IRC log of #novawebdev for Tuesday, 2017-12-26

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jelknermr_german, how are you?15:59
mr_germanjelkner, hello!16:00
jelknerwhen will you hear back from the embassy?16:01
jelknerdo they give you a time estimate?16:01
jelknerdid you have a good Christmas, mr_german?16:02
jelknermr_german, are you still here?16:05
mr_germanjelkner, sorry, about that16:08
mr_germanI'm don't sure exactly16:08
mr_germanjelkner, and yes, I did thanks for asking16:08
mr_germanjelkner, what about you?16:08
jelknerme too16:09
jelknervisiting family in New Jersey16:09
jelknerwhere were you?16:09
mr_germanI didn't go anywhere, I stayed at home 16:11
jelknerat home is nice16:11
jelknerthat means Santa Ana, yes?16:11
jelkneri look forward to visiting next summer16:11
jelknerok, i won't take up any more of your time.  just wanted to say hi.16:12
mr_germanthat would be great jelkner 16:13
mr_germanjelkner, jaja do not worry16:13
mr_germanjelkner, I was working on a few things for ora site16:13
jelknerthat is our main focus now16:14
mr_germanjelkner, as replaceafill says, we need to get this ready!16:14
jelknersince we will be working with them to get our product developed16:14
jelknerreplaceafill is right, as usual ;-)16:14
mr_germanjelkner, yeah!16:14
replaceafillyeah right...16:15
mr_germanreplaceafill, :016:15
mr_germanhe's back16:15
jelknerjust at the right moment ;-)16:15
jelknersince i have you two here16:15
jelknerwill you be around thursday?16:15
replaceafilljelkner, i will16:16
mr_germanjelkner, yes!16:16
jelknerzOnny and i will be working from 11 am to 6 pm our time16:16
jelknerit would be great if we could talk to you then too16:16
jelknermjsir911 won't be able to make it16:16
jelknerbut i just spoke with him on the phone, replaceafill, and he is ready to work with you on helios16:17
replaceafilljelkner, cool16:17
jelknerreplaceafill, i was asking mr_german about the visa process16:17
jelknerdo you know about when he can expect to hear something?16:18
replaceafilljelkner, afaik, and mr_german correct me if i'm wrong, he's waiting for his PyCon invitation letter16:18
jelknerfrom whom?16:18
mr_germanreplaceafill, yes, Im still waiting..16:18
replaceafilljelkner, which afaik too he's requested twice by now16:18
replaceafilljelkner, the pycon organizers16:19
jelknerthat's why i'm asking16:19
jelknerhe should have to ask again.16:19
jelkneri will16:19
jelknersince nova web development wants its people there!16:20
jelknermr_german, can you please forward me the emails you sent?16:20
jelknerand i will follow up next week16:20
replaceafillthanks jelkner16:20
mr_germanjelkner, sure!16:20
jelkneroh, i ment to say "he should *not* have to ask again"! :-(16:21
jelknercool, mr_german, i'll be looking for those emails.16:21
replaceafillit's been really weird, the times i've asked for letters, they've come really quick16:22
replaceafillnot sure what's the deal this time16:22
jelkneri think i have a good idea16:22
replaceafilland mr_german is not the insisting kind of guy...16:22
replaceafilland neither i am :(16:22
jelknerthe conference is getting too big for them to handle16:22
replaceafilljelkner, right16:22
jelknerIzac, Marco, and I are waiting to hear from the EDU Summit.16:23
jelknerNothing so far.16:23
replaceafillgood to know at least :)16:23
jelknerI am the insisting kind of guy16:24
replaceafilli don't believe tht16:24
jelknerI whine as politely (but annoyingly) as I can until I get a response ;-)16:24
jelknerAnyway, I'm on it.16:24
replaceafill+1 on the politely part16:24
replaceafilljelkner, so what's your goal on Thursday?16:25
replaceafilljelkner, i mean for z0nny16:25
jelknerI would like zOnny and mr_german to talk about theming Tendenci16:26
replaceafilljelkner, like do you want him with a dev environment by then? just inform him?16:26
replaceafilljelkner, i'm ok with that16:26
replaceafilljelkner, but i would like to hightlight that if we request things from them16:26
replaceafilljelkner, they should be done when expected16:26
jelkneri talked with mjsir911 a few minutes ago16:27
jelknerhe said he can back up zOnny with any issues he encouters16:27
jelknerright now we have a bit of redundancy16:27
replaceafilljelkner, great16:27
jelknerRena, mr_german, and zOnny working on the same thing16:28
replaceafillmr_german, what are you doing with ora at the moment?16:28
jelknerwe shouldn't do that regularly, since it isn't the most effecient16:28
replaceafilljelkner, right16:28
jelknerbut since this is our product, and we need to get it done soon16:28
jelkneri'm ok with a bit of redundancy now16:29
replaceafilljelkner, i'd go a bit further16:29
jelknerso we have a large enough team to be able to serve customers well once we start getting them16:29
replaceafilljelkner, and distribute mr_german and z0nny differently16:29
replaceafilljelkner, i know you want redundancy16:30
replaceafilljelkner, but i'd like parallelism instead16:30
replaceafilljelkner, mr_german knows a bit about helios16:30
replaceafilljelkner, and he has done some helios theming already16:30
jelkneryour the doctor, replaceafill 16:30
jelknerthe idea is to skill up our team as fast as we can16:30
replaceafilljelkner, just today i was telling lelkner-alfaro:16:30
replaceafill"i wish that all of our tools look the same"16:31
replaceafilltendenci, helios, the php sites, etc16:31
replaceafillfor a client16:31
jelknerwe will need that16:31
replaceafillso you don't feel like you're really using 3 things16:31
jelknerit won't be a marketable product otherwise16:31
replaceafillwhich at this point look completely different16:31
jelknerthat, in short, is what we are developing16:32
replaceafillthat's why we need to figure this out correctly16:32
jelknerwe are doing systems integration16:32
jelknerand our integrated systems will feel like a single system to our users16:32
replaceafillthe dream :)16:32
jelknerand our task is to make dreams come true!16:33
replaceafilli think that with good organization and docs we could make it happen16:33
replaceafillmr_german, you around?16:33
mr_germanreplaceafill, right now, I'm working on what you requested16:33
jelkneri've been talking with louisea about our marketing materials16:33
replaceafillmr_german, what exactly?16:33
jelknerhe will develop our business plan and marketing materials16:34
replaceafilljelkner, i was quoting you today in my meeting with louisea on how we python developers are good adding features to applications but not as good at design16:35
jelknerreconnect with rand in boston16:35
mr_germanreplaceafill, articles, indent spaces16:35
replaceafillmr_german, don't16:35
jelknerreplaceafill, that's our challenge16:35
jelknersince it has to look good16:35
jelknerif we are successful, there will be a real need for nrcerna16:36
replaceafillmr_german, my observations in the email were that "observations"16:36
replaceafillmr_german, they're not actionables16:36
replaceafillmr_german, you don't need to do anything on them16:36
replaceafilljelkner, indeed16:36
mr_germanreplaceafill, oh...16:37
jelknerok, my friends, i'm going to go back to school stuff16:37
mr_germanreplaceafill, well.. in tha case, i am able to new work16:37
jelkner(RHCSA at this point)16:37
replaceafillmr_german, sorry if i wasn't clear, those are things yhou need to take care of16:37
replaceafilljelkner, cool16:37
jelknertalk to you both on thursday16:37
replaceafilllater jelkner16:37
mr_germanjelkner, see you then!16:37
jelkner\me signs off16:37
mr_germanjelkner, have a good day!16:37
replaceafillmr_german, will you be around tonight16:38
replaceafillmr_german, i'd like to talk with you16:38
replaceafillmr_german, in person this time since i'll be around :)16:38
mr_germanmr_german, yep!16:38
replaceafillmr_german, we should talk "big picture"16:39
mr_germanreplaceafill, ok!16:39
replaceafillmr_german, i think i'll get to Santa Ana around 7-8 pm16:39
mr_germanreplaceafill, around 8 o 7?16:39
mr_germanreplaceafill, :016:39
mr_germanreplaceafill, okok sure!16:39
replaceafillmr_german, we can hangout too16:39
replaceafillmr_german, but we should talk16:39
mr_germanreplaceafill, ok!16:40
replaceafillmr_german, mostly i want to set some rules/practices for developing these themes16:40
replaceafillmr_german, and document them16:40
mr_germanreplaceafill, sure, I'll around!16:40
replaceafillmr_german, if you have a standard way of doing something16:40
replaceafillmr_german, even if it's a dumb way of doing it16:40
replaceafillmr_german, all your organization can follow it16:41
replaceafillmr_german, or team16:41
mr_germanreplaceafill, k16:41
replaceafillmr_german, i'll ping you when i get online there16:41
replaceafillmr_german, and we'll take it from there16:41
mr_germanreplaceafill, great, I'll wait for u to ping me or call16:42
replaceafillACTION goes to get ready16:42
replaceafilllater mr_german16:42
mr_germanreplaceafill, later16:42
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