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| jelkner | Good morning, mjsir911, where is remindBot this morning? | 08:10 |
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| mjsir911 | morning | 08:10 |
| * jelkner clocksin | 08:10 | |
| mjsir911 | I have no idea | 08:10 |
| * jelkner working on curriculum | 08:10 | |
| mjsir911 | ... I'll get on it | 08:10 |
| jelkner | thnx! | 08:10 |
| jelkner | btw. We had a CS staff meeting yesterday that was *very* interesting! | 08:11 |
| jelkner | It was from these folks - https://onion.io/ | 08:11 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist is going to like this, i think | 08:12 |
| mjsir911 | I can't ssh into webfaction | 08:13 |
| mjsir911 | wait nm | 08:14 |
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| remindBot | I am here to remind you of things at 19:00 on tuesdays. Use me by typing in `!remind <msg>` | 08:16 |
| mjsir911 | now hosted on webfaction | 08:16 |
| mjsir911 | oops | 08:17 |
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| remindBot | I am here to remind you of things at 19:00 on tuesdays. Use me by typing in `!remind <msg>` | 08:17 |
| mjsir911 | !remind Talk about /me clockin /me clockout and ask for protocol for recording project worked on | 08:17 |
| remindBot | will print Talk about /me clockin /me clockout and ask for protocol for recording project worked on at 2017-05-09 19:00:00 | 08:17 |
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| mjsir911 | welcome zOnny | 08:19 |
| zOnny | @mjsir911 good morning. :) | 08:22 |
| jelkner | z0nny, on irc, you don't need the @mjsir911, just mjsir911 will do | 08:28 |
| jelkner | and good morning to you! | 08:28 |
| zOnny | jelkner Ok! thanks! | 08:31 |
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| jelkner | !remind Establish NOVA Webster style guidelines for HTML templates | 10:56 |
| remindBot | will print Establish NOVA Webster style guidelines for HTML templates at 2017-05-09 19:00:00 | 10:56 |
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| * mr_german clockin | 11:24 | |
| * mr_german working on NOVA web portfolio | 11:35 | |
| jelkner | mr_german, we need your uncle to help get our html standards settled | 11:41 |
| jelkner | this next few weeks will be the time to do that. | 11:42 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, just replied (dumb reply btw) to your email | 11:42 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, speaking of uncles... | 11:42 |
| mr_german | jelkner, ok | 11:42 |
| replaceafill | my niece contacted me yesterday | 11:42 |
| replaceafill | she wanted me to show you guys this: | 11:42 |
| replaceafill | http://nataliacerna.wixsite.com/freelance | 11:43 |
| replaceafill | if i keep bringing more talented relatives to this i should just probably make my own company /sarcasm | 11:43 |
| replaceafill | :D | 11:43 |
| jelkner | Dude, you *are* making your own company! ;-) | 11:44 |
| jelkner | Nice work. Now we need to know what she charges. | 11:44 |
| jelkner | We need a graphics person badly. | 11:44 |
| replaceafill | how much do you usually pay your students for this kind of work? | 11:45 |
| jelkner | Can we ask her if she can do the two (or perhaps three) banner images for Celina and Elizabeth's websites? | 11:45 |
| replaceafill | 5, 10, 20? | 11:45 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sure | 11:45 |
| replaceafill | i'll call her and ask | 11:45 |
| jelkner | great! | 11:45 |
| jelkner | does mr_german know her? | 11:46 |
| jelkner | i usually pay $20 for someone like daniella that has real skills | 11:46 |
| replaceafill | yes, they're cousins | 11:46 |
| jelkner | $10 is only for learners, not doers. | 11:46 |
| jelkner | sweet | 11:46 |
| jelkner | let's see if we can recruit her! | 11:46 |
| mr_german | ;-) | 11:47 |
| replaceafill | in fact, mr_german is selling NOVA around | 11:47 |
| replaceafill | recruiting actually | 11:47 |
| replaceafill | :) | 11:47 |
| jelkner | beautiful | 11:47 |
| jelkner | now we need to tighten our skills a bit more, get our work flow down smoothly, and market the hell out of ourselves! | 11:47 |
| jelkner | that's the mission of this Summer | 11:48 |
| replaceafill | indeed | 11:48 |
| mr_german | jelkner, sorry If I don't respond immediately, I'm working on our portfolio | 11:50 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, we can talk a bit more next week, but i'm not a fan of the clockin mechanism :( | 11:51 |
| replaceafill | imho it's better to educate developers to track their time using whatever method is more convenient for them, i use a simple text file | 11:51 |
| replaceafill | + JIRA tempo plugin | 11:52 |
| * mr_german is away from keyboard. | 11:54 | |
| jelkner | replaceafill, i'm just trying to make things easy, and to accomplish several things at once. | 11:58 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i know | 11:59 |
| jelkner | i need to know when mr_german generally works, so i can collaborate with him | 11:59 |
| jelkner | having those of us working together in the habit of logging on here will be a huge help | 11:59 |
| jelkner | so we don't have to go looking for each other. | 11:59 |
| jelkner | we know where to find each other quickly | 12:00 |
| jelkner | the fact is most of us are not tracking our hours | 12:00 |
| jelkner | mr_german is, but the rest are not | 12:00 |
| replaceafill | sure | 12:00 |
| jelkner | i don't have the time (like you have with him) to watch over them and make sure they are tracking their hours | 12:01 |
| replaceafill | i don't do it anymore | 12:01 |
| replaceafill | he's on autopilot about that | 12:01 |
| jelkner | if they do it here, it is super light weight for me, and transparent to all of us | 12:01 |
| jelkner | so we can learn from each other | 12:01 |
| replaceafill | he has seen the benefit already | 12:01 |
| jelkner | and the cost is near zero | 12:02 |
| jelkner | so what's the downside? | 12:02 |
| jelkner | btw. i will fix the web template to include your suggestions | 12:02 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, my point is that you can't rely on an automatic tool and expect accuracy | 12:02 |
| replaceafill | typos happen, people forget doing things, etc | 12:02 |
| jelkner | fair enough, but right now we got almost nothing | 12:02 |
| jelkner | it's got to be better than that | 12:03 |
| jelkner | and it really isn't an automatic tool | 12:03 |
| replaceafill | we need a "manager" | 12:03 |
| replaceafill | i think | 12:03 |
| replaceafill | someone who's on top of things like that | 12:03 |
| jelkner | well we can't afford one | 12:03 |
| jelkner | so let's do the best we can for now | 12:03 |
| replaceafill | eventually one of us will become one | 12:03 |
| replaceafill | ok | 12:03 |
| jelkner | definitely | 12:03 |
| replaceafill | imho if mr_german method is working he should not replace it | 12:04 |
| replaceafill | try both maybe | 12:04 |
| jelkner | both is good | 12:04 |
| jelkner | i agree | 12:04 |
| jelkner | again, this one has near zero cost | 12:04 |
| jelkner | since he needs to be here anyway | 12:05 |
| jelkner | if he has another method he is using that works, he can keep doing that | 12:05 |
| jelkner | that will put him in the best position to evaluate both methods and make recommendations to the rest of us | 12:05 |
| jelkner | we just learning at this point | 12:06 |
| jelkner | being the very young enterprise that we are | 12:06 |
| jelkner | over time, i'm sure we will settle down on some agreed upon best practices and change will then proceed more slowly | 12:06 |
| replaceafill | sure | 12:06 |
| jelkner | in the mean time, i am trying my best to be the unpaid manager we need | 12:07 |
| jelkner | this will help me | 12:07 |
| replaceafill | :) | 12:07 |
| replaceafill | i'll try to keep my mouth shout ;) | 12:08 |
| jelkner | not at all, my good friend | 12:08 |
| jelkner | we are a cooperative | 12:08 |
| jelkner | this is how we work things out | 12:08 |
| jelkner | thanks! | 12:08 |
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| ubuntourist | Only on for a short time. I'm going to be running off to lunch and HacDC soon. | 12:45 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, you can imagine how excited i was by the staff meeting yesterday! | 12:47 |
| jelkner | let's see where it goes | 12:47 |
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| jelkner | Muy bien, vamos a tener dos Cernas ;-) | 14:24 |
| mr_german | I'm Cerna too! | 14:24 |
| jelkner | Really, mr_german? | 14:42 |
| jelkner | I have you listed with a different last name, Fernando | 14:43 |
| jelkner | My contact info is wrong I guess | 14:43 |
| jelkner | more importantly at the moment, mr_german, replaceafill, i just shared https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J44Bc-zivTde0vRw7fXC3pVmuuThhrKzTX7ExxwP2Q4/edit#heading=h.fs4h37vr134r with natalia | 14:44 |
| jelkner | I'm assuming she doesn't read English? | 14:45 |
| jelkner | If not, can you two please be responsible for presenting the problem to her so she can understand it. | 14:45 |
| mr_german | jelkner, she can speak and read english | 14:45 |
| jelkner | ok, still, it may be good to touch base with her to make sure she knows what we need | 14:46 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i talked to her on the phone this morning and explained it | 14:46 |
| replaceafill | hopefully we'll see her reply soon | 14:47 |
| jelkner | i think for Celina's site, we just need to take that Capitol image and crop it into three different images (moving the Dome to the left or right and away from the top of her head! ;-) | 14:47 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, i did see her reply | 14:47 |
| mr_german | jelkner, she coming right now to my house | 14:48 |
| mr_german | we going to talk about this | 14:48 |
| jelkner | she didn't "reply to all" | 14:48 |
| mr_german | we are* | 14:48 |
| jelkner | folks need to learn to do that | 14:48 |
| jelkner | i can forward it to you | 14:48 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ah crap | 14:48 |
| replaceafill | i forgot to insist on that | 14:48 |
| replaceafill | i will next time :) | 14:48 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, please fwd it | 14:48 |
| jelkner | it's ok, replaceafill, we are all learning! ;-) | 14:49 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, please remember her about reply all | 14:49 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, ok! | 14:49 |
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| jelkner | mr_german, one step at a time, but irc comes at some point ;-) | 14:51 |
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| mr_german | jelkner, I just talked with Natalia about the header for Celina and Elizabeth | 15:19 |
| mr_german | jelkner, I'll send her the images | 15:19 |
| mr_german | jelkner, and she'll work on that! | 15:19 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, could you please send her the link to the IRC logs? | 15:20 |
| mr_german | jelkner, Sure! | 15:20 |
| replaceafill | and explain her to review them regularly to see our converstaions | 15:20 |
| mr_german | Ok | 15:20 |
| replaceafill | i'm not jelkner! >:( | 15:20 |
| replaceafill | i wish i was 0 :) | 15:21 |
| jelkner | and my biggest, deepest aspiration is to be replaceafill! ;-) | 15:21 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, Sorry my bad | 15:21 |
| mr_german | I told her to do "reply all" in all the messages | 15:25 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, thanks! | 15:32 |
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| jelkner | mr_german, what is your github user? | 17:03 |
| mr_german | jelkner, GFbot | 17:04 |
| jelkner | i am trying to assign an issue to you | 17:04 |
| mr_german | jelkner, | 17:14 |
| jelkner | i just assigned the issue to you | 17:14 |
| jelkner | and we have another another task | 17:14 |
| mr_german | jelkner, I think you created the issue on the wrong repository? | 17:14 |
| mr_german | jelkner, this is our website repository : https://github.com/novawebdevelopment/Website | 17:15 |
| mr_german | or I'm wrong? | 17:15 |
| jelkner | no, you're right | 17:16 |
| jelkner | mjsir911 just told me | 17:16 |
| jelkner | i'm fixing it | 17:16 |
| mr_german | jelkner, ok | 17:16 |
| jelkner | Done. | 17:18 |
| jelkner | mr_german, stay tuned for an email. | 17:18 |
| mr_german | jelkner, Ok I'll work on that tonight | 17:20 |
| jelkner | we need a good spanish translation as well | 17:26 |
| jelkner | email sent | 17:26 |
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| jelkner | btw. I made another commit to bring the templates to replaceafill's standards | 17:43 |
| replaceafill | replaceafill's standards! pffft | 17:56 |
| replaceafill | :D | 17:56 |
| replaceafill | i wish replaceafill had some standards... | 17:56 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, thanks for introducing Natalia to Celina | 17:57 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, btw, who's taking care of creating Celina's new email? | 17:57 |
| jelkner | i was waiting for ubuntourist to weigh-in on that, since he is the one who helped mjsir911 get this to work with our @novawebdevelopment.org email addresses | 17:59 |
| replaceafill | ah you're thinking of using the same approach | 18:00 |
| replaceafill | ok | 18:00 |
| jelkner | remember, replaceafill, i'm just the unpaid manager. you and ubuntourist are the ones with the skills | 18:01 |
| replaceafill | with the unpaid skills? :D | 18:01 |
| jelkner | we need to teach mjsir911 and amanuel as well | 18:01 |
| jelkner | lol | 18:01 |
| replaceafill | her domain is not resolved by webfaction though | 18:01 |
| replaceafill | (it seems) | 18:01 |
| jelkner | i purchased the dns | 18:02 |
| jelkner | so i have that on tierranet | 18:02 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 18:02 |
| jelkner | and so do you all, since i've shared that account with everyont | 18:02 |
| jelkner | s/everyone/everyont | 18:03 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, seems possible https://www.tierra.net/faq/?#EQ1 | 18:06 |
| jelkner | This is a good night for this, since mattva01 is here | 18:06 |
| replaceafill | ggrr wrong link | 18:06 |
| jelkner | ? | 18:06 |
| replaceafill | i'm reading "What email services are offered by TierraNet?" | 18:07 |
| replaceafill | "Email Forward: Also known as an email alias, email forwards allow you to create an email address such as yourchoice@yourdomain.com and have email sent to that address instantly forward to a destination of your choice. This destination can be any valid email address, whether it be an account at TierraNet, an account at your ISP, etc. The sender will not know that the email is being forwarded." | 18:07 |
| replaceafill | so maybe it can be done there too | 18:07 |
| jelkner | check out elkner.net | 18:07 |
| replaceafill | you're telling me that you're WAY too busy? | 18:08 |
| replaceafill | :D | 18:08 |
| mjsir911 | It will definitely work on teirranet, we have the same setup as our website, novawebdevelopment.org | 18:08 |
| jelkner | yes | 18:08 |
| jelkner | we can assign this to mjsir911, who can ask his mentor | 18:08 |
| replaceafill | cool | 18:08 |
| jelkner | so you don't have to worry about it, replaceafill | 18:09 |
| jelkner | i wasn't trying to dump it on you | 18:09 |
| replaceafill | sure | 18:09 |
| * mr_german working on celina's page header with Natalia | 18:13 | |
| mr_german | jelkner, do you want a slideshow with CSS for our portfolio? | 18:16 |
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| * mr_german checkin | 19:11 | |
| mr_german | jelkner, are you around? | 19:12 |
| jelkner | i am | 19:13 |
| jelkner | but i'm in my geek meetup | 19:13 |
| mr_german | jelkner, I'll try to get both sites ready, and then I'll work on our portfolio | 19:38 |
| mr_german | jelkner, sounds good for you? | 19:38 |
| jelkner | i'm back | 19:38 |
| mr_german | Welcome back , jelkner ;-) | 19:38 |
| jelkner | i'm a bit confused by natalia's email | 19:39 |
| jelkner | let's talk a bit about that before you get started | 19:39 |
| jelkner | we need to keep this fairly simple | 19:39 |
| jelkner | celina is very busy | 19:39 |
| mr_german | I know | 19:39 |
| jelkner | like we were saying, we can't make her have to answer too many questions | 19:39 |
| jelkner | or we are not serving her well | 19:39 |
| jelkner | when we're really humming along, we will learn to "read" our customers and make suggestions to them they will like | 19:40 |
| jelkner | why did she say the image with the Capitol was no good? | 19:40 |
| jelkner | The pictures she sent aren't from anywhere near here, so I'm confused | 19:41 |
| jelkner | We are near DC | 19:41 |
| mr_german | jelkner, Oh | 19:41 |
| jelkner | The Capitol is an image that represents our area | 19:41 |
| jelkner | I was hoping just to try to cut part of this | 19:41 |
| jelkner | but she is saying that won't work | 19:42 |
| mr_german | jelkner, let me talk with her about that | 19:42 |
| mr_german | jelkner, I talking with her right now! | 19:43 |
| mr_german | jelkner, Ok, we going to use The Capitol "again" | 19:44 |
| mr_german | we are* | 19:44 |
| jelkner | mr_german, great, thanks! | 20:59 |
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