IRC log of #jetrowebdev for Wednesday, 2026-03-11

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jelknerGood morning jkollie 10:57
thomasboimahHello world!10:57
jkollieGood morning jelkner 10:57
jelkneri saw you tried to call me on telegram10:58
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jelknerwhen i tried to call back, you didn't pick up10:58
freenaGood morning jelkner 10:58
jelknerGood morning freena10:58
jelknergreat to see you10:58
freenaSame here10:58
jkollieIt was a mistake jelkner 10:58
jelknerok10:58
jkollieI sent a message 10:58
dcammueOn Monday, I planed my UL classes. And yesterday, I continue learning and improving my skills from Django Documentation, today, today is holiday (Decoration Day) in Liberia, so Jetro is closed for today office work but I will continue with my Django.11:00
freenaYesterday I completed module three of my html seesion with edube, OpenEDG. Today I will start with module 411:00
dcammueACTION done11:00
jkollieYesterday I continue my  practice on HTML and CSS  then  check in NoVASEN to review the  current progress, I was also able to respond to jelkner mail this morning concerning our board meeting.(Again, I apologize for the late reply)11:00
jkollieToday after my discussion with jelkner, I'll email the rest of the board members concerning the propose agenda and also find out if they have any other agenda on mind. No blocker11:00
freenaACTION done11:00
thomasboimahOn Monday I completed the configuration of webschool.sjcompute.org. I restored all PostgreSQL databases and installed Let's Encrypt SSL with auto-renewal. I also hardened the server by disabling password authentication and enabling SSH key access only. Today I will be writing my UoPeople grade quiz. Jelkner, I just added an invoice in BT with the intent of dogfooding. Can you view it and let me know your feedback (https://tracker.sjcompute.org/i11:00
thomasboimahnvoices/)? No blockers.11:00
thomasboimahACTION done11:00
jkollieACTION done 11:00
jelknerYesterday and this morning i finished my week 6 written assignment for UoP and submitted it ( https://elkner.net/static/UoPeople/DottiesGrocery.pdf ).  Today i have a meeting with someone from ANCCF at 11:00 EST to help them setup their Linode so we can develop their new website.  No blockers.11:00
jelknerACTION done11:00
jelknerwait a minute, freena and jkollie, since you are working your way through html on OpenEDG, i have an idea11:02
jelknerbut it will require some commitment from you.11:02
freenaI'm listening jelkner 11:02
jkollieOkay please go ahead 11:02
jelknerI am working with a single student, who is learning html, css and php11:02
jelknerit is just me working with her11:02
jelknernot a very efficient use of my time, and not much fun for her, since she mostly has to work alone11:03
jelknerwhy don't we form a study group?11:03
jelknerkendyl, janet and freena?11:03
freenasure11:03
freena+111:03
jelkneryou could meet with her during the class time11:03
jkollieSounds great 11:03
jelknerit is the same class time when dcammue meets with kara, josh and ben11:04
jelknerso dcammue can remind you when it's time for class11:04
jelknerand thomasboimah can set you up on the same server that kendyl is using11:04
freenaWhat's the class schedule jelkner ??11:04
jelknerwebschool.sjcompute.org11:04
jelknerask dcammue, freena 11:05
freenaOkay 11:05
jkollieOkay, dcammue it's on you to give me the time 11:05
jelknerit meets tomorrow at 15:32 UTC11:05
freenadcammue: ??11:05
jelknerbut the days change from week to week11:05
jelknerthe time after that will be next monday11:05
jelknerat the same time of day11:06
gabriel_jetroGood morning everyone, jelkner I'm sorry I was unable to make it to class, we're having an electricity issue here, our current ain't stable 11:06
jelkneryes gabriel_jetro, that's why jetro has an office11:07
jelknerif you are serious about becoming a paid member of jetro web11:07
dcammueThe schedule is not really stable, but it can be from Monday to Friday. Two or three times in a week. Either Monday and Wednesday and Friday or Tuesday and Thursday 11:07
jelkneryou'll need to be able to get yourself there11:07
jelknerit has been one of my big concerns for a long time, as you probably know11:07
jelknerjetro can not be a workable web tech business if it does not have reliable infrastructure, simple as that11:08
dcammueBut I can alert you guys when it's time 11:08
gabriel_jetroWe have days to meet there and yesterday was my day off, I do understand jelkner , once again I'm sorry 11:08
jelknernp11:08
jelkneryou know it is my duty as project manger to whine ;-)11:08
jelkneronly way i know to help raise our standards11:08
jelkneri want y'all to call me about when i fall short too!11:09
jelknerwe want to succeed11:09
gabriel_jetroI did not get your alert dcammue my phone was off 11:09
jelknerso we need to support (and push) each other11:09
gabriel_jetro+111:09
jelknerok, jkollie i just saw your email11:10
jelknerwhat has happened to svaye, btw?11:10
jelknershe seems to have disappeared11:10
jkollieShe isn't feeling well 11:10
jelknerthomasboimah and dcammue, can i talk to you two briefly about our business plan?11:10
thomasboimahsure11:11
jelknersorry to hear that jkollie, wish her a speedy recovery for me11:11
jkollieAlright jelkner 11:11
jelkneri've been thinking about your comment yesterday that you are on salary11:11
jelknerthat's true, thomasboimah, and you earn every penny of what you get11:11
jelknerbut the problem is, you are not developing a path to earn revenue for the others11:11
jelknerwe need to figure that out11:12
jelkneri've been thinking about it since you said it yesterday11:12
jelkneri'm not sure how to do it11:12
jelknerbut i have a thought11:12
jelknerfirst, as a salaried person, you are being paid for your leadership and initiative11:12
jelkneras you know, i can afford to donate about $1000 per month11:13
jelknerthat's my limit, and we need to earn a lot more than that11:13
jelknerif all of you are going to earn a living from jetro11:13
jelkneri think we soon can, too11:13
jelknerbut only if you can continue to grow your skills11:13
jelknerthat means figuring out who is on board, thomasboimah 11:14
jelknerare gabriel_jetro and mulbah part of the dev team?11:14
jelkneri haven't seen mulbah for awhile11:14
jelknerif they are, you need to think of a plan for them to develop11:14
jelknerand they need to earn something while they do it11:14
jelknerso they can cover costs for transportation etc, that gabriel_jetro spelled out in his email awhile aog11:15
jelknerago11:15
jelknerso here's what i'm thinking basically11:15
jelknersuppose i come to jetro as a customer to do something like deploy https and cert renewal on webschool11:16
jelknerinstead of doing it yourself11:16
jelkneryou could sit down with gabriel_jetro or mulbah and guide them through it11:16
jelkneri would be fine if they then billed SJC for their time11:16
jelknerwhile you continued to draw your salary11:16
jelknermy biggest concern is the overall level of skills of the team needs to keep growing11:17
thomasboimahYou are right11:17
jelknerright now only you, thomasboimah, can really do professional work11:17
jelknerwe need to change that, and we need to change it soon11:17
thomasboimahI need to share the skill11:17
jelknerso please think about that11:18
jelknersound good?11:18
thomasboimahyes!11:18
jelknercool11:18
jelknerok, jkollie what do you need from me before you can send the email11:18
jelkner?11:18
jkollieJust if you have any thoughts to share with me 11:19
jelkneri sent you a rough draft11:19
jkollieI was going to ask11:19
jelknerplease send out an email today11:19
jelkneryou can add to the agenda if you think there is something missing11:20
jelkneri left one item off on purpose, so i could respond to your email to propose it ;-)11:20
jkollieShould I create the meeting and send share the link??11:20
jelkneri'm trying to pull the rest of the board into participating11:20
jelknerit takes time, effort, and patience11:20
jelknerand leadership11:21
jkollieWhen I send the email 11:21
jkollieThat's right jelkner 11:21
jelknerjkollie: our goal should be for you to get my help for the next 6 months or so11:21
jkollieOkay 11:21
jelknerour goal should be that after 6 months (which means after i leave from my visit)11:21
jelkneryou should be ready to do this on your own11:22
jelknergabriel_jetro: i have a customer request for you11:22
jkollie+111:22
jelknerwhich you need to do under thomasboimah's guidance11:22
jelknerready?11:22
gabriel_jetroSure 11:22
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jelknerUser story: As a web development teacher, i want jkollie and freena to have accounts on the webschool server setup like thomasboimah did for kendyl so that i can begin teaching them html, css, and php tomorrow.11:24
jelkneryou can bill for your time11:24
jelknerbut you need to work under thomasboimah's guidance11:24
gabriel_jetroOhk..11:24
jelknersince we can't break that server now! ;-)11:24
jelknerthomasboimah: can you help him with that?11:24
thomasboimahsure11:25
thomasboimah+111:25
jelknerthank you!11:25
jelknerok, gotta go11:25
jelkneri'll see you tomorrow in class, those of you coming11:25
gabriel_jetroI'll be in class 11:25
jelknerand everyone else i'll see on Friday at this time can place11:25
dcammueSee you tomorrow, if there will be class 11:25
freenaOkay jelkner 11:25
jkollieSee you tomorrow jelkner 11:26
jelknerdcammue: there will be11:26
dcammueOpps11:26
dcammueOkay 11:26
freenaHave a great day jelkner 11:26
dcammueSee you then 11:26
jelknerbye, looking forward to your email jkollie 11:26
jelknerACTION signs off11:26
gabriel_jetrothomasboimah: 11:26
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thomasboimahyes11:26
gabriel_jetroWhen you'll be ready for us to start?11:26
freenaACTION sign off 11:26
thomasboimahanytime you ready gabriel_jetro 11:27
thomasboimahBut i think Jeff need that before tomorrow11:27
thomasboimahsince jkollie freena and kthomas is going to start their study tomorrow11:28
gabriel_jetroSure that's why I was suggesting today to work on it11:28
thomasboimahsure today is the day to do it11:28
gabriel_jetroCan you do a drift on how to go about that I can go through to get it set up, anything I can let you know 11:28
gabriel_jetroA step by step draft 11:29
gabriel_jetroAnd send it to me 11:29
gabriel_jetroI think it'll be the best way to learn 11:29
thomasboimahOkay just give me a min. But firstly i need create an account for you on the server and give you sudo previlage11:29
thomasboimah*to11:29
gabriel_jetroOhk ..11:30
gabriel_jetroI'm waiting 11:30
thomasboimahgabriel_jetro, send my your ssh public key privately11:30
gabriel_jetroFor which account?11:30
gabriel_jetroGitHub or gitlab 11:30
thomasboimahYour computer ssh key11:31
gabriel_jetroOhk lemme generate one 11:31
mulbah_Hello everyone11:32
thomasboimahyou can run this command to print it in the terminal; cat .ssh/id_rsa.pub11:32
mulbah_I forgot11:32
mulbah_Sorry Im late I forgot the meeting time11:33
gabriel_jetroMulbah Jeff was asking for you, he said he haven't been seeing you11:33
gabriel_jetroGive me a min thomasboimah 11:33
mulbah_I been attending meetings throughout11:33
mulbah_You haven’t been seeing me in meetings11:34
gabriel_jetroI did 11:34
gabriel_jetroBut Jeff said he 11:34
mulbah_Oh maybe I haven’t been talking in the meeting that much that why11:35
gabriel_jetroSure 11:36
mulbah_thomasboimah: u take a look at it11:38
gabriel_jetroI've sent you the ssh thomasboimah 11:38
thomasboimahWill do today mulbah_, was busy with the task Jeff give me11:39
thomasboimahOkay11:39
mulbah_Okay11:39
thomasboimahgabriel_jetro, what username you will like11:41
gabriel_jetroGabriel: 11:42
thomasboimahokay11:42
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gabriel_jetroACTION waiting for thomasboimah to setup my username 11:48
thomasboimahgabriel_jetro, see if you can ssh into this: ssh gabriel_jetro@webschool.sjcompute.org11:50
thomasboimahsorry11:50
thomasboimahgabriel_jetro, see if you can ssh into this: ssh gabriel@webschool.sjcompute.org11:50
thomasboimahWhen you are in you let me know11:52
gabriel_jetroOhkay 11:52
gabriel_jetroI'm in 11:54
thomasboimahokay11:54
thomasboimahthe task is create a user for jkollie and freena 11:55
thomasboimahand a directory call public_html11:55
gabriel_jetroOkay, how can I go about, have you create the draft?11:56
gabriel_jetroYes I seeing the dir exist already 11:56
thomasboimahseeing what dir exist gabriel_jetro ?11:57
gabriel_jetroThe public_html is a directory in jelkner home dir11:57
gabriel_jetroAnd in it is index.html file 11:58
thomasboimahgabriel_jetro, the goal is to set jkollie and freena up. forget about jelkner11:58
thomasboimahdir11:58
gabriel_jetroSure, I'm only taking a look at it 11:59
thomasboimahso the same way jelkner dir is looking, you are going to do the same for jkollie and freena 11:59
thomasboimahThat was the task11:59
gabriel_jetroOkay 11:59
thomasboimahyou get it?11:59
gabriel_jetroSure 12:00
thomasboimahBut this is something you will need to know gabriel_jetro, I configure the server not to allow password login, so when you are going to create an account for jkollie and freena you will need to add their ssh key so that they can be able to login12:01
thomasboimahSo you first step here is to get jkollie and freena ssh key12:02
thomasboimah*your*12:02
gabriel_jetroOkay are online?12:02
gabriel_jetroSo I can ask them 12:03
thomasboimahjkollie, can you please send you ssh key public key to gabriel_jetro 12:03
thomasboimah*your12:03
jkollieOkay12:04
gabriel_jetroAlone with your email jkollie 12:05
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thomasboimahgabriel_jetro, are you still here12:32
gabriel_jetroYes I'm done 12:34
gabriel_jetrothomasboimah: 12:34
thomasboimahyou set the permission12:35
thomasboimahright?12:35
gabriel_jetroYes12:35
gabriel_jetroCan I cd into it to check it out to confirm?12:36
thomasboimahnext is to create a test file like: index.html and info.php12:36
thomasboimahgabriel_jetro, 12:36
thomasboimahI an not seeing the public_html dir12:37
thomasboimah*am12:37
gabriel_jetroCan you come on WhatsApp so I can send you the picture to see what I did?12:38
thomasboimahokay send it to my orange number12:38
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