IRC log of #novawebdev for Monday, 2018-04-23

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jelknerGood morning, replaceafill09:55
replaceafillgood morning jelkner09:55
jelknercan we hangout?09:57
jelknerwe can take notes here09:57
replaceafilljelkner, sure09:57
replaceafilljelkner, i'm ready09:57
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replaceafillhey mjsir91110:36
replaceafillmjsir911, jelkner tells me you're doing mailing list research10:37
mjsir911less mailing list and more just mail hosting10:41
mjsir911we need a simple setup for someone to recieve mail at their domain & send mail from their domain10:41
mjsir911I have a postfix server doing that for mine, but its a *pain*10:42
replaceafillmjsir911, could you add mailing list to the research?10:42
replaceafillmjsir911, we need that too10:42
replaceafillmjsir911, i've checked mayfirst and riseup, but they seemed very limited10:43
replaceafillmjsir911, but maybe ok-ish for our purposes10:43
replaceafillmjsir911, like small quotas which makes you (the user) to download things10:43
mjsir911yea the use case so far hasnt warranted much disk space as we are forwarding to gmail10:44
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zOnnyhey replaceafill12:24
replaceafillhey zOnny12:24
zOnnyI was checking ora themming development12:24
zOnnyIts been a lot of additions in the home template which makes a big difference of the other tendenci 12:26
replaceafillzOnny, i noticed you changed the banner in the ora_dev branch12:28
zOnnyI think is fine until some point because as you know the other templates have almost the same custom.css12:28
zOnnythe other tendenci projects I mean12:29
replaceafillzOnny, well, the homepage is where we can have diversity, right?12:29
zOnnycorrect 12:30
replaceafillzOnny, are you worried about something?12:30
zOnnyI am just thinking about it can be done in the same way as the other projects with only little additions 12:33
zOnnyI was testing in this branch
zOnnybecause the homepage is not responsve at all with the static containers around12:35
replaceafillzOnny, you mean, not using fluid containers?12:35
zOnnyI mean not overriding the templates at all12:35
replaceafillzOnny, what templates?12:36
replaceafillzOnny, we maybe should discuss this on voice when you have a chance12:36
replaceafillzOnny, if you see opportunity to improve the designs and make them more uniform in the process, i'm +112:37
replaceafillzOnny, i think we got to the point of "ok, we're stable now"12:37
zOnnywell thinking in simplicity as you remarked replaceafill 12:37
replaceafillzOnny, we have layouts for all of them12:37
replaceafillzOnny, it's like we know their identity now12:37
replaceafillzOnny, now we could "standarize" the result12:38
replaceafillzOnny, for example, we have cut some corners12:38
replaceafillzOnny, like just hiding things in the base homepage template12:38
replaceafillzOnny, i think it's time for those to just go12:39
replaceafillzOnny, there are sections just using display: none12:39
replaceafillzOnny, let's get rid of those in the html12:39
zOnnywe can target our custom.css as one in most of our project replaceafill 12:39
replaceafillzOnny, same with rotators12:39
replaceafillzOnny, most of the designs are not using rotators12:40
replaceafillzOnny, and they not having any story produce this JS error12:40
replaceafillzOnny, so, we should just get rid of that part in the template12:40
replaceafillzOnny, again, we can have diverse/different homepage.html templates now12:40
zOnnyIN that case everything seems fine12:41
replaceafillzOnny, by now, again, i mean "now that we know how the sites should look like"12:41
replaceafillzOnny, and if you could make them responsive12:41
replaceafillzOnny, and use scalable fonts, etc12:41
replaceafillzOnny, fluid containers12:41
replaceafillzOnny, while maintaining their "identity"12:41
replaceafillzOnny, that's what we should do12:42
replaceafillzOnny, and feel free to decide what's best12:42
replaceafillzOnny, at this point i just have two reqeusts12:42
replaceafillzOnny, make the top of the navigation static12:43
replaceafillzOnny, the issue we already have in gitlab12:43
replaceafillzOnny, you just started with ORA12:43
replaceafillzOnny, novalaciro should do the same, etc12:43
replaceafillzOnny, and we should do the same for the footer12:43
replaceafillzOnny, taking the "made with tendenci" and the nova logo out of the footer box12:43
replaceafillzOnny, made this change a couple of weeks ago12:44
replaceafill(taking the tendenci link out of the box)12:44
zOnnyprocessing ... 12:45
replaceafillzOnny, can we meet later today?12:45
replaceafillzOnny, 4 pm?12:45
replaceafillzOnny, i'd like to update you on the helios status12:45
zOnnyInteresting information12:46
replaceafillzOnny, so you can see why making these changes now is important12:46
replaceafillzOnny, so the helios work can pick them up12:46
replaceafillzOnny, helios needs its own templates12:46
zOnny4 PM sounds good replaceafill 12:46
replaceafillzOnny, cool12:46
replaceafillzOnny, talk to you then12:46
zOnnysee u replaceafill 12:46
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jelknerping mr_german 13:04
mr_germanhello jelkner 13:04
jelknerwhat do you think about taking a trip to nicaragua this summer when i come to visit?13:05
jelknerreplaceafill will talk to you about it13:05
mr_germanjelkner, oh, that sounds really good13:05
jelkneranyway, talk to you uncle13:05
mr_germanjelkner, finally, I'll have the pleasure meet you in person13:06
jelkner+1 !13:06
jelknerthat's why i'm coming13:07
jelknerto meet you and natalia13:07
jelkner(and to hang out with replaceafill too, of course ;-)13:07
mr_germangreat, well i have to talk with replaceafill about that13:07
jelknerok, i need to grab lunch, mr_german13:08
jelknerlet's talk more soon13:08
mr_germanjelkner, sure, see you late13:08
mr_germanreplaceafill, hello, are you around?13:08
replaceafillmr_german, i'm in my weekly meeting with lelkneralfaro13:09
mr_germanreplaceafill, oh, ok13:09
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mr_germanreplaceafill, call me again14:54
mr_germanI wasn't at home14:54
replaceafillACTION goes to get lunch, bb in ~1h14:59
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replaceafillACTION is back16:01
mr_germanreplaceafill, ready ;)16:01
replaceafillmr_german, i wonder where zOnnny is16:02
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replaceafillthere he is :)16:03
zOnnyhey replaceafill 16:03
replaceafillhey zOnny16:03
replaceafillzOnny, can you hang out now?16:03
zOnnygive a 1 min I just arrived16:04
replaceafillzOnny, ah ok, sure16:04
zOnnyready replaceafill 16:04
replaceafillmr_german, mute your mic16:06
replaceafillmr_german, we can't hear you16:06
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jelknerzOnny, mr_german, do either of you know where replaceafill is?17:14
jelknernever mind, gentleman, i'll email him.17:16
jelknertalk to you soon...17:16
jelknerACTION logs off for the day17:16
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jelknergood evening, replaceafill!18:35
replaceafillgood evening jelkner18:36
jelkner1stly, my deepest gratitude for making lealkneralfaro feel better!18:36
jelkneryou rock18:36
jelknerwe had a good conversation this afternoon18:36
replaceafilljelkner, glad to hear18:36
replaceafilljelkner, glad to hear that too :)18:36
jelknermy question is about the mailing list for nea4or18:37
jelknerif i mail to, will the new sign-ups receive it?18:37
jelkneri want to welcome them, and talk about next steps18:37
replaceafilljelkner, some of them18:37
replaceafilljelkner, it's a checkbox in the membership form18:37
replaceafilljelkner, and some of them unchecked it18:37
jelknerfair enough18:38
jelkneri'll email to the list, and think about contacting the others personally18:38
jelknerlooking forward to the conversation with mjsir911 tomorrow18:39
replaceafilljelkner, cool, i see 8 new members in the mailing list18:39
jelknerthat's 2 more than i realized18:39
replaceafilljelkner, ah18:39
jelknerjust think how much better we could have done with cookies!18:39
jelkneri'm going to start planning for minniapolis now18:40
replaceafilljelkner, mind if i enable the captcha back?18:40
replaceafilljelkner, we discussed the username,password necessity with zOnny today18:41
jelknergood idea18:41
replaceafilljelkner, about being a tendenci artifact only18:41
replaceafilljelkner, we should let them create the username,password in a separate step18:41
replaceafilljelkner, the activation link you mentioned18:42
replaceafilljelkner, i added it to my notes18:42
jelknerhere is what i think we should do:18:42
replaceafilljelkner, and will investigate it as soon as possible18:42
jelknerhave them sign up with name, email address, and state and local nea affiliates18:42
jelknerthen they receive an email that let's them confirm their account is real, and pick a password18:43
replaceafilljelkner, yeah, but you still require the username18:43
replaceafilljelkner, which we can match with the email18:43
replaceafilljelkner, as we did last weekend18:43
jelknerlet's make the username the email address18:43
replaceafilljelkner, right18:44
replaceafilljelkner, when is the mineapolis event?18:44
jelknerhold on18:45
replaceafilljelkner, thanks18:46
jelknerbtw. i told you i'll miss the meeting this sunday, yes?18:46
replaceafilljelkner, yes18:46
jelkneri've been invited by jimmy tarlau (
replaceafilljelkner, ah18:47
jelknerto a fund raiser at which larry cohen ( will be present18:47
jelknerlarry is on the national board of our revolution18:48
jelkneri'm going to tell him about what we are doing and make my pitch to ask nina turner to do a 30 second video (hand held smart phone will do fine)18:49
jelknerpitching or to nea members at the convention18:49
replaceafilljelkner, to publish in the website, right?18:49
jelkneri'll let you know how it goes18:50
replaceafilljelkner, cool, good luck18:50
jelknerokie dokie, back to work for me18:50
replaceafilljelkner, ok18:50
jelkneri'm going to send a few emails18:50
jelkneri'll blind copy you so you see what i'm up to18:50
replaceafilljelkner, cool18:50
jelknerlater gater18:50
replaceafilllater o/18:50
jelknerACTION signs off for the evening18:50
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zOnnyhey mr_german 19:59
mr_germanhey zOnny 19:59
zOnnycan I ask you one question ?19:59
mr_germango ahead20:00
zOnnyWhat do you think about using the nova logo that our nova web dev has already on the top ? 20:01
mr_germanthe yellow one?20:02
mr_germanbecause, we have a blue one20:02
zOnnyDid you agree in not using the yellow ?20:03
zOnnyremeber that most of our backgrounds will rely on dark footer20:03
zOnnyWhy not start using the yellow one ?20:04
zOnnybecause having the #707070 as a background does not convince me20:05
mr_germanzOnny, well20:05
zOnnyusig kevin's feedback20:05
mr_germanI think that depends on the palette colours20:06
mr_germanof the site20:06
mr_germanbut, i think it could work20:07
mr_germanzOnny, what do you think20:07
zOnnyI will start using the yellow20:07
mr_germanzOnny, go ahead and if you want, you can show me later20:08
mr_germanI'll be around here20:08
zOnnylol, thinking about it, this yellow is too bright mr_german 20:14
mr_germansend a ss20:15
mr_germanif you want20:15
mr_germanzOnny, mmm for me it looks good20:19
zOnnyI think this should be an issue to talk at sunday mr_german 20:22
zOnnybut I will leave yellow because we want it readable mr_german 20:24
mr_germanzOnny, sure20:29
mr_germanzOnny, it looks good for now20:31
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