammueHow is the process?10:50
svayeIs okay10:51
dcammueGreat 10:51
thomasboimahGood morning dcammue and svaye 10:53
svayeGood morning thomasboimah 10:53
dcammueGood thomasboimah 10:53
dcammueHow everything 10:53
thomasboimahGreat! bro and you? long time.10:53
dcammueYeah 10:53
svayethomasboimah, did you see jeff respond to my mail yesterday?10:54
thomasboimahyes10:54
svayeWhen do you think that can be done\10:55
jkolliegood morning everyone10:56
svayeGood morning jkollie 10:56
svayeGood morning jelkner 10:56
jelknerSpent the day yesterday juggling too many things, as usual. Today i'll do the same ;-) Main blocker is advancing age and declining energy.  I'm ok, really ;-)10:59
dcammueYesterday,  I did one of my assignments and today I plan to do the last one. No blockers 11:00
thomasboimahYesterday, I completed my UoPeople assignment and did some reading on the Django documentation. Today, I plan to do any work that Nova and Jetro Web have for me, but if there is none, I will try to find some Python problems on Stack Overflow to test my skills. No blocker11:00
jelknerACTION done11:00
svayeYesterday I work on the draft of the invoice for the Todo App and this is a link for what the invoice would look like https://share.mayfirst.org/apps/files/personal/40679187?dir=/&openfile=true. Today I will post my assignment at Uopeople and ask thomasboimah to help change my email address from svaye@mayfirst.org to svaye@jetrowebdevelopment.org. I am blocking on James, I am yet to receive a  response from him to complete the invoice.11:00
thomasboimahACTION done11:00
dcammueACTION done11:00
svayeACTION done11:00
jelknerthomasboimah, svaye let's talk about that invoice11:01
mulbahYesterday I send my day reading Django and The Linux Book I have and also practicing of the command like crontab, netstat, find and lsof11:01
mulbahACTION done 11:01
jelknermulbah: i haven't forgotten Linux+11:01
jelknermaybe we can work on that together if i get to come next summer11:02
mulbahOkay Jeff11:02
mulbahI still have the books11:02
jkollieyesterday I did a research on other things I need to learn and understand as a  Decidim student, I also read 11:02
jkollieon some guidelines. I even got to know about the Decidim fest (Decidim Fest 2024) Today I'll continue from where I stop with the book. my only blocker is getting Kei presentation.11:02
jkollieACTION done11:02
jelkneryes jkollie, and i'm afraid it may not be easy to do that11:03
jelkneri'm frustrated, but it is not under our control11:03
jelknerso let's move on11:03
jelkneri have only a few minutes11:03
jelkneri spoke to mr. zawolo11:04
jkolliealright jelkner11:04
jelknerhe restated his willingness to go in half and half with me on the jetro office11:04
thomasboimahsvaye, the link is not taking me to the invoice11:04
jelkneri told him we would only need to do it for 1 year11:04
jelknerthat i now feel very confident in a year jetro will be able to pay for its own office!11:04
jelknerhe said he will talk to me more next week or the week after about that11:05
jelknerthomasboimah, did you see my email about svaye's email?11:05
thomasboimah+111:05
jelknercan you work with her to fix that please?11:05
thomasboimahyes11:05
jelknerthanks!11:06
svayeIs anyone else have a problem with the link?11:06
jelknersvaye: i can't see the document in the link you sent11:06
jelkneryes, i can't see it11:06
svayegive me a min11:06
jelknersvaye: what are you using to create invoices?11:06
svayeright now I am using gnucash11:07
jelknerso it generates a pdf, yes?11:07
jelknerwe need to keep track of how much storage we are using11:08
jelknerbut thomasboimah, i have a proposal for a simpler workflow for invoices between us11:08
svayeyes jelkner it generates pdf11:08
jelkner1. you create a directory on Jetro Web's Nextcloud that you share with NOVA Web11:09
jelknerthen you just put invoices there11:09
jelknerand we can see them11:09
jelkneri can't do this now11:09
jelknerwe need to schedule a worksession11:09
jelknerand soon11:09
svayeTry this link https://share.mayfirst.org/apps/files/personal/40679364?dir=/Documents&openfile=true11:10
jelknerthis weekend i'm going to NJ to get the money to help us launch our co-ops11:10
jelknerthat takes me to a directory, not a file11:10
jelknera file url will and in a bunch of hex or base64 digitis11:10
jelknerdigits11:11
jelknersvaye: ask thomasboimah to help you11:11
jelknersvaye: any word from james?11:11
jelkneri texted him11:11
svayenot yet jelkner 11:11
jelkneri'll try again today to call him11:11
thomasboimahsvaye, just do the invoice in markdown and send it for now.11:12
jelknerthomasboimah: can you estimate how many hours he worked helping you?11:12
thomasboimahI will work you through nextcloud late11:12
jelknerwe are blocking on not collecting and paying11:13
thomasboimah40 hour both the development, deployment and documentation11:13
jelknerjust for james?11:13
jelkneror for both of you?11:13
thomasboimahNo that is for me11:13
thomasboimahI mean Jetro11:14
jelknergot you11:14
jelknerwhat about James?11:14
thomasboimahit is $5 pre hour11:14
jelknerhow much time did he spend helping you11:14
jelknerright thomasboimah 11:14
jelkneri got that11:14
jelknerthat's what scared me11:14
jelkner40 hours for james we can't afford11:14
thomasboimahjelkner, Jame just really help with some instruction through mail11:14
jelknerit will break the bank quickly11:14
jelknerso let's say 5 hours11:15
jelknerdoes that sound good?11:15
thomasboimahSo i will say 5 hour for James11:15
dcammueYes 11:15
jelknergreat11:15
jelknerThat's $350 total11:15
jelknerwe can work with that11:15
dcammueWait 11:15
jelknersvaye: you need to add 2 hours for your time processing the payment11:16
dcammueYou said 5 hours11:16
dcammueBut 350 again?11:16
jelkner5 hours to process 1 payment?11:16
jelknerthat will kill us dcammue 11:16
jelknerdo the math11:16
jelknerevery time we process one payment takes us 5 hours!?11:16
dcammueThen why the 5 per hour not okay?11:16
dcammue+1 jelkner 11:17
jelknerdcammue: i don't think you are getting me11:17
jelkner$5 per hour is the rate11:17
jelknerwe are discussing the time11:17
dcammueOkay total for both thomasboimah and James right?11:17
jelknerTotal bill to SJC from NOVA Web is (40 * 5 + 5 * 30 + 2 * 5)11:18
jelkner$36011:18
jelkner$150 to james11:18
jelknerand $210 to Jetro11:18
jelknermake sense?11:19
jelkneri have to go11:19
svaye+111:19
jelkneri need to prepare for class11:19
jelknerbut your task today is to generate an invoice from NWD to SJC for $360 listing what service was provided11:19
dcammueI got you now11:19
jelkneri'll check with you tomorrow11:19
jelknersee you then11:20
jelknerACTION signs off until tomorrow11:20
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svayeHave a wonderful day jelkner11:20
svayethomasboimah, do you have time now for the nextcloud session?11:21
thomasboimahNot now svaye I have class in 5 min11:23
svayeAlright, give me a call or text when you are ready11:24
thomasboimahFor the email issue all you have to do is to login to you email: go to Setting after the select identify11:24
thomasboimahthen click on the mail you will see in the email field the svaye@mail.mayfirst.org replace it with 11:25
thomasboimahshallon.vaye@jetrowebdevelopment.org11:25
thomasboimahthat all11:25
thomasboimahbye guys11:25
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