IRC log of #novawebdev for Friday, 2017-06-09

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mr_germanreplaceafill, I know you're busy but, I want to show the "Graphic Design" section for NOVA13:37
mr_germanhttp://dev.novawebdev.webfactional.com/graphic-design13:37
replaceafillmr_german, ah sorry about that13:38
replaceafilli think i'll be able to revise those tonight13:39
replaceafillthe design seems good though13:39
mr_germanreplaceafill, Maybe we could have a meeting tonight?13:40
replaceafillsure13:40
replaceafilldo you need anything specific?13:40
mr_germanhelp with helios13:40
mr_germanjust that13:40
replaceafillanything "specific"13:41
replaceafill?13:41
replaceafillnotice the "specific" part13:41
mr_german"installation"13:41
replaceafillare you getting an error?13:42
mr_germanyep13:42
replaceafillcopy/paste mr_german13:42
replaceafillthat's always the first step13:42
replaceafillpastebin.com should be your friend13:42
replaceafill"i can't get past this: http://...."13:42
replaceafillthat's specific ;)13:42
mr_german:O13:42
mr_germanok13:42
mr_germanthanks!13:43
replaceafilli should be done with work this afternoon13:43
mr_germanreplaceafill, One more question13:43
replaceafillwill you be around at 4:00 pm our time?13:43
mr_germanShould I remove "ITIN" from my braindump13:44
mr_german?13:44
mr_german4pm our time?13:44
replaceafillchange the itin task to waiting and set a "reminder" date in 6 weeks13:44
replaceafilli mean13:44
replaceafillthe task becomes "call the IRS to check for ITIN"13:45
replaceafillcall the IRS on july something something...13:45
mr_germangot it13:45
replaceafillyou still need to track that13:45
replaceafillkk13:45
replaceafilldoes 4 pm works for you today?13:45
replaceafilli can meet then13:45
replaceafilli doubt i can meet "tonight"13:46
mr_germanour time?13:46
replaceafillyeah13:47
mr_germanmmm13:47
mr_germanok13:47
replaceafillyou can also post your question on the mailing list13:48
replaceafilland i'll answer it ASAP13:48
mr_germanok13:48
mr_german:)13:48
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jelknerOh good, mr_german, replaceafill, glad to see you here!14:50
jelknerNext Tuesday is a big day for us.14:51
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jelknerWe have to hope Elizabeth wins!14:51
jelknerJust an FYI, btw, I've asked z0nny to help me with my blog14:51
jelknerI want to use: http://ablog.readthedocs.io/14:52
jelknerand with the help of mjsir911, z0nny is going to learn to style this.14:53
jelknerreplaceafill, i want to move off of proprietary software, and i need to start blogging again for my Summer internship14:54
jelkneri *love* sphinx14:54
jelknerso ablog looked like a no brainer for me14:54
replaceafillback from lunch15:28
replaceafilljelkner crossing fingers for next Tuesday then15:28
jelknerindeed15:28
jelknerbtw, replaceafill, i'll really need to talk to you about helios15:29
jelknerthere was a loooong thread on the PSF mailing list (which threatened to bust into flame, but managed to stay mostly civil)15:30
jelkneri need to understand the technical issues discussed (which i don't)15:30
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jelknersince if we want to support helios, we will need to understand well15:31
replaceafilljelkner, sure15:31
replaceafillany specifics?15:32
replaceafilli mean, specific issues15:32
jelkneri'll have to forward the messages to you15:32
replaceafillok15:32
jelknerbut the basic idea is that you want an election to be:15:32
jelkner1. verifiable (by the voters)15:32
jelkner2. anonymous15:32
jelknerso that the sys admin (or dba) can not determine who voted for what15:33
replaceafillthat's Massimo's email, correct?15:34
jelknermassimo claims his system did that (i'll need to learn more about crypography to understand how this all works)15:34
jelknerhe is on the mailing list.15:34
jelknerit was an entire thread15:34
replaceafillok15:34
jelknera lot of people posted15:34
replaceafillis it a shared concern?15:34
jelkneri think so15:34
replaceafillok15:35
jelknersome people were saying we don't have to care since we trust the people involved15:35
jelknerbut someone else understood the potential use of this software in other contexts, even more serious ones15:35
jelknerand made the claim that we need to get this right15:35
replaceafillit's a valid concern if we plan to provide services on this15:36
replaceafillis the helios developer in that conversation?15:36
jelkneri don't know15:41
jelknerhttps://github.com/benadida/helios-server/issues/170 - but Massimo filed this15:44
replaceafilli just subscribed to it15:46
jelknerGreat!15:46
jelknerThen you'll be able to see the archive.15:46
jelknerThe comment I liked best (which was not a majority opinion, since PSFers tend to be technologists, not social activists) is one by Justin Myles Holmes:15:48
jelkner"If we, as people discussing the nexus of science and civic participation, even on such a small scale as our board of directors, can lead by example in this regard, I think that it shows great civic virtue to do so."15:48
replaceafillnice15:48
jelknerI chimed in, "Here, here"15:49
replaceafillwe're even a smaller scale :D15:49
jelknerbut the discussion then ended by folks saying this was the wrong forum for it, and that they were getting tired of all the emails.15:49
jelknerI was eating it up, so i was a bit disappointed by that :-(15:50
replaceafillthat's usual in the PSF mailing list afaik15:50
jelknerAnyway, i need to head to airport now on my way to Chicago.15:50
jelknerPeople's Summit here I come!15:50
replaceafillah15:50
replaceafillhave a good trip!15:50
jelknerThanks, man.15:50
jelknerSee you next Tuesday.15:51
replaceafillsee you jelkner15:51
jelknerbig day for VA!15:51
jelknerlater, mr. cerna15:51
replaceafillbig day for NOVA ;)15:51
replaceafilllater15:51
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replaceafillmr_german, i'm done with my tasks17:14
replaceafillready for meeting when you are17:14
mr_germanok give me a sec17:15
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mr_germanreplaceafill, ready17:18
mr_german:D17:18
replaceafillok, what do you need?17:19
mr_germanIm going to send you the link of my issue17:19
replaceafillok17:20
mr_germanhttps://pastebin.com/bwNvUDvn17:20
mr_germanthat happens when I try to do "./reset.sh"17:21
mr_germaneven with "python manage.py runserver"17:21
replaceafillchecking17:22
replaceafillhttps://github.com/benadida/helios-server/issues/14617:24
replaceafillalways look at the github issues for the repo you're working with17:24
replaceafillunfortunately that doesn't contain much17:25
replaceafillmr_german, in the requirements file17:28
replaceafillupdate kombu to17:28
replaceafill3.0.3017:28
replaceafilland try again17:28
mr_germanok17:28
replaceafilldon't forget the pip install -r requirements.txt step17:29
mr_germanreplaceafill, it works17:30
replaceafillcool17:30
replaceafillthis is how i found the answer in case you're interested:17:30
replaceafillsee line 14 of your pastebin17:31
replaceafillthat's the import error17:31
replaceafillit's confusing because it initially complains about a settings settings17:31
replaceafillbut look at the end of the lind17:31
replaceafillline*17:31
replaceafillthat's the real problem17:31
replaceafill"cannot import name _uuid_generate_random"17:32
replaceafillwhich from my schooltool days i know17:32
replaceafillbut if you google for that you'll get: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/34198538/cannot-import-name-uuid-generate-random-in-heroku-django17:32
replaceafillwith the kombu solution17:32
mr_germanoh yeah17:32
mr_germanI can see17:32
replaceafillit may not happen on python317:33
replaceafillbut since we decided to follow the developer advice17:33
replaceafilland stick with 2.717:33
replaceafillwe have the issue17:33
replaceafillcan you start the server now?17:33
mr_germanyes!17:33
mr_germanthanks!17:34
replaceafilldoes helios have a user manual?17:34
mr_germanmm17:35
mr_germanlet me see17:35
replaceafilljelkner may be interested on this: https://www.usenix.org/legacy/events/sec08/tech/full_papers/adida/adida.pdf17:39
replaceafillmr_german, ^ contains some screenshots17:40
replaceafillnot sure if they're still relevant17:40
replaceafillmr_german, ok, can you continue now?17:43
replaceafilltry to do the same thing you did with evote17:43
replaceafillcreate and run a basic election17:43
replaceafillgetting to know the options17:44
mr_germanok17:44
replaceafillmore docs: http://www.jannaweber.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/858Helios.pdf17:46
replaceafillok17:49
replaceafilltime to go "home"17:49
replaceafilllater mr_german17:50
mr_germanbye replaceafill 17:54
mr_germanthanks!17:55
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