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| mr_german | replaceafill, I know you're busy but, I want to show the "Graphic Design" section for NOVA | 13:37 |
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| mr_german | http://dev.novawebdev.webfactional.com/graphic-design | 13:37 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, ah sorry about that | 13:38 |
| replaceafill | i think i'll be able to revise those tonight | 13:39 |
| replaceafill | the design seems good though | 13:39 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, Maybe we could have a meeting tonight? | 13:40 |
| replaceafill | sure | 13:40 |
| replaceafill | do you need anything specific? | 13:40 |
| mr_german | help with helios | 13:40 |
| mr_german | just that | 13:40 |
| replaceafill | anything "specific" | 13:41 |
| replaceafill | ? | 13:41 |
| replaceafill | notice the "specific" part | 13:41 |
| mr_german | "installation" | 13:41 |
| replaceafill | are you getting an error? | 13:42 |
| mr_german | yep | 13:42 |
| replaceafill | copy/paste mr_german | 13:42 |
| replaceafill | that's always the first step | 13:42 |
| replaceafill | pastebin.com should be your friend | 13:42 |
| replaceafill | "i can't get past this: http://...." | 13:42 |
| replaceafill | that's specific ;) | 13:42 |
| mr_german | :O | 13:42 |
| mr_german | ok | 13:42 |
| mr_german | thanks! | 13:43 |
| replaceafill | i should be done with work this afternoon | 13:43 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, One more question | 13:43 |
| replaceafill | will you be around at 4:00 pm our time? | 13:43 |
| mr_german | Should I remove "ITIN" from my braindump | 13:44 |
| mr_german | ? | 13:44 |
| mr_german | 4pm our time? | 13:44 |
| replaceafill | change the itin task to waiting and set a "reminder" date in 6 weeks | 13:44 |
| replaceafill | i mean | 13:44 |
| replaceafill | the task becomes "call the IRS to check for ITIN" | 13:45 |
| replaceafill | call the IRS on july something something... | 13:45 |
| mr_german | got it | 13:45 |
| replaceafill | you still need to track that | 13:45 |
| replaceafill | kk | 13:45 |
| replaceafill | does 4 pm works for you today? | 13:45 |
| replaceafill | i can meet then | 13:45 |
| replaceafill | i doubt i can meet "tonight" | 13:46 |
| mr_german | our time? | 13:46 |
| replaceafill | yeah | 13:47 |
| mr_german | mmm | 13:47 |
| mr_german | ok | 13:47 |
| replaceafill | you can also post your question on the mailing list | 13:48 |
| replaceafill | and i'll answer it ASAP | 13:48 |
| mr_german | ok | 13:48 |
| mr_german | :) | 13:48 |
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| jelkner | Oh good, mr_german, replaceafill, glad to see you here! | 14:50 |
| jelkner | Next Tuesday is a big day for us. | 14:51 |
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| jelkner | We have to hope Elizabeth wins! | 14:51 |
| jelkner | Just an FYI, btw, I've asked z0nny to help me with my blog | 14:51 |
| jelkner | I want to use: http://ablog.readthedocs.io/ | 14:52 |
| jelkner | and with the help of mjsir911, z0nny is going to learn to style this. | 14:53 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, i want to move off of proprietary software, and i need to start blogging again for my Summer internship | 14:54 |
| jelkner | i *love* sphinx | 14:54 |
| jelkner | so ablog looked like a no brainer for me | 14:54 |
| replaceafill | back from lunch | 15:28 |
| replaceafill | jelkner crossing fingers for next Tuesday then | 15:28 |
| jelkner | indeed | 15:28 |
| jelkner | btw, replaceafill, i'll really need to talk to you about helios | 15:29 |
| jelkner | there was a loooong thread on the PSF mailing list (which threatened to bust into flame, but managed to stay mostly civil) | 15:30 |
| jelkner | i need to understand the technical issues discussed (which i don't) | 15:30 |
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| jelkner | since if we want to support helios, we will need to understand well | 15:31 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sure | 15:31 |
| replaceafill | any specifics? | 15:32 |
| replaceafill | i mean, specific issues | 15:32 |
| jelkner | i'll have to forward the messages to you | 15:32 |
| replaceafill | ok | 15:32 |
| jelkner | but the basic idea is that you want an election to be: | 15:32 |
| jelkner | 1. verifiable (by the voters) | 15:32 |
| jelkner | 2. anonymous | 15:32 |
| jelkner | so that the sys admin (or dba) can not determine who voted for what | 15:33 |
| replaceafill | that's Massimo's email, correct? | 15:34 |
| jelkner | massimo claims his system did that (i'll need to learn more about crypography to understand how this all works) | 15:34 |
| jelkner | he is on the mailing list. | 15:34 |
| jelkner | it was an entire thread | 15:34 |
| replaceafill | ok | 15:34 |
| jelkner | a lot of people posted | 15:34 |
| replaceafill | is it a shared concern? | 15:34 |
| jelkner | i think so | 15:34 |
| replaceafill | ok | 15:35 |
| jelkner | some people were saying we don't have to care since we trust the people involved | 15:35 |
| jelkner | but someone else understood the potential use of this software in other contexts, even more serious ones | 15:35 |
| jelkner | and made the claim that we need to get this right | 15:35 |
| replaceafill | it's a valid concern if we plan to provide services on this | 15:36 |
| replaceafill | is the helios developer in that conversation? | 15:36 |
| jelkner | i don't know | 15:41 |
| jelkner | https://github.com/benadida/helios-server/issues/170 - but Massimo filed this | 15:44 |
| replaceafill | i just subscribed to it | 15:46 |
| jelkner | Great! | 15:46 |
| jelkner | Then you'll be able to see the archive. | 15:46 |
| jelkner | The comment I liked best (which was not a majority opinion, since PSFers tend to be technologists, not social activists) is one by Justin Myles Holmes: | 15:48 |
| jelkner | "If we, as people discussing the nexus of science and civic participation, even on such a small scale as our board of directors, can lead by example in this regard, I think that it shows great civic virtue to do so." | 15:48 |
| replaceafill | nice | 15:48 |
| jelkner | I chimed in, "Here, here" | 15:49 |
| replaceafill | we're even a smaller scale :D | 15:49 |
| jelkner | but the discussion then ended by folks saying this was the wrong forum for it, and that they were getting tired of all the emails. | 15:49 |
| jelkner | I was eating it up, so i was a bit disappointed by that :-( | 15:50 |
| replaceafill | that's usual in the PSF mailing list afaik | 15:50 |
| jelkner | Anyway, i need to head to airport now on my way to Chicago. | 15:50 |
| jelkner | People's Summit here I come! | 15:50 |
| replaceafill | ah | 15:50 |
| replaceafill | have a good trip! | 15:50 |
| jelkner | Thanks, man. | 15:50 |
| jelkner | See you next Tuesday. | 15:51 |
| replaceafill | see you jelkner | 15:51 |
| jelkner | big day for VA! | 15:51 |
| jelkner | later, mr. cerna | 15:51 |
| replaceafill | big day for NOVA ;) | 15:51 |
| replaceafill | later | 15:51 |
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| replaceafill | mr_german, i'm done with my tasks | 17:14 |
| replaceafill | ready for meeting when you are | 17:14 |
| mr_german | ok give me a sec | 17:15 |
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| mr_german | replaceafill, ready | 17:18 |
| mr_german | :D | 17:18 |
| replaceafill | ok, what do you need? | 17:19 |
| mr_german | Im going to send you the link of my issue | 17:19 |
| replaceafill | ok | 17:20 |
| mr_german | https://pastebin.com/bwNvUDvn | 17:20 |
| mr_german | that happens when I try to do "./reset.sh" | 17:21 |
| mr_german | even with "python manage.py runserver" | 17:21 |
| replaceafill | checking | 17:22 |
| replaceafill | https://github.com/benadida/helios-server/issues/146 | 17:24 |
| replaceafill | always look at the github issues for the repo you're working with | 17:24 |
| replaceafill | unfortunately that doesn't contain much | 17:25 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, in the requirements file | 17:28 |
| replaceafill | update kombu to | 17:28 |
| replaceafill | 3.0.30 | 17:28 |
| replaceafill | and try again | 17:28 |
| mr_german | ok | 17:28 |
| replaceafill | don't forget the pip install -r requirements.txt step | 17:29 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, it works | 17:30 |
| replaceafill | cool | 17:30 |
| replaceafill | this is how i found the answer in case you're interested: | 17:30 |
| replaceafill | see line 14 of your pastebin | 17:31 |
| replaceafill | that's the import error | 17:31 |
| replaceafill | it's confusing because it initially complains about a settings settings | 17:31 |
| replaceafill | but look at the end of the lind | 17:31 |
| replaceafill | line* | 17:31 |
| replaceafill | that's the real problem | 17:31 |
| replaceafill | "cannot import name _uuid_generate_random" | 17:32 |
| replaceafill | which from my schooltool days i know | 17:32 |
| replaceafill | but if you google for that you'll get: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/34198538/cannot-import-name-uuid-generate-random-in-heroku-django | 17:32 |
| replaceafill | with the kombu solution | 17:32 |
| mr_german | oh yeah | 17:32 |
| mr_german | I can see | 17:32 |
| replaceafill | it may not happen on python3 | 17:33 |
| replaceafill | but since we decided to follow the developer advice | 17:33 |
| replaceafill | and stick with 2.7 | 17:33 |
| replaceafill | we have the issue | 17:33 |
| replaceafill | can you start the server now? | 17:33 |
| mr_german | yes! | 17:33 |
| mr_german | thanks! | 17:34 |
| replaceafill | does helios have a user manual? | 17:34 |
| mr_german | mm | 17:35 |
| mr_german | let me see | 17:35 |
| replaceafill | jelkner may be interested on this: https://www.usenix.org/legacy/events/sec08/tech/full_papers/adida/adida.pdf | 17:39 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, ^ contains some screenshots | 17:40 |
| replaceafill | not sure if they're still relevant | 17:40 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, ok, can you continue now? | 17:43 |
| replaceafill | try to do the same thing you did with evote | 17:43 |
| replaceafill | create and run a basic election | 17:43 |
| replaceafill | getting to know the options | 17:44 |
| mr_german | ok | 17:44 |
| replaceafill | more docs: http://www.jannaweber.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/858Helios.pdf | 17:46 |
| replaceafill | ok | 17:49 |
| replaceafill | time to go "home" | 17:49 |
| replaceafill | later mr_german | 17:50 |
| mr_german | bye replaceafill | 17:54 |
| mr_german | thanks! | 17:55 |
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