IRC log of #novawebdev for Friday, 2018-03-30

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jelknerping replaceafill 12:49
replaceafillpong jelkner12:49
jelkneri need a cte evaluation12:50
jelkneri was wrong, riseup and mayfirst are not the same organization12:50
replaceafilljelkner, ah!12:50
jelknerone is a collective based in new york12:50
jelknerthe other in seattle12:50
jelknerthe reason i got confused is that they were sharing a server12:51
jelkneranyway, we should choose one of the other to provide our mail12:51
jelkneri'll be responsible for reaching out to them12:51
replaceafilljelkner, ok12:51
jelknerbut i would like your opinion as to which would be easier for us to use from a technical point of view12:52
replaceafilljelkner, ok12:52
replaceafilljelkner, i'm kind of familiar with mayfirst12:52
jelknerwe are going to setup email for novawebdev and novalaciro12:52
replaceafilljelkner, i mean, i've seen their site in the past12:52
jelknerso look at riseup12:52
jelknerand compare12:52
replaceafilljelkner, ok12:53
replaceafilljelkner, this one right?12:53
replaceafilljelkner, can i do it over the weekend?12:54
replaceafilljelkner, i'm working on ORA atm12:54
replaceafilljelkner, thanks12:54
jelknerno rush12:54
replaceafilljelkner, will do12:54
jelknerno man, thank you, since it means i can wait til then to follow up ;-)12:54
replaceafilljelkner, :D12:54
jelknerbtw. i ordered the laminator, paper, and laminate yesterday12:56
replaceafilljelkner, ah cool, hope we get it right12:56
replaceafilljelkner, i mean, the whole process12:56
jelknerwe better12:56
jelknerthe stuff cost $82912:56
replaceafilljelkner, holy s**t12:56
jelknerlook, that's cheap12:57
jelknerin the printing on pvc process, the machine alone costs more than $2K12:57
jelkneri got the laminator for $18912:57
jelknerand enough paper and laminate for 100 id cards for $63012:58
jelknerso basically, it is $7 per id12:58
jelkner*if* we get them right12:58
jelknerand don't f**K them up while we print12:58
jelknerso we have to get it right12:59
replaceafilljelkner, we need to do a lot of testing before printing real ones12:59
jelkneri'm thinking we will cut out regular paper into 6x4 sheets12:59
jelknerand print on them until we get what we want12:59
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replaceafilljelkner, yeah, i was thinking of doing the same12:59
jelknerzOnny, good morning!12:59
zOnnyjelkner: Good Morning13:00
jelknerSo this document is ready to go13:00
jelknerlet's start13:00
jelknerso, my browser is at, what do i do?13:01
jelkneram i a superuser?13:02
zOnnyjelkner: give me a min I just turned on my machine13:04
jelknerokie dokie13:04
replaceafilljelkner, there's no rush, but when you have 15-30 mins i'd like to hang out with you13:08
replaceafilljelkner, it doesn't have to be today13:08
replaceafilljelkner, i can wait until next week13:08
jelknertoday is fine13:15
jelknerdo you mean hangout with voice?13:15
replaceafilljelkner, yes13:15
jelknermy brother is playing the piano13:15
jelknerso it is too loud to talke13:15
replaceafilljelkner, np we can wait until next week13:15
jelknerbut i can ask him in a bit if we can hangout13:15
replaceafilljelkner, it's fine, it's not urgent13:16
replaceafilljelkner, let the man play!13:16
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zOnnyreplaceafill: you are my hero :)13:19
replaceafillzOnny, hm?13:20
jelknerzOnny, replaceafill instead of asking zOnny to write a CMS manual, isn't there a url to which you can point and tell me "go study"?13:20
jelknerthat will save you a lot of work13:20
jelkneri'm in, and it is setup13:20
jelknerthe next step should be mine13:20
jelknerbut i would like to use your "approved" tutorial13:21
jelkneri'll contact you if i have questions13:21
jelknerwell zOnny, replaceafill, what do you think13:22
replaceafilljelkner, Tendenci's information is really scattered13:23
replaceafilljelkner, unless you know what you're looking for, the help-files are not organized in a tutorial-ish way13:23
jelknerahh, so we do need a tutorial13:23
jelknerin that case, instead of having me wait around and watch while you write one13:24
replaceafilljelkner, there are also nice video tutorials13:24
replaceafilljelkner, but they're really outdated13:24
jelknerwhy don't we figure out who among us will work on that13:24
jelknerwe can bill novalaciro for some of that work13:24
jelknersince they will need it too13:24
jelknerso let's discuss that13:24
replaceafilljelkner, it'd be nice to have a theme neutral tutorial13:25
jelknerand then you all can get back to me when you have some documentation you want me to test13:25
replaceafilljelkner, you're going to use the nea4or theme13:25
jelkneri don't have time to write docs13:25
replaceafilljelkner, but ORA can use the same13:25
jelknerbut i can test them13:25
replaceafilljelkner, but some of their options are a bit different13:25
jelkneras i'm creating content for our customer sites13:25
jelknerthis is a good time to figure out what we do as novaweb in both cases13:26
replaceafilljelkner, it's not a considerable difference, mostly cosmetic13:26
jelknercustom sites13:26
jelknerand default ones13:26
jelknerto have a good product13:26
jelkneri hope it isn't too different13:26
jelkneror it will be hard on both us and our customers13:26
jelknerwhich will be bad for businsess13:26
replaceafilljelkner, this is related to what lelkneralfaro wrote last week when we were discussing lee carter's cms13:27
replaceafilljelkner, WE NEED OUR OWN THEME13:27
replaceafilljelkner, OR13:27
replaceafilljelkner, start using's 2018 theme13:27
jelknerthat's your discussion13:28
jelkneri don't have the background to decide that13:28
replaceafilljelkner, look how beautiful work mr_german can do with some base:
replaceafilljelkner, that base is what we need13:28
jelkneri can only address it from a customer point of view13:28
replaceafilljelkner, sure13:28
jelknerwhat it feels like to use it13:28
jelknerso you tell me13:28
replaceafilljelkner, but for instance13:28
replaceafilljelkner, at the beginning13:28
replaceafilljelkner, you kind of opposed to us using bootstrap13:29
replaceafilljelkner, because you wanted to favor css grid13:29
replaceafilljelkner, so you do influence tech decisions13:29
replaceafilljelkner, :)13:29
replaceafilljelkner, don't hide now!13:29
jelkneri was just saying that grid is the future13:29
replaceafilljelkner, and i agree13:29
replaceafilljelkner, but again13:29
jelkneri will live up to that13:29
replaceafilljelkner, the problem becomes 100% coverage of tendenci with our own theme13:29
jelknerbut keep in mind, replaceafill, that while i may have my opinion13:30
replaceafilljelkner, that's why i proposed a sprint13:30
jelkneri will (and do) gladly defer to you as the final decider on matters like this13:30
replaceafilljelkner, to get ours done, designed for the future13:30
replaceafilljelkner, zOnny if you check you'll see they rely heavily on their theme13:31
replaceafilljelkner, that's good for business!13:31
jelknerreplaceafill, zOnny are you all ready to hang out?13:31
replaceafilljelkner, i can13:31
jelknertoo much typing for a broad discussion like this13:31
jelknercool me too13:31
jelknerlet's role13:31
replaceafilljelkner, true13:31
replaceafilljelkner, roll* :P13:32
zOnnyreplaceafill: can you join us ?13:34
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zOnnyreplaceafill: that theme is this ?14:09
replaceafillzOnny, when is a good time to talk?14:52
replaceafillzOnny, i have time now if you do14:52
zOnnyreplaceafill I am ready14:53
replaceafillzOnny, give me 5 ok14:53
replaceafillon the phone14:53
replaceafillzOnny, i'm calling mr_german for him to join us14:54
replaceafillACTION thinks we are crazy, but that this is the *right* move...14:54
replaceafillzOnny, inviting you to the call14:58
replaceafillzOnny, i added the css custom stylesheet and created the branches for the projects we're going to work17:35
zOnnyreplaceafill: thanks17:45
replaceafillzOnny, i'm changing a few things in the gitlab team, let me know if they get in your way18:03
zOnny*zonny is back 19:17
zOnnyreplaceafill: I will include python right?19:19
replaceafillzOnny, yes19:42
replaceafillzOnny, sorry i was in the shower and forgot to set the state :D19:42
zOnnyreplaceafill can you see the error19:45
replaceafillzOnny, directory problem?19:45
replaceafillzOnny, always include your command in the pastes19:45
replaceafillzOnny, i can't see what generated that19:45
zOnnyreplaceafill: python manage deploy19:46
replaceafillzOnny, did you run anything of this as sudo?19:47
replaceafillzOnny, if your user is equinteros try: sudo chown -R edzonquinteros /home/equinteros/projects/TENDENCI/nea4or19:47
replaceafillzOnny, hhmm i misunderstood your question19:49
replaceafillzOnny, i don't think you need all the commands in deploy19:49
replaceafillzOnny, you need the 2018 fixtures19:50
replaceafillzOnny, line 9 is what you don't need
replaceafillzOnny, i usually run that "manually"19:50
replaceafillzOnny, meaning i run each command separately19:51
zOnnyreplaceafill: ok19:51
replaceafillzOnny, and skip the last one19:51
replaceafillzOnny, then you do the same with the fixutres in the theme19:51
replaceafillzOnny, of course adjusting the path "themes/NAMEOFYOURTHEME/..."19:52
replaceafillzOnny, i'll start setting up the testing sites19:53
zOnnyreplaceafill: seems that I set up this in the root :(20:13
replaceafillzOnny, :S20:14
replaceafillzOnny, then the permission issue makes sense :)20:14
zOnnyreplaceafill: I know 20:14
zOnnyreplaceafill: In the installation process what should not required sudo ? 20:15
replaceafillzOnny, hhmm other the the apt-get commands, nothing20:16
replaceafillother than the*20:16
replaceafillzOnny, oh, and the database creation20:16
zOnnythere is a way to remove everything from root ?20:17
replaceafillzOnny, it depends on what you really did20:17
zOnnyreplaceafill: I was so exited that I didn't care that part 20:18
replaceafillzOnny, :D20:18
replaceafillzOnny, did you try the chown command i provided above?20:18
zOnnyreplaceafill: which means all the process20:18
replaceafillsudo chown -R edzonquinteros /home/equinteros/projects/20:19
zOnnyreplaceafill: yep but didn't work20:19
zOnnyoh wait20:20
zOnnyreplaceafill: it just loading :S20:22
replaceafillzOnny, :)20:22
zOnnyreplaceafill: what does this command ?20:25
replaceafillzOnny, chown?20:26
replaceafillzOnny, change ownership20:26
zOnnyreplaceafill I am not familiar with the first 14 lines20:50
replaceafillzOnny, 14 lines of what?20:51
replaceafillzOnny, oh sorry20:51
replaceafillzOnny, that was to show you what steps needed sudo20:52
replaceafillzOnny, i forgot to finish my comment :S20:52
replaceafillzOnny, so you would see only the database commands need to be run as "root"20:52
replaceafillzOnny, or the postgres user to be specific20:52
replaceafillzOnny, you don't need to follow the script :)20:53
replaceafillzOnny, we do need a repetable and easy way to create tendenci instances20:53

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