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| gabriel_jetro | Greetings jkollie and dcammue_ | 10:53 |
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| jkollie | Greetings gabriel_jetro | 10:53 |
| dcammue | good morning jkollie and gabriel_jetro | 10:54 |
| jkollie | Good morning dcammue | 10:54 |
| thomasboimah | Hello world! | 10:55 |
| jelkner | Yesterday i worked Daniel to teach the web dev class, and met later with NoVASEN. Today i'll be trying to get my laptop sound working so i can attend the NOVA Web meeting tomorrow from Charlotsville, VA. Blocking on the sound not working properly. | 10:59 |
| thomasboimah | On Wednesday, I audited our Linode to find out what is hosted on each server so we could decide which one to take down to reduce our cost to below $82. I also messaged zOnny to ask him to loop me into the email concerning the Maryland Latino Legislative Caucus, which he of course did. Today I will be backing up our DCD-01 and DCD_TST Linode servers so that we can take them down. No blockers. | 11:00 |
| dcammue | On Wednesday, I did prepared the php class lesson for Thursday, on yesterday, i did teach the class and try helping kthomas to structure her table but we did not complete it. today, i did the semi update of the Jetro Inventory list and upload it to nextcloud. blocking on the peppermint computer serial-number because it doesn't want to turn on. | 11:00 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 11:00 |
| svaye | Yesterday I completed my exams, today i will try completing my assignment. No blockers | 11:00 |
| dcammue | ACTION done | 11:00 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION done | 11:00 |
| jkollie | Yesterday I did my assignment and updated my site and attended class. Today I'll do some practice. No blocker | 11:00 |
| svaye | ACTION done | 11:00 |
| jkollie | ACTION done | 11:00 |
| jelkner | Good morning Jetro! | 11:00 |
| freena | Yesterday, read on links because I was a bit confused about something. Today I plan to continue with my html practice | 11:00 |
| freena | ACTION done | 11:00 |
| gabriel_jetro | Yesterday I was completing the students-testing system, the only blocker I had was electricity problem, I might continue today and give update tomorrow. | 11:00 |
| gabriel_jetro | ACTION done | 11:00 |
| jkollie | Good morning jelkner | 11:01 |
| thomasboimah | Good morning jelkner | 11:01 |
| dcammue | good morning jelkner | 11:01 |
| freena | Good morning jelkner | 11:01 |
| jelkner | dcammue, thomasboimah yesterday's class went *very* well! | 11:01 |
| thomasboimah | That's good to know! We are making progress | 11:02 |
| jelkner | it was a big confidence booster to see the pull request, make it, and have the class lessons in class | 11:02 |
| jelkner | not only a confidence builder, but a stress reducer, and for that, i want to thank you both! | 11:02 |
| jelkner | great news to hear about the machine mapping, thomasboimah | 11:03 |
| jelkner | i was talking to tony about that | 11:03 |
| jelkner | we need to keep weeding. it is a never ending process | 11:03 |
| jelkner | we will need new vms for things in the future | 11:03 |
| jelkner | so we need to learn to effectively retire the ones that we are no longer using | 11:04 |
| thomasboimah | Sure | 11:04 |
| jelkner | bit by bit, thomasboimah, you are getting to understand our entire infrastructure | 11:04 |
| jelkner | that's great | 11:04 |
| thomasboimah | Yep! | 11:04 |
| jelkner | :-) | 11:04 |
| jelkner | ok, i have a favor to ask | 11:05 |
| jelkner | first, a question thomasboimah | 11:05 |
| thomasboimah | Shoot | 11:05 |
| jelkner | how did you get jkollie's sound working for our SJC meeting? | 11:05 |
| jelkner | by the time you finished, it was working nicely | 11:05 |
| jelkner | i'm having the same issues on the laptop i have hear that you were having at first | 11:06 |
| jelkner | sound is bad | 11:06 |
| jelkner | feedback making it garbled | 11:06 |
| jelkner | and impossible to listen to | 11:06 |
| thomasboimah | By the instruction you give me to to look at the right top corner where the speakers sound is adjusted it | 11:06 |
| jelkner | i'll be in Central Virginia tomorrow when we have an important NOVA Web Dev meeting | 11:06 |
| thomasboimah | *button | 11:07 |
| jelkner | button? | 11:07 |
| thomasboimah | Yes | 11:07 |
| jelkner | can you post a link? | 11:07 |
| jelkner | what do you mean? | 11:07 |
| thomasboimah | I mean buttom | 11:08 |
| jelkner | now i'm more confused | 11:08 |
| jelkner | buttom isn't a word | 11:08 |
| jelkner | that i know, anyway | 11:09 |
| gabriel_jetro | Button | 11:09 |
| dcammue | thomasboimah, can i just try to help him a bit? | 11:09 |
| jelkner | please, dcammue | 11:09 |
| thomasboimah | *bottom | 11:10 |
| gabriel_jetro | Button 🔘, he means jelkner | 11:10 |
| thomasboimah | Sure dcammue | 11:10 |
| jelkner | so which button are we talking about | 11:10 |
| dcammue | what operating system you are using first? jelkner | 11:10 |
| jelkner | Linux Mint DE 7 | 11:10 |
| jelkner | same one i'm using on this desktop | 11:11 |
| dcammue | on look for your volume symbol | 11:11 |
| gabriel_jetro | The volume button where you use to adjust it | 11:11 |
| jelkner | on this desktop, the sound works great | 11:11 |
| jelkner | but on my laptop, it doesn't | 11:11 |
| jelkner | so i've been to the sound settings | 11:11 |
| jelkner | it's funny, stereo doesn't work | 11:12 |
| jelkner | i get left sound, but not right sound | 11:12 |
| jelkner | i tried two different head phones | 11:12 |
| jelkner | i'll tell you what, dcammue, will you be in the office for a bit today? | 11:12 |
| jelkner | and can you help me test this? | 11:12 |
| dcammue | okay, i think the best way to treat this is to do it in the jisti meet | 11:12 |
| dcammue | yes i am here | 11:13 |
| jelkner | +1 | 11:13 |
| jelkner | that's what i want to do | 11:13 |
| thomasboimah | By following the instruction you gave me, I looked at the bottom right corner where the speaker sound is adjusted. | 11:13 |
| thomasboimah | Reduce the input and increase the output | 11:13 |
| jelkner | ah, got you | 11:13 |
| jelkner | ok, let me experiment | 11:13 |
| jelkner | and get back to you | 11:13 |
| jelkner | since i have a problem with the stereo | 11:14 |
| jelkner | so there may also be a driver issue | 11:14 |
| jelkner | dcammue, when i'm ready, i'll come back here and ask to try a jitsi meeting | 11:14 |
| jelkner | give me about an hour | 11:14 |
| dcammue | okay | 11:15 |
| dcammue | see you soon | 11:15 |
| freena | ACTION signs off | 11:18 |
| dcammue | freena, | 11:26 |
| jelkner | hello dcammue, i'm back | 11:42 |
| jelkner | i cheated and tried a different laptop, which seems to work better | 11:42 |
| jelkner | now i need to test it | 11:42 |
| jelkner | please let me know when you're available | 11:42 |
| jelkner | dcammue, i'll be checking this channel about every 20 to 30 minutes while i'm doing other things | 11:44 |
| dcammue | i am here | 11:44 |
| jelkner | great | 11:44 |
| jelkner | can we try out jitsi? | 11:45 |
| dcammue | yes | 11:45 |
| jelkner | https://meet.mayfirst.org/novaweb | 11:45 |
| jelkner | i already started the meeting | 11:45 |
| dcammue | okay | 11:46 |
| jelkner | what happened? | 11:48 |
| jelkner | i don't see you in the meeting yet | 11:48 |
| jelkner | video is great | 11:49 |
| jelkner | sound is not | 11:49 |
| jelkner | can you hear me clearly? | 11:49 |
| dcammue | i mute myself before i can hear you | 11:49 |
| jelkner | when you mute yourself, do you hear me clearly? | 11:50 |
| dcammue | when i unmute myself i can not hear you | 11:50 |
| dcammue | yes | 11:50 |
| jelkner | ok, so it may be sound problems on your end | 11:50 |
| dcammue | i can hear you clearly when i mute | 11:50 |
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| thomasboimah | jelkner, did you get you speaker working? | 12:39 |
| thomasboimah | *your* | 12:39 |
| thomasboimah | jelkner, are you still here? | 12:44 |
| jelkner | i'm here now thomasboimah | 13:01 |
| jelkner | i'll be logged in until around 1 pm my time | 13:01 |
| jelkner | 4 more hours | 13:01 |
| thomasboimah | Did you get you your sound working? | 13:01 |
| thomasboimah | Did you get your sound working? | 13:02 |
| jelkner | no, my friend, i cheated! | 13:02 |
| jelkner | i just used a different laptop | 13:02 |
| jelkner | and it works fine | 13:02 |
| jelkner | got a minute | 13:02 |
| jelkner | ? | 13:02 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 13:02 |
| thomasboimah | sure | 13:06 |
| jelkner | sorry, shanun just messaged me | 13:07 |
| jelkner | i can't multitask | 13:07 |
| jelkner | i figured i could get things done if i was home alone | 13:07 |
| jelkner | but you just can't do that in the 21st century! :-( | 13:07 |
| jelkner | lol | 13:07 |
| jelkner | i'll find a way | 13:07 |
| jelkner | ok, so i am waiting for dcammue to send me the inventory spreadsheet | 13:08 |
| jelkner | we are making HUGE progress! | 13:08 |
| thomasboimah | yes! | 13:08 |
| jelkner | so we are ready for the next steps | 13:09 |
| jelkner | Jetro will have more capital assets then NOVA Web | 13:09 |
| jelkner | since to survive in the U.S. at this point | 13:09 |
| jelkner | we can't have an office | 13:09 |
| jelkner | we can't have equipment inventories | 13:09 |
| jelkner | not really | 13:09 |
| jelkner | since we can't have any physical space we control | 13:10 |
| jelkner | it's too expensive here for us to do that | 13:10 |
| jelkner | though we dream we someday will | 13:10 |
| jelkner | but Jetro, on the other hand | 13:10 |
| jelkner | is in a different place | 13:10 |
| jelkner | you already have an office | 13:10 |
| jelkner | you have a generator | 13:10 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 13:10 |
| jelkner | you have hardware | 13:10 |
| jelkner | and i'll be bringing more | 13:11 |
| jelkner | including and inflatable bed ;-) | 13:11 |
| thomasboimah | lol | 13:11 |
| jelkner | which i'll sleep on when i'm there | 13:11 |
| jelkner | but leave with you | 13:11 |
| jelkner | for future guests | 13:11 |
| jelkner | so, let's get that inventory done | 13:11 |
| jelkner | i plan to order the batter for the rugged laptop | 13:12 |
| thomasboimah | I Think dcammue should be done with that by now | 13:12 |
| jelkner | but i won't order anything more until the inventory is ready | 13:12 |
| jelkner | so we can plan before we act | 13:12 |
| jelkner | anyway, back to the sound story | 13:12 |
| jelkner | i'll be bringing 3 wonderful laptops | 13:12 |
| jelkner | they are ASUS Vivibooks | 13:13 |
| jelkner | nice large screens | 13:13 |
| jelkner | *very* performant | 13:13 |
| jelkner | but saddly, it seems sound input is not working well | 13:13 |
| jelkner | i don't have time to fix that today | 13:14 |
| jelkner | we can fix it when i'm there | 13:14 |
| jelkner | together | 13:14 |
| thomasboimah | sure | 13:14 |
| jelkner | one of those is the one i'll use as my work device while i'm there | 13:14 |
| jelkner | then i will leave it | 13:14 |
| jelkner | so i needed some laptop i could use with me when i'm in Spain and L.A. after i leave | 13:15 |
| jelkner | i wanted one that was usable, but not as good as the ones i'll leave there | 13:15 |
| jelkner | so i have a Dell Latitude 3190 | 13:15 |
| jelkner | i believe you have a few of them there | 13:15 |
| thomasboimah | yeah | 13:16 |
| jelkner | they are small | 13:16 |
| jelkner | but they work | 13:16 |
| jelkner | i'll have fun showing you what i've done with mine | 13:16 |
| jelkner | they have touch screens | 13:16 |
| thomasboimah | Nice! | 13:16 |
| jelkner | so i have Debian 13 (Trixie) installed | 13:16 |
| jelkner | with 2 different desktop environments | 13:16 |
| jelkner | Cinnamon | 13:17 |
| jelkner | which i use when i'm working with the keyboard (most of the time) | 13:17 |
| jelkner | and Phosh | 13:17 |
| jelkner | which turns it into a touchscreen friendly tablet | 13:17 |
| jelkner | very cool | 13:17 |
| jelkner | anyway, on that little laptop | 13:17 |
| jelkner | the sound works fine | 13:17 |
| jelkner | so i'll bring that one with me tomorrow | 13:18 |
| jelkner | Rachel helped me test it | 13:18 |
| jelkner | and it works great | 13:18 |
| jelkner | Can i ask you another favor? | 13:18 |
| thomasboimah | sure, my friend | 13:18 |
| jelkner | Did you see the emails from May First about the annual meeting? | 13:18 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 13:19 |
| jelkner | Can you please coordinate with Janet so that she can attend representing SJC, and someone else (could be you or Daniel) can attend representing Jetro? | 13:19 |
| jelkner | The meeting is on the NOVA Web calendar already | 13:20 |
| jelkner | Rachel is going to attend representing NOVA Web | 13:20 |
| jelkner | i have a personal membership | 13:20 |
| thomasboimah | OKay | 13:20 |
| jelkner | so i'll attend using that | 13:20 |
| jelkner | that leaves me with only one other group to organize, SECOSOL | 13:21 |
| jelkner | is that ok? | 13:21 |
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| thomasboimah | yes | 13:21 |
| jelkner | thank you! | 13:21 |
| thomasboimah | sure | 13:21 |
| jelkner | ok, i'm going to work on my huge stack of emails now | 13:21 |
| thomasboimah | Alright | 13:22 |
| jelkner | i'll stay connected, but my focus will be elsewhere | 13:22 |
| jelkner | you can ping me here | 13:22 |
| thomasboimah | got you | 13:22 |
| jelkner | since i'll check it every 30 minutes or so | 13:22 |
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| thomasboimah | dcammue_, | 14:19 |
| dcammue | yes | 14:19 |
| thomasboimah | read the log | 14:19 |
| dcammue | okay | 14:19 |
| thomasboimah | dcammue, are you done | 14:27 |
| thomasboimah | Their will be no need for use buy, bed again since Jeff said that he will be coming with inflatable bed: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-e&hs=hPgp&sca_esv=f6dab0cbe71090ff&channel=entpr&sxsrf=ANbL-n5RRRq00MJ2yjSW9rmiWcxcu8y6qQ:1775831287410&udm=2&fbs=ADc_l-aN0CWEZBOHjofHoaMMDiKpaEWjvZ2Py1XXV8d8KvlI3vxYI1tojT_24H7Q4iMwclSqIfnTP5J_a1_YHnhrZjiiTJD_2pug00kYgkdnJCgVeWKMtN3ZYjU-fsD1M3d2Dmx5u48V5sGy6qK2CDGNRJSr_g3Ly8SEZUYaAfN5KlOZfCQHC | 14:28 |
| thomasboimah | eGUbjQAGtFkwtOWlsXfajxZ&q=inflatable+bed&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjLwsSIv-OTAxU-V0EAHdJVLZ8QtKgLegQIDBAB&biw=1366&bih=623&dpr=1 | 14:28 |
| thomasboimah | https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https%3A%2F%2Factiveera.com%2Fproducts%2Fdouble-size-comfort-air-bed&ved=0CBYQjRxqFwoTCIin1Iu_45MDFQAAAAAdAAAAABAI&opi=89978449 | 14:29 |
| dcammue | i get it thomasboimah | 14:30 |
| thomasboimah | Okay | 14:30 |
| dcammue | but the inventory list is updated | 14:30 |
| thomasboimah | Can you email it to him? | 14:30 |
| dcammue | so he can just get tot from the cloud | 14:30 |
| dcammue | okay | 14:30 |
| dcammue | thanks for letting me know | 14:31 |
| thomasboimah | got you | 14:31 |
| dcammue | thomasboimah, /me done | 14:58 |
| dcammue | thomasboimah, i am done | 14:58 |
| thomasboimah | thanks bro | 14:58 |
| dcammue | sending the mail | 14:58 |
| jelkner | hello dcammue | 15:16 |
| jelkner | are you here? | 15:16 |
| jelkner | dcammue, let me know when you see this | 15:18 |
| dcammue | yes | 15:19 |
| jelkner | There you are! | 15:19 |
| dcammue | jelkner, | 15:19 |
| dcammue | i just emailed you | 15:19 |
| dcammue | the inventory list | 15:19 |
| jelkner | yes, i know | 15:19 |
| jelkner | that's why i'm here ;-) | 15:20 |
| dcammue | okay | 15:20 |
| jelkner | you wrote "hope you are doing super great!" | 15:20 |
| dcammue | yes! | 15:20 |
| jelkner | i was about to write back, "I am now, after getting this email!" ;-) | 15:20 |
| jelkner | but i thought irc would be better | 15:20 |
| jelkner | since we have work to do | 15:21 |
| jelkner | the sheet labeled "Liberia Lab List 2" is no longer valid, right? | 15:21 |
| jelkner | since that stuff was all left with MCSS | 15:21 |
| dcammue | yes | 15:21 |
| dcammue | it is | 15:22 |
| jelkner | yes it is what? | 15:22 |
| jelkner | now i'm confused | 15:22 |
| jelkner | you have that equipment, or don't you? | 15:22 |
| dcammue | it is no longer valid | 15:22 |
| jelkner | Yes, we have no bananas! ;-) | 15:22 |
| jelkner | lol | 15:22 |
| jelkner | ok, got it | 15:22 |
| dcammue | the equipment i have are those on the list | 15:22 |
| jelkner | which list | 15:24 |
| jelkner | i can't seem to delete a sheet | 15:25 |
| jelkner | i'll need to download and re-upload i think | 15:25 |
| jelkner | i though OnlyOffice let you edit files through the browser | 15:25 |
| jelkner | but it isn't working for me | 15:25 |
| jelkner | Oh, i don't have edit rights | 15:26 |
| jelkner | which directory is this located in? | 15:26 |
| jelkner | dcammue, let's ask thomasboimah to help us with access | 15:26 |
| jelkner | i want to be able to edit it with you | 15:26 |
| jelkner | i can't | 15:26 |
| thomasboimah | dcammue, give him editable access on Nextcloud | 15:27 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, did you see my email to Dilcia and Leslie? | 15:29 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 15:29 |
| jelkner | I bcc'd Jamie | 15:29 |
| jelkner | he already emailed me back | 15:29 |
| jelkner | i told him i was a failure as an organizer last year | 15:29 |
| thomasboimah | April 30 will be the annual meeting | 15:29 |
| jelkner | please register, my friend | 15:29 |
| jelkner | and ask Janet to register too | 15:30 |
| thomasboimah | Will do | 15:30 |
| jelkner | thanks | 15:30 |
| jelkner | last year i was at the meeting representing 5 different memberships | 15:30 |
| jelkner | that's TERRIBLE! | 15:30 |
| jelkner | there is no democracy in that | 15:30 |
| jelkner | this year i only want to be there representing my personal membership | 15:31 |
| dcammue | jelkner, the inventory list is the same list you shared with me before, and i just cleaned the sheet | 15:31 |
| jelkner | and work to recruit folks from each of the organizations to attend | 15:31 |
| jelkner | got you | 15:31 |
| jelkner | ahh, the url is read only | 15:31 |
| jelkner | that makes sense | 15:31 |
| dcammue | yes | 15:31 |
| jelkner | hold on | 15:31 |
| jelkner | still here? | 15:47 |
| jelkner | dcammue, are you here? | 15:47 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, are you here? | 15:49 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 15:49 |
| jelkner | are you in the office with dcammue? | 15:49 |
| jelkner | if not, i need to leave soon for my dental appointment | 15:49 |
| thomasboimah | No | 15:50 |
| jelkner | can you please call him later and ask him to look at these irc logs? | 15:50 |
| jelkner | i just did the following: | 15:50 |
| thomasboimah | sure let me call him now | 15:50 |
| jelkner | 1. copied the old inventory sheet from the LiberiaProject directory to the JetroWeb one | 15:50 |
| jelkner | and renamed it simply Inventory 2026 | 15:51 |
| jelkner | it is here: | 15:51 |
| dcammue | yes | 15:51 |
| jelkner | https://share.mayfirst.org/apps/files/files/42612523?dir=/SocialJusticeComputing/JetroWeb&openfile=true | 15:51 |
| jelkner | i think that is an edit link | 15:51 |
| jelkner | then i cleaned it up | 15:51 |
| jelkner | i made the font consistent | 15:51 |
| jelkner | removed old formatting | 15:51 |
| jelkner | dcammue, here's another skill for you to learn, spreadsheets | 15:51 |
| jelkner | very useful | 15:52 |
| thomasboimah | The link is not showing | 15:52 |
| dcammue | oaky | 15:52 |
| jelkner | i deleted the sheet of MCSS things | 15:52 |
| jelkner | hmmm... | 15:52 |
| jelkner | let's figure that out before i go | 15:52 |
| jelkner | ahh, dcammue can edit | 15:53 |
| jelkner | not thomasboimah | 15:53 |
| jelkner | i just fixed that | 15:54 |
| jelkner | try again thomasboimah | 15:54 |
| thomasboimah | now it work | 15:54 |
| jelkner | of course it does ;-) | 15:54 |
| jelkner | ok so take a look | 15:55 |
| jelkner | there are still two sheets | 15:55 |
| jelkner | we only want one for now | 15:55 |
| jelkner | so if there are any items from Assorted ICT resources that you still have | 15:55 |
| jelkner | move them to the Inventory sheet | 15:56 |
| jelkner | dcammue, see how i made it prettier | 15:56 |
| jelkner | ? | 15:56 |
| jelkner | it looked terrible! | 15:56 |
| jelkner | with different rows having different fonts | 15:56 |
| jelkner | a pain to look at | 15:56 |
| jelkner | now it's pretty | 15:56 |
| jelkner | i added a new column | 15:56 |
| jelkner | Item | 15:56 |
| dcammue | yes | 15:57 |
| jelkner | since we are going to put all physical assets on a single sheet | 15:57 |
| jelkner | can you take care of removing the other sheet after transferring any items you still have dcammue? | 15:57 |
| jelkner | this is all good | 15:58 |
| jelkner | ask thomasboimah if you need help dcammue | 15:58 |
| jelkner | since he now has access | 15:58 |
| jelkner | and see if you can keep it pretty | 15:58 |
| dcammue | okay | 15:58 |
| jelkner | when you're done, we should meet and go over it | 15:58 |
| jelkner | i want to ask thomasboimah questions too | 15:58 |
| jelkner | like are you really still running Peppermint 11? | 15:58 |
| jelkner | If Mulbah is still with us | 15:59 |
| jelkner | we should get him working on updating all the laptops that work | 15:59 |
| jelkner | and now that you have so much better skills | 15:59 |
| jelkner | we should talk about software plans for them | 15:59 |
| jelkner | Which OS to put on them | 16:00 |
| thomasboimah | okay | 16:00 |
| dcammue | jelkner, | 16:00 |
| jelkner | dcammue, | 16:00 |
| dcammue | is this the new list you make | 16:00 |
| jelkner | i don't understand | 16:01 |
| dcammue | the new machines list | 16:01 |
| jelkner | this is a copy of what you sent me | 16:01 |
| dcammue | i am see Asus | 16:01 |
| dcammue | the second sheet i mean | 16:01 |
| jelkner | that is a router that i brought with me | 16:02 |
| jelkner | i think last time | 16:02 |
| jelkner | if you don't have it | 16:02 |
| jelkner | delete it | 16:02 |
| jelkner | none of this is new | 16:02 |
| jelkner | i will add new items when you get the list up to date | 16:02 |
| dcammue | we have the projector | 16:02 |
| jelkner | Add that too | 16:03 |
| jelkner | put everything you have on the single sheet | 16:03 |
| jelkner | let's keep laptops at the top | 16:03 |
| jelkner | and everything else below | 16:03 |
| dcammue | okay | 16:03 |
| jelkner | this is a good chance for you to learn a bit about spreadsheets dcammue | 16:03 |
| dcammue | sweet arrangement | 16:04 |
| dcammue | yeah | 16:04 |
| jelkner | What is up with Mulbah? | 16:04 |
| jelkner | Do you think he would like to earn a few dollars? | 16:05 |
| jelkner | I don't see him very often | 16:05 |
| jelkner | i'm planning on learning a lot more about what is going on with each of Jetro's members while i'm there ;-) | 16:05 |
| jelkner | Anyway, we could use someone to update the laptops | 16:06 |
| jelkner | install a modern OS | 16:06 |
| jelkner | after we decide on a strategy | 16:06 |
| jelkner | lately, i like to use Linux Mint DE 7 for more powerful machines | 16:06 |
| jelkner | and Peppermint OS (which is now Debian based too), for older ones | 16:07 |
| jelkner | that keeps the number of different desktop environments we need to support to just 2 | 16:07 |
| jelkner | Right now the list is all over the place | 16:07 |
| jelkner | that makes things like learning to fix sound problems harder | 16:07 |
| jelkner | and takes up time | 16:08 |
| jelkner | now that we're in business for real | 16:08 |
| jelkner | we need to be as efficient as we can be! | 16:08 |
| jelkner | ok, anything else for me before i go? | 16:08 |
| jelkner | dcammue, you didn't answer my question about Mulbah | 16:09 |
| jelkner | i'll ask again later | 16:09 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, i don't know what happened to dcammue | 16:09 |
| jelkner | anything for me before i go? | 16:09 |
| dcammue | i am here | 16:09 |
| jelkner | why aren't you answering my questions then? | 16:10 |
| jelkner | i was confused | 16:10 |
| jelkner | i asked direct questions | 16:10 |
| dcammue | i do not know mulbah problem jelkner, he doesn | 16:10 |
| dcammue | he doesn't tell us everything about himself | 16:10 |
| jelkner | ok, dcammue | 16:11 |
| dcammue | sometime we see him and sometime we don't | 16:11 |
| jelkner | this is a publically logged chat | 16:11 |
| jelkner | so we don't want to get into people's personal business here | 16:11 |
| dcammue | so he is missing in action | 16:11 |
| jelkner | let me just say this in general | 16:11 |
| jelkner | which *does* belong in the chat | 16:11 |
| jelkner | part of making Jetro Web work as a true cooperative | 16:12 |
| jelkner | will be to keep an active and committed membership | 16:12 |
| jelkner | people will come and go | 16:12 |
| jelkner | it is wonderful that you 7 have been together for 4 years! | 16:12 |
| jelkner | it has been an incredible joy and an incredible inspiration | 16:12 |
| jelkner | but it won't last forever | 16:13 |
| jelkner | you are in your mid 20s now | 16:13 |
| jelkner | some of you will move on to other things | 16:13 |
| jelkner | and if your business is going to make it | 16:13 |
| jelkner | you will learn to recruit new members to your Jetro family | 16:13 |
| jelkner | like the designers we started talking about | 16:13 |
| jelkner | you can what the process we are having with SJC | 16:14 |
| jelkner | i am actively working to purge the "dead wood" from our organization | 16:14 |
| jelkner | i try to be friendly, but firm (or at least persistent ;-) | 16:14 |
| jelkner | and sometimes i just nag :-( | 16:15 |
| jelkner | lol | 16:15 |
| dcammue | :-) | 16:15 |
| jelkner | but the point is | 16:15 |
| jelkner | i am actively trying to get people who are not in a place in their lives where they can actively participate | 16:15 |
| jelkner | to recognize that and move on | 16:15 |
| jelkner | if they leave on good terms | 16:15 |
| jelkner | they can always come back later | 16:15 |
| jelkner | but for now, the mature thing to do is recognize you are not in a place where you can give the organization (and thus your comrades), the support it (and they) need(s) | 16:16 |
| jelkner | so resign | 16:16 |
| jelkner | and come back later | 16:16 |
| jelkner | zOnny ran NOVA Web | 16:17 |
| jelkner | poor man was doing it alone for about a year | 16:17 |
| jelkner | he worked so hard | 16:17 |
| jelkner | it broke my heart that we couldn't find enough work to make it go | 16:17 |
| jelkner | so he moved on | 16:17 |
| jelkner | now, and you all know how much joy that brought me, he came back | 16:18 |
| jelkner | anyway, we have so much to do | 16:18 |
| jelkner | you at Jetro need to figure out who's on board | 16:18 |
| jelkner | if mulbah isn't interested, perhaps gabriel is | 16:18 |
| jelkner | basically, what i am hoping we can do next, after we have the inventory list up to date | 16:19 |
| jelkner | is analyze it and work to keep the equipment maintained | 16:19 |
| jelkner | a great task would be to update the OSs on the laptops | 16:20 |
| jelkner | we can agree on a fixed number of hours we are willing to pay for that task | 16:20 |
| jelkner | and get someone with the skills to do it | 16:20 |
| jelkner | could be any Jetro member you two think can do it | 16:20 |
| jelkner | who is interested | 16:20 |
| dcammue | It has been and will always be a joy working with comrade Jeff!! :-) | 16:21 |
| jelkner | Janet, Freena, Shallon? | 16:21 |
| jelkner | thanks dcammue | 16:21 |
| jelkner | likewise! | 16:21 |
| jelkner | ok i really have to go | 16:21 |
| dcammue | i can upgrade the laptop here jelkner | 16:21 |
| jelkner | NO, my dear friend! | 16:21 |
| dcammue | so maybe there is special way | 16:21 |
| jelkner | you and thomasboimah are the full time people | 16:21 |
| jelkner | your task is to grow Jetro's power | 16:21 |
| jelkner | if you do everything, you are failing to grow Jetro's power | 16:22 |
| dcammue | not what i mean | 16:22 |
| jelkner | ok, i'll shut up | 16:22 |
| dcammue | i have been upgrading these laptops | 16:22 |
| jelkner | oh, you have? | 16:22 |
| dcammue | yes | 16:22 |
| jelkner | well that isn't reflected on the inventory list ;-) | 16:22 |
| dcammue | so is there a way different to do it | 16:22 |
| jelkner | i think we probably want fresh installs on most of these machines | 16:23 |
| jelkner | our goal is to learn to plan | 16:23 |
| jelkner | once we have an accurate list | 16:23 |
| jelkner | we need to figure out who is using what | 16:23 |
| dcammue | okay, got you too. so I shut up | 16:23 |
| jelkner | lol | 16:23 |
| jelkner | anyway, ask one of the active members if they want this task | 16:24 |
| jelkner | then we can guide them on through it | 16:24 |
| dcammue | okay | 16:24 |
| jelkner | i won't make the weekend stand ups | 16:24 |
| jelkner | since i'll be traveling | 16:24 |
| jelkner | but i will be there Monday at the regular time | 16:24 |
| dcammue | this could be a best practice on BT | 16:25 |
| dcammue | don't you think | 16:25 |
| dcammue | ? | 16:25 |
| jelkner | YES! | 16:25 |
| jelkner | a perfect opportunity | 16:25 |
| jelkner | great thinking | 16:25 |
| jelkner | ok, see you two on Monday | 16:25 |
| dcammue | okay | 16:25 |
| dcammue | thanks | 16:25 |
| jelkner | have a great weekend | 16:25 |
| dcammue | you too | 16:25 |
| thomasboimah | Okay you too save travel | 16:26 |
| jelkner | thanks | 16:26 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off | 16:26 |
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