IRC log of #novawebdev for Saturday, 2018-05-19

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jelknerGood morning hrodriguez!11:01
hrodriguezGood Morning jelkner11:01
jelknerit's nice that you are here, otherwise it would just be me and Big_Brother ;-)11:02
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jelknergood morning replaceafill 11:42
replaceafillgood morning jelkner11:43
jelknerwe had a great meeting with mike this morning11:43
jelknerzOnny is fantastic11:43
replaceafilljelkner, ah, i saw your email11:43
replaceafilljelkner, i know :)11:43
jelknerhe really knows how to teach tendenci11:43
replaceafilljelkner, glad we have someone with that ability11:44
jelknerbtw, replaceafill, i just emailed my friend in san miguel to let him know i'm coming to visit.11:50
replaceafilljelkner, ah great11:50
jelknerwe need to start thinking about how we can use our organizing tools in la tierra de los mil volcanes11:51
jelknerthat topic will be top in my mind during my visit11:52
jelknerwe will need progressive data scientists, security engineers, etc to build the platform for the movement11:53
jelkneri don't know if you are in touch with folks at the national university, or if nrcerna is11:53
jelknerbut we should be reaching out, replaceafill 11:54
replaceafilljelkner, not anymore11:54
replaceafilljelkner, i've learned not to push for initiatives here my friend11:54
replaceafilljelkner, i've learned it the hard way with schooltool11:54
replaceafilljelkner, and to be honest i'm not that interested in pushing11:54
replaceafilljelkner, if someone really needs/requests my help, i'll gladly help11:55
jelknerthat's ok, replaceafill 11:55
jelknerbut i'm hoping we can find someone who is interested11:55
replaceafilljelkner, i bet there is someone interested11:55
jelkneri know its difficult11:55
jelknerit has been my problem for 25 years11:56
jelknerthose with the vision lack the skills11:56
jelknerthose with the skills, lack the interest11:56
jelknerthat seems to be changing at long last here11:56
replaceafilljelkner, true11:56
jelkneri remember when i first learned about software freedom in 199311:56
jelknerand thought that it was going to be really important in building a just and democratic society11:57
jelknerbut most activists weren't interested in software freedom11:57
jelknerthat is now beginning to change11:57
jelknerkeep in mind, replaceafill, we have the potential to help el salvador with this11:58
jelknerand i believe we are morally obligated to try11:58
replaceafilljelkner, i've know that since the beginning11:58
replaceafillknown*11:58
replaceafilljelkner, my interest in helping the *cause* is a byproduct of your interest11:59
replaceafilljelkner, if i had a salvadorean jelkner around, maybe...11:59
replaceafilljelkner, i know i can't be a salvadorean jelkner12:00
jelknerjust be a salvadoran replaceafill 12:00
jelknerwe need more of those12:00
replaceafilljelkner, :)12:01
jelknerwe'll find activists who understand what we are doing if we keep looking12:01
jelknerremember, replaceafill, i'm stubborn and stupid12:01
jelknerso i'll just keep at it ;-)12:01
replaceafilljelkner, i know12:01
jelknerok, back to work12:02
replaceafilljelkner, i keep thinking in all the civil organizations i found out about when i was working at CDC12:02
replaceafilljelkner, some of those could probably use software like the one we try to build12:02
replaceafilljelkner, anyway, yes, back to work12:03
jelkneryes, replaceafill, those are good things to think about12:03
jelkner+112:03
jelknerwe'll talk a lot more about this in agosto12:03
replaceafilljelkner, sure12:03
replaceafilljelkner, question about ORA12:03
jelknershoot12:03
replaceafilljelkner, did you discuss the "ask the candidate" story?12:03
jelkneronly to the degree that i talked with mike about our forum work12:04
jelknerthe need to make it threaded12:04
jelknerand that we were working on that12:04
replaceafilljelkner, do you think that story alone will do it?12:04
replaceafilljelkner, the threaded replies12:04
jelkneryes12:04
replaceafilljelkner, cool12:04
jelkneroh, one last thing, replaceafill 12:05
jelkneri'm in el salvador from august 11 to 2212:05
jelknerif any free software meetings happen during that time12:05
jelkneri'd like to attend12:05
jelknerso please keep an eye out for me12:05
replaceafilljelkner, we don't have any organized movement here unfortunately12:06
replaceafilljelkner, but i will12:06
jelknerwow, you did years ago12:06
jelknerthat's where i met eric12:06
replaceafilljelkner, yeah12:06
replaceafilljelkner, it died12:06
jelknerdrats12:06
jelkneri feel your frustration12:06
replaceafilljelkner, i keep tabs on the former activists12:06
jelknerthat means we have a bigger task ahead12:06
jelknerto restart the free software movement in el salvador12:07
replaceafilljelkner, but there are never events of that kind anymore12:07
jelknerthere will be, my friend, there will be12:07
jelknerok, back to school work12:07
jelknertalk to you tomorrow12:08
replaceafilljelkner, cool, see you12:08
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