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| Diza | Hey | 10:18 |
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| hrodriguez | hey Diza | 10:19 |
| zOnny | Hey Diza | 10:19 |
| jelkner | Hello Diza, great to see you here! | 10:20 |
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| jelkner | good morning, replaceafill! | 11:55 |
| replaceafill | good morning jelkner | 11:56 |
| zOnny | hey replaceafill | 11:56 |
| jelkner | i'm here with zOnny and hrodriguez | 11:56 |
| replaceafill | hello zOnny and hrodriguez | 11:56 |
| jelkner | and daniela from novalaciro | 11:56 |
| jelkner | (but she isn't on irc at the moment) | 11:56 |
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| replaceafill | hello Daniela | 11:56 |
| jelkner | (though zOnny got her setup on her ubuntu phone so she can join us when need be) | 11:57 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, is the novalaciro meeting today? | 11:57 |
| jelkner | yes, at 4 pm | 11:57 |
| hrodriguez | Hello! replaceafill | 11:57 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, oh ok, i was about to ask you how that went but i remembered your "tomorrow" confusion :) | 11:57 |
| jelkner | lol | 11:58 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i assume we're going to wait after the meeting to talk about future novalaciro tasks | 11:58 |
| jelkner | so let me be really focused, and strive to be accurate | 11:58 |
| jelkner | here is the scheduled for the next few days: | 11:58 |
| jelkner | 1. novalaciro board meeting today at 4 pm | 11:59 |
| jelkner | 2. i visit Our Revolution national office on Monday, April 10 at around 12 noon | 11:59 |
| jelkner | 3. OR Arlington general meeting on Monday, April 10 at 7 pm | 12:00 |
| jelkner | so, we have three of our tendenci instances in play between now and monday | 12:00 |
| jelkner | novalaciro, nea4or, and or arlington | 12:01 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, yes | 12:01 |
| jelkner | any ideas on how best to prioritize zOnny's work? | 12:01 |
| jelkner | and you and mr_german if you have any time over the weekend | 12:02 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, aea? | 12:02 |
| jelkner | aea is very important | 12:02 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i've told mr_german to wait | 12:02 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, until we discuss finances | 12:02 |
| jelkner | but nothing will happen this weekend | 12:02 |
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| replaceafill | jelkner, do you have time now to go through the new designs we have? | 12:03 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, to get your feedback | 12:03 |
| jelkner | yes | 12:03 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, cool | 12:03 |
| jelkner | that's what i'm here for | 12:03 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, keep in mind *my* priority was not to copy or get identical functionality at this first stage | 12:04 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, it was just for us to explore theming based on the new base theme | 12:04 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, zOnny was mentioning yesterday elastic design is important to you | 12:04 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, we can do that | 12:04 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, but haven't done it at this point | 12:05 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and basically i want to know if you're confortable with how far/close we are | 12:05 |
| jelkner | what do you mean by "elastic design"? | 12:05 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, to move this to production state | 12:05 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, web design that uses your entire screen space | 12:05 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, scalable fonts, images, etc | 12:05 |
| jelkner | ah yes | 12:05 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, that was not *my* priority at *this* stage | 12:06 |
| jelkner | i personally think fixed width designs look aweful | 12:06 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i agree | 12:06 |
| jelkner | but let's not let that be a show stopper | 12:06 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, but it seems to me that we already know how to solve that | 12:06 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sure | 12:06 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ok | 12:06 |
| jelkner | let's back off a minute on the technical discussion | 12:06 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, so | 12:06 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sure | 12:06 |
| jelkner | as zOnny and i were discussing this morning | 12:07 |
| jelkner | the success of novawebdevelopment will be primarily determined by our ability to serve customer needs | 12:07 |
| jelkner | which in this case means helping organize people | 12:07 |
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| jelkner | so success will mean we can show large and growing databases of folks | 12:08 |
| jelkner | and organizations making use of these databases to accomplish there ends | 12:08 |
| jelkner | that's the bottom line | 12:08 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, right | 12:08 |
| jelkner | btw. I printed the id card nrcerna made | 12:08 |
| jelkner | it looks nice | 12:09 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ah great | 12:09 |
| jelkner | the id maker arrives monday | 12:09 |
| jelkner | the board will approve the look this evening | 12:09 |
| jelkner | so we can finalize that | 12:09 |
| jelkner | by next week, we want daniela getting members | 12:09 |
| jelkner | so we need our novalaciro site to support that | 12:09 |
| jelkner | i would say that is one of our two top priorities | 12:10 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ok, just keep in mind that we're already at that point | 12:10 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, what changed last week was | 12:10 |
| jelkner | perfect | 12:10 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, our decision about making the cms accessible | 12:10 |
| jelkner | i agree we are at that point once daniela is using what we have | 12:10 |
| jelkner | but i'm with you | 12:10 |
| jelkner | next priority is to have nea4or using tendenci by monday | 12:11 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, the changes we're going to go through today are just to provide a user friendly cms | 12:11 |
| jelkner | or tan pronto que sea posible | 12:11 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, manager talking... :/ | 12:11 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ok | 12:11 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, let's get started with "our" baby | 12:11 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, the one that's going to have higher exposure | 12:12 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i'm not sure if zOnny already showed you this already | 12:12 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, but here's nea4or https://nea4or.novawebdevelopment.org/ | 12:12 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, please log in as admin:admin | 12:12 |
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| replaceafill | jelkner, if zOnny is physically around he can explain the moving parts, boxes, pages, and navs | 12:13 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, to you and hrodriguez and Daniela | 12:13 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, that knowledge should transfer to the other instances | 12:14 |
| jelkner | cool! | 12:15 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, you could try editing a couple of pages | 12:15 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, or customizing the footer or the navigation options | 12:15 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, this is just test data | 12:16 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, these instances can and should be broken | 12:16 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, also, if anyone wants to mess around with Tendenci | 12:16 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, https://demo.tendenci.com/ should be the place to go | 12:17 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, our instances will die at some point | 12:17 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, tendenci's demo wont | 12:17 |
| jelkner | so zOnny just showd hrodriguez and me how to change this | 12:17 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and because of our decision of using their theme as a base, again, the options should be similar and placed the same way | 12:17 |
| jelkner | very intuitive | 12:17 |
| jelkner | let's get this onto the production site today | 12:17 |
| jelkner | i don't have time to "play" | 12:18 |
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| replaceafill | jelkner, between today and tomorrow ;) | 12:18 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i understand | 12:18 |
| jelkner | i want to start making real changes on the real system | 12:18 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sure | 12:18 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, nea4or is the first one in my list | 12:18 |
| jelkner | that's how i will be able to test it | 12:18 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sure | 12:18 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, will do | 12:18 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ok, next? | 12:18 |
| jelkner | we plan to train hrodriguez on this too | 12:18 |
| jelkner | lelkneralfaro and she can be primarily responsible for customer training | 12:19 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, +1 | 12:19 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i've been pushing zOnny and mr_german to touch the cms options as less as possible | 12:19 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, for making customer training easier | 12:19 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ok, next is novalaciro: https://novalaciro.novawebdevelopment.org/ | 12:20 |
| jelkner | +1 making training easier! | 12:20 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, novalaciro's testing data doesn't look exactly as production | 12:20 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sorry about that | 12:20 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, but i focused on having the bilingual options ready and tested | 12:20 |
| jelkner | when can we have that moved to production? | 12:21 |
| jelkner | daniela works weekends | 12:21 |
| jelkner | we have her here today | 12:21 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, please log in as admin, the link is at the bottom left | 12:21 |
| jelkner | and we want her to begin adding members as soon as possible | 12:21 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, is there anything you want Daniela doing today in production? | 12:21 |
| jelkner | two other things about novalaciro | 12:21 |
| jelkner | 1. we need the id thing to work | 12:22 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, id thing == id card? | 12:22 |
| jelkner | 2. tenants and workers united will be a very likely user of exactly the same features | 12:22 |
| jelkner | yes | 12:22 |
| jelkner | id thing = id card ;-) | 12:22 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, the current use case is that members register themselves | 12:23 |
| jelkner | in math (== in python ;-) | 12:23 |
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| jelkner | for novalaciro | 12:23 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, but Daniela could go to the production membership form and start adding people | 12:23 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, using their data | 12:23 |
| jelkner | it is more likely daniela registers people | 12:23 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and since email is not enabled, i think that's fine for now | 12:23 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i meant, i think that she registering with other's people data is fine | 12:24 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, do you agree? | 12:24 |
| jelkner | hang on while daniela joins us | 12:24 |
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| jelkner | great, Diza is here with us | 12:25 |
| Diza | Hi everyone | 12:25 |
| replaceafill | hello Diza | 12:25 |
| jelkner | since we want her in this conversation | 12:25 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, Diza so if you go to the production site (different from the testing one we were checking): https://novalaciro.org | 12:25 |
| jelkner | i think having Diza able to register people is even more important than for them to register themselves | 12:26 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, Diza needs access to this document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1C2Hxd3w9VxTDklOIChtVf4lvgMdsWWBOByDRlWdRpLA/edit | 12:26 |
| jelkner | in fact, since we don't have a way to pay online | 12:26 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, or a copy of it | 12:26 |
| jelkner | (and many people will be reluctant to do that anyway) | 12:26 |
| jelkner | no one is a member until Diza says they are | 12:26 |
| jelkner | which means they have paid their membership fee to her | 12:26 |
| jelkner | we will then print their id card and they will be members | 12:27 |
| jelkner | so we need to support this work flow | 12:27 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, we need to train Diza on how to do that, maybe zOnny can help with that | 12:27 |
| jelkner | the good thing is it will be similar to the aea workflow | 12:27 |
| jelkner | people can fill out a "request for membership" form | 12:27 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, that form is the current membership form | 12:28 |
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| jelkner | which then goes in some kind of queue for Diza (or Keri in AEA) to process | 12:28 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, people need Diza's approval to be able to log in, etc | 12:28 |
| jelkner | +1 | 12:28 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, that's already in place | 12:28 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, what we don't support is: | 12:28 |
| Diza | And how I can do it? | 12:28 |
| jelkner | you are one step ahead of me yet again! | 12:28 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, "admin adds new *members*" | 12:29 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, actually i'll research that, but i don't think that's possible | 12:29 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, admins can add "users" | 12:29 |
| replaceafill | Diza, ok | 12:29 |
| replaceafill | Diza, https://novalaciro.org/memberships/applications/novalaciro-members/ | 12:29 |
| replaceafill | Diza, anyone can fill out that form | 12:30 |
| replaceafill | Diza, with anyone's information | 12:30 |
| replaceafill | Diza, so what i'm proposing is that you use that form to add members you already have in your list | 12:30 |
| replaceafill | Diza, using their data | 12:30 |
| replaceafill | Diza, the required fields (which are not highlighted here CC zOnny) | 12:31 |
| replaceafill | Diza, are first name, last name, email, username and password | 12:31 |
| replaceafill | Diza, for now the amount of the membership says $0.00 | 12:31 |
| replaceafill | Diza, just to give the form ability to submit | 12:31 |
| replaceafill | Diza, and not care about how members will pay | 12:32 |
| replaceafill | Diza, but independently of that fee amount | 12:32 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, we will need a field before we start that holds status | 12:32 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, status? | 12:32 |
| jelkner | membership dues will be anual | 12:32 |
| jelkner | annual | 12:32 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i think they are by default | 12:32 |
| jelkner | so someone will fill out the form | 12:32 |
| jelkner | but we need to know they have paid | 12:33 |
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| jelkner | and that may happen at separate times | 12:33 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, that's already supported | 12:33 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, invoices are generated | 12:33 |
| jelkner | cool | 12:34 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and once a member pays, Diza can marke them as "paid" | 12:34 |
| jelkner | we won't actually need invoices | 12:34 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sure | 12:34 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i meant in the system | 12:34 |
| jelkner | that's too "formal" for this context | 12:34 |
| jelkner | great | 12:34 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, so you can track who paid, etc | 12:34 |
| jelkner | and that supports times too, yes? | 12:34 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, can you share the doc i linkedd above with Diza | 12:34 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, https://docs.google.com/document/d/1C2Hxd3w9VxTDklOIChtVf4lvgMdsWWBOByDRlWdRpLA/edit#heading=h.tofzn3mvv4bx | 12:35 |
| jelkner | so we can say they joined april 18, 2018, so their renewal is due april 18, 2019? | 12:35 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, that has the administrative credentials for this | 12:35 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, we need you and Diza to log in as admin | 12:35 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, so i can show you where that's set up | 12:35 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, you need to visit with your family | 12:37 |
| jelkner | i think we have all we need to keep zOnny busy today | 12:37 |
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| jelkner | have a nice day, my friend | 12:38 |
| jelkner | c u tomorrow at 11:30 am EST | 12:38 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, cool | 12:38 |
| replaceafill | thank you all | 12:39 |
| replaceafill | ping me if you need me, i'll be around | 12:39 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, my plan is to move the themes to production either later today or tomorrow before our meeting | 12:39 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, we didn't look at the last theme | 12:39 |
| jelkner | excellent! | 12:39 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, http://ourrevolutionarlington.novawebdevelopment.org/ | 12:40 |
| jelkner | looks *great*! | 12:40 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, this is the one that worries me the most though | 12:40 |
| jelkner | finally that brown red is fixed ;-) | 12:40 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, because i'm not sure how the SC will take it | 12:40 |
| jelkner | let's talk tomorrow | 12:40 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sure | 12:40 |
| jelkner | we won't move that yet anyway | 12:41 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, +1 | 12:41 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, but you're fine with us moving forward with the nea4or and novalaciro, correct? | 12:41 |
| jelkner | +1 | 12:41 |
| jelkner | a BIG +1 | 12:41 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, options will move around a bit, but can be replaced after | 12:41 |
| jelkner | please move them both | 12:41 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, will do | 12:41 |
| jelkner | that's what i began with today | 12:42 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, tan pronto como sea posible | 12:42 |
| jelkner | those are the first two | 12:42 |
| jelkner | later replaceafill | 12:44 |
| jelkner | c u tomorrow | 12:44 |
| replaceafill | later jelkner, see you tomorrow o/ | 12:44 |
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| Diza | I'm back | 12:46 |
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| replaceafill | zOnny, are you around? | 12:56 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, any news on the email enquiries with mayfirst or riseup? | 13:02 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i can set up novalaciro to output emails to server files for now | 13:03 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, zOnny also i just found out you can import members in csv files, that can be helpful | 13:04 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, for reference: https://demo.tendenci.com/memberships/import_default/ | 13:04 |
| replaceafill | ACTION signs off for a couple of hours | 13:06 |
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