IRC log of #jetrowebdev for Monday, 2025-12-08

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svayeGood morning dcammue 11:54
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dcammueGood morning, svaye and jkollie 11:56
jkollieGood morning dcammue11:57
thomasboimahGood morning everyone11:58
thomasboimahYesterday, zOnny and I continued working on unit tests for the LO blog app (for Secosol integration). We completed and passed test_apps.py and test_urls.py, and made progress on test_logic.py. Test coverage is now at 60%. Today, I’ll finish the remaining tests to reach 100% coverage. No blockers.12:00
thomasboimahACTION done12:00
svayeDuring the week I didn't do much work, today  I have a test to write. I don't have a specific task now so I am open for any task. No blockers 12:00
mulbahGood day guys 12:00
svayeACTION done12:00
jkollieyesterday I did an overview of the previous chapter I read("The Social Contract as a Design Principle"), I also check the Nova web Decidim for a 12:00
jkolliequick catch-up on admin access, since am hoping to have an admin access on NOVASEN if there is, Today I'll email Kei about my thoughts of NOVASEN 12:00
jkolliehaving an admin, check the site and continue with the Decidim book. No blocker12:00
dcammueYesterday,  I had a great meeting with jelkner and and read on the federal tax law frothe IRS website.  Today,  I am washing my clothes and later go get the office diagram for jelkner to review 12:00
jkollieACTION done12:00
dcammueACTION done12:00
mulbahYesterday I work on the reset password issue and I completed it and tested it with my email I'm about to push to the branch12:01
mulbahACTION done12:01
dcammueGood morning, to all12:01
svayeGood afternoon everyone 12:01
jkolliegood afternoon svaye12:02
dcammueYesterday,  jelkner introduced an app that hosts opened source app12:02
dcammueF-droid12:02
dcammueIt is nice 12:03
jelknerMy humble apologies all12:03
svayedcammue: when do you plan to buy the materials needed for the office space?12:03
jelkner i got deep into lesson planning and didn't watch the clock12:03
svayeGood morning jelkner 12:03
jelknersorry i'm late12:03
mulbahThomas I just push12:03
dcammueYou can use it to get other app that are opened to the public. 12:03
mulbahso I should add cjones as the code viewer right12:03
mulbahin my pull request12:04
jkolliegood morning jelkner12:04
dcammueI even used it to download the revolution irc12:04
mulbahGood morning Jeff12:04
dcammueGood morning jelkner 12:04
jelknerYesterday i had breakfast with Brandon Forester and talked about the RABT initiative and NOVASEN. Today I will follow up on that. No blockers.12:05
jelknerACTION done12:05
jelknerBrandon is on the board of May First12:05
jelknerhttps://mayfirst.coop/en/who/12:05
jelkneri met him because i am on the May First Engagement committee12:06
jelknerand he is too12:06
jelknerwhen i found out he lived in the D.C. area12:06
jelkneri reached out to him to meet12:06
jelknerjkollie: i'm so glad you're here12:06
jelknersince this pertains mostly to you12:06
jkolliealright jelkner 12:07
jelknerbtw, jkollie, i hear really good things about your work from klarios12:07
jelkneri think i was wrong last week when i said decidim would not generate enough work for awhile12:07
jkolliethat's good to know12:07
jelknerklarios is saying you could play an active role in helping us with our novasen decidim "experiment"12:08
jelknerjkollie: did you see the new initiative i added yesterday?12:08
jkollieI saw it last night12:08
jelknernice!12:09
jelkneryou rock!12:09
jkollieis about your campaign right12:09
jelknerwell, the idea for our movement in general (and i would argue for all of humanity, if we don't want to be slaves to big tech)12:09
jelkneris to figure out how to use ict tools that we can control (instead of having them control us)12:10
jelknerso may first is part of a campaign12:10
jelknerhttps://riseagainstbig.tech/12:10
jelkneri'm proposing that novasen join may first12:11
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jelknerand learn to use its resources (nextcloud, etc.) to move off of big tech12:11
jelknerok, dcammue what's the update on the office12:11
jkolliesounds great jelkner12:11
jelkneror should i read the logs?!12:11
dcammueI will go the later today12:12
dcammueI am doing small washing 12:12
jelkneryes, i just read the logs12:12
dcammueBefore 6pm your time you will get it12:12
jelknerok all, let's figure out one thing, and then i have to go12:13
thomasboimahmulbah, I saw your pull request12:13
mulbahoh okay 12:13
jelknerthe work jkollie is doing with decidim should be billable12:13
jelknerit is core work to nova web's business plan12:13
jelknerdcammue and svaye, we need to figure this out12:14
thomasboimahmulbah, why did you change the style?12:14
jkolliejelkner do just want novasen to join or is there a major thing you need me to do right now?12:14
jelkneras project managers, you should think about how we make her work explicit, set a more clear idea of what the deliverables are, and then how jetro can bill for it12:14
svayejelkner: do you want us to include it in the service we offer?12:14
jelknerhmmm...12:15
jelkneras far as advertising that svaye, don't rush12:15
mulbahI might need to login into the server to add the EMAIL_HOST_USER and EMAIL_HOST_PASSWORD to the env12:15
jelknerthis is a practical experiment12:15
thomasboimahAs a developer you need to be able to answer the "Why" question before you change something12:15
svayejelkner: jkollie could send me something that explains her work better than I can work from there12:15
jelknerwe are seeing if we have a product that is useful12:15
jelknerthink of it as R&D12:15
mulbahthomasboimah I just try to improve it12:15
jelknerdo you know what R&D is?12:15
jelknersvaye?12:16
svayeNot really jelkner 12:16
jelknercool12:16
jelknerResearch and Development12:16
jelknerhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_and_development12:16
jelknerwe need to know that we have something useful12:17
jelknerbefore we go out and market it12:17
jelknerthe $30 grant to NOVA and Jetro is for just that12:17
jelknerto help the two co-ops do internal development12:17
jelknerso they can be ready for marketing to the rest of the world12:17
jelknerwhat you need to learn from this, svaye and dcammue, is how to bill for this kind of thing12:18
jelknerklarios will need to learn that too12:18
svayeWhat role does jkollie have as it relates to decidim jelkner ?12:18
jelknernow we're getting somewhere!12:18
thomasboimahmulbah, I am seeing an in-line css in the code you push and we have a style sheet, don't you think it will be best if we use the style sheet instead of using in-line css?12:18
mulbahYou can check the improvement I made on it if it's not cool I can put the same style back 12:18
jelknerit seems to me, svaye, that you need to have a conversation with jkollie!12:18
svayeWe have to know what she can do to be able to Bill for it12:18
jelknerso she can inform you about what she is doing12:18
jelknerwe can talk more after that12:19
svaye+1 jelkner 12:19
thomasboimahWe need to keep our work clearn12:19
thomasboimah*clean*12:19
jelknerbut jetro members need to collaborate better12:19
jelkneri'm hoping your new office will take care of that12:19
jelkneror at least help with it12:19
svayejkollie: when will you be available for us to meet here on the hexchat?12:19
thomasboimahmulbah, I am seeing an in-line css in the code you push and we have a style sheet, don't you think it will be best if we use the style sheet instead of using in-line css?12:19
mulbahI use the style sheet which is in sharedtodo/static12:19
jkollielet's meet later today12:20
svayeOr we could keep the meeting for after we move in12:20
jelkneror both ;-)12:20
jelknerok, i need to go12:20
jelkneranything else for me before i leave?12:20
thomasboimahYes mulbah, and you also use in-line css in your template12:20
svayeHow does 8:00pm sounds jkollie 12:20
mulbahyes is that a problem12:20
dcammueSee you Wednesday same time same place 12:20
jelknersee y'all on wednesday, same time, same place12:20
jelknerlol12:20
svayeHave a wonderful day jelkner 12:21
thomasboimahYes mulbah we need to keep our work clearn12:21
jelkneryou too!12:21
jkollie8:00pm is okay with me12:21
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svayeAlright jkollie 12:21
mulbahI see that same approach in the code 12:21
thomasboimahIf we are using style sheet we use it , if we are using in-line css we use it12:21
svayeI have to go now guys, have a wonderful day everyone 12:21
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dcammueJkollie 12:22
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mulbahbut that approach was in the code12:22
jkollieyes dcammue12:22
thomasboimahWhich code mulbah? which template?12:22
dcammueCan we talk or you have no time now12:22
mulbahboth the login and signup12:23
jkollielet's talk dcammue12:23
mulbahcheck it 12:23
dcammueOkay, thanks12:23
thomasboimahNO mulbah 12:24
dcammueI want to understand the clear on the thing you are working on 12:24
thomasboimahDid you pull the repo before you push?12:24
mulbahshould I send you a screen shout of it12:24
dcammueIn decidim12:24
jkollieokay dcammue12:25
thomasboimahmulbah, i hope you are not taking this bad I am just tell you the same chris will tell when he review your code12:25
dcammueLet just me on novaweb channel if possible?12:25
dcammue*meet12:25
thomasboimahHe once tell me this, that i am tell12:25
thomasboimahYOu12:25
jkolliedcammue12:25
dcammueYes12:25
dcammueI said can we do it on novaweb channel?12:26
jkollieokay12:26
thomasboimahmulbah, look at this my sign up is the one in the red: https://codeberg.org/JetroWebDevelopment/ToDos/pulls/24/files#diff-2492852088af8a8eb42d91a0e34ec29e777ec61412:26
thomasboimahThere is no in-line css12:26
jkolliebut how about you join the meeting today by 8:00pm12:26
jkolliesince am meeting with svaye we can discuss better12:27
dcammueOK 12:27
dcammueThen later 12:27
mulbahoh my bad I haven't cloned the code for a long time and saw that in the code before pulling the latest changes  12:27
dcammueThanks 12:27
jkolliealright12:28
thomasboimahThat's it mulbah, you always need to pull before you push12:28
mulbahthanks for the correction bro let me fix that issue 12:28
mulbahI did12:28
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mulbahI'm saying I was it in the old code before pulling the latest changes12:29
mulbahsaw*12:29
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jkollieHi svaye19:59
svayeHi jkollie 19:59
svayeHow are you doing19:59
jkollieam okay20:00
svayeThat's great 20:01
svayeCan we start now20:01
jkolliedcammue wantedto join us but if he's not coming we can go adhead20:02
svayewe can wait a little longer20:02
svayeI don't have credit in my phone now, if you do please give him a call20:03
jkollieokay, I'll just send he a text 20:03
jkollieI also don't have credit20:04
svayealright20:06
svayejkollie, if you can't get to dcamnue we can start and he will read the logs20:12
jkollie+1 let's start20:12
svayeJeff wants us to bill for your work done on decidim, but we don't know how to go about it20:13
svayeCan you give me a little light on what exactly you do? then we can work from there20:14
jkolliefirstly as a person who is studying decidim and a novasen member there a lot I can do in decidim like20:15
jkollieProject and Participation Management, consultant/trainer, support specialist and etc.20:16
jkollieso what can be bill for will depends on who am working for20:16
svayeAmong those positions which one are you good at than the rest20:17
jkollieweather an individual or organizations20:17
svayeIf you are able to do all base on the organization or individual, we could list all as a service20:18
jkolliewhat I mention is what I know how to do svaye20:18
jkolliebut from what I read in the log 20:19
jkolliejeff said he has two things he want to use novasen for20:19
jkollieam not sure if that what he wants to build for20:20
svayeIf we are marketing decidim to the public we should be ready to provide services 20:21
svayeNovasen is the organization that has decidim right?20:22
jkolliebut base on what he said is a consultant or trainer and a support specialist20:22
jkollieright svaye20:22
svayeHow many people do you work with20:22
jkollieright now it has just been me and when I need help I get to share idea with kei20:24
svayeDid Jeff make mention of the two things we wants to use Novasen for?20:24
jkolliewe have other novasen member20:24
jkollie+1 svaye20:25
svayewhat are they20:25
jkolliehe want to use it for the mayfirst campagin20:26
jkollieand to get 20:26
jkollieArlington Coalition to use it to plan it's work20:29
svayeSo right now it's still on testing?20:29
jkollieand maybe other things he didn't mention20:29
jkollie+120:30
svayeI understand those are the two things that jeff wants to do, but we need to know what we could bill for when it starts working effectively 20:31
jkolliehe mentioned he needs someone to teach him how to use the system20:31
svayeThat is the work of the consultant/trainer right20:31
jkollieyes svaye 20:32
svayeIf that is so we can bill for that. and you guys could schedule your time20:33
svayethat can be your first work20:33
svayeAre you ready to train him?20:33
jkollie+1 svaye 20:34
svayeGreat!!20:34
svayeI will email him, than we can conclude it Wednesday20:34
jkollieokay 20:35
svayeHi dcammue 20:35
svayedid you read the logs? do you have anything to add20:35
jkollieHi anthony_p and dcammue20:35
svayeHi anthony_p 20:35
jkollieanthony_p are you here? 20:37
jkollieI saw your mail can we talk a bit20:37
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svayeI think that is all for now jkollie 20:44
jkollieokay svaye lets talk on wednesday20:45
svayeThanks for attending 20:45
jkolliedcammue20:45
jkollieyou are welcome20:46
svayeGood night sweet dreams everyone20:46
jkollieyou too svaye20:46
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