IRC log of #jetrowebdev for Thursday, 2026-03-12

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jelknerGood morning dcammue, are you here?11:16
dcammueyes11:25
dcammuehow are you my friend11:25
dcammuejelkner, 11:30
thomasboimahHello everyone!11:33
dcammuehow are you thomasboimah 11:34
thomasboimahGood bro and you?11:34
dcammuefine though11:35
thomasboimahTg11:37
thomasboimahThat's good to know11:37
thomasboimahHow is the Django study?11:37
dcammuecool11:42
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fkoikoiHi jelkner 13:26
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dcammuehow are you fkoikoi__13:55
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jelknerdcammue, i'm back14:28
jelkneri teach all morning, so it is hard for me to pay attention to the chat session14:29
jelknerbut i want to talk with you ASAP!14:29
jelknerdcammue, are you here?14:34
dcammueyes14:51
dcammuebut kindly paying attention to something14:52
dcammuejelkner, 14:52
jelknerthere you are14:54
jelknerdo you have a few minutes?14:54
dcammueyes14:54
jelknerjkollie: thanks for the email!14:54
dcammue+114:54
jelknernice work14:54
jkolliethanks14:54
jelknerok, i need your help dcammue putting a class together14:55
dcammueokay14:55
jelknerwhen i saw several jetro websters independently saying they were studying html, this idea occurred to me14:55
jelknerkendyl needs to learn that too14:56
jelknerand i'm working with her one-on-one now14:56
jelknerthat has a few drawbacks:14:56
jelkner1. she doesn't get to collaborate with other students14:56
jelkner2. it takes a lot of my time but only benefits one student immediately, instead of several14:56
jelknerso, thought i14:57
jelknerwhy not organize a study group to address both problems at once14:57
jelknerit also helps the jetro students (*if they are serious*) have more structure and more guidance in their study14:57
jelknerso the goal of this study group would be to complete an augmented version of our ITD110: Web Page Design I class14:58
jelknerwith the augmented part being that we would learn some php and sqlite in addition to html and css14:59
jelkneri can't have flaky, non-serious students14:59
jelknerif they aren't to show *most* of the time, i don't want them involved14:59
jelknerthat's where you come in dcammue 14:59
jelkneri need your help deciding who from jetro is in15:00
dcammueokay15:00
jelknerwe can even agree that successful progress and completion of the course comes with a stipend15:00
jelknerbut if they fail to show, or to complete the work, they will get no stipend15:01
jelknerwe need to start ASAP15:01
jelknerlike today15:01
jelknerwith others joining by monday at the latest15:01
jelknerif they aren't in by monday, they aren't in15:01
jelknermake sense?15:01
dcammueso, let's see from today class if they can meet with kindyl 15:01
dcammue+115:02
jelknerjkollie: you are in, right?15:02
jelknerand you are here today15:02
jkollie+1 jelkner15:02
jelknerso you can meet with Kendyl15:02
jkolliesure15:02
jelknerwe will work toward this certification, too:15:02
jelknerhttps://jsinstitute.org/wde-exam-syllabus15:02
jelknerdcammue: i want to ask you to administer the stipend too15:03
jelknersince you're a business manager15:03
jelknerand you need to think of this as internal development for Jetro15:04
jelknerso you have the task of managing this on your end15:04
jelkneri'll have the task of developing the curriculum, guiding the class, and reporting progress to you15:05
dcammueokay15:05
jelkneri'll work on a simple rubric15:06
jelknerwith clear expectations and check points that need to be met to earn the stipend15:06
dcammuesweet15:06
jelknermr. business manager, another challenge for you as you learn finance management15:06
jelknerlet's say we have a jetro member who wants to participate15:07
jelknerand they say, like gabriel pointed out, that for them to be successful they need transporation to the jetro office15:07
jelknerthe stipend will be more than enough to cover that15:07
jelknerbut they haven't earned the stipend yet15:08
jelknerso what can we do?15:08
jelknerwhat they need, dcammue, is a personal loan from the co-op15:08
jelknerright?15:08
jelknerto be paid back when they earn their stipend15:08
dcammuehmmm let me think it through a minute15:08
jelknergood practice for a business major like you, right?15:09
jelkneri'm not saying they have to do it15:09
jelkneri'm saying if they say they can't make class because their internest was down or they ran out of minutes15:09
jelkneri don't have patience anymore for that15:09
dcammueyes, is a personal loan but no interest attached15:09
jelknerright, no interest15:10
jelknerwe loan for love, not profit! ;-)15:10
jelknerbut on their honor they need to work really hard to meet the objectives and earn the stipend15:10
dcammueyes15:10
jelknerwe need to step up15:10
jelknerif we want to thrive15:10
jkollie+1 jelkner15:13
dcammueso how will they be working together(with kindyl)? by working on a plan for a non-class day and present the result during class?15:13
jelkner+115:13
jelknerit's Kendyl, btw15:14
jelknere, not i15:14
dcammuesweet, but kendyl can starts a page on her own right?15:14
jelknerhttps://webschool.sjcompute.org/~kthomas/15:15
dcammuesweet15:15
dcammuethat's fine then15:16
jelknergreat, so assemble your team15:16
jelkneri need to know who is doing this15:16
jelknerbesides janet15:16
dcammuegood15:16
jelkneroh, one more thing15:16
jelknerjkollie: what are your transportation needs?15:16
jelkneri need numbers from you15:16
jelknerso we can budget15:16
jkollieokay15:17
jelknerhow much does it cost you to get from your home to the jetro office15:17
jelkneri want to know what transportation you use15:17
jelknerhow long it takes15:17
fkoikoihi jelkner15:17
jelknerand how much it costs15:17
jelknerhello fkoikoi, we were just talking about you15:17
jkollieIt cost 600LD jelkner15:17
jelknerone way?15:17
jelkneror two way?15:17
fkoikoiwhat about me jekner15:18
jkollieto get there and to return home15:18
fkoikoi*jelkner**15:18
fkoikoiACTION goes to red the logs 15:19
jelknerok, that is $3.27 at the current exchange rate15:19
jkollie+1 15:19
jelknerso, we need to add transportation stipends to the Jetro members who are going to be serious and active15:20
jelknerfkoikoi: i was joking a bit15:20
jelknerwe didn't mention you by name15:20
jelknerbut i was thinking of you, fkoikoi, and jkollie as the two jetro members most likely to participate in this new class15:21
dcammuewill your rubric has what the student completed('ALL TASKS COMPLETE) equal to full stipend, and what they did not complete equal to the equivalent stipend?15:22
fkoikoihaha, okay jelkner 15:23
jelknerdcammue: i'm pulling these numbers out of thin air (or out of my butt, as the joke goes ;-)15:23
jelknerbut as we start budgeting15:23
jelknerwe will have real data in our budget15:23
jelknerand begin learning lessons from that data15:23
jelknerand make adjustments as our understanding deepens15:24
jelkneri'm thinking we budget $10 per week for the folks who agree to participate for transportation15:24
jelknerand we need to feed them at the office, too15:24
jelknerand expect them to come in to the jetro office to work15:25
jelkner3 times a week15:25
dcammuesure15:25
jelknersome weeks it will be monday-wednesday-friday15:25
jelknerlike next week15:25
jelknerso that's a good week to start15:25
jelknerother weeks it will be tuesday-thursday15:25
jkollieokay15:27
dcammueso, do you think of adding feeding cost?15:28
dcammueHi guys 15:33
dcammuePenrosian, how are you?15:33
Karaaaaahello dcammue15:33
Penrosiangood15:33
jgurarahi15:34
dcammuePenrosian, thanks for the startup of the todo app15:34
jelknerfkoikoi, jkollie, we are going to move to #sjcompute15:35
jelknerso that we don't step on the toes of the team meeting here15:35
fkoikoiokay15:36
jkollielet's move15:36
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dcammueshould they stay here jelkner?15:37
dcammueKaraaaaa, what the plan for today?15:37
Karaaaaawe are starting to work on our library django application for the new grace hopper center15:38
dcammueokay15:38
Karaaaaawe are making a library system for a technical library that jelkner is starting there to be more clear15:39
dcammueif any task for me then15:39
dcammueor if i may be more clearer on thing if you have the user story(I would like to take a look)15:41
Karaaaaayes, i believe the one he told us yesterday is that he would like to be able to enter his books into the application15:41
dcammueoh! okay15:42
Karaaaaahe hasn't made a feature request/issue because we haven't finished making the repo yet15:42
Karaaaaaso hopefully we'll get that done today15:42
dcammuesweet15:42
Karaaaaadcammue, would you be able to give me your codeberg username so i can add you to the repository15:58
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dcammueKaraaaaa, 16:14
Karaaaaayes16:15
dcammueyou can use dcammue as my username16:15
Karaaaaayes16:15
dcammuesorry i was paying attention to jeff16:15
Karaaaaaadd you to the repo, that's alright16:16
Penrosian_I have made a new merge request to business tracker with the todo app, so as soon as that is merged we can start tracking stuff with that16:27
Karaaaaaright now jgurara is adding the first app for the first user story, the next thing we will add is a way to see a sorted list of all the books16:43
dcammueokay16:44
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